Dear Sandra, I just found this e-mail on the list. Please forgive me for contacting you directly - I'm not yet sure of the protocol of the list as I have only just subscribed. I notice you are transcribing gravestones from the Kirbymoorside area and wondered whether you provide this service for anybody i.e. would you be able to look up some details on my family? I'm not sure if you do this out of the goodness of your heart or you require payment and if so, I am willing to pay you for your services. I have been tracing part of my family tree in Kirbymoorside but now that I have relocated to Glasgow because of my husband's job my activities in North Yorkshire are slightly limited!!! I am tracing a part of the Coverdale family who were in Kirbymoorside in the 18th and 19th century. I start with William Coverdale (born July 1800 and married to Ann Hugill in Jan 1827). I believe they lived at Bog Hall (Hole?) and were yeoman farmers. They had multitudinous children (10 at least - makes you shudder doesn't it?- I have 2 and that's plenty!) and their eldest daughter Elizabeth was my great great great grandmother. She moved away and is probably not buried in Kirbymoorside but some of her siblings might be. Their names were Job, Jane Elizabeth, Hannah, Henry, John, William, Ann, Anne (so presumably one of the Ann's died in infancy) and Mary. Again, I presume that some of the girls wouldn't have been buried with that surname. I'd be delighted to get any information on William and Ann Coverdale and any other Coverdales mentioned in the graveyards - there were many of them and each generation seemed to have the same names! Dates of deaths and relationships would be very helpful in sorting out the Coverdale mystery I have before me! I guess you are probably inundated with requests of this nautre and I wouldn't like you to go to lots of trouble of my behalf. However, if you are willing to help I would be very grateful for any information you are able to give me. Many thanks. Regards, Jane Jones ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sandra Wilson" <sandra@staithes.demon.co.uk> To: <ENG-NORTH-YORKS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2003 11:47 AM Subject: [N'Yorks] RE Farndale/Gillamoor churchyards > Andy Sefton - I don't have your e-mail address so I will reply through > the list > > sorry for the delay in getting back to you. I have now transcribed all > of the stones at Gillamoor and will be putting it on my web site and the > Kirkbymoorside town web site. Then I will start on St Gregory's Minster > at Kirkdale and others around Kirkbymoorside. I have been given an index > of Kirkbymoorside churchyard but I have to link that to the actual > inscriptions and then put that on too.I can do look ups of people names > and dates in the meantime. Farndale has apparently already been done and > is held by Cleveland FHS. This could become my life's work but I must > admit I enjoy it! > I will post details to the lists when they are ready. > Anyway-this is what I have for you > Hope it is of use > Happy hunting > Sandra > > Gillamoor Curchyard > > MARY relict of JOHN SHEPHERD of Helmsley died January 8 1889 aged 80 > ................................ > JOHN SHEPHERD of Gillimoor (sic) Mill died May 14 1869 aged 51 > Also JOSEPH SHEPHERD brother of the above died 19 May 1869 aged 50 > ................................ > JOHN ATKINSON SHEPHERD, The Lodge, Sinnington, died Nov 15 1912 aged 53 > > > ==== ENG-NORTH-YORKS Mailing List ==== > Have you visited the *NEW* RootsWeb/Ancestry Message Boards yet? Take a > tour soon & learn how time-saving those "Gateway" messages are compared > to trying to find the *new* ones on your own. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Lee, The mothers names didnt always appear on the baptism records however this wasnt the norm. It is dependednt on the vicar, for example some made notes on a piece of paper then did it at a later time some did it there and then and some did it from memory. It could be due to poor memory and I suppose it could be because mum had died. In transcribing my local parish baptisms I have found this occuring in an adult baptism however these tend to be preceeded with an age. I hope this doesnt ask more questions than it answers rob ========Original Message======== Subj: [N'Yorks] Request For Help Please ? Date: 4/6/03 5:01:12 PM GMT Daylight Time From: <A HREF="mailto:henderson.fam4@ntlworld.com">henderson.fam4@ntlworld.com</A> Reply-to: <A HREF="mailto:ENG-NORTH-YORKS-L@rootsweb.com">ENG-NORTH-YORKS-L@rootsweb.com</A> To: <A HREF="mailto:ENG-NORTH-YORKS-L@rootsweb.com">ENG-NORTH-YORKS-L@rootsweb.com</A> Sent from the Internet (Details) Hello Once Again Hitting My Self Against A brick Wall. Trying To Locate My Ancesters. Please If Anyone Could Help i would be most gratefull. My 4x Great Grandfather Thomas Seymour Was Born In St Martin's Village, Richmond, North Yorkshire. In 1777. He Was Christened At St Mary's Church, Richmond, North Yorkshire. Mother's Name Not Stated On Baptism Record. Does Anyone Know Why That Was ? Anyway He Was A Paper Maker. He Was The Son Of: Thomas Seymour, Also A Paper Maker. Mother Still Unknown ? Thankyou Lee ==== ENG-NORTH-YORKS Mailing List ==== Uh-Oh!!! <----- Missed or deleted a post that would put a crack in your wall? Remember, day and night, the RootsWeb Archives are always there to browse or search from http://www.rootsweb.com . ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Andy Sefton - I don't have your e-mail address so I will reply through the list sorry for the delay in getting back to you. I have now transcribed all of the stones at Gillamoor and will be putting it on my web site and the Kirkbymoorside town web site. Then I will start on St Gregory's Minster at Kirkdale and others around Kirkbymoorside. I have been given an index of Kirkbymoorside churchyard but I have to link that to the actual inscriptions and then put that on too.I can do look ups of people names and dates in the meantime. Farndale has apparently already been done and is held by Cleveland FHS. This could become my life's work but I must admit I enjoy it! I will post details to the lists when they are ready. Anyway-this is what I have for you Hope it is of use Happy hunting Sandra Gillamoor Curchyard MARY relict of JOHN SHEPHERD of Helmsley died January 8 1889 aged 80 ................................ JOHN SHEPHERD of Gillimoor (sic) Mill died May 14 1869 aged 51 Also JOSEPH SHEPHERD brother of the above died 19 May 1869 aged 50 ................................ JOHN ATKINSON SHEPHERD, The Lodge, Sinnington, died Nov 15 1912 aged 53

