Heather, your emails are bouncing. Could you please contact me ASAP. Your Fenwicks are the same family as our visitors and they leave tomorrow. They are very excited about your message. Sorry to send this to the list. Brenda Ebberston, 6 miles East of Pickering, North Yorkshire Visit the Family History Research Library with accommodation Books for Genealogists on CD, 1901 Census Vouchers retailer. Visit our website: www.yorkshireancestors.com e-mail: brenda@yorkshireancestors.com

Hi Its a wile since I came on the list owing to ill health and moving house, so think its time I reposted names. TREWHITT WALLS BURTON All Appleton Wiske, Rounton, Bromton. Would love to hear from any one with a conection ( especialy Pat Wood if she is still on this list ) Cathy --------------------------------- Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo!Messenger

Hello, Sorry to interupt this list but I have lost contact with Tony Cheal from the Harrogate Historical Society. Does any one have the telephone number or address? -- Regards Lorraine

Hello all Someone was researching the name GRAHAM on one of the lists in the last couple of days in North Yorkshire, I think in the Pickering to Scarborough area. I accidentally deleted it. We have some people staying here from Oregon who are researching CROSS/ GRAHAM/BELL & FENWICK families from Brompton by Sawdon. They would love to make contact with any living relatives while they are here. If this is of interest to anyone please contact me. They are here until Thursday kind regards Brenda Ebberston, 6 miles East of Pickering, North Yorkshire Visit the Family History Research Library with accommodation Books for Genealogists on CD, 1901 Census Vouchers retailer. Visit our website: www.yorkshireancestors.com e-mail: brenda@yorkshireancestors.com

Thanks Mark, the further back you go, the population really get small and the names stand out in family groups, even if you have to allow a little latitude for name changes and variations. I have not knowingly come across those names, but will look up the files. The Wills index in the Borthwick Institute York is a great starting point and in some of the large wills of Vicars etc you almost get a whos who of York and the villages. The 1400s and 1500s wills are however quite annoying as the people leave there goods to Thomas, William etc but never say where Thomas and William lives!! in one case I find the Vicar of Kirkby upon Wharf who died in 1540 leaving his goods including a great suit of armour to his family some 40 miles away in the north of Yorkshire. only the detailed names etc tell you that it is the same family. Just to give an example from a large 1460s will of Chaplain Henry Cattall of St Martin cum Gregory Church, Micklegate, York, we have. JOHN WRIGHT a fishmonger, JOHN BURTON a Rector, WILLIAM HANCOK a vicar at Lodyngton, WILLIAM THOMSON , JOHN MARCHE, JOHN PARKE, JOHN HAMERTON, THOMAS THORP, HENRY ARCHER, GEORGE HUETT, JOHN NARE, JOHN YOMAN, ROBERT WISTOWE, WILLIAM GRINLAY, JOHN USWORTH---all chaplains, monks or vicars, etc etc.. Will keep an eye out for your family names. William

Dear Harry I remembered that you are always interested in any SAYERs. I found one for you in Croft on the l89l Census whilst at the records office today. Just in case you don't have this one here it is: RGl2 4045 Fol. 54 p.20 (1891 Census) Standalone Farm, Croft Robert SAYER, 45, Farmer, Employer, b. Yorks, Romaldkirk Jane SAYER, 45, Wife, b. Yorks, Bowes Lilly M., 9, Scholar, b. Croft plus 2 servants next door at Vince (?) Moor there is a NEWCOMBE family. I noted that Robert NEWCOMBE came from Worsall so wondered whether there was a connection with your Worsall SAYERs! Robert NEWCOMBE, 54, Farmer, b. Yorks, Worsall Margaret NEWCOMBE, Wife, b. Yorks, Deighton John B. NEWCOMBE, Son, b. Sockburn Other 6 children were all born in Worsall. Regards Diane Johansen

