Thankyou, Tony, I appreciate your reply! janetchopkins@hotmail.com >From: "Tony Munford" <tony@munford1723.freeserve.co.uk> >Reply-To: ENG-ROTHERHAM-L@rootsweb.com >To: ENG-ROTHERHAM-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: RE: [ROTH] Is Masbrough in Kimberworth? >Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2003 17:10:49 -0000 > >Masbrough was certainly part of Kimberworth for census purposes as it >was part of Kimberworth township. Masbrough is an area that has never >had any legally established boundaries. Rougjhly it extends from the >west bank of the River Don and extends eastward to approx. Wilton Lane. >The Kimberworth census enumeration books start at the river and work >their way westawards, so Masbrough should appear in the early part of >the films > >Tony Munford >Rotherham >England > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Janet Hopkins [mailto:janetchopkins@hotmail.com] >Sent: 21 March 2003 21:01 >To: ENG-ROTHERHAM-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [ROTH] Is Masbrough in Kimberworth? > > >Dear Listers, >I am about to order the census film for Kimberworth for 1861 and 1871, >and >am hoping Masbrough is on it. Can any of you kind local folks let me >know >if I am correct, please? I looked on familysearch.org for details of >the >census of Kimberworth, but it did not list smaller places included on >the >film. I am seeking Henry or John Robinson, glassmaker, with wife >Harriet, >in Masbrough. Would be grateful for your advice, >janetchopkins@hotmail.com > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ >STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* >http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > > >==== ENG-ROTHERHAM Mailing List ==== >If you have any suggestions for improving the list, please email the >listowner - Tracy. Email: tlh@party7.fsnet.co.uk > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy >records, go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > >==== ENG-ROTHERHAM Mailing List ==== >Please do not use the list as a source of advertising for personal or >business use - this includes adding company names to your signature. > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, >go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > _________________________________________________________________

Hi all For anyone who orders their certificates online for family research , here's a newsletter I received from a company I've used in the past: ----- Original Message ----- From: Researchinuk@aol.com Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2003 7:15 PM Subject: Research UK RESEARCH UK (website address: http://www.research-uk.co.uk/) March 2003 NEWSLETTER INCREASE IN GOVERNMENT CHARGES FOR CERTIFICATES We have been advised by the UK Government that the price of birth, marriage and death certificates will be rising in price as from the end of March by .50 pence each. This will bring prices up to 9.oo GB pounds for a full reference, 10.oo GB Pounds for a two year search. We have not added any extra to their increase on these even though our costs have risen. All prices can be seen on our website -please note customers with us prior to 1st March 2003 will not be charged these new prices until after 25th March so any order received up to the 25th will be charged at the old prices. BIRTH, MARRIAGE and DEATH INDEXES As from 1st April you will find these indexes for the years 1837 to 2001 are searchable on-line. This means that you will no longer have to travel to your local centre to look these up and make searches. When you found your reference you can return to order it at our order page. There will be a small charge for the searches but the company putting them on line is a reputable long standing business. If you go to www.1837online.com today you can download the required viewer for free and take up their offer of looking at a sample page. Once you have downloaded the viewer you can zoom in and out to see those difficult to read references. We will be adding a link to this website on our main site. FOUND AN ENTRY Having found an entry do NOT CHANGE what you have found -do not add or take away names to what you think they should be! What you find in the GRO Indexes or on the FreeBMD is what will be on the the certificate and a correct name is what makes your order go through smoothly. IF YOU ADD or TAKE AWAY names that are shown then these may be overlooked by our researchers as we ONLY check that the reference provided is correct and any additions or ommisions in names may end up with the application being declined at Southport certificate preparation centre. William Hall www.research-uk.com www.census-uk.com www.gro-certificates.co.uk