Hello And Goodevening To All, If Any Kind Soul Out There Has Access To The Baptism Records Of St Mary's, Richmond Near Leyburn. Of Thomas Seymour/Seymore. Baptised August 1777. Thanks Lee

Hello Once Again Hitting My Self Against A brick Wall. Trying To Locate My Ancesters. Please If Anyone Could Help i would be most gratefull. My 4x Great Grandfather Thomas Seymour Was Born In St Martin's Village, Richmond, North Yorkshire. In 1777. He Was Christened At St Mary's Church, Richmond, North Yorkshire. Mother's Name Not Stated On Baptism Record. Does Anyone Know Why That Was ? Anyway He Was A Paper Maker. He Was The Son Of: Thomas Seymour, Also A Paper Maker. Mother Still Unknown ? Thankyou Lee

Hello, My family were DAYKINS of Arkengarthdale in the 19th century. I would be pleased to have contact with anyone connected to them. Those with an interest in Arkengarthdale may be interested to know that I have produced three works in connection with local history of the parish - Arkengarthdale in 1891 (a portrait of the dale in that period), a book of the Memorial Inscriptions of St Mary's Arkengarthdale, and a transcript of the 1891 census of the parish. If anyone is interested in obtaining a copy of any of these please e-mail me. With best wishes, Ian _____________________________________________________________________________________________ Father Ian Gomersall Parish Priest of St Chrysostoms, Manchester UK & Anglican Chaplain to Universities of Manchester Please visit our church website: www.way.to/chrysostoms