Hello, Maybe I misunderstood your post, but I have been trying to locate on the Genuki Yorkshire site, the information you announced, 'Yorkshire Parish Registers'. I'd appreciate it if you could set me straight or point me in the right direction. Thanks, Virginia (Ward) Bergmann Researching Hants County surnames: WARD, MOSHER, CALDWELL, LOWTHERS, BERRY >Hi Folks, >I am very pleased to be able to announce that Colin Blanshard Withers has >donated the contents of his book "Yorkshire Parish Registers" to >Genuki. This is an extremely valuable addition to the Genuki Yorksire >web-site, as I'm sure any of you who have used the book will agree. My >thanks to Colin for this. > >Over the past weeks I have been doing various "clean up" jobs on the Genuki >Yorkshire site in order to make it easier for me to maintain. In addition >to this, I've written the software to split Colin's book data into the >various ancient parishes and to generate the relevant pages containing this >data. You will find links into the "YPR" data from under the heading >"Church Records" in each Ancient parish page on the Genuki Yorkshire >site. The addition of these page brings the total for the Genuki >Yorkshire site to over 12,000, so if you are new to the Genuki Yorkshire >site, please take the time to have a look at the various pages concerning >"Important Information", defintions of terms etc. linked to from the top of >the main Genuki Yorkshire page, as this should make your navigation of the >site a lot easier. > >As this message goes out, I am in the process of uploading all the pages >for the YPR data, but I don't have control over the Wakefield area pages >which Angela Petyt maintains. She will no doubt update the links in her >pages in the near future. > >In addition to the above there are a few updates to the pages too - see >below my signature. I've no doubt missed some, so my apologies to those >who submitted the information if this is the case. > >Best wishes, >Colin Hinson > >In the village of Blunham in Bedfordshire U.K. >Webmaster for the Genuki Yorkshire pages: >http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ >Rare Books on CD: http://www.blunham.demon.co.uk/CDroms/ >Yorkshire Genealogist, Harrogate Records, Todmorden area, >Baine's, Bulmers & Whites directories, Heywood/Northowram, >Histories: Craven, York & NRY, Yorkshire, Holderness, Brighouse >Halifax, Hunter's Hallamshire (Sheffield), Hull > > >Places in brackets are the relevant (ancient) parishes. >Unless otherwise specified, the churches are C of E. > >Don't forget the surnames interest list for Yorkshire: >http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/YKSlist/ > >-------------------------------------- >Bill Henderson >Church Photographs: >WRY: >Burley St Matthias (Leeds) >Stainburn (Kirkby Overblow) > >-------------------------------------- >Sandra Welburn: >War Memorial transcriptions: >ERY: >Helperthorpe >Hollym > >NRY: >Helmsley > >WRY: >Harthill >Hexthorpe > >-------------------------------------- >Phil Draper: >Church Photographs: >WRY: >Kirkburton >-------------------------------------- >Alan Longbottom - transcriptions: >WRY: >Arksey: Arksey with Bentley - the school >-------------------------------------- > >Colin Hinson: >All the above added to data base and formatted for the web. > >Added links to Bridlington.net from Bridlington parish page. >Corrected confusion with Arbourthorne Community church and centre. > > > > >==== ENG-NORTH-YORKS Mailing List ==== >---> Some placed you don't want to miss!! > ~~ "Newbies' Guide: http://www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html ~~ > ~~ Genuki England: http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/ ~~ > ~~ UK Public Records Office: http://www.pro.gov.uk ~~ > ~~ UK Newspapers? http://dds.nl/~kidon/media-link/ukpapers.shtml ~~ > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, >go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

It is time for me to post my interests again. all currently in the Scarborough area. and now some in Scalby, and Ingleby Greenhow. I just found another new name. Margaret Coulthard b. Scalby 1793 d.1883 New. Hannah HANCOCK nee COULTHARD, b Falsgrave. 1825 also Brothers Robert COULTHARD b.Falsgrave 1826 Samual COULTHARD b. Falsgrave 1836 Robert and Robert's son Robert COULTHARD b. Ingleby Geenhow 1868 M. Mary b.1870 are found in the 1901 census. I would dearly love to track down the decendents of this family. All are my GGfather John COULTHARD family he left behind in Scarborough when he move to Canada in 1869. I can find them also listed in the Bulmers directory for Scarborough in 1890 I need some later directories. any clues? cheers Marv interests. COULTHARD,GIBBONS,BURRELL,HANCOCK,KIRBY

