Hi Lynne, Sorry but nothing on the list for your names regards Sandra ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lynne West" <lynne_west@hotmail.com> To: <ENG-ROTHERHAM-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 10:21 AM Subject: Re: [ROTH] 1871 SURNAME INDEX > Hi Sandra and Alan > could you please do me a huge favour and see what you can find on > MAYBURY/MAYBERRY > Cheers > Lynne > > > >From: "Alan Davies" <sandalan@ntlworld.com> > >Reply-To: ENG-ROTHERHAM-L@rootsweb.com > >To: ENG-ROTHERHAM-L@rootsweb.com > >Subject: [ROTH] 1871 SURNAME INDEX > >Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 07:57:21 +0100 > > > >WE HAVE THIS ROTHERHAM SURNAMES INDEX 1871 A-Z . IF ANYONE NEEDS ANY LOOK > >UPS > >Regards Sandra & Alan > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Hotmail is now available on Australian mobile phones. Go to > http://ninemsn.com.au/mobilecentral/signup.asp > > > ==== ENG-ROTHERHAM Mailing List ==== > Please do not use the list as a source of advertising for personal or business use - this includes adding company names to your signature. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Hi Sandra and Alan, I would really appreciate any Wests in Swinton, primarily Wath Road. Thanks in advance. Dianne in Canada, Yorkshire born and bred.

Hi Donna,Sorry but no trace of either names on the index ..Sandra ----- Original Message ----- From: "'Tis Herself" <hempton@newnorth.net> To: <ENG-ROTHERHAM-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 12:07 PM Subject: Re: [ROTH] 1871 SURNAME INDEX > Could you please look up Didsbury and Boomer for me? Many thanks. > > Donna > > > > ==== ENG-ROTHERHAM Mailing List ==== > Please do not use the list as a source of advertising for personal or business use - this includes adding company names to your signature. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Sorry for the late reply to the letters on FRETWELL. My server has been down off and on since Sunday and the mail has been spasmodic. I have not yet! received my own letter so I was quite surprised to see replies to a mail I thought had disappeared into cyber space! Many thanks to Tracy for the advice on FreeBDM and to Stanley for the site for FRETWELL researchers. Also to Richard Saunders for a list of Fretwell head of household men in 1851. I hope I haven't missed anyone. I am not sure if I have lost more than my own mailing to the list. Jean in Saddleworth

I would very much appreciate a lookup for any GREAVES or BRAMMER (or variant spellings.) Thank you very much! Sue ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Davies" <sandalan@ntlworld.com> To: <ENG-ROTHERHAM-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 10:57 PM Subject: [ROTH] 1871 SURNAME INDEX > WE HAVE THIS ROTHERHAM SURNAMES INDEX 1871 A-Z . IF ANYONE NEEDS ANY LOOK UPS > Regards Sandra & Alan > > > ==== ENG-ROTHERHAM Mailing List ==== > Do not post unsavoury material or anything which may upset others to the list. Anyone doing so will be removed - as will those who reply to such material - the listowner will deal with such issues off list. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Hi Duncan.Have looked on the index and all i can find is a JAMES PAYLING age 20 born in LINCOLN living in BRAMPTON BRIERLOW,nothing under any other spellings,there is a COBB family listed in RAWMARSH,did you have a PAYLING in the DEARNE VALLEY area in the 1940`s that stood for parliament?..........regards Sandra ----- Original Message ----- From: "duncan payling" <duncanp@bigpond.net.au> To: <ENG-ROTHERHAM-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 9:00 AM Subject: [ROTH] Pailing/Paling/Payling > G'day Sandra and Alan > Yes please! > Just wondered if my mob had made it to Rotherham area earlier than 1881 > census which shows my ggf John Payling (Ag Lab from Fulbeck Lincs)/ ggm > Sarah nee Cobb living at 28 Oak Terrace, Green Lane Rawmarsh along side his > sister in law Mary Cobb. In 1871 if they were in Rawmarsh they would > probably have 11 children and a coal miner. > Would appreciate a look up please and also if there are any other references > to Paling/Pailing/Payling that I should follow up. > TIA, > Duncan Payling, Melbourne Australia > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Alan Davies" <sandalan@ntlworld.com> > To: <ENG-ROTHERHAM-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 4:57 PM > Subject: [ROTH] 1871 SURNAME INDEX > > > > WE HAVE THIS ROTHERHAM SURNAMES INDEX 1871 A-Z . IF ANYONE NEEDS ANY > LOOK UPS > > Regards Sandra & Alan > > > > > > ==== ENG-ROTHERHAM Mailing List ==== > > Do not post unsavoury material or anything which may upset others to the > list. Anyone doing so will be removed - as will those who reply to such > material - the listowner will deal with such issues off list. > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > ==== ENG-ROTHERHAM Mailing List ==== > Do not post any VIRUS information to the list - many virus messages are hoax - although some are not. If in doubt, never open messages with attachments unless you have specifically requested information. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