Derek, Thanks for that. However I'm looking at 50 years ago now and don't really expect there to be any descendants. What I was really trying to do was tie the house name Langdale into number 17 or 70 Filey Road. Sorry if I didn't make myself clear but thanks for your input. Best regards Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "derek.streets" <derek.streets@btinternet.com> To: <ENG-NORTH-YORKS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2003 9:50 AM Subject: RE: [N'Yorks] Scarborough Hi, Sorry mate no Hewson and only one Carpenter in Filey Road, but this is Filey Rd Flixton which is a village just outside Scarborough, heres the info, T C Carpenter 31 Filey Rd Flixton tel 01723 891096 Hope this helps Derek in sunny Scarborough -----Original Message----- From: jimbratton [mailto:jimbratton@onetel.net.uk] Sent: 04 April 2003 19:29 To: ENG-NORTH-YORKS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [N'Yorks] Scarborough I had relatives around 1950 living at 17 or 70 Filey Road. Their name was HEWSON or CARPENTER and the house name I think was Langdale. Could anyone local confirm that please. If the house is still there it should have the same name hopefully. Thank you in advance for your trouble. Regards Jim . ==== ENG-NORTH-YORKS Mailing List ==== Uh-Oh!!! <----- Missed or deleted a post that would put a crack in your wall? Remember, day and night, the RootsWeb Archives are always there to browse or search from http://www.rootsweb.com . ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 ==== ENG-NORTH-YORKS Mailing List ==== NO Virus warnings, seasonal greetings or private 'chit-chat' on this list, okay! Other than that, anything pertaining to the lives and times of those we seek goes, but MUST be kept within the *List's Golden Rule*. ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Hi, Sorry mate no Hewson and only one Carpenter in Filey Road, but this is Filey Rd Flixton which is a village just outside Scarborough, heres the info, T C Carpenter 31 Filey Rd Flixton tel 01723 891096 Hope this helps Derek in sunny Scarborough -----Original Message----- From: jimbratton [mailto:jimbratton@onetel.net.uk] Sent: 04 April 2003 19:29 To: ENG-NORTH-YORKS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [N'Yorks] Scarborough I had relatives around 1950 living at 17 or 70 Filey Road. Their name was HEWSON or CARPENTER and the house name I think was Langdale. Could anyone local confirm that please. If the house is still there it should have the same name hopefully. Thank you in advance for your trouble. Regards Jim . ==== ENG-NORTH-YORKS Mailing List ==== Uh-Oh!!! <----- Missed or deleted a post that would put a crack in your wall? Remember, day and night, the RootsWeb Archives are always there to browse or search from http://www.rootsweb.com . ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Hi John, Thanks for your suggestions regarding Jane THOMPSON. I haven't been able to find the GRO index for her marriage so I don't have a marriage certificate. I am just working from the 1881 census and the birth certificate of her daughter. Thanks again, Jeannine ----- Original Message ----- From: "john ferguson" <fergy@fergy.karoo.co.uk> To: <ENG-NORTH-YORKS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 04, 2003 2:01 PM Subject: Re: [N'Yorks] THOMPSON - Kirkbymoorside > hi I have the 1861 census index for yorks in the course of preperation by > the East yorks fam his socc. about 80% complete and already there are more > than enough candidates for your ancestor. I think you will have to give her > fathers name to identify is it from the marriage details. even then as > there are a number of janes not living with their parents to make it > straightforward. It might be better to look at the 1851 census but so long > before they may not be anywhere near. Thompson and its variant names is in > the top 20 of english surnames and those amonst the most difficult to trace > kind regards John Ferguson > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jeannine Labelle" <labelle7453@rogers.com> > To: <ENG-NORTH-YORKS-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, April 04, 2003 1:46 AM > Subject: [N'Yorks] THOMPSON - Kirkbymoorside > > > > Hello, > > I was wondering if anyone has access to the 1851 and 1861 census for > Kirkbymoorside, and would be able to do a lookup for me. > > I am trying to find the parents and possible siblings of Jane THOMPSON. > I have the following information for her. On Dec 11 1862 Jane THOMPSON gave > birth to a daughter, Elizabeth. At this time she resided at Dale End, > Kirkbymoorside, and would be about 19 years old. She was not married at this > time. Jane THOMPSON eventually married John WRIGHT of Helmsley. > > > > Thank You, > > Jeannine Labelle, > > Canada > > > > > > ==== ENG-NORTH-YORKS Mailing List ==== > > Have you visited the *NEW* RootsWeb/Ancestry Message Boards yet? Take a > > tour soon & learn how time-saving those "Gateway" messages are compared > > to trying to find the *new* ones on your own. > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > ==== ENG-NORTH-YORKS Mailing List ==== > ---> Some placed you don't want to miss!! > ~~ "Newbies' Guide: http://www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html ~~ > ~~ Genuki England: http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/ ~~ > ~~ UK Public Records Office: http://www.pro.gov.uk ~~ > ~~ UK Newspapers? http://dds.nl/~kidon/media-link/ukpapers.shtml ~~ > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