I wish I were researching prior to 1500, William, but I haven't been able to make it quite that far back. I have a William BEWLAY, who was probably born in about 1580, place unknown, and who married Elizabeth DUNINGTON on 27 November 1608 at Holy Trinity Micklegate in York. There were at least two sons, Willam BEWLAY and Thomas BEWLAY, and one daughter, Margaret BEWLAY. There may also have been three sisters, Agnes BEWLAY, who married Robert FAWCETT on 30 January 1598 at Holy Trinity Micklegate; Jane BEWLAY, who married Thomas STEED or Leonard STEAD on 16 October 1610 at Holy Trinity Micklegate; and Margaret BEWLAY, who married John KNAGGS on 15 February 1613 at York. John Knaggs may have been related to one Alice Maud Stevens HOLLIDAY. I have nothing about Elizabeth DUNINGTON, although it is tempting to put her origins in the village of Dunnington, which lies about four miles to the east of York on the present A166. Do you have any links to any of the above? A. Mark Robinson London ----- Original Message ----- From: <Cattellsearch@aol.com> To: <ENG-NORTH-YORKS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2003 7:18 PM Subject: [N'Yorks] long long ago York > Is anyone researching family in and around York 1272- 1500 AD ? > would love to know if we could assist each other. > William > > > ==== ENG-NORTH-YORKS Mailing List ==== > *** Tired of this LIST? Going on vacation, a business trip? *** > Send an email with one word, UNSUBSCRIBE, in the Subject and Message > area to: ENG-NORTH-YORKS-L-request@rootsweb.com. Digest? "L" into "D". > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Hello all, Yet another Act of Gen - erosity! (Pardon the pun - Genealogical Generosity) The City of York & District Family History Society are pleased to announce that Conrad Plowman has kindly donated his index to "the lists in York Reference Library of prisoners brought to trial at York Assizes for the period 1785-1851" http://www.yorkfamilyhistory.org.uk This is a list of over 8,000 names. Pre-July 1800, ages were not given, and after this time, place of origin was generally not given. There are occasional gaps. The records at the Library give quite a lot of detail and, in most cases, there are also the results of the trials. We hope that, at some later time, some of the results may be posted on our website. Meanwhile, we are sorry but we cannot offer to do look-ups, as all our volunteers are active elsewhere. However, if anyone has reasonable access to York Library and would like to volunteer, please contact me. Regards, Janice Wood Projects Coordinator City of York & District FHS http://www.yorkfamilyhistory.org.uk

Is anyone researching family in and around York 1272- 1500 AD ? would love to know if we could assist each other. William

Would Adam Buckfast who contacted me a couple of days ago please contact me again please as his emails seem to be bouncing. Rhonda ( australia ) rhondaanddave@bigpond.com

Hi To all. If anyone has sent me an email in the last 48 hours could I please ask if they could send it again as our server has been having problems and we have lost two days emails. thank you. Rhonda (Australia) rhondaanddave@bigpond.com

Hi Lola, Make a search using google or one of the other search engines for POWs or Prisoners of War you should get results that will help you find out more that way. My father was a POW in WWII of the German but was held in a camp in Poland, my sister found other children of other POWs who had been in the same camp as my father by searching the internet via google. I don't have the URLs of the sites they used and I think they no longer correspond with the people they contacted. My sister did however find out quite a bit about the camp, the inspections by the Red Cross which were carried out, all about the work camps that our dad was sent to and lots of information. I think there was a mailing list or forum attached to that site whre they corresponded with the other descendants of POWs, Whether there will be so much for WWI I don't know but I imagine there will be some useful information out there it just needs finding. The best way is to search the internet but check out the sources of anythingyou do find, not all that you read on the net is based on what really took place. Be Wary! You could also Imperial War Museum at Lambeth London holds displays now and then on both world wars and they must have information too. Make a search to see if they have a website which could details the kind of thing they have for WWI. Good Luck Jenny DeAngelis. Spain. > Hi Listers, > > Making an enquiry regarding records for POW's of WW1. In Germany, my > grandfather was interned in a camp where they worked in a salt mine. Any ideas where > I could find out any more info???

Joyce For your grandfather's service record, you should get in touch with the Ministry of Defence Veteran's Agency. They can provide a service record, free of charge. See http://www.veteransagency.mod.uk/servicerecs/servrecs.htm and http://www.veteransagency.mod.uk/servicerecs/army.htm which has the address to write to However, they will only provide the record to the next of kin. When I applied for the records for my father and mother, I wrote letters and got my father to sign them (my mother having died some years previously). The letters also said "please send the record to my son", and they were sent to me. Where the soldier and his wife have both died, it must be the legal next-of-kin who applies. So if you are a grandchild, and there is still a child alive, I think your parent, uncle or aunt would need to apply on your behalf. The website shows what sort of information they require, and they accept that most people will not have full information. In my parents case I was able to give service numbers which makes the job easier. The service is only available for people who joined the army after 1920 - but you mention his service in WW2, so that should be OK. Be warned, you'll get a lot of very boring pieces of paper, some of them more than once. There must have been 50 A4 sheets in my father's wartime record. Richard Thomson

HI Joyce, I tried to send an off list reply to your off list message to me but it bounced back, many Australian servers do bounce my mails, my servers fault not yours, so I am replying via the list. Perhaps you could write to the MoD and ask about obtaining your grandfather's army record, explaining that you don't have