Hi, My GGGGreat grandfather was John Thompson who was born in 1824 in Leeds and moved to Harrogate to start his own business. He had a shop in James Street, John Thompson & Sons. It was a furniture upholsters, Carpets and funeral directors. I have a photo of some of the members of staff who would of worked there. Does any of this ring any bells with any body? Please contact me. -- Regards Lorraine

Hello list, My interests are Florrie BELL, Stockton on tees . and Norman LINTON of Norton. I believe Norman was associated with Norton cricket club and also something to do with the first tricycle produced. Any information about either items appreciated. Regards Joyce in Australia

Hello list, I would love to hear from anyone who has the following in their tree; George Watson DUFFILL mar Elizabeth Dale 20 Jan 1834 Son William Dale DUFFILL born 1839 mar Emma??? from Whitby daughters Elizabeth and Mary Jane William (gt gr father) was manager of gas works in Stokesley where all their children were born. Regards Joyce in Australia

Hello Maurice,, I have spoken to a contact with Middleton in Teesdale contacts and Joseph Collinson & Mary Tinkler. Tis a pity he is not on the net yet. He has a friend who has more info, but again not on the net. Let me know the detail re Joseph Collinson & Mary Tinkler and I will pass the info on to him and get back to you next week. But it will be snail Mail Jack in Notts

Hello List Looking into the following ancestors, their families and descendants: Jonathan BARKER,Middleton in Teesdale,DUR(MIT),abt.1760 to 1825 -married M-I-T1785 to Nancy COULTHARD ,born abt.1710 Garrigill,CUL, John BARTON,Elwick Hall,DUR1808 ?married (2nd)Elizabeth SNAITH Billingham,DUR1837 Joseph COLLINSON,Weardale & MIT & Romaldkirk, YKS,abt.1701 to 1763 married Mary TINKLER ,M1T 1731 Henry COULTHARD born Knarsdale,NBLfather of Nancy married Tamar COWPER 1756 Thomas COWPER,abt.1710 Garrigill,CUL married Tamar HODGSON 1732 Betty DAWSON,abt.1755,Stanhope,DUR married Thomas COLLINSON ,son of Joseph,1778 Maria FAWCETT abt 1800 Harrogate,YKS married Thomas TAYLOR ,Stranton,DUR village Blacksmith, All Saints Stranton,DUR 1819 Elizabeth HEDRINGTON/HETHERINGTON,1649 Croglin,CUL married Robert HODGSON Robert HODGSON,1644 Croglin,CUL married Elizabeth HEDRINGTON Henry NORRIS d.before 1881 Stranton,DUR married Esther GRAHAM(born abt 1825 Whitby,YKS) in West Hartlepool abt 1858 Elizabeth JEFFERSON abt 1765 Stranton,DUR married Richard TAYLOR 1786 Robert PATTISON, Christened Appleton Wiske,YKS abt.1838 married Martha BARTON ,daughter of John abt 1861 Mary Ann PEARCE Duloe,CON,1836 married 1st John Thomas TRUSCOTT in CON,2nd John YEWS in Wingate,DUR Elizabeth SNAITH married John BARTON 1837in Billingham DUR Richard TAYLOR abt.1700 Stranton,DUR married Margaret and their TAYLOR descendants Mary TINKLER abt 1710 to 1775,MIT married Joseph COLLINSON John Thomas TRUSCOTT born CON died bef.1881 in Wingate,DUR Yours Aye Maurice TAYLOR in Surrey , England