Hello list A while ago I was sent some information on a Adam HEATON shoe maker born Chesterfield, sadly I have had a misfortune with my computer equipment and lost the relevant information, I recall also a John HEATON , Shoe maker in Sheffield. My Adam was living in Rotherham by 1850 . TIA Kind Regards John Heaton Gray Rotherham, South Yorkshire, England My Family Interests Buck, Chamberlain, Gray, Heaton, Nichols, Pye http://uk.geocities.com/buckfamilyuk/Family.html

Hi Dianne I had a look at the Diss Parish Records transcription and found no William West at that time. If William came from Wortham he must have been born just over the border of Norfolk and Suffolk south of the River Waveney, unless of course he was nonconformist! Brian _________________________________________________________________ Overloaded with spam? With MSN 8, you can filter it out http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail&pgmarket=en-gb&XAPID=32&DI=1059

Dear Listers, I am about to order the census film for Kimberworth for 1861 and 1871, and am hoping Masbrough is on it. Can any of you kind local folks let me know if I am correct, please? I looked on familysearch.org for details of the census of Kimberworth, but it did not list smaller places included on the film. I am seeking Henry or John Robinson, glassmaker, with wife Harriet, in Masbrough. Would be grateful for your advice, janetchopkins@hotmail.com _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

Thanks Brian -------Original Message------- From: ENG-ROTHERHAM-L@rootsweb.com Date: March 21, 2003 10:52:51 AM To: ENG-ROTHERHAM-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [ROTH] West not Diss Hi Dianne I had a look at the Diss Parish Records transcription and found no William West at that time. If William came from Wortham he must have been born just over the border of Norfolk and Suffolk south of the River Waveney, unless of course he was nonconformist! Brian _________________________________________________________________ Overloaded with spam? With MSN 8, you can filter it out http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail&pgmarket=en-gb&XAPID=32&DI=1059 ==== ENG-ROTHERHAM Mailing List ==== Do not post unsavoury material or anything which may upset others to the list. Anyone doing so will be removed - as will those who reply to such material - the listowner will deal with such issues off list. ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 .

Hi Dianne Found these in the 1871 Index . 45241 WEST THOMAS 24 DBY SOMERSHALL RG10/4710 34 WATH 2 WATH 45242 WEST MARY 27 STS HIXSON RG10/4710 34 WATH 2 WATH 45243 WEST PHOEBE 5 STS UTTOXETER RG10/4710 34 WATH 2 WATH 45244 WEST SARAH 1 STS UTTOXETER RG10/4710 34 WATH 2 WATH 46668 WEST WILLIAM 46 DOR HANDLEY RG10/4710 76 WATH 5 WENTWORTH 46669 WEST MARTHA 56 YKS WENTWORTH RG10/4710 76 WATH 5 WENTWORTH 53342 WEST WILLIAM 64 SFK WATHAM RG10/4712 50 WATH 14 SWINTON 53343 WEST ANN 61 SFK WATHAM RG10/4712 50 WATH 14 SWINTON 53344 WEST EDA 13 MDX LONDON RG10/4712 50 WATH 14 SWINTON 53345 WEST DICK 2 YKS ADWICK RG10/4712 50 WATH 14 SWINTON 53346 WEST HENRY 30 SFK WATHAM RG10/4712 50 WATH 14 SWINTON Kind Regards John Heaton Gray Rotherham, South Yorkshire, England My Family Interests Buck, Chamberlain, Gray, Heaton, Nichols, Pye http://uk.geocities.com/buckfamilyuk/Family.html

What a wonderful group of people you are, thank you to everyone who responded to my requests with regards to my West family. I'm impressed. Thanks especially to John Heaton Gray. Dianne in Canada. Yorkshire born and bred.

