Hello Janice, Thanks for the reminder, I had forgotten about that site. I will need to think carefully about purchasing anything, as my budget is of necessity a small one. However, to own certain resources can be a real advantage when we are not on the spot. Brenda's B & B will be high on my list of places to stay if and when we are able to make the trip. Regards Ailsa Petrie Janice Wood wrote: > > Hi Ailsa, > > Brenda Green has a huge collection of directories, and other books of > Yorkshire historical interest, in her yorkshireancestors.com library at > Ebberston, midway between Pickering and Scarborough in North Yorkshire. > Many trade directories and others are now available on CD, > www.yorkshireancestors.com for those who are not able to get there! > > Regards, > Janice Wood > www.btinternet.com/~jansfamily/ > in North Yorkshire > Researching: > BANKS, BEALL, BULMER, CALVERT, COCKERILL, FISHER, FOX, FOXTON, GARBUT, > HARRISON, HAWKINS, HOLYDAY, HURD, KIRK, LOWTHER, MATTISON, NAWTON, > PATTISON, PICKARD, PICKERING, POTTER, SCAIFE, SHOUT, SIMPSON, SKILBECK, > STONEHOUSE, THOMPSON, TRENHOLM(E), WARRINER, WEATHERILL, WEDGEWOOD, WILSON, > and WOOD. > > ==== ENG-NORTH-YORKS Mailing List ==== > Uh-Oh!!! <----- Missed or deleted a post that would put a crack in your > wall? Remember, day and night, the RootsWeb Archives are always there to > browse or search from http://www.rootsweb.com . > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 -- Hamilton New Zealand

Yes Karen, Laurence and I share a set of GGGgranparents Thomas Green and Jane Ward. Laurie was a great help too me. He was my first related contact. Good luck Sandie ----- Original Message ----- From: "karen" <karen@milkhillcottage.fsnet.co.uk> To: <ENG-NORTH-YORKS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 7:22 PM Subject: Re: [N'Yorks] Lund/Teasdale > Hi Sandie, > > > I have a James Lund TEASDALE m. to Sarah GREEN (daur of JamesGREEN and > > Hannah ) 27 May 1893, Kirkbymoorside. > > I have a few otherKirkbymoorside TEASDALE references if you are > > interested, but mine is the GREEN line. > > Many thanks for this. > > Then I believe we are related in a roundabout way. > > James Lund TEASDALE born abt 1863 to James Lund TEASDALE** and Mary > > James Lund TEASDALE** bn abt 1834 to Joseph TEASDALE and Hannah LUND. > > Joseph TEASDALE was brother to my GGG Grandfather George TEASDALE. > > If you haven't already seen it there is a bit more in the recent archives - and you will also be remotely related to Laurence who also posted some info. > > I have further info - once I unscrabble it all. > > Best Wishes > > Karen > > __________________________________________________________________________ > Join Freeserve http://www.freeserve.com/time/ > > Winner of the 2003 Internet Service Providers' Association awards for Best Unmetered ISP and Best Consumer Application. > > > > ==== ENG-NORTH-YORKS Mailing List ==== > ---> Some placed you don't want to miss!! > ~~ "Newbies' Guide: http://www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html ~~ > ~~ Genuki England: http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/ ~~ > ~~ UK Public Records Office: http://www.pro.gov.uk ~~ > ~~ UK Newspapers? http://dds.nl/~kidon/media-link/ukpapers.shtml ~~ > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Ailsa, You could try the Archive CD Book site of Rod Neep, he takes old books, many of them trade directories, and puts them onto CD. http://www.archivecdbooks.org/ Regards Jenny DeAngelis. Spain. Subject: [N'Yorks] Trade Directories et al > While trawling through the Genuki pages on Yorkshire, I was interested > to see that several trade directories had been published over the years > between census years. I know of Bulmer's in 1890 and Kelly's in 1879 & > 1905. Were there any others? > > I am particularly interested in the years 1861-1881 and the early 20th > century. Is anyone able to tell me what might be available and how I > would go about accessing the information, please?

Hi Karen, I have a James Lund TEASDALE m. to Sarah GREEN (daur of JamesGREEN and Hannah ) 27 May 1893, Kirkbymoorside. I have a few otherKirkbymoorside TEASDALE references if you are interested, but mine is the GREEN line. Sandie Ellicott .

