Hi Jenny, Long silence! Hope all's well with you and yours. Just picked up your query - have been away over the weekend. I have 2 Thomas HIRSTs on my HIRST/RUSSELL file, neither exactly the right age. You may already have either or both and have dismissed them as unlikely candidates: 1) Thomas HIRST, third son of Godfrey HIRST & Ann RUSSELL, was baptised in Northallerton on 9 Jul 1846. He later married Annie (possibly BIRD) and had at least four children. 2) Thomas B. HIRST was a nephew of the other Thomas, as he was the grandson of Godfrey & Ann, and eldest son of their second child Godfrey & his wife ?Hannah. This Thomas was born in Eskdaleside, NRY, his mother's birthplace, in about 1869, and it is his father who is the jet ornament manufacturer. Any good??? Best wishes, Roz in crisp bright North Yorkshire

Hi Roz, Thankyou for the information but you had already give me most of it in the past. I never dismiss any mention of Hirst or Russell in this area of North Yorkshire, the name seems more prominent in the West Riding when you get back in time and that is where my Hirst appear to originate from until Godfrey Hirst his wife Dorothy Dunhill took over the Golden Lion Coachin Inn in the High St. at Northallerton in about 1770. I believe I have that Godfrey's birth in Owston in 1735 son of Jonathan Hirst. I found that Thomas and his brother Godfrey, the sons of Godfrey Hirst and his wife Ann Russell that you mention, seem to have married two sisters, Ann & Hannah Bird. I have found Godfrey and Ann's children in the 1901 census all over the place. I will note them here in case it rings bells with anyone else researching the Hirst name at all, though I seem to be the only peson on this list with this surname. SonGodfrey moved to Whitby where he had a Jet factory and apparently was noted for making Jet Mosaics which were sent all over the world, but he sold them kind of anonymously as being made by a "Whitby man in Whitby". He is in Whitby in 1881 & 1891. but died in Jan. 1901 at Heaton Newcastle where I found his widow and children in that census. Son Thomas, son of Godfrey and Annie, and his wife Ann Bird and their children appear to have moved to Hull by at least 1901, there are earlier family connections of the Hirst family to Hull They wereliving at Kelfield in 1881 and I found baptisms of children at Stillingfleet. Son Henry and his family moved to Gateshead by 1881 are in Jesmond in 1901 Their mother Annie Hirst neé Russel, widow of the elder Godfrey, had her photo taken in Newcstle in around 1881 and she died in Newcatle in 1887. The informant on her death certificate is daughter Ann, now Weighill, who I found living in 1881 at Gateshead. So it seems that most of the Hirst family moved away from Northallerton by 1881. There are only a few Hirst left in Northallerton in that census. My family of Hirsts seem to have been the only family by that name in the town in the 1851 census. I have checked a lot of the villages aroung the town in the 1851 census for Hirsts but have not checked Brompton where I think there may have been one or two others. The Thomas Hirst who is puzzling me is one I found in the 1881 living at Hunwick & Helmintgon DUR but born in Northallerton aged 26 working as a farm servant. I found what must be him in the 1901 living in the same place but married to an Elizabeth who was born in Workington CUL. Thomas is working as a Farm Labourer. I can't work out whose son he was, born about 1857. I found a couple of other Northallerton born Hirsts living elsewhere in the 1881 and 1901 that I can't quite place, I think that they were wives and children of deceased Hirsts and must have had a connection to my family but not sure where the connection was. But I am getting there bit by bit. I need the 1891 census to come on line so that I can check all of these people in all of these different places. Regards Jenny DeAngelis. Spain. > Long silence! Hope all's well with you and yours. Just picked up your query > - have been away over the weekend. > > I have 2 Thomas HIRSTs on my HIRST/RUSSELL file, neither exactly the right > age. You may already have either or both and have dismissed them as unlikely > candidates: > > 1) Thomas HIRST, third son of Godfrey HIRST & Ann RUSSELL, was baptised in > Northallerton on 9 Jul 1846. He later married Annie (possibly BIRD) and had > at least four children. > > 2) Thomas B. HIRST was a nephew of the other Thomas, as he was the grandson > of Godfrey & Ann, and eldest son of their second child Godfrey & his wife > ?Hannah. This Thomas was born in Eskdaleside, NRY, his mother's birthplace, in > about 1869, and it is his father who is the jet ornament manufacturer. > > Any good??? > Best wishes, > Roz > in crisp bright North Yorkshire >