>From: Diehard <diehard1967@shaw.ca> >Reply-To: ENG-ROTHERHAM-L@rootsweb.com >To: ENG-ROTHERHAM-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [ROTH] West Family >Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 13:44:41 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time) > >Hi my name is Dianne I'm new to this list. >I have just a little info for my West family. >This is them in 1881. >Dwelling: 61 Wath Rd >Census Place: Swinton In Rotherham, York, England >Source: FHL Film 1342133 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 4683 Folio 63 Page 20 >Marr Age Sex Birthplace >Ann WEST W 69 F Wortham, Suffolk, England >Rel: Head >William WEST M 51 M Wortham, Suffolk, England >Rel: Son >Occ: Pit Labourer Coal >Margaret WEST M 35 F Adwick Upon Dearne,S. York,England >Rel: Wife >Honour WEST 7 F Swinton Rotherham,S. York, England >Rel: Daur >Occ: Scholar >Robert WEST 5 M Swinton Rotherham,S. York, England >Rel: Son >Occ: Scholar >Robert West is my GGGramps. >His father is the above William. I believe that the above Wortham is really >Wath upon Dearne. >Roberts Gramps was also William. >Here Robert is in 1891. > 77 Wath Road, Swinton >RG12/3856 Enumeration District 16 Folio 52 Page 3 >WEST Wm hd m 59 Coal Miner NFK Diss >WEST Margaret wi m 47 YRK Adwick >WEST Robt. so 15 Coal Miner YRK Swinton >WEST Jno Wm so 6 Scholar YRK Swinton > Sorry to be so long winded, but if anyone has census access for the above >area for 51, 61, or 71, >I would truly appreciate any help. Thanks in advance, > Dianne in Canada, yorkshire born and bred. > > >==== ENG-ROTHERHAM Mailing List ==== >Please do not use the list as a source of advertising for personal or >business use - this includes adding company names to your signature. > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, >go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > Hi Dianne, I think that William WAS probably born in Wortham Suffolk as the entry for 1891 says Diss which is just a couple of miles from Wortham. This would make it highly credible - check that one first! Brian _________________________________________________________________ Use MSN Messenger to send music and pics to your friends http://messenger.msn.co.uk

Thank you very much for the information Regards Margaret ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony Munford" <tony@munford1723.freeserve.co.uk> To: <ENG-ROTHERHAM-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 7:10 PM Subject: RE: [ROTH] Kimberworth > Before 1843 Kimberworth was part of the parish of Rotherham so all > baptisms, marriages and burials will be in the Rotherham Parish > Registers. > > The original registers are deposited at Sheffield Archives > (sheffield.archives@dial.pipex.com) but Rotherham Archives & Local > Studies Service has microfilm copies (archives@rotherham.gov.uk) > > > Tony Munford > Rotherham > England > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Margaret Elliott [mailto:meelliott@btinternet.com] > Sent: 19 March 2003 19:17 > To: ENG-ROTHERHAM-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [ROTH] Kimberworth > > > I'm trying to find information about births in Kimberworth. I tried my > local Family History Centre, but their registers begin in 1843. Was > there a parish church in Kimberworth before then, or should I look > elsewhere for details? > > Thank you > Margaret > > > ==== ENG-ROTHERHAM Mailing List ==== > Do not post any VIRUS information to the list - many virus messages are > hoax - although some are not. If in doubt, never open messages with > attachments unless you have specifically requested information. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > ==== ENG-ROTHERHAM Mailing List ==== > If you have any suggestions for improving the list, please email the listowner - Tracy. Email: tlh@party7.fsnet.co.uk > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Hi all, I found more info re my WESTS "Williams Father was called William (aged 64 and born in Watham SFK according to 1871 Census), his mother was, as you mention, Ann (aged 61 and also born in Watham), also William Snr moved up to Yorkshire with his brother James (aged 60, born in Watham but living at Tinsley, Rotherham)." If anyone has the 1871 could you please look for a William and His brother James West, in Tinsley. Thankyou in advance. Dianne.