I had relatives around 1950 living at 17 or 70 Filey Road. Their name was HEWSON or CARPENTER and the house name I think was Langdale. Could anyone local confirm that please. If the house is still there it should have the same name hopefully. Thank you in advance for your trouble. Regards Jim .

hi I have the 1861 census index for yorks in the course of preperation by the East yorks fam his socc. about 80% complete and already there are more than enough candidates for your ancestor. I think you will have to give her fathers name to identify is it from the marriage details. even then as there are a number of janes not living with their parents to make it straightforward. It might be better to look at the 1851 census but so long before they may not be anywhere near. Thompson and its variant names is in the top 20 of english surnames and those amonst the most difficult to trace kind regards John Ferguson ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeannine Labelle" <labelle7453@rogers.com> To: <ENG-NORTH-YORKS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 04, 2003 1:46 AM Subject: [N'Yorks] THOMPSON - Kirkbymoorside > Hello, > I was wondering if anyone has access to the 1851 and 1861 census for Kirkbymoorside, and would be able to do a lookup for me. > I am trying to find the parents and possible siblings of Jane THOMPSON. I have the following information for her. On Dec 11 1862 Jane THOMPSON gave birth to a daughter, Elizabeth. At this time she resided at Dale End, Kirkbymoorside, and would be about 19 years old. She was not married at this time. Jane THOMPSON eventually married John WRIGHT of Helmsley. > > Thank You, > Jeannine Labelle, > Canada > > > ==== ENG-NORTH-YORKS Mailing List ==== > Have you visited the *NEW* RootsWeb/Ancestry Message Boards yet? Take a > tour soon & learn how time-saving those "Gateway" messages are compared > to trying to find the *new* ones on your own. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > >

Hello, I was wondering if anyone has access to the 1851 and 1861 census for Kirkbymoorside, and would be able to do a lookup for me. I am trying to find the parents and possible siblings of Jane THOMPSON. I have the following information for her. On Dec 11 1862 Jane THOMPSON gave birth to a daughter, Elizabeth. At this time she resided at Dale End, Kirkbymoorside, and would be about 19 years old. She was not married at this time. Jane THOMPSON eventually married John WRIGHT of Helmsley. Thank You, Jeannine Labelle, Canada

Thanks John, Another lister has confirmed that the street has been demolished to make way for a shopping centre, including ASDA. Getting a photo of the shop/street is now probably out of the question - unless another lister can come to my rescue :~) Thanks, Bob Original Message: ----------------- From: john ferguson fergy@fergy.karoo.co.uk Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 22:53:33 +0100 To: bob.ellerton@virgin.net Subject: Re: [N'Yorks] Grocery shop in Eston, Middlesbrough Quite a lot of these streets were demolised in the 1980's As I recall but I know longer live in north yorks. suggest you e mail Redcar and cleveland council rates department and ask them john ferguson ----- Original Message ----- From: <bob.ellerton@virgin.net> To: <ENG-NORTH-YORKS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 1:38 PM Subject: [N'Yorks] Grocery shop in Eston, Middlesbrough > The 1890 Bulmer's Trade Directory for Middlesbrough showed a "Christopher > Ellerton, 35 Nelson Street, South Bank" as running a Grocery shop in Eston. > This is almost certainly my George Christopher Ellerton who was described > in the 1881 Census as a Grocer. > > Can any lister who lives in the area tell me more about this shop? > Does the address/shop still exist? > > TIA, > Bob (Cambridge) -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ .

I have a copy of the will of my 4xGt. grandfather Godfrey HIRST of Northallerton who wrote the willin July 1806 and died in February 1807. In the willGodfrey names his friend Mr. William BAYLEY-BACHELOR, physician of medicine of Northallerton, as one of the executors. I would like to know when this the doctor died, was it propr to 1816? If anyone else can tell me anything about this man then I can maybe tie up a loose end. Thankyou Regards Jenny DeAngelis. Spain.

Eston is not in Redcar district and the only family I can find is at ormsby though born eston kind regards john ferguson ----- Original Message ----- From: "j.wood" <j.wood7@ntlworld.com> To: <ENG-NORTH-YORKS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 1:19 PM Subject: Re: [N'Yorks] 1861 Census, Redcar > Hi Anola, > > Does the 1861 Redcar census cover Eston? > If so, I wonder if you would be kind enough to look up the name Shakeshaft. > There may even be some in Redcar as I belielve the Shakeshafts originated in > Coatham and Kirkleatham. > > Thanks. > Janet > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Anola <anola.borton@bigpond.com> > To: <ENG-NORTH-YORKS-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 12:30 AM > Subject: [N'Yorks] 1861 Census, Redcar > > > > Hi, > > I have the following film on loan and would like to offer look ups for > you. > > > > Regards, > > Anola Borton > > NSW, Australia. > > > > > > > > ==== ENG-NORTH-YORKS Mailing List ==== > > This List is dedicated to the North Riding, Yorkshire, England! If you > > have a problem, question, need direction or to report a virus, please > > contact Kathleen off-list at Administration@KathleensKorner.net. Thanks. > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > ==== ENG-NORTH-YORKS Mailing List ==== > Uh-Oh!!! <----- Missed or deleted a post that would put a crack in your > wall? Remember, day and night, the RootsWeb Archives are always there to > browse or search from http://www.rootsweb.com . > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > >

Hi Anola, would you please be able to check if there is a William Jones b. 1842, Brigstock, Northants. Father is Jonas Jones, wife is Mary Ann. Could be with either or both! He was an iron stone miner and travelled all around the north of England, so could be anywhere, I have searched alot of areas myself, but it is a long haul. Many thanks for your help and time. Dawn Spencer, Christchurch, N.Z. Anola wrote: > Hi, > I have the following film on loan and would like to offer look ups for you. > > Regards, > Anola Borton > NSW, Australia. > > ==== ENG-NORTH-YORKS Mailing List ==== > This List is dedicated to the North Riding, Yorkshire, England! If you > have a problem, question, need direction or to report a virus, please > contact Kathleen off-list at Administration@KathleensKorner.net. Thanks. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Hi Anola, Does the 1861 Redcar census cover Eston? If so, I wonder if you would be kind enough to look up the name Shakeshaft. There may even be some in Redcar as I belielve the Shakeshafts originated in Coatham and Kirkleatham. Thanks. Janet ----- Original Message ----- From: Anola <anola.borton@bigpond.com> To: <ENG-NORTH-YORKS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 12:30 AM Subject: [N'Yorks] 1861 Census, Redcar > Hi, > I have the following film on loan and would like to offer look ups for you. > > Regards, > Anola Borton > NSW, Australia. > > > > ==== ENG-NORTH-YORKS Mailing List ==== > This List is dedicated to the North Riding, Yorkshire, England! If you > have a problem, question, need direction or to report a virus, please > contact Kathleen off-list at Administration@KathleensKorner.net. Thanks. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

