By the way Laura, what year are you looking for in the census? Sometimes too Jack is a pet name for John. In 1901 there is a family, with a William and Margaret, childrens names, Sarah, William, John, Leslie, and Ann in East Witton, Leyburn. In 1891 childrens names, Ralph S, Sarah J, Mary E, Ann, William R and John. In 1881 there is a Margaret Hardy and children Ralph and Sarah Jane as visitors in a family called Stott in East Witton Without. If this is the family you are looking for I can give you further details. Jo :) http://www.tribalpages.com/tribes/jo14 I use Archive CD Books to do my family history research http://www.archivecdbooks.org/ http://www.british-genealogy.com/forums/index.php?referrerid=18 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Laura Broughton" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 2:22 PM Subject: [NYorks] Help with shortened names > Hello list > i am having problems with finding a name, does anyone know if Molly was > short for something else? And similarly the name Sally (like betty, lizzy > or eliza are short for elizabeth)....i just cant seem to find this person > who should be living in the leyburn area with parents william and margaret > hardy. I am having trouble doing the look up probably because i am > entering "sally" when it is short for something else, or a middle name. > > These are the only names and dates i have: > > William Hardy - father > Margaret Hardy (previously stott?) - mother > leslie hardy - sept 1891 - my great grandfather > ralph hardy > jack hardy > sally hardy > molly hardy > william hardy > annie hardy > > If anyone is researching this area and happens to have any information or > look ups i would be very grateful! > > Many thanks > Laura > > > ==== ENG-NORTH-YORKS Mailing List ==== > Hoaxes and Urban Legends on the Internet > http://www.snopes.com/ > <A HREF="http://www.snopes.com/">Snopes.com</a> > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > >

Hi, > Sometimes too Jack is a pet name for John. We have to be a bit careful though. The births indexes show that plenty of children were actually named Jack, Betsy, Tom, Sally, Fred and so on. One recurring problem with transcripts is that names on census pages frequently give an abbreviated name followed by a colon, as in Eliza: On most occasions, this will have been transcribed as Eliza and not Elizabeth. One can never win! Jim Balmer Website: freespace.virgin.net/jim.balmer

>> Sometimes too Jack is a pet name for John. > > We have to be a bit careful though. The births indexes show that plenty > of children were actually named Jack, Betsy, Tom, Sally, Fred and so on. I do a considerable amount of work with the US census. A transcription is always done exactly as written. When entering data in a family file, I will use the "shortened" or "pet" name if it's listed. If I come upon a second source with a longer or variant name, I will then use that as a primary with the pet name in quotes following. Brian Cartwright