Some years ago I found an ancester of mine signed such a Roll at Alnwick, way out of your area. But it must have been nation wide My question is are such Rolls available in North Yorkshire and have they been Transcribed onto disc etc.? Would Richmondshire Rolls be at Chester or at Northallerton ? All my known ancesters are from the top 20 miles of Yorkshire, all of Co Durham, Northumberland, the Borders and Caithness. Wishing you all a fruitful 2008 in your research and hope that someone can give me a clue Jack

Laurie, I have checked my records and I think your John was the son of Thomas who was born Terrington in 1772 and was therefore was the brother of my 3x gt grandfather Leonard Kirby, They all left Terrington and moved to Carlton near Helmsley in the late 1700s early 1800s. Does this fit with the information that you have? Sheila -----Original Message----- From: eng-north-yorks-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-north-yorks-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Laurie Kirby (aka Laurie Keller) Sent: 19 December 2007 12:32 To: eng-north-yorks@rootsweb.com Subject: [ENG-NORTH-YORKS] Osgoodby near Kilburn The post by Laurel Sayer mentioned hamlets near Kilburn and included Osgoodby. My husband's Kirby ancestors farmed in Lower Osgoodby for three generations (John Kirby 1798 - 1882, Thomas Kirby 1820 - 1893 and Francis Peacock Kirby (1858 -?). The family moved there from Helmsley sometime between Thomas's birth in 1820 and the 1841 census, and they left after the death of Thomas in about 1895 to far in Huntington.) The house mentioned in the 1891 census is Witham House. (Other censuses just list Lower Osgoodby.) In a trip to Yorkshire last year we went in search of Lower Osgoodby but were unable to find it, or to find Witham House. Can anyone give me a map reference or other information for either the hamlet of Lower Osgoodby or Witham House or its associated farm? ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-NORTH-YORKS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The modern Low Osgoodby Grange is at gr 486802; High Osgoodby Grange is at gr 494803. Just above this farm is White Houses, which may have been entered in the census as Whitham. Paddy Buckley ----- Original Message ----- From: Laurie Kirby (aka Laurie Keller) To: eng-north-yorks@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 11:31 AM Subject: [ENG-NORTH-YORKS] Osgoodby near Kilburn The post by Laurel Sayer mentioned hamlets near Kilburn and included Osgoodby. My husband's Kirby ancestors farmed in Lower Osgoodby for three generations (John Kirby 1798 - 1882, Thomas Kirby 1820 - 1893 and Francis Peacock Kirby (1858 -?). The family moved there from Helmsley sometime between Thomas's birth in 1820 and the 1841 census, and they left after the death of Thomas in about 1895 to far in Huntington.) The house mentioned in the 1891 census is Witham House. (Other censuses just list Lower Osgoodby.) In a trip to Yorkshire last year we went in search of Lower Osgoodby but were unable to find it, or to find Witham House. Can anyone give me a map reference or other information for either the hamlet of Lower Osgoodby or Witham House or its associated farm? ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-NORTH-YORKS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.4/1189 - Release Date: 18/12/07 21:40

Low Osgoodby is on my map as being about 1/2 mile due west of high Osgoodby, On the old maps website it is shown as a cluster of houses, none of which are named individually. http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/NRY/Kilburn/index.html this reference gives its population as 29 so it may have banished by now! I have Kirbys in the Helmsley area as well but can't see any connection as yet! Good luck, Sheila Harris -----Original Message----- From: eng-north-yorks-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-north-yorks-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Laurie Kirby (aka Laurie Keller) Sent: 19 December 2007 12:32 To: eng-north-yorks@rootsweb.com Subject: [ENG-NORTH-YORKS] Osgoodby near Kilburn The post by Laurel Sayer mentioned hamlets near Kilburn and included Osgoodby. My husband's Kirby ancestors farmed in Lower Osgoodby for three generations (John Kirby 1798 - 1882, Thomas Kirby 1820 - 1893 and Francis Peacock Kirby (1858 -?). The family moved there from Helmsley sometime between Thomas's birth in 1820 and the 1841 census, and they left after the death of Thomas in about 1895 to far in Huntington.) The house mentioned in the 1891 census is Witham House. (Other censuses just list Lower Osgoodby.) In a trip to Yorkshire last year we went in search of Lower Osgoodby but were unable to find it, or to find Witham House. Can anyone give me a map reference or other information for either the hamlet of Lower Osgoodby or Witham House or its associated farm? ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-NORTH-YORKS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The post by Laurel Sayer mentioned hamlets near Kilburn and included Osgoodby. My husband's Kirby ancestors farmed in Lower Osgoodby for three generations (John Kirby 1798 - 1882, Thomas Kirby 1820 - 1893 and Francis Peacock Kirby (1858 -?). The family moved there from Helmsley sometime between Thomas's birth in 1820 and the 1841 census, and they left after the death of Thomas in about 1895 to far in Huntington.) The house mentioned in the 1891 census is Witham House. (Other censuses just list Lower Osgoodby.) In a trip to Yorkshire last year we went in search of Lower Osgoodby but were unable to find it, or to find Witham House. Can anyone give me a map reference or other information for either the hamlet of Lower Osgoodby or Witham House or its associated farm?

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Laurie: "Can anyone give me a map reference or other > information for either the hamlet of Lower Osgoodby or Witham House > or its associated farm?" You might want to try the original ordnance map for that area. Probably from the 1830s or 1840s. You can try oldmaps.com http://www.old-maps.co.uk/ or British History on-line: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/map.aspx?compid=55145 When you find the copy of the map you want you can order it from the Ordance Survey. Good Luck Michael

Attention Metcalfe researchers! There is mention on the IGI's Ancestral File (ref. AFN: 15C1-QCP) of a Lawrence Sayer b c 1597, of Hood Grange, Yorkshire, who married an Ann Metcalfe. It suggests that Ann was the daughter of Anthony Metcalfe of Hood Grange (1554-1638) and Eleanor nee Lambert of Owlton, Durham (1570-1651), Eleanor Lambert herself being the daughter of Robert Lambert and Catterick Catterick. It also indicates that the Metcalfes originated from Nappa and Swinethwaite in Wensleydale. Hood Grange, a farm house in the parish of Kilburn, lies less than 2 miles NNW of Kilburn, and 6 miles from Thirsk. Other hamlets in Kilburn include High Kilburn, Low Kilburn, Oldstead, Oldstead Grange, Osgoodby, and Wass. Nearby we have the parishes of Coxwold (with Wildon Grange, Byland Membris, Angam Grange, Byland, Newburgh, Baxby, Birdforth, Oulston, Thornton On The HiLl, and Thornton); Great Thirkleby, Husthwaite, Cold Kirby, Scawton, Thormanby, Felixkirk, Ampleforth, Old byland, Sessay, and Kirby Knowle (which includes Bagby). So, which Lawrence Sayer is this? I cant identify him I thought I would tackle this by trying to find out more about the Ann Metcalfe he married. eg. was she Catholic, were her parents landed gentry. Did her father Anthony Metcalfe leave a will etc? . As to the Sayer families in the area, there are several records for South Kilvington in the late 1500s -1600s including Elizabeth ,1592 and John , 1594 - both children of a William Sayer. The only Sayer's linked to any of the locations nearby Hood Grange at the time in question are: - Leonard, son of Hugh and katherine Sayer, married Mary Wright and died at Bagby in 1627. Richard Sayer - buried at Sessay. He was a priest and son of Francis and Anne of Marrick of Yarm and tentatively linked to brothers Anthony, Ralph and Agnes Saier (both bap 1589 Grindon by Stockton on Tees). Ralf also died at Sessay. Hope someone can help! cheers Laurel Sayer

