If anyone has the 1861 or 1871 census for Easington near Guisborough, North Yorkshire I am looking for a Ralph Wren. I believe his wife was Sarah and they had a daughter, Jane Ann. Grateful for any information. Thanks Ken

The mailing lists at British-Genealogy.com have just added a new category of list, the One-Place Study list. I have become the list administrator of one of the first one for Yorkshire, for the village of Brompton by Northallerton, in the North Riding of Yorkshire. I have had an interest in Brompton since I started family history research about 18 months ago. My STAINTHORP ancestors had a farm in the village, Newstead Grange, from about the 1730's to 1899, and I started with an number of family documents about the farm, going back as far as 1805. My research has not just covered the family, but also the other families in the village, and the village in general. In the process of doing this I have built up a private mailing list of about 30 people who are also researching ancestors in the village or nearby. So it is a logical next step to set up a public mailing list for it. The obvious intention is to concentrate on the village, but each village does not exist in a vacuum, so I am happy for the list to cover matters in nearby villages and Northallerton. That is why I have posted this message to a couple of Durham mailing lists, as Brompton is only 10 miles or so from the old boundary of County Durham. A word of warning though - there are other Bromptons in Yorkshire - Brompton by Sawdon is near Scarborough, Brompton on Swale is 10 miles from 'my' Brompton, as is Patrick Brompton. It is easy to get confused, as I did a year ago, which is why I bought a book of photos of Brompton by Sawdon - and then spent days trying to fit the photos into what I knew of the village. To subscribe to this list, go to http://www.british-genealogy.com/mailman/listinfo/opc-nry-brompton-by-northallerton To look for other One-Place lists, go to http://www.british-genealogy.com/mailman/listinfo and scroll down to the lists whose names start "OPC" Richard Thomson, in Leeds, West Yorkshire Researching STAINTHORP, TUTIN, TOES and other names in Brompton by Northallerton, North Riding, and surrounding area, BRAMHAM, COLLIER, LACY, STAINTHORP in York, and THOMSON in York and Liverpool. BASSELT/BASSETT in Sandwich,Kent to 1830 and Sunderland, Co Durham 1830-1880 SMITH (CRAMPTON SMITH) Sunderland, Co Durham 1830 - 1940 ROWELL Penshaw, Offerton, Sunderland, Co Durham 1800 - 1900 SWAN Sunderland & Gateshead, Co Durham 1800 to 1950 ROWAN, Belfast, 1850 - present

BIRTHS On the 27th ult., at Pickering, the wife of Mr Thomas WOOD, of a daughter. On the 29th ult., at Norton, Mrs HOBSON, of a son. On the 27th ult., at Norton, Mrs SELLER, of a daughter. On the 3rd inst., at Mennithorpe, Mrs NIXON, of a daughter. MARRIAGES On the 2nd inst., at St. Mary's church, Scarbro', by the Rev. W. COOPER, Mr Stephen B. ROBSON, of Salton, to Mary, youngest daughter of the late Robt. THOMPSON, Esq., of Broughton, Malton. On the 29th ult., at the parish church, Seamer, by the Rev. J.R. INGE, William, eldest son of Mr James STOCKDALE, of Scarbro', to Margaret, youngest daughter of Mr Wm. LENG, farmer, Seamer. DEATHS On the 31st ult., at Malton, Elizabeth, wife of Mr Richd. GAGE, breadbaker, aged 60 years. On the 29th ult., at Malton, Mr Edward DAWSON, aged 84 years. On the 29th ult., at Knapton, Master MILNER, aged 16. On the 28th ult., at Malton, Mr Thos. HOWLAND, aged 78 years. On the 1st inst., at Scarbro', Mr Chas. BOAK, aged 24 years, formerly of Pickering. On the 2nd inst., at Malton, Mr George MONKMAN, aged 44 years. Andy Sefton Pocklington