There are no LINSLEYs in Malton by the 1861 census. There is a Roger LINSLEY in Old Malton, widower, aged 76, agricultural laborer, birthplace Malton, Yks. Old Malton and (New)Malton are separate parishes, next to each other. Do you have the birth certificate for Francis LINSLEY which would include an address. Malton was a registration District and they could have lived in a hamlet nearby. Doreen Salt Spring Island Looking for: DAVISON at Old Malton and Wintringham Subject: [N'Yorks] Re: LINSLEY and GANNON SURNAMES > I have hit the proverbial brick wall. > > My grandfather, FRANCIS (FRANK) LINSLEY, was a coal merchant and toymaker in > Gurney Street, Darlington, in 1881. His wife was ANN GANNON. > > (so far, so good!) > > They married in 1872 in Darlington. Francis, who was born in MALTON, is 24 > years on his marriage cert, (but 36 years in 1881, making his year of birth > around 1844 to 1848) gave his address as North Road, Darlington, and his > father is also FRANCIS LINSLEY, a farmer. > > How many LINSLEYS in MALTON? And there's Old Malton and New Malton. What's > all that about? Are there any LINSLEYS out there? > > Now ANN GANNON's no better. She is 32 on the 1881 Census, (but 21 on her > marriage cert).JOHN GANNON, a labourer, > > is named as her father on the marriage certificate. > > I found JOHN GANNON (53 yrs) and his wife ELLEN (56 yrs) on the 1881 Census. > They were both born in County Mayo! They had at least three other children: > Thomas Gannon (1858/1859), John W Gannon (1862/1863) and Mary E Gannon > ((1871/1872). > > Dorothy Smart (nee Linsley) > Altrincham > Cheshire > > Researching: LINSLEY, GANNON, CANHAM, DEARING, SPINK, WRIGHT, CARRICK in and > around East and North Yorks and County Durham. > > > > > > ==== ENG-NORTH-YORKS Mailing List ==== > ----------> ALL CAPS or UPPER CASE Letters Permissible Use <---------- > When typing a surname? YES! Absolutely! A must! For general text? NO! > It's shouting, bad manners (Netiquette) and hard to find surnames. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

--part1_25.36aeda49.2bbafe11_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --part1_25.36aeda49.2bbafe11_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-path: <Pmc248@cs.com> From: Pmc248@cs.com Full-name: Pmc248 Message-ID: <6a.2f698231.2bbae483@cs.com> Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 07:48:03 EST Subject: Re: reply A real problem, HELP !!! To: scomar@bsc.net, SOUTH-AFRICA-L@rootsweb.com, SOUTH-AFRICA-IMMIGRANTS-BRITISH-L@rootsweb.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: CompuServe 2000 32-bit sub 107 Hello Margaret, Thankyou for the E mail. My Father's first wife was from England and known to him from childhood, their Father's had been in business together. The thought had been that possibly this was a child she had before they married, but I have a had researcher in London who has searched for any child with her Maiden Surname, which was CHEESEBROUGH, but he has not been able to find any registration of a child with that name for that Mother. Obviously if the child's surname had to be changed to RENNEY, he was not born to my Father in any marriage situation. It almost seems that the child had to be picked up immediatly, otherwise he surely would not have taken his very pregnant wife on such a trip. Although their twins were born aboard ship, their birth certificates list Middlesbrough, N. Yorks as their place of birth and no ship mentioned at all. Maybe that was the way it was done in those days, but it keeps me from looking through ships passenger records, if I can't find the Ships name. Very Frustrating !!! Thankyou, Pam [ RENNEY ] in Arizona. --part1_25.36aeda49.2bbafe11_boundary--

Hi, I have the following film on loan and would like to offer look ups for you. Regards, Anola Borton NSW, Australia.