Hello Paddy, Thank you for your reply. All the Kilvingtons of my family have been found at Landmoth (to date). I have traced them definitely back to 1686 and have information that they were there back to the 1500s. Kilvington appears to have been a Nth Yorkshire name, so further back still, all the families possible converge on one place and the Victoria History series seems to indicate South Kilvington in the 1300s. I think sometimes that I should begin a one name study, but time and other interests doesn't allow. It's interesting to see that different families of the same name had a distinctive cluster of forenames that were used generation after generation. Barbara doesn't appear in any of the people I have traced to date, for instance, mine are all Thomas, Elizabeth, Mary, Hannah, Harriet, William , John, Jane, James etc. I shall add your Barbara to my database, you never know, there may be a link somewhere, someday. Regards Ailsa Petrie Paddy Buckley wrote: > Hi Ailsa > I have only one Kilvin(g)ton on my database. On May 20 1754 Barbara Kilvinton married Thomas Tyerman at Osmotherley in North Yorkshire. She was buried there on May 11 1781. They had at least two children. > Paddy > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Ailsa Petrie > To: Rootsweb Nth Yorkshire List > Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 7:32 AM > Subject: [ENG-NORTH-YORKS] South Kilvington Monumental Inscriptions > > >

If anyone on the list has access to the above MIs, would they be so kind as to have a look for the following names for me, please? I am interested in any mention of the KILVINGTON name. Also the following: Thomas Hunton HAMILTON, died January 1964 Edith Mary HAMILTON, died 3 February 1964 Dorothy Ann HAMILTON, born 1854, died ???? With many thanks Ailsa Petrie Hamilton New Zealand

Hi Ailsa, I have details of the South Cowton MI for Thomas Kilvington ELLERTON on my Website: http://freespace.virgin.net/bob.ellerton/MI-Yorkshire.htm The name Kilvington crops up several times on one of my ELLERTON trees: http://freespace.virgin.net/bob.ellerton/Trees/Matthew1744.htm Thanks, Bob -----Original Message----- From: eng-north-yorks-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-north-yorks-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Ailsa Petrie Sent: 14 December 2007 07:32 To: Rootsweb Nth Yorkshire List Subject: [ENG-NORTH-YORKS] South Kilvington Monumental Inscriptions If anyone on the list has access to the above MIs, would they be so kind as to have a look for the following names for me, please? I am interested in any mention of the KILVINGTON name. Also the following: Thomas Hunton HAMILTON, died January 1964 Edith Mary HAMILTON, died 3 February 1964 Dorothy Ann HAMILTON, born 1854, died ???? With many thanks Ailsa Petrie Hamilton New Zealand ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-NORTH-YORKS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message This message (including any attachments) contains confidential and/or proprietary information intended only for the addressee. Any unauthorized disclosure, copying, distribution or reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited and may constitute a violation of law. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by responding to this e-mail, and delete the message from your system. If you have any questions about this e-mail please notify the sender immediately.

Hi Ailsa I have only one Kilvin(g)ton on my database. On May 20 1754 Barbara Kilvinton married Thomas Tyerman at Osmotherley in North Yorkshire. She was buried there on May 11 1781. They had at least two children. Paddy ----- Original Message ----- From: Ailsa Petrie To: Rootsweb Nth Yorkshire List Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 7:32 AM Subject: [ENG-NORTH-YORKS] South Kilvington Monumental Inscriptions I am interested in any mention of the KILVINGTON name. With many thanks Ailsa Petrie Hamilton New Zealand

I presume you intended to directed your post to me? if so it might have been useful if you gave a little more info rather than just simply three surnames. (Which is why I set-up this simple website to promote exchange of data and to focus attention on places and approx dates.) Bernie, I humbly beg your pardon and the list's for my incredible lack of detail. I have no website, so here is my line. Gen I. Joseph COTTINGHAM and Jane ALDERSON of Swaledale- nine children: Mary, Jane, Dixon, Elizabeth, John, Esther, Miles, Margaret, and Anthony. Matthew METCALFE and Mary SCAR of Askrigg - five children: James, John, Mary, Elizabeth, and Isabella. Gen II. Dixon COTTINGHAM b Gunnerside,1803 and Isabella METCALFE b Askrigg,1812 were married in Askrigg, 1834 - six children: Matthew Metcalfe, John, Jane, Dixon, Mary and Joseph. Gen III. Dixon COTTINGHAM b 1840 and Barbara WHITE , 1842 were married in Wisconsin, 1861. - [Barbara WHITE was daughter to Thomas WHITE and Margaret COATES, b 1823, Crackpot. Thomas and Margaret were married 1841, Grinton.] - three children: Elma Mae, Elizabeth and Eva, all b in Iowa. Elma Mae COTTINGHAM and Frank Wesley LUKE, m Dubuque, Iowa, 1902 were my ggrandparents. I hope the above was more useful. All interested parties please contact: DianneSlipkid@comcast.net Thank You, Dianne Krogh Oak Harbor, WA

Dianne, You said: >"Three names from your site match mine: Cottingham, Metcalfe and White. "< I presume you intended to directed your post to me? if so it might have been useful if you gave a little more info rather than just simply three surnames. (Which is why I set-up this simple website to promote exchange of data and to focus attention on places and approx dates.) However, METCALFE: a George PLEWS b. 1764 Patrick Brompton, married Margaret METCALFE b. 1761 b One of their offspring, Richard PLEWS b. Sep 20 1803, Catterick married Martha JACKSON b. 1807, Marrick, daur of George JACKSON b. 1780, Marrick and Sp. Elizabeth WHITE b. 1778, Grinton on Aug 21 1827, Marske.( Eliz. was the daur of Thomas WHITE and Eliz. STONE she married George JACKSON Aug 10 1807, Marrick. c A sibling of the above Richard, Christopher PLEWS b. Feb 26 1799, married Isabel METCALFE, Feb 18 1814, Marske. d COTTINGHAM, Manchester 170 - 1800 links to my maternal TEMPEST line. Does any of this interest you? Regards Barrie Sharples North Yorkshire For my Surnames interests - visit: http:/www.freewebs.com/barrie Updated May 2006

----- Original Message ----- From: "Barrie Sharples" <b.sharples@ntlworld.com> To: <eng-north-yorks@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 5:04 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-NORTH-YORKS] Where is Folecote? > Dianne, > You said: >>"Three names from your site match mine: Cottingham, Metcalfe and White. >>"< I too would be interested in your METCALFEs. Barrie said: > However, METCALFE: > a George PLEWS b. 1764 Patrick Brompton, married Margaret METCALFE b. > 1761 Are the places where your METCALFEs come from anywhere near Northallerton? Two names which appear to be common among my husband's are Leonard and Enos, in and around Northallerton. Toni ~ Ontario

JG: >"This is giving 404."< ???? Barrie Sharples North Yorkshire For my Surnames interests - visit: http:/www.freewebs.com/barrie Updated May 2006

Hello, Thanks for posting your website address. Three names from your site match mine: Cottingham, Metcalfe and White. Dianne Krogh DianneSlipkid@comcast.net Oak Harbor, WA

Barrie Sharples wrote: > For my Surnames interests - visit: > http:/www.freewebs.com/barrie > This is giving 404.

Hi Paddy, Which family name are you researching? I may have some PR details; happy to check for you. Regards, Roz

Hi Paddy, You asked: I>" have not been able to locate Folecote on any modern map........Does anyone recognise the name?"< It is located approx. 4.5 mls S.E. of Ripon, it is on the Monks Wall off the western side How Hill Road. (The lane that leads round to the former main entrance to Fountains Abbey) >From Sawley Hall take a line due east through the ancient fishpond it will bring you to Foal Cote at S.E. 269 669. Hope answers your question. Regards Barrie Sharples North Yorkshire For my Surnames interests - visit: http:/www.freewebs.com/barrie Updated May 2006