Hi Ailsa, Ripon Historical Society has a series of indexes to the Baines 1822-3 Directory (covering all Yorkshire). These are available by wapentake in booklet form (5 for the North Riding, 8 for the West Riding) at either 2 or 3 GBP each, depending on size. The data is held on a searchable database, so an individualised name index is possible (price by negotiation, according to size); also CD format if preferred (not sure about price). For details contact <RHSinfo@aol.com> Best wishes, Roz

While trawling through the Genuki pages on Yorkshire, I was interested to see that several trade directories had been published over the years and I wondered if there was a source somewhere which would tell me what was available. It occurred to me that these publications and anything similar, could be a source of trying to trace the movements of some people between census years. I know of Bulmer's in 1890 and Kelly's in 1879 & 1905. Were there any others? I am particularly interested in the years 1861-1881 and the early 20th century. Is anyone able to tell me what might be available and how I would go about accessing the information, please? Any help is much appreciated. Regards Ailsa Petrie -- Hamilton New Zealand

Thanks Steve, Found a couple of other's to order as well. regards Nancy >From: ENG-NORTH-YORKS-D-request@rootsweb.com >Reply-To: ENG-NORTH-YORKS-L@rootsweb.com >To: ENG-NORTH-YORKS-D@rootsweb.com >Subject: ENG-NORTH-YORKS-D Digest V03 #127 >Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2003 00:00:40 -0600 > ><< message2.txt >> ><< message4.txt >> ><< message6.txt >> ><< message8.txt >> ><< message10.txt >> ><< message12.txt >> ><< message14.txt >> ><< message16.txt >> _________________________________________________________________ Get mobile Hotmail. Go to http://ninemsn.com.au/mobilecentral/signup.asp

Hi Ailsa, Brenda Green has a huge collection of directories, and other books of Yorkshire historical interest, in her yorkshireancestors.com library at Ebberston, midway between Pickering and Scarborough in North Yorkshire. Many trade directories and others are now available on CD, www.yorkshireancestors.com for those who are not able to get there! Regards, Janice Wood www.btinternet.com/~jansfamily/ in North Yorkshire Researching: BANKS, BEALL, BULMER, CALVERT, COCKERILL, FISHER, FOX, FOXTON, GARBUT, HARRISON, HAWKINS, HOLYDAY, HURD, KIRK, LOWTHER, MATTISON, NAWTON, PATTISON, PICKARD, PICKERING, POTTER, SCAIFE, SHOUT, SIMPSON, SKILBECK, STONEHOUSE, THOMPSON, TRENHOLM(E), WARRINER, WEATHERILL, WEDGEWOOD, WILSON, and WOOD.

Looking for the graves of Thomas and Mary Wilkinson nee Pybus, last known to have been in their 60's and living in Welbury in 1891 census. Thomas was born in Skelton and Mary was born in Liverton. I would be most grateful if someone could confirm this is their burial site and, even better, transcribe the stone if it is indeed in Welbury (St. Leonard's, I think) cemetery. --Tom Wilkinson

Hello, Would someone please be able to tell me if there are any M.I's for Yarm. Thanks Nancy _________________________________________________________________ ninemsn Extra Storage is now available. 30MB of storage on ninemsn Groups - great for sharing photos and documents. Go to http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/home&pgmarket=en-au

Nancy The Cleveland Family History Society will sell you a copy - to see their list of publications go to http://website.lineone.net/~pjoiner/cfhs/pubsinde.html Richard Thomson, in Leeds, West Yorkshire Researching STAINTHORP, TUTIN, TOES and other names in Brompton by Northallerton, North Riding, and surrounding area, BRAMHAM, COLLIER, LACY, STAINTHORP in York, and THOMSON in York and Liverpool. BASSELT/BASSETT in Sandwich,Kent to 1830 and Sunderland, Co Durham 1830-1880 SMITH (CRAMPTON SMITH) Sunderland, Co Durham 1830 - 1940 ROWELL Penshaw, Offerton, Sunderland, Co Durham 1800 - 1900 SWAN Sunderland & Gateshead, Co Durham 1800 to 1950 ROWAN, Belfast, 1850 - present ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nancy McAdie" <ndmcadie@hotmail.com> To: <ENG-NORTH-YORKS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2003 1:35 AM Subject: [N'Yorks] monumental inscriptions > Hello, > Would someone please be able to tell me if there are any M.I's for Yarm. > Thanks > Nancy

On Sun, 01 Jun 2003 10:35:53 +1000, Nancy wrote: >Hello, >Would someone please be able to tell me if there are any M.I's for Yarm. >Thanks >Nancy > Nancy According to the National Index of Parish Registers, they have been recorded and are at the North Yorks County Records Office. They have also been made available for purchase by Cleveland FHS at cost of GBP5.40 for purchasers in the UK - it's obviously a fairly substantial churchyard. See http://website.lineone.net/~pjoiner/cfhs/pubsinde.html Also available at the Society of Genealogists. Regards Steve

Was horrified to read an item in Friday's "Darlington & Stockton Times" (p.13) entitled "Stones for the picking", inviting "anyone wo wants stones for rock gardens or walling" to collect them free of charge from Leyburn cemetery, as part of "tidying up" the cemetery. In the process, apparently, "many stones have been revealed and need to be removed". This is the project of three named women councillors, one of whom is quoted as saying: "Anyone who has a project which needs some stone should go down to the cemetery and help themselves". Surely these stones are not gravestones or memorials? What on earth is being done in the name of tidiness? Does anyone locally have any further information about this? Best wishes, Roz

have a look at this web site <A HREF="http://www.historicaldirectories.org/HistDir/HTML/counties.htm">Digital Library of Historical Directories - Counties</A> quite a few trade directories covered Alison and Richard WILSON why not visit our web site http://www.tribalpages.com/tribes?userid=ally

I have evidence of the birth year of my GGfather. The year is further backed up the 1851, 1881, 1891 and 1901 census. In every census his age shows an increase of 10 years so he obviously knew his correct age, this is until he got married in 1886 where according to his marriage certificate he became three years younger. In my experience marriage ages you rather than makes you younger. Can anybody think of a reason why his age on the marriage certificate should be 39 rather than the correct age of 42, I guess this could be a mistake but it looks out of character as all census reports show what I believe to be his correct age. Ken

I have read the recent messages regarding the Teasdales of Kirbymoorside with interest. My family of Teasdale lived in the Masham, East Witton, and Middleham areas, but in the late eighteenth century William and Mary (nee Smith) Teasdale left Middleham with their children to live in Kirbymoorside. The family were all very involved in coal mining at the time (with some farming). Many of the more recent Teasdale's in the Kirbymoorside area are descended from this couple, but there are other Teasdales in the area who do not. I have pieced together my information from various census, IGI, and some PR's. I intend to try to discover more at Northallerton Record Office this summer. I would love to make contact with any other descendents of the family, as I grew up thinking I had a very rare surname. > Ragards > Angela John nee Teasdale

Hi Folks, Below please find the list of additions and updates to the Genuki Yorkshire site for the past 4 weeks. Tana Willis-Johnson has kindly donated her collected copies of church photographs, mainly for the Halifax area (and mainly taken by Chris Rothery). I list below her photographs which are not from the immediate Halifax area, and you will find on the Genuki Halifax parish page the list of the churches for Halifax town and the townships nearby - even these I have had to split on to separate pages as there are so many of them! There are quite a few of these yet to be dealt with. I have also added nearly a megabyte of data for Sheffield as you will see below. Best wishes, Colin Hinson In the village of Blunham in Bedfordshire U.K. Webmaster for the Genuki Yorkshire pages: http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ Rare Books on CD: http://www.blunham.demon.co.uk/CDroms/ Baine's & Bulmers directories, History of Craven, Heywood/Northowram, National gazetteer of G.B & Ireland, Whelan's York & NRY Hunter's Hallamshire (Sheffield), Yorkshire: Past and Present Poulson's Holderness, Turner's Brighouse, etc etc >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Places in brackets are the relevant (ancient) parishes. Unless otherwise specified, the churches are C of E. Don't forget the surnames interest list for Yorkshire: http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/YKSlist/ -------------------------------------- Tana Willis-Johnson Church Photographs: WRY: Almondbury Meltham RC (Almondbury) Meltham ex-Methodist (Almondbury) Bailiff Bridge Grangemoor Primitive Methodist (Kirkheaton) Heckmondwike Upper Independent (Birstall) Staincliffe Christ Church (Batley) Upper Hopton (Mirfield) Briestfield Wesleyan (Thornhill) Dewsbury Salem Methodist Dewsbury URC Dewsbury Baptist Flockton (Thornhill) Flockton Methodist (Thornhill) Flockton Zion Independent(Thornhill) Thornhill Methodist Thornhill Primitive Methodist Thornhill Lees Wes. Methodist (Thornhill) Thornhill Lees Holy Innocents (Thornhill) Thornhill Lees Prim. Methodist (Thornhill) Thornhill Edge Good Shepherd (Thornhill) Thornhill Edge Particular Baptist (Thornhill) -------------------------------------- Sandra Welburn: War Memorial transcriptions: Ainsty: Appleton Roebuck ERY: Aldbrough NRY: Ainderby Steeple WRY: Baldby (Doncaster) Barkston Ash (Sherburn in Elmet) -------------------------------------- Bill Henderson: Church Photographs: WRY: Kirk Bramwith Knaresborough Holy Trinity Morley (Batley) Churwell (Batley) Churwell Roman Catholic (Batley) Horsforth (Guiseley) Rawdon Trinity Church Guiseley Roman Catholic Menston Roman Catholic (Otley) -------------------------------------- Andrew Sefton: NRY: Transcription of Malton Messenger BMDs for 1864 (on main Yorksire page under "Newspapers" -------------------------------------- Janice Wood: NRY: Photograph: Kirkdale St Gregory photo of a drawing from a watercolour. -------------------------------------- Colin Hinson: All the above added to data base and formatted for the web. Transcriptions: WRY: Sheffield: Whites 1852 Directory of Sheffield extracts: A description of Sheffield for 1852, including list of churches etc. (see under "Descriptions and Travel") An alphabetical list of Trades and professsions - over 10,000 names. (see under "Directories")