WE HAVE THIS ROTHERHAM SURNAMES INDEX 1871 A-Z . IF ANYONE NEEDS ANY LOOK UPS Regards Sandra & Alan

Could you please look up Didsbury and Boomer for me? Many thanks. Donna

Hello to all who requested a look up in the Christ Church parish Baptism registers. So far I have looked at the first five registers for Christ Church 1855 to July 1894. Some of the names have not appeared, so could they be in a different church register? These are my interpretation of the handwriting and is sometimes a guess at the names, so please check the film for yourself - available on loan from the LDS centres at 2 pounds 50 pence for 4 weeks. First a marriage of Ada TOTTY to Harry Salkeld 24 Aug, 1891 Baptisms: Surname, Parents, Abode, Occupation/trade/quality Children's forenames, date, page, item number ROBINSON,Joseph & Eliza, Mount Terrace, Miner Fanny Wilson, 11/9/1859, 17, 131 BARKER, Joseph & Elizabeth, W. Melton, miner Charlotte, 5/6/1887, 15, 117 BARKER< Herbert & Emily, West Melton, Miner Mary Ellen, 5/6/1887, 15, 118 BIELBY, John & Elizabeth, Coaly Lane, lab Emma Jane, 26/12/1875, ?, 703 Benjamin, 31/3/1878, 2, 10 (parents now simply shown as Brampton Bierlow) BISBY, John & Sarah, Packman Lane, Waterman Martha Elizabeth, 4/10/1863, 31, 241 BISBY, John & Sarah, Melton, Waterman Thate, 21/5/1865, 36, 283 CARR, Edward & Priscilla, Melton, miner Wilfred, 22/7/1860, 19,152 COOPER, jAMES & lUCY, West Melton, miner John, 2/10/1881, 28, 222 COOPER, Samuel & Lucy, W. Melton, miner Mary, 1/10/1882, 34, 207 EVERETT, Edward & Hannah, Melton, lab. Clara, 21/11/1870, 63, 502 HINCHLIFF, Seth & Jane, Melton, miner John Tom, 6/11/1869, 58, 463 HINCHLIFF, jAMES & sARAH aNN, fULWORTH, UNREADABLE sARAH eLLEN, 5/2/1879, 15, 113 aLICE, 5/2/1879, 15, 114 HITCHEN (or maybe Kitchen), George & Hephzibah Ann, West Melton, miner Gertrude,, 22/7/1880, 21, 161 Ava?, 22/7/1880, 21, 162 KITCHEN, Anne , (single woman?) Street, Laura (Harrwcch with ahorizontal line crossed through it??), 4/10/1891, 4, 347 KITCHEN, Thomas & Gertrude, Street, Groom Lawrence, 3/4/1892, 49, 387 George, 5/2/1893, 57, 455 (father shown as both a groom and a gardener) LAW, Robert & Fanny, Melton, Miner Alice, 1/9/1861, 24, 185 Robert, 1/9/1861, 24, 186 LAW, Alfred & Betsy, Melton, miner Mary, 2/10/1864, 34, 269 LAW, John & Ann, Melton, Joiner Joe, 26/5/1867, 45, 358 LAW, John & Ann, Wath, Joiner Alice, 7/7/1873, 75, 594 LAW, Henry & Eliza, Firth Lane, Miner Elizabeth, 19/8/1868, 51, 406 Ellis, 5/7/1882, 32, 254 (now of West Melton,) LAW, Herbert & Sarah, Melton, Shop keeper (grocer appears later as the trade) William Osacar, 6/9/1869, 57,452 Ann Elizabeth, 28/5/1871, 65, 516 Fanny, 14/1/1878, 100, 795 Herbert Samuel, 14/2/1880, 17, 134 LAW, Alfred & Jane, Newhills, miner Selina, 28/4/1874, ?, 624 MIDDLETON, George & Rebecca, West Melton, miner George, 5/3/1882, 31, 243 Henry, 5/10/1884, 46,363 OXLEY, William & Hannah, Street, Blacksmith Frederic, 11/11/1860, 21, 163 PEPPER, Joseph & Frances Maude, W. Melton, Engineer F (or J) nce??, 6/10/1889, 30, 237 PEPPER, Samuel & Alice, W. Melton, Horse Keeper Harold, 2/8/1891, 43, 339 Lucy Elizabeth, 3/6/1894, 71, 568 TOMLINSON, Henry & Mary, Melton, Labourer Harriet Ann, 30/6/1861, 23, 179 TOMLINSON, William & Hannah, Melton, Lab. Sarah Jane,13/9/1863, 30, 236 William, 3/10/1869, 58,461 Ernest Henry, 3/10/1869, 58, 462 Harry, 19/5/1872, ? 553 TOMLINSON, William & ANN, Melton, Caster Tom, 29/1/1865, 35, 279 More to come, hopefully George Regards George Toth of Stockport, UK Some names being researched: CASE worldwide TOTH - Europe/USA AREOFF & variants ALGER West Ham & Lincolnshire. GREENHOFF Barnsley HORS*MAN Bucks & London SALKELD Brampton Bierlow, Wath upon Dearne TAYLOR Brampton Bierlow & Barnsley, Yorks (pre 1896) & Canning Town, (post 1895) THORPE & NICHOLLS (Yorks & West Ham) NB - This digital cable Television system accepts text emails rejecting many other formats. It ADDS the truncated original message as an ATTACHMENT when replying. It does not have a cut & paste or address book. George

I came across the following site which mentions a Jack GREAVES of Rotherham, who served in the 422nd Squadron during WW II: http://www.georgian.net/422sqdrn/422greav.htm Jack Greaves - Rotherham - and others - history of 422 Squadron An address was given: Jack/Mary Greaves 34 Moss Close, Wickersley, Rotherham Yorkshire, England S66 0ET My GREAVES were originally from Rotherham, although my great-grandfather came to the US in the 1860's. I would be extremely interested in contacting any Greaves still in the area. Would someone living in Rotherham be able to check out this address for me to determine whether the family still lives there? Or what became of them? Thank you very much! Sue Renkert Fairbanks, Alaska

Hi listers, The following web site is good Site for Fretwell enquirers,, http://www.fretwell.kangaweb.com.au. this is the family that built Hellaby Hall pre 1695.. , It lists a lot of the Fretwell family tree, in James Diary there is some very interesting reading, One of my ancestors even gets a mention.. Good hunting.to Jean & Elaine regards to the Listers. Stan in Oz, Ex Maltby & Hellaby.

Jean Please could e mail off list I think I probably have some of yours may take a while to get back to you but I can keep your e mail address if you contact off list. Elaine

To: sande64@attglobal.net Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2003 1:40 PM Subject: Re: [ROTH] fretwell Hi Jean I would imagine the best way to start is to look for their marriages either on FreeBMD or in the GRO marriage index at your local archives. Mary's marriage may not be included, being born in 1817, if she married before the age of 20 then that's before registration began (in 1837). Hope this helps Tracy Listowner To: sande64@attglobal.net Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2003 1:40 PM Subject: Re: [ROTH] fretwell Hi Jean I would imagine the best way to start is to look for their marriages either on FreeBMD or in the GRO marriage index at your local archives. Mary's marriage may not be included, being born in 1817, if she married before the age of 20 then that's before registration began (in 1837). Hope this helps Tracy Listowner ----- Original Message ----- From: Jean Sanders To: ENG-ROTHERHAM-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2003 12:00 PM Subject: Re: [ROTH] fretwell Hello Elaine, I am also looking for FRETWELL. A relative, Benjamin SORSBY died in September, 1901, in Kimberworth.In his obituary in the Rotherham Advertiser his sisters, Mrs FRETWELL, Mrs FIELDSEND and Mrs CARR attended the funeral. They are probably widows but I am not sure which of his five sisters belong to each name. The sisters are Ann,b 1817, Sarah, b 1823, Mary, b 1828, Harriet, b 1830 and Louisa b 1832. The first 3 in Rawmarsh and the last two in Rotherham. If you come across any FRETWELL who would fit the above I would love to hear from you! Regards, Jean in Saddleworth Elaine LEE wrote:

Hello Elaine, I am also looking for FRETWELL. A relative, Benjamin SORSBY died in September, 1901, in Kimberworth.In his obituary in the Rotherham Advertiser his sisters, Mrs FRETWELL, Mrs FIELDSEND and Mrs CARR attended the funeral. They are probably widows but I am not sure which of his five sisters belong to each name. The sisters are Ann,b 1817, Sarah, b 1823, Mary, b 1828, Harriet, b 1830 and Louisa b 1832. The first 3 in Rawmarsh and the last two in Rotherham. If you come across any FRETWELL who would fit the above I would love to hear from you! Regards, Jean in Saddleworth Elaine LEE wrote: > > Hi > > I am trying to find the birth of my brickwall or anything really he is definately ISAAC FRETWELL born around 1795 according to army & police records, born near Sheffield, Edgetool Maker from Eckington. > > He id definately not the one born Doncaster or the one born Pennistone they lived on well past his death he died aged 40 in London (my Isaac that is). > > TIA for any help > > Elaine > > ==== ENG-ROTHERHAM Mailing List ==== > If you have any suggestions for improving the list, please email the listowner - Tracy. Email: tlh@party7.fsnet.co.uk > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Fretwell Heads of household-1851 Census CS Abraham Fretwell County: Derby Relation to Head of House: Head Place of Birth: Derbyshire, England, Shipley Gender: Male Age: 29 Marital Status: Married Occupation: Coal Miner Enumeration District: Shipley Address at Time of Census: Shipley Common Family Number: 4351 Benjamin Fretwell County: Derby Relation to Head of House: Head Place of Birth: Derbyshire, England, Shipley Gender: Male Age: 62 Marital Status: Married Occupation: Coal Miner Enumeration District: Shipley Address at Time of Census: Hassock Lane Family Number: 4114 Elizabeth Fretwell County: Norfolk Relation to Head of House: Head Place of Birth: Norfolk, England, South Runcto Gender: Female Age: 82 Marital Status: Widow Occupation: Annuitant Enumeration District: Wereham Address at Time of Census: Wereham Family Number: 9823 James Fretwell County: Derby Relation to Head of House: Head Place of Birth: Derbyshire, England, Shipley Gender: Male Age: 55 Marital Status: Married Occupation: Coal Miner Enumeration District: Shipley Address at Time of Census: Hassock Lane Family Number: 4120 Job Fretwell County: Derby Relation to Head of House: Head Place of Birth: Derbyshire, England, Shipley Gender: Male Age: 58 Marital Status: Married Occupation: Coal Wharf Labourer Enumeration District: Shipley Address at Time of Census: Shipley Common Family Number: 4385 Robert Fretwell County: Devonshire Relation to Head of House: Head Place of Birth: Gainsborough, Lincolnshire, England Gender: Male Age: 68 Marital Status: Married Occupation: Auctioneer & General Enumeration District: Exeter St Steph Address at Time of Census: 13 Castle St Separa Family Number: 274 Richard Saunders Woburn, MA

Stephen Please can you contact me off list re Beatson Clark Many thanks Karen Hill Sheffield, UK

Hi I am trying to find the birth of my brickwall or anything really he is definately ISAAC FRETWELL born around 1795 according to army & police records, born near Sheffield, Edgetool Maker from Eckington. He id definately not the one born Doncaster or the one born Pennistone they lived on well past his death he died aged 40 in London (my Isaac that is). TIA for any help Elaine

Hi I am trying to find the birth of my brickwall or anything really he is definately ISAAC FRETWELL born around 1795 according to army & police records, born near Sheffield, Edgetool Maker from Eckington. He id definately not the one born Doncaster or the one born Pennistone they lived on well past his death he died aged 40 in London (my Isaac that is). TIA for any help Elaine

Sorry listers, I made an error in a date on my last contribution. Correction - Page 70 Item No. in register 559 (Fred) and 560 (Mary) were both baptised on 30 June 1872. Parents John & Jane COOPER of Street. George Regards George Toth of Stockport, UK Some names being researched: CASE worldwide TOTH - Europe/USA AREOFF & variants ALGER West Ham & Lincolnshire. GREENHOFF Barnsley HORS*MAN Bucks & London SALKELD Brampton Bierlow, Wath upon Dearne TAYLOR Brampton Bierlow & Barnsley, Yorks (pre 1896) & Canning Town, (post 1895) THORPE & NICHOLLS (Yorks & West Ham) NB - This digital cable Television system accepts text emails rejecting many other formats. It ADDS the truncated original message as an ATTACHMENT when replying. It does not have a cut & paste or address book. George

Hi Listers Am unsubscribing for the summer. Going out to British Columbia, to frolic in the waves. (I wish!) My summer e-mail address, if anyone needs it: cbostonca@yahoo.ca Hope everyone has a lovely summer (or winter, as the case may be :-) See you in September! Regards Caroline Boston nee Whitehead Ontario, Canada