Hi Michele, > The only Kirby Moorside baptism I have for a Margaret Jackson in the right > time period, is the following one taken from the parish register - > > 2 May 1804 > Margaret (born 22 April 1804) 2nd child and 2nd daughter of William Jackson > of Kirbymoorside, (son of John Jackson and Elizabeth nee Dobson of > Farndale). Mother, Ann (daughter of Mark Graystock and Ann nee Frank of > Farndale) > > Their first child also at Kirby Moorside is- > 7 July 1799 > Hannah (born 17 June 1799) 1st child of Wm. Jackson of Farndale, (son of > John Jackson of Farndale and Elizabeth nee Dobson.) Mother, Anne, (daughter > of Mark Graystock of Farndale) > > no other children for this family baptised at Kirby Moorside up to 1808 > (that's as far as I've looked in the records) > > so it would seem that my William and your Margaret are not siblings,- > perhaps cousins? > > If you need any other Jackson look-ups at Kirby Moorside, I've covered: > Baptisms 1704 - 1808 and 1843 -1851. Marriages 1699 - 1800 and Burials > 1700 - 1828. > Happy to share. Many many thanks for this information. It all seems to fit exactly - but I think I need to get a bit more proof first. But I will certainly keep it as a possible. Don't you just love the Kirkbymoorside registers from this time? - they help enormously. I have two Jane Teasdales born in this area at the same time - I nearly made the mistake of assuming they were both the same person - until I discovered they were from two (as yet unconnected) families. I don't want to make that mistake again. Best Wishes Karen __________________________________________________________________________ Join Freeserve http://www.freeserve.com/time/ Winner of the 2003 Internet Service Providers' Association awards for Best Unmetered ISP and Best Consumer Application.

I think you're doing a great job! Many thanks. Jane ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Sefton" <andy@andysefton.fsnet.co.uk> To: <ENG-NORTH-YORKS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2003 9:37 PM Subject: RE: [N'Yorks] Malton Messenger BMD's 22nd October 1864 > Richard is correct, the church is St. Mary's, Foulness, Essex. > > I deliberately did not put in a comma, as one was not in the original paper. > I have made a conscious effort to transcribe EXACTLY the syntax as it > appears in the newspaper. I am getting much better at it now (must be the > practice!) and even include the case for the place names as it appears in > the paper. The only thing I do away from the original is to capitalise the > surnames. I suppose the purists would take me to task on that, but I think > it is much easier to spot those surnames. Sometimes I have difficulty in > capitalising surnames. Should I capitalise McIntosh as MCINTOSH or > McINTOSH?. Sometimes it is difficult to spot the surname, as the person is > often christened with firstnames from the surnames of earlier generations. > Double barrelled surnames can also be missed. > > Andy Sefton > > -----Original Message----- > From: ANGAEL@aol.com [mailto:ANGAEL@aol.com] > Sent: 17 May 2003 14:34 > To: ENG-NORTH-YORKS-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [N'Yorks] Malton Messenger BMD's 22nd October 1864 > > > In a message dated 5/17/2003 5:07:02 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > andy@andysefton.fsnet.co.uk writes: > > > On the 13th inst., at St. Mary's Foulness, Essex > > > Andy, am I misreading this? Or is this really the name of a church in > 1864? > If so, could anyone hazard a guess as to the reason or belief behind the > name? > > All this time I thought She was Immaculate...... > > Donna E. J. > > > ==== ENG-NORTH-YORKS Mailing List ==== > ~~ The List's GOLDEN RULE ~~ > Keep to genealogy, history, anything ancestors! Keep it clean & cool. > Treat others as you want them to treat you...Positively *NO* selling! > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go > to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > ==== ENG-NORTH-YORKS Mailing List ==== > ROLL CALLS? Not permitted unless instituted by the List Admin. But post > your interests and areas of search often. New members join every day. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

About 35 years ago, there was a long public inquiry into possible sites for a third London airport. Foulness Island was one of the potential sites, so just imagine flying into the UK via Foulness Airport ! I remember it as a very flat, barren, muddy, island on the coast of Essex, separated from the mainland by muddy creeks. I've sailed in those creeks, and ended up in the mud. It lives up to it's name! Richard Thomson ----- Original Message ----- From: <ANGAEL@aol.com> To: <ENG-NORTH-YORKS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2003 2:33 PM Subject: Re: [N'Yorks] Malton Messenger BMD's 22nd October 1864 > In a message dated 5/17/2003 5:07:02 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > andy@andysefton.fsnet.co.uk writes: > > > On the 13th inst., at St. Mary's Foulness, Essex > > > Andy, am I misreading this? Or is this really the name of a church in > 1864? > If so, could anyone hazard a guess as to the reason or belief behind the > name? > > All this time I thought She was Immaculate...... > > Donna E. J. > > ______________________________

****Thank you for this film number - I shall order it this week. Much appreciated, Ruth > The LDS OPR film for Kirkby Moorside is #0990901; it had some pleasant > surprises, 3 generations in a few of the birth/christening entries

Michelle, Thank you for that info. Can you tell me if you obtained the BMD's from a film of the LDS's as I was looking for an appropriate one to order and it came up as having nothing at all for Kirkbymoorside? Ruth I've covered: Baptisms 1704 - 1808 and 1843 -1851. Marriages 1699 - 1800 and Burials > 1700 - 1828. > Happy to share. > > Regards, > Michele > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "karen" <karen@milkhillcottage.fsnet.co.uk> > To: <ENG-NORTH-YORKS-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2003 11:34 AM > Subject: Re: Re: [N'Yorks] JACKSON > > > > And further to that Michele is there any chance that William Jackson is > brother to Margaret Jackson born abt 1803. William Jackson was witness to > the marriage of Margaret Jackson and John Teasdale. Although this was at > Helmsley I know they also lived near Kirkbymoorside. > > > > ==== ENG-NORTH-YORKS Mailing List ==== > *** Tired of this LIST? Going on vacation, a business trip? *** > Send an email with one word, UNSUBSCRIBE, in the Subject and Message > area to: ENG-NORTH-YORKS-L-request@rootsweb.com. Digest? "L" into "D". > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Richard is correct, the church is St. Mary's, Foulness, Essex. I deliberately did not put in a comma, as one was not in the original paper. I have made a conscious effort to transcribe EXACTLY the syntax as it appears in the newspaper. I am getting much better at it now (must be the practice!) and even include the case for the place names as it appears in the paper. The only thing I do away from the original is to capitalise the surnames. I suppose the purists would take me to task on that, but I think it is much easier to spot those surnames. Sometimes I have difficulty in capitalising surnames. Should I capitalise McIntosh as MCINTOSH or McINTOSH?. Sometimes it is difficult to spot the surname, as the person is often christened with firstnames from the surnames of earlier generations. Double barrelled surnames can also be missed. Andy Sefton -----Original Message----- From: ANGAEL@aol.com [mailto:ANGAEL@aol.com] Sent: 17 May 2003 14:34 To: ENG-NORTH-YORKS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [N'Yorks] Malton Messenger BMD's 22nd October 1864 In a message dated 5/17/2003 5:07:02 AM Eastern Daylight Time, andy@andysefton.fsnet.co.uk writes: > On the 13th inst., at St. Mary's Foulness, Essex Andy, am I misreading this? Or is this really the name of a church in 1864? If so, could anyone hazard a guess as to the reason or belief behind the name? All this time I thought She was Immaculate...... Donna E. J. ==== ENG-NORTH-YORKS Mailing List ==== ~~ The List's GOLDEN RULE ~~ Keep to genealogy, history, anything ancestors! Keep it clean & cool. Treat others as you want them to treat you...Positively *NO* selling! ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Found at Wentworth House, Meltham WRY in 1891 Census, RG12/3555 fo140-1 p4-5: William Palliser, 37, Tailor, b South Kilvington Isabella Palliser, 39, b Tow Law DUR John D Palliser, 13, Cotton Doffer, b Middlesbrough Margaret J Palliser, 12, Cotton Doffer, b South Kilvington Ruth E Palliser, 10, b South Kilvington Richard Palliser, 8, b Meltham Harry Palliser, 5, b Meltham Mary I Palliser, 3, b Meltham Thomas Beal, adopted son, 11, b Malton Hope this helps someone. Arthur Kennedy akpak@waitrose.com http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~arthurk/

Karen, I do so wish I could give you an answer. It would be great if we could link all these people together. Regards, Ruth > And further to that Michele is there any chance that William Jackson is brother to Margaret Jackson born abt 1803. William Jackson was witness to the marriage of Margaret Jackson and John Teasdale. Although this was at Helmsley I know they also lived near Kirkbymoorside.

Hi Karen and Ruth, The only Kirby Moorside baptism I have for a Margaret Jackson in the right time period, is the following one taken from the parish register - 2 May 1804 Margaret (born 22 April 1804) 2nd child and 2nd daughter of William Jackson of Kirbymoorside, (son of John Jackson and Elizabeth nee Dobson of Farndale). Mother, Ann (daughter of Mark Graystock and Ann nee Frank of Farndale) Their first child also at Kirby Moorside is- 7 July 1799 Hannah (born 17 June 1799) 1st child of Wm. Jackson of Farndale, (son of John Jackson of Farndale and Elizabeth nee Dobson.) Mother, Anne, (daughter of Mark Graystock of Farndale) no other children for this family baptised at Kirby Moorside up to 1808 (that's as far as I've looked in the records) so it would seem that my William and your Margaret are not siblings,- perhaps cousins? If you need any other Jackson look-ups at Kirby Moorside, I've covered: Baptisms 1704 - 1808 and 1843 -1851. Marriages 1699 - 1800 and Burials 1700 - 1828. Happy to share. Regards, Michele ----- Original Message ----- From: "karen" <karen@milkhillcottage.fsnet.co.uk> To: <ENG-NORTH-YORKS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2003 11:34 AM Subject: Re: Re: [N'Yorks] JACKSON > And further to that Michele is there any chance that William Jackson is brother to Margaret Jackson born abt 1803. William Jackson was witness to the marriage of Margaret Jackson and John Teasdale. Although this was at Helmsley I know they also lived near Kirkbymoorside.

Hi Michele and Ruth, > Hi Ruth, > Any chance this could be your Robert? > Taken from Kirby Moorside parish register baptisms > > 27 November 1800 > Robert (born 21 November 1800) 4th child and 3rd son of John Jackson of > Kirbymoorside, (son of William Jackson of Kirby Moorside and Eliz. nee > Moon.) Mother, Jane, (daughter of Thomas Sturdy of Kirby Moorside and > Elizabeth nee Gray) > > Robert is brother to my husband's gt.gt.grandfather William Jackson, born > 1803. > And further to that Michele is there any chance that William Jackson is brother to Margaret Jackson born abt 1803. William Jackson was witness to the marriage of Margaret Jackson and John Teasdale. Although this was at Helmsley I know they also lived near Kirkbymoorside. I know its quite a long shot. Best Wishes Karen __________________________________________________________________________ Join Freeserve http://www.freeserve.com/time/ Winner of the 2003 Internet Service Providers' Association awards for Best Unmetered ISP and Best Consumer Application.

BIRTHS On the 23rd inst., at Malton, Mrs WALL, Stainton's yard, of a son. On the 23rd inst., at Norton, Mrs WILSON, Parliament-street, of a daughter. On the 25th inst., at Newburgh Park, Lady Julia WOMBWELL, of a daughter. On the 20th inst., at Middlesbro', the wife of Mr Frederick W. WANLASS, of a daughter. On the 21st inst., the wife of Mr Patrick McWILKIN, of a son. MARRIAGES On the 18th inst., at Kirkdale, by the Rev. Charles TUDOR, Mr Thos. BULMER, of Skiplam Rigg, to Mrs COOPER, grocer, of Wombleton. On the 26th inst., at Nunnington, by the Rev. Canon DIXON, of Helmsley, assisted by the Rev. A.W. WETHERALL, of Stonegrave, John NESS, Esq., of Helmsley, coroner for the North Riding of the County of York, and hon. surgeon to the 2nd battalion North York Rifle Volunteers, to Amy, eldest daughter of the Rev. H. COOPER, Nunnington. DEATHS On the 20th inst., at Sherburn, Mr Wm. RAINE, aged 44. On the 21st inst., at South Holme, after a few days' illness, Mr Robert Muzeen RUSSELL, third son of the late Mr James RUSSELL, merchant, of Malton, aged 31. On the 21st inst., at Nunnington, Mr Wm. PEACOCK, aged 29. On the 24th inst., at Malton, Mr Thomas WELLS, aged 87. On the 27th inst., at Norton, Hannah Anastasia, wife of Mr B. HALL, aged 24. On the 23rd at Broughton, Henry, son of Mr John RIDLEY, aged 2 years. On the 25th at Broughton, Mr Henry BOGG, schoolmaster, aged 24. On the 20th inst., at Middlesbro', Catherine Mc CRETON, aged 1 years. On the 21st inst., at Middlesbro', Mr G. KIRK, aged 34. On the 21st inst., at Middlesbro', Mr Jas. DIRKINS, aged 47. On the 20th inst., at Middlesbro', Thomas, son of Mr Thos. RENNISON, aged 8 months. On the 23rd inst., at Middlesbro', Mr J. CAMBELL, aged 75. Andy Sefton Pocklington

BIRTHS On the 15th inst., Mrs HUDSON, White Ground House, Norton, of a son. On the 16th inst., Mrs BRADLEY, Old Maltongate, of a son. On the 16th inst., Mrs DENNIS, Albert Terrace, Norton, of a daughter. On the 20th inst., Mrs SMITH, of Norton, of a son. MARRIAGES On the 11th inst., at Topcliffe, by the Rev. H. HAWKINS, John WATSON, Esq., of Sowerby Park, Thirsk, to Elling Johnstone BARKER, of Park House, Asenby, only daughter of the late Thomas BARKER, Esq. On the 13th inst., at St. Mary's Foulness, Essex, by the Rev. S.N. DALTON, rector, John Thomas WAY, Esq., to Mary, youngest daughter of the late Rev. James COOPER, M.A., vicar of Garton-on-the-Wolds. On the 15th inst., at St. Leonard's church, Malton, by the Rev. by the Rev. W.W. ELLIOT, Mr Wm. BRAND, of Norton, to Miss Annie GLOVER, of Malton. DEATHS In this edition is a full obituary to E.S. DONNER, Esq., of Scarbro'. Andy Sefton Pocklington

In a message dated 5/17/2003 5:07:02 AM Eastern Daylight Time, andy@andysefton.fsnet.co.uk writes: > On the 13th inst., at St. Mary's Foulness, Essex Andy, am I misreading this? Or is this really the name of a church in 1864? If so, could anyone hazard a guess as to the reason or belief behind the name? All this time I thought She was Immaculate...... Donna E. J.

Donna, The church is simply St. Mary's. Foulness in the name of the town where it is located in the county of Essex. Regards Richard -----Original Message----- From: ANGAEL@aol.com [mailto:ANGAEL@aol.com] Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2003 8:34 AM To: ENG-NORTH-YORKS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [N'Yorks] Malton Messenger BMD's 22nd October 1864 In a message dated 5/17/2003 5:07:02 AM Eastern Daylight Time, andy@andysefton.fsnet.co.uk writes: > On the 13th inst., at St. Mary's Foulness, Essex Andy, am I misreading this? Or is this really the name of a church in 1864? If so, could anyone hazard a guess as to the reason or belief behind the name? All this time I thought She was Immaculate...... Donna E. J. ==== ENG-NORTH-YORKS Mailing List ==== ~~ The List's GOLDEN RULE ~~ Keep to genealogy, history, anything ancestors! Keep it clean & cool. Treat others as you want them to treat you...Positively *NO* selling! ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.481 / Virus Database: 277 - Release Date: 5/13/2003 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.481 / Virus Database: 277 - Release Date: 5/13/2003

On the subject of spellings. I've recently been searching for an Ann Carser, (name from child's birth cert)but couldn't find her any where. I obtained a certificate for another of her children where she was shown as Ann Carr. I've come to the conclusion that when asked her maidene name she repiled "Ann Carr, sir" ! Jo

The LDS OPR film for Kirkby Moorside is #0990901; it had some pleasant surprises, 3 generations in a few of the birth/christening entries ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ruth Bowden" <ruthieb@bigpond.com> To: <ENG-NORTH-YORKS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2003 6:30 PM Subject: Re: [N'Yorks] Margaret JACKSON > > Michelle, > Thank you for that info. Can you tell me if you obtained the BMD's > from a film of the LDS's as I was looking for an appropriate one to order > and it came up as having nothing at all for Kirkbymoorside? > Ruth > > > I've covered: > Baptisms 1704 - 1808 and 1843 -1851. Marriages 1699 - 1800 and Burials > > 1700 - 1828. > > Happy to share. > > > > Regards, > > Michele > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "karen" <karen@milkhillcottage.fsnet.co.uk> > > To: <ENG-NORTH-YORKS-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2003 11:34 AM > > Subject: Re: Re: [N'Yorks] JACKSON > > > > > > > And further to that Michele is there any chance that William Jackson is > > brother to Margaret Jackson born abt 1803. William Jackson was witness to > > the marriage of Margaret Jackson and John Teasdale. Although this was at > > Helmsley I know they also lived near Kirkbymoorside. > > > > > > > > ==== ENG-NORTH-YORKS Mailing List ==== > > *** Tired of this LIST? Going on vacation, a business trip? *** > > Send an email with one word, UNSUBSCRIBE, in the Subject and Message > > area to: ENG-NORTH-YORKS-L-request@rootsweb.com. Digest? "L" into "D". > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > ==== ENG-NORTH-YORKS Mailing List ==== > Have you visited the *NEW* RootsWeb/Ancestry Message Boards yet? Take a > tour soon & learn how time-saving those "Gateway" messages are compared > to trying to find the *new* ones on your own. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

****Thank you for this information. I shall keep it and see if I can fit it in with my Jackson family. Much appreciated. Ruth > Jackson family Kirkby moorside area. > Not to forget John Jackson R.A. 1778-1831, who married a second wife Matilda > Ward. > John was a famous artist who by marring into the Ward family became part of > the very famous Williams school and family of artists. > see SBN 902028 41 3 > The Williams family of painters by Jan Reynolds published 1975. > > Jacksons work is in Lastingham Church and Leeds art gallery to name a few. > > William and Robert > > > > ==== ENG-NORTH-YORKS Mailing List ==== > ---> Some placed you don't want to miss!! > ~~ "Newbies' Guide: http://www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html ~~ > ~~ Genuki England: http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/ ~~ > ~~ UK Public Records Office: http://www.pro.gov.uk ~~ > ~~ UK Newspapers? http://dds.nl/~kidon/media-link/ukpapers.shtml ~~ > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >