Thanks Mark, the further back you go, the population really get small and the names stand out in family groups, even if you have to allow a little latitude for name changes and variations. I have not knowingly come across those names, but will look up the files. The Wills index in the Borthwick Institute York is a great starting point and in some of the large wills of Vicars etc you almost get a whos who of York and the villages. The 1400s and 1500s wills are however quite annoying as the people leave there goods to Thomas, William etc but never say where Thomas and William lives!! in one case I find the Vicar of Kirkby upon Wharf who died in 1540 leaving his goods including a great suit of armour to his family some 40 miles away in the north of Yorkshire. only the detailed names etc tell you that it is the same family. Just to give an example from a large 1460s will of Chaplain Henry Cattall of St Martin cum Gregory Church, Micklegate, York, we have. JOHN WRIGHT a fishmonger, JOHN BURTON a Rector, WILLIAM HANCOK a vicar at Lodyngton, WILLIAM THOMSON , JOHN MARCHE, JOHN PARKE, JOHN HAMERTON, THOMAS THORP, HENRY ARCHER, GEORGE HUETT, JOHN NARE, JOHN YOMAN, ROBERT WISTOWE, WILLIAM GRINLAY, JOHN USWORTH---all chaplains, monks or vicars, etc etc.. Will keep an eye out for your family names. William