Information taken from film 2046687 Register of Burials 1963 Jan 18th Cecil Valentine JEFFERSON 55yrs 109 Trouthbeck Road Jan 19th Roland THOMPSON 62yrs 27 Charlotte Street Jan 19th Mabel BAKER 83yrs 11 South Terrace * Jan 21st Royce Clifford SNOW 51yrs 14 Ex(e/c)ter Street Jan 21st Allen or Alton Webster GROVES 72yrs 35 Charlotte Street Jan 22nd Caroline SKAIFE 69yrs 103 Broadway West Jan 28th Harry Da(w/iv)es PICKNETT 62yrs 194 High Street 1963 Feb 8th Alice OVERTON 77yrs 31 Lord Street Feb 9th Betty GRAY 39yrs 14 Broadway West Feb 13th Gerald Stewart DUCKWORTH 61yrs 1 Lilac Grove Feb 16th William Robert BAKER 80yrs 71 Borough Road * Feb 18th Theresa O'CONNOR 63yrs 12 Teal Street Feb 18th James BARNES 87yrs 66 Park Avenue Feb 19th Florence HANDLEY 82yrs 18 Durham Road Feb 19th Merle Crosby TAYLOR 75yrs 47 Westfield Avenue Feb 19th Edith Annie DIGGORY 67yrs 19 Partridge Street Feb 21st Robert HEGGIE 69yrs 6 Station Road Feb 23rd Emanuel BAKER 82yrs 4 South Terrace * Mar 2nd Janet Isdal MOORHEAD 73yrs 42 Cypress Road 1968 Mar 2nd William Leighton MORTON 72yrs 31 Durham Road Mar 7th Tony DURDAN 6yrs 10 Kent Close Mar 18th Thomas Henry SNAITH 62yrs 1 Bro(n)dgate Road Mar 22nd Charles LEVELL 76yrs 21 Newton Road Mar 25th Florence Louisa DONALDSON 84yrs 81 Ings Road Mar 27th Emily RAPER 85yrs 6 Ellerby Close Mar28th Sarah BAKER 80yrs 4 South Terrace * Mar 29th William Francis HENSHAW 76yrs 4 Bamburgh Close Mar 30th Rita Margaret STEWARD 49yrs 17 Cypress Road * claimed as belonging to my Baker family line This is the last of these postings of burials in Redcar Cemetery taken from film 2046687. Hope that I have been able to help somebody. Rose Morrison in Qld Australia