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_/n6oqb0ONcdYIvld3O65iw) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline Hi Lynn & Kevin: I have Carr 1783 c: Skelton by Guisborough in York, later marrying at Leeds. He raised a family at Rotherhithe, London. Any possible connection? Heather from Canada --Boundary_(ID_/n6oqb0ONcdYIvld3O65iw) Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-Type: text/plain ENG-NORTH-YORKS-D Digest Volume 03 : Issue 194 Today's Topics: #1 Re: [N'Yorks] Look-up offer ["Jenny DeAngelis" <jennyda@terra.e] #2 Willerton and Carr families [<kevynne@xtra.co.nz>] #3 Re: [N'Yorks] Look-up offer [ZALAE@aol.com] Administrivia: To unsubscribe, send an email containing one word, UNSUBSCRIBE, in the Subject Line and Message area, to: ENG-NORTH-YORKS-D-request@rootsweb.com. NO other text! Still need help? Contact the List Admin at: ENG-NORTH-YORKS-admin@rootsweb.com. ______________________________ --Boundary_(ID_/n6oqb0ONcdYIvld3O65iw) Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Message: #1 Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 21:06:01 +0200 From: "Jenny DeAngelis" <jennyda@terra.es> To: ENG-NORTH-YORKS-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <003401c36d97$c7f0c440$020010ac@jenny> Subject: Re: [N'Yorks] Look-up offer Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Virginia, Looking at the LDS films you would be looking at the original parish register entry written at the time that the event took place, and not at an indexed item from that register or an LDS patron submission. Whatever entries you find on the familysearch website should "always" be checked against the original of the entry and not taken as being correct in every detail. Every time an original register etc is indexed or transcribed it is open to errors being made and so the only way to be sure that the details you have found in an index is to check it against the original source. You should also treat patron submissions with a lot of caution as these do not always bear out against the original register. They are often entries created by the members of the LDS church for the churches own ordinances and bear no relation to actual events. You will also often find that the film of the original has more detail than that given in any index you might have used so it is doubly worth ordering the LDS films of the parish registers concerned. Who knows you may also find other entries on the film that were not in the index? Regards Jenny DeAngelis. Spain. > Hello folks.. forgive me if this is a silly question, but what is the > benefit of looking at the reels as opposed to familysearch.org. I assume > there is more information on the reels than there is on the website.. but > what exactly? > > Thanks, > Virginia > ______________________________ --Boundary_(ID_/n6oqb0ONcdYIvld3O65iw) Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Message: #2 Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 7:16:18 +1200 From: <kevynne@xtra.co.nz> To: <ENG-NORTH-YORKS-D@rootsweb.com> Message-Id: <20030828191618.LTAI1154.web2-rme.xtra.co.nz@[127.0.0.1]> Subject: Willerton and Carr families Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am interested in hearing from anyone who may be researching CARR and WILLERTON families around the Pickering area. Thanks Lynne and Kevin ______________________________ --Boundary_(ID_/n6oqb0ONcdYIvld3O65iw) Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Message: #3 Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 15:30:12 EDT From: ZALAE@aol.com To: ENG-NORTH-YORKS-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <20.17ef1189.2c7fb244@aol.com> Subject: Re: [N'Yorks] Look-up offer Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Jenny, you have said what I`ve beentelling folks at the LDS church for many years jack --Boundary_(ID_/n6oqb0ONcdYIvld3O65iw)--

I am interested in hearing from anyone who may be researching CARR and WILLERTON families around the Pickering area. Thanks Lynne and Kevin

Hi Virginia, Looking at the LDS films you would be looking at the original parish register entry written at the time that the event took place, and not at an indexed item from that register or an LDS patron submission. Whatever entries you find on the familysearch website should "always" be checked against the original of the entry and not taken as being correct in every detail. Every time an original register etc is indexed or transcribed it is open to errors being made and so the only way to be sure that the details you have found in an index is to check it against the original source. You should also treat patron submissions with a lot of caution as these do not always bear out against the original register. They are often entries created by the members of the LDS church for the churches own ordinances and bear no relation to actual events. You will also often find that the film of the original has more detail than that given in any index you might have used so it is doubly worth ordering the LDS films of the parish registers concerned. Who knows you may also find other entries on the film that were not in the index? Regards Jenny DeAngelis. Spain. > Hello folks.. forgive me if this is a silly question, but what is the > benefit of looking at the reels as opposed to familysearch.org. I assume > there is more information on the reels than there is on the website.. but > what exactly? > > Thanks, > Virginia >

Hello All, It would be greatly appreciated if anyone has any information on john PARTINGTON, who married Mary HUDSON, in Whitby 13 July 1835 they had the following children that i am aware of George, Jon, Chas, and Isabell thanking you all in advance George in Muston Yorkshire UK

Jenny, you have said what I`ve beentelling folks at the LDS church for many years jack

hello Annie , just a little note to say I would double check on the birth of Mary graham as I have Mary graham born15 sept 1861 in Hutton bushel her mother was Hannah graham and her father was not listed I believe it was high car farm her mother was born there 1841 but I can be wrong as this is from memory she was living in southcliff Scarborough at the time of her marriage to Joseph Moore in April 20 1881 and incidentally the witnesses were Ellen Moore and Ellen ward Mary graham signed her own name on her marriage cert thanking you George in muston ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ann Tomlinson" <annt51@cableone.net> To: <ENG-NORTH-YORKS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 11:13 PM Subject: [N'Yorks] GRAHAM > Thanks Belinda > I will keep your letter for future reference. Our Mary GRAHAM was b. 1861 in Whitby, and d. 1930 in Stockton. Her husband Joseph MOORE was b. 1855 in Whitby, and d. 1935 in Scarborough. Their children were: Robert, Albert, Joseph, Elijah, Hannah, Edward, Martha, Gladys, Dora, Harry and Margaret. Mary's mother was Hannah, but I don't know her father's first name. Your Rev. GRAHAM could possibly be a brother to her father? ....The time element would be right. > > Annie > > > Ann Pettijohn Tomlinson > annt51@cableone.net > > > ==== ENG-NORTH-YORKS Mailing List ==== > ----------> ALL CAPS or UPPER CASE Letters Permissible Use <---------- > When typing a surname? YES! Absolutely! A must! For general text? NO! > It's shouting, bad manners (Netiquette) and hard to find surnames. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Hello Anne, I see by your intrests posted recently that you have the surname PARKINGTON or PARTINGTON and also TOES/TOWES and that you are looking in the lythe area well john PARTINGTON married mary TOES in Easington near Guisborough 9th november 1813 thought this might be of intrest source info m040151 igi george moore muston filey

Hello Ann, Just to let you know that my SMALES family in Whitby (my maternal grandmother and her ancestors) have an Ann, daughter of Gideon SMALES and Maria Robinson WAKEFIELD who married a Rev Henry John GRAHAM in about 1845. I haven't researched them in detail but from the 1881 census, (when they were living in Pudsey) they had 7 children, Annie Maria, Marie Dyson, Clara L, Julia M, Hewley (? mis-transcribed) Smales, Ethel A and Katherine M. I could only find Hewley in the 1901 census - presumably the girls had married. he was a woollen manufacturer in the West Riding. Any connection to yours? Best wishes, Belinda Pascal, (Bristol UK) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ann Tomlinson" <annt51@cableone.net> To: <ENG-NORTH-YORKS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 6:04 PM Subject: [N'Yorks] Yorkshire interests > I'm interested in the following surnames: > > MOORE of Scarborough, Whitby, Lythe, Dent; > BANKS of Scarborough; > PARKINGTON or PARRINGTON of Dent: > TOWES > GRAHAM of Whitby > HAYSE of Burriston > > > > > Ann Pettijohn Tomlinson > annt51@cableone.net > > > ==== ENG-NORTH-YORKS Mailing List ==== > NO Virus warnings, seasonal greetings or private 'chit-chat' on this > list, okay! Other than that, anything pertaining to the lives and times > of those we seek goes, but MUST be kept within the *List's Golden Rule*. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > >

Jane ROBINSON was christened 20 Sept 1812 at Barton St Mary’s. Her father was Joseph Robinson. Jane married twice – first to Thomas DODDS by whom she had Henry Robinson DODDS, John DODDS and Sarah Thomasin DODDS and then to James BATEY by whom she had Miles, James and Isaac BATEY. Anyone looking at/for these people? John Lynch

Thanks Belinda I will keep your letter for future reference. Our Mary GRAHAM was b. 1861 in Whitby, and d. 1930 in Stockton. Her husband Joseph MOORE was b. 1855 in Whitby, and d. 1935 in Scarborough. Their children were: Robert, Albert, Joseph, Elijah, Hannah, Edward, Martha, Gladys, Dora, Harry and Margaret. Mary's mother was Hannah, but I don't know her father's first name. Your Rev. GRAHAM could possibly be a brother to her father? ....The time element would be right. Annie Ann Pettijohn Tomlinson annt51@cableone.net

Hi Renee, Thank you for your kind offer. Please will you have a look at two marriages for me - 1. Pickering - Jul/Aug/Sep 1859. Judith Beal and Thomas Miller. If I'm on the right track, Judith will be a widow. 2. St Michael, New Malton - 19 Dec 1836. Nathan Ward/Wade? and Joanna Spanton. The IGI shows him as Wade, but I'm almost sure he's the Ward I've been looking for. Any details from either will be very much appreciated. Regards, Michele ----- Original Message ----- From: "Renee O." <renee@pconline.com> To: <ENG-NORTH-YORKS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 6:30 AM Subject: Re: [N'Yorks] Yorkshire interests > Will do lookups from the following LDS films that I have on 4 week loan.

Hello folks.. forgive me if this is a silly question, but what is the benefit of looking at the reels as opposed to familysearch.org. I assume there is more information on the reels than there is on the website.. but what exactly? Thanks, Virginia Searching for Simon WARD in North Yorkshire b. 1755. > > Will do lookups from the following LDS films that I have on 4 week loan. > > > >==== ENG-NORTH-YORKS Mailing List ==== >This List is dedicated to the North Riding, Yorkshire, England! If you >have a problem, question, need direction or to report a virus, please >contact Kathleen off-list at Administration@KathleensKorner.net. Thanks. > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, >go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus

One more important thing the reels show is where the person is from. That can be a very important clue on where to look for them next. Here is how the microfilm can help piece together parts of a puzzle. I needed to look at the reels for my Henry Ward West. On his marriage certificate, it said that his father was George Ward, not George West. The mother's name was not listed. I found one Henry West, son of Frances West, no father listed, on the IGI, baptised in Pickering, where the 1851 census says he was born, that matched his age, in 1823. The index tells me nothing about why there is no father listed. It also looked like he could be part of another family of Robert West and Frances, as he fit nicely into the birth order for those children. Looking at the reels, I found the first child of Robert West and Frances born in 1815, on the same page as a child christened to George Ward and Mary. Quite a lucky find, maybe. The marriages for the year follow the baptisms, and the marriage was there for Robert West and Frances Hall about 10 months before the child was born. The following year, 1816 there is a burial for Mary Ward, 27 years old, possibly the wife of the George Ward I saw on the page with Robert and Frances. Since I was printing out all Ward and West listings, beginning with the first child born to Robert and Frances, I know that George did not remarry before Henry was born in 1823, of course, providing this is the same George. Henry's baptism reads like this: July 15th No 830 Henry son of Frances West Pickering (listed under abode) single woman. It also tells me the vicar that baptised him is the same one who baptised Robert and Frances children, up to this point, so if Frances lied and said she was single, the vicar went along with her lie. It is likely that Frances West is really a single woman. In December of the same year, George Ward of Pasmgwold(?) marries Ann Foster, of this parish, Licence with consent of those required, by the same vicar. I will need to find the marriage of George and Mary to see if both Georges are from the same place. You can't see the sequence of events as clearly looking at the IGI as you can looking at the film. One more brief example. My William Holmes is supposed to be born to Matthew Holmes and Rebecca Cooper June 18, 1820, according to his death certificate. Since it was in the USA, it only says he was born in England, as it does for his parents, so not much help. I find one Matthew Holmes and Rebecca Cooper on the IGI, but the marriage is nearly 3 years after William is born. I ordered this reel to see if I could learn anything more. Matthew Holmes of Towthorpe of the Parish of Wharram Percy and Rebecca Cooper of this parish were married in this church by licence... So, now I know that Matthew is from Towthorpe and that is a very small community. I may be able to find him, Rebecca and William in the census in that small town. Anyhow, I have information that the IGI did not provide that can help me prove or disprove this relationship. Anyhow, hope this helps some. Renee

This is for Virginia - You will find tons of names and death, birth and marriage information on familysearch.org, but if you want valid, documented information, it is important to find the original parish, county, etc. records and make photo copies when you find your own people. That way, you can prove to yourself and others that they really existed when and where other people have purported them to be, and that they are connected to you without question. Also, finding the original records will help you determine what people did for a living, where they lived, and many other small details that may not be included on the internet information you find. Documentation is as important in genealogy as "location" is in real estate! I've been doing research for close to 50 years, and this is my humble opinion. Annie in Idaho USA (visited England for the first time in April, and LOVE Yorkshire and it's folk) Ann Pettijohn Tomlinson annt51@cableone.net

Hi If you could possibly look up William BENTON and Charlotte SCOBY wedding in the Pickering film. They married around1861. Thank you Johanna -----Original Message----- From: Renee O. [mailto:renee@pconline.com] Sent: Wed 27/08/2003 06:30 To: ENG-NORTH-YORKS-L@rootsweb.com Cc: Subject: Re: [N'Yorks] Yorkshire interests Will do lookups from the following LDS films that I have on 4 week loan. Please be sure to check the IGI at www.familysearch.org to be sure your person is on one of these films because these are the only 4 I have on loan. Please include the IGI index for the person when you request the lookup so I have as much information as possible. I have these on loan for 3 more weeks but I can renew them if need be. 0990922 Bishop's transcripts, 1600-1873 Church of England. Parish Church of Pickering My batch number was C108751 0990907 Bishop's transcripts, 1601-1843 Church of England. St. Michael's Church (New Malton, Yorkshire) My batch number was M108511. The next one is Co. Durham, but I will include it here anyhow. 0091113 Parish register transcripts, 1781-1812 Church of England. St. John's Church (Stanhope) My batch was P000541. Please note that I am pretty sure that Parish register transcripts, 1595-1780 Church of England. St. Thomas' Church (Stanhope) is on a different microfilm and I only ordered the one listed above. If anyone has something they want from the earlier one, I will check to see if they are on the same reel. This one is Worchester, but again I will include it here. I am not on a Worchester list. If anyone here is, please pass this on to them. 0354334 Parish registers, 1538-1957 Church of England. Parish Church of Feckenham Please note that there are 5 reels. I have the reel 354334, which has Baptisms 1792-1837 Burials 1792-1848 Also, please be patient. I am still searching these reels for my own family and I do obit lookups too, so my time to do these lookups is limited. Unless you catch me on the day I am going to check for my family and I have time to lookup yours, don't expect to get these the next day. It could take me a couple of weeks. Renee (Holmes) O'Neal ==== ENG-NORTH-YORKS Mailing List ==== Uh-Oh!!! <----- Missed or deleted a post that would put a crack in your wall? Remember, day and night, the RootsWeb Archives are always there to browse or search from http://www.rootsweb.com . ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237