Before 1843 Kimberworth was part of the parish of Rotherham so all baptisms, marriages and burials will be in the Rotherham Parish Registers. The original registers are deposited at Sheffield Archives (sheffield.archives@dial.pipex.com) but Rotherham Archives & Local Studies Service has microfilm copies (archives@rotherham.gov.uk) Tony Munford Rotherham England -----Original Message----- From: Margaret Elliott [mailto:meelliott@btinternet.com] Sent: 19 March 2003 19:17 To: ENG-ROTHERHAM-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [ROTH] Kimberworth I'm trying to find information about births in Kimberworth. I tried my local Family History Centre, but their registers begin in 1843. Was there a parish church in Kimberworth before then, or should I look elsewhere for details? Thank you Margaret ==== ENG-ROTHERHAM Mailing List ==== Do not post any VIRUS information to the list - many virus messages are hoax - although some are not. If in doubt, never open messages with attachments unless you have specifically requested information. ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Thankyou Brian for your help. Now that I've subscribed I may as well see if anyone can look and see if the West family was living on Wath Road in 1871. Or if anyone knows anything about Honour WEST, born 1874 in Swinton, or William John WEST, born 1885 also in Swinton. I would appreciate any help. Ooh whilst I have your attention, would Connisborough and Denaby Main come under this list? Thanks again, Dianne in Canada.

Hello List Would any-one be kind enough to look at the 1851 Rotherham Census Index for a ADAM or CATHERINE HEATON and family .Adam would be aged in about 30s yrs old. Kind Regards John Heaton Gray Rotherham, South Yorkshire, England My Family Interests Buck, Chamberlain, Gray, Heaton, Nichols, Pye http://uk.geocities.com/buckfamilyuk/Family.html

my g-g-g-grandfather William RICE was born at Kimberworth in 1780: I found his baptism recorded in the Rotherham records. Hope that helps. Peter THOMAS Darwin, AUSTRALIA

Thankyou, Dianne. -------Original Message------- From: ENG-ROTHERHAM-L@rootsweb.com Date: March 20, 2003 02:58:35 PM To: ENG-ROTHERHAM-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ROTH] West Family >From: Diehard <diehard1967@shaw.ca> >Reply-To: ENG-ROTHERHAM-L@rootsweb.com >To: ENG-ROTHERHAM-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [ROTH] West Family >Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 13:44:41 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time) > >Hi my name is Dianne I'm new to this list. >I have just a little info for my West family. >This is them in 1881. >Dwelling: 61 Wath Rd >Census Place: Swinton In Rotherham, York, England >Source: FHL Film 1342133 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 4683 Folio 63 Page 20 >Marr Age Sex Birthplace >Ann WEST W 69 F Wortham, Suffolk, England >Rel: Head >William WEST M 51 M Wortham, Suffolk, England >Rel: Son >Occ: Pit Labourer Coal >Margaret WEST M 35 F Adwick Upon Dearne,S. York,England >Rel: Wife >Honour WEST 7 F Swinton Rotherham,S. York, England >Rel: Daur >Occ: Scholar >Robert WEST 5 M Swinton Rotherham,S. York, England >Rel: Son >Occ: Scholar >Robert West is my GGGramps. >His father is the above William. I believe that the above Wortham is really >Wath upon Dearne. >Roberts Gramps was also William. >Here Robert is in 1891. > 77 Wath Road, Swinton >RG12/3856 Enumeration District 16 Folio 52 Page 3 >WEST Wm hd m 59 Coal Miner NFK Diss >WEST Margaret wi m 47 YRK Adwick >WEST Robt. so 15 Coal Miner YRK Swinton >WEST Jno Wm so 6 Scholar YRK Swinton > Sorry to be so long winded, but if anyone has census access for the above >area for 51, 61, or 71, >I would truly appreciate any help. Thanks in advance, > Dianne in Canada, yorkshire born and bred. > > >==== ENG-ROTHERHAM Mailing List ==== >Please do not use the list as a source of advertising for personal or >business use - this includes adding company names to your signature. > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, >go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > Hi Dianne, I think that William WAS probably born in Wortham Suffolk as the entry for 1891 says Diss which is just a couple of miles from Wortham. This would make it highly credible - check that one first! Brian _________________________________________________________________ Use MSN Messenger to send music and pics to your friends http://messenger.msn.co.uk ==== ENG-ROTHERHAM Mailing List ==== If you have any suggestions for improving the list, please email the listowner - Tracy. Email: tlh@party7.fsnet.co.uk ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 .

Dear John, I have got a lady by the name of Harriet Heaton, who married a Henry or John Robinson. I know that they lived in Masbrough in 1864, but don't know where they were before that. Harriet's and Henry's son James Carratt Robinson was born in 1864. Wonder if we are connected? janet >From: "jongray" <jongray@blueyonder.co.uk> >Reply-To: ENG-ROTHERHAM-L@rootsweb.com >To: ENG-ROTHERHAM-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [ROTH] HEATON>>1851 Census Rotherham >Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 18:34:18 -0000 > > >Hello List > > Would any-one be kind enough to look at the 1851 Rotherham Census >Index for a ADAM or CATHERINE HEATON and family .Adam would be aged in >about > 30s yrs old. > > Kind Regards John Heaton Gray >Rotherham, South Yorkshire, England >My Family Interests >Buck, Chamberlain, Gray, Heaton, Nichols, Pye > > http://uk.geocities.com/buckfamilyuk/Family.html > > > > >==== ENG-ROTHERHAM Mailing List ==== >If you have any suggestions for improving the list, please email the >listowner - Tracy. Email: tlh@party7.fsnet.co.uk > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, >go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

Hi my name is Dianne I'm new to this list. I have just a little info for my West family. This is them in 1881. Dwelling: 61 Wath Rd Census Place: Swinton In Rotherham, York, England Source: FHL Film 1342133 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 4683 Folio 63 Page 20 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Ann WEST W 69 F Wortham, Suffolk, England Rel: Head William WEST M 51 M Wortham, Suffolk, England Rel: Son Occ: Pit Labourer Coal Margaret WEST M 35 F Adwick Upon Dearne,S. York,England Rel: Wife Honour WEST 7 F Swinton Rotherham,S. York, England Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar Robert WEST 5 M Swinton Rotherham,S. York, England Rel: Son Occ: Scholar Robert West is my GGGramps. His father is the above William. I believe that the above Wortham is really Wath upon Dearne. Roberts Gramps was also William. Here Robert is in 1891. 77 Wath Road, Swinton RG12/3856 Enumeration District 16 Folio 52 Page 3 WEST Wm hd m 59 Coal Miner NFK Diss WEST Margaret wi m 47 YRK Adwick WEST Robt. so 15 Coal Miner YRK Swinton WEST Jno Wm so 6 Scholar YRK Swinton Sorry to be so long winded, but if anyone has census access for the above area for 51, 61, or 71, I would truly appreciate any help. Thanks in advance, Dianne in Canada, yorkshire born and bred.

Hi Margaret there is a Weslyan Baptism disc 1811-1984 which i believe as Kimberworth on it i will check what there is included. There is also a Kimberworth weslyan Baptism disc 1848-1904 Pete Gill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Margaret Elliott" <meelliott@btinternet.com> To: <ENG-ROTHERHAM-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 7:17 PM Subject: [ROTH] Kimberworth > I'm trying to find information about births in Kimberworth. I tried my local Family History Centre, but their registers begin in 1843. Was there a parish church in Kimberworth before then, or should I look elsewhere for details? > > Thank you > Margaret > > > ==== ENG-ROTHERHAM Mailing List ==== > Do not post any VIRUS information to the list - many virus messages are hoax - although some are not. If in doubt, never open messages with attachments unless you have specifically requested information. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

I'm trying to find information about births in Kimberworth. I tried my local Family History Centre, but their registers begin in 1843. Was there a parish church in Kimberworth before then, or should I look elsewhere for details? Thank you Margaret