Martin A search on Google for "Charles Dickens Malton" brought up plenty of references. The following few paragraphs are taken from a longer article on the "This is York" website, and dated May 2002 - see http://www.thisisyork.co.uk/york/factfile/YORK_FACTFILE_HISTORYFEATURESOLD39 .html Keeping Dickens alive by Chris Titley CHARLES Dickens was in York on Friday. Cedric Charles Dickens that is, great grandson of the commanding Victorian writer. He was taking up a long-standing invitation by the Dickens Fellowship, York branch. ..... His visit, and the 100th anniversary this year of the founding of the first Dickens Fellowship, makes this a timely moment to recall the visits to North Yorkshire of the great novelist. Charles Dickens toured Britain to give readings from his books. But his connections with Yorkshire goes deeper than that. His brother, Alfred Lamert Dickens, was a railway engineer whose York employers had an office on Micklegate. He lived in Malton. So too did one of Charles Dickens' great friends, Charles Smithson. He was a lawyer whose Easthorpe Hall home lay outside the market town. While staying here, Dickens wrote several chapters of Martin Chuzzlewit. Perhaps his most famous Yorkshire connection lies in Nicholas Nickleby. Even as a young boy he had been fascinated by the tales of Yorkshire Schools - boarding institutions for unwanted boys. A court case in 1836 brought the matter to his attention again. It revealed the terrible conditions and brutal punishments suffered by the pupils. He decided to investigate. The following year he visited Bowes Academy at Greta Bridge, near Barnard Castle, run by William Shaw. What he saw inspired the infamous Dotheboys Hall in Nicholas Nickleby. Another site picked up by Google mentioned that Smithson ran the Malton Messenger (unfortunately it couldn't find the website, so I have no more info from that). It is not surprising that his brother should work in York as a railway engineer, as York was one of the major centres for railway development. (And railway engineer in this context will have the British meaning of someone who designs, builds or maintains the railways, not the driver of a train as in the USA !) Greta Bridge is on the northern border of Yorkshire and Barnard Castle is just the other side of the border, in County Durham. We exchanged e-mails recently about the SAWDON name, and the village of Brompton by Sawdon. You didn't mention the link to WINSPEAR - this is a name that occurs in Brompton by Northallerton, and I know 2 people with that name in their family tree. I'll send you their e--mail addresses off-list. Richard Thomson, in Leeds, West Yorkshire Researching STAINTHORP, TUTIN, TOES and other names in Brompton by Northallerton, North Riding, and surrounding area, BRAMHAM, COLLIER, LACY, STAINTHORP in York, and THOMSON in York and Liverpool. BASSELT/BASSETT in Sandwich,Kent to 1830 and Sunderland, Co Durham 1830-1880 SMITH (CRAMPTON SMITH) Sunderland, Co Durham 1830 - 1940 ROWELL Penshaw, Offerton, Sunderland, Co Durham 1800 - 1900 SWAN Sunderland & Gateshead, Co Durham 1800 to 1950 ROWAN, Belfast, 1850 - present

Information taken from film 2046687 Register of Burials Redcar CemeteryYks. 1950 Jan 7th Mark BAKER 72yrs 21 South Terrace * Jan 9th Minnie APPLETON 70yrs 7 Spellman Grove Jan 10th Kathleen PHILLIPS 46yrs 45 Buckingham Road Jan 10th Ellen Amelia CARR 87yrs 2 Westfield Avenue Jan 11th Jean COLLINS 4 days 32 Abercrombie Road Jan 11th Faith STOREY 78yrs 1 McClean Avenue Jan 11th Jane Picknett UPTON 78yrs 5 Amber Street 1950 Jan 12th Glyn NARMAN 3 days 144 Corporation Road Jan 13th Annie BAVIN 67yrs 83 Broadway West Jan 13 th Henry BAKER 79yrs 21 South Terrace * Jan 13th Owen Tudor JAMES 66yrs 121 Ings Road Jan 14th Margaret Ellen MOONEY 53yrs 11 Tweed Road Jan 14th John Michael Banks JAMES 71 yrs 36 Oak Road Jan 18th Herbert Henry HARRISON 53yrs 5 Borough Road Jan 18th John William BROWN 78 yrs 22 Southampton Street Jan 19th Louisa HOWE 86yrs 6 Alma Parade 1951 Dec 3rd Charles Robert GREEN 71 yrs 116 Coatham Road * Dec 6th John HARDY 75yrs {7 Turner Street 4 King Street} Dec 8th Thomas DOBSON 80yrs 45 Lord Street Dec 10th James ALLEN 75yrs 6 The Larches Dec 10th Joseph COOKE 80yrs {Somerset Cottage Esplanade} Dec 11th William ATKINSON 46yrs 5 King Street Dec 11th Mary Annie GATENBY 71yrs 165 Laburnum Road * claimed as belonging to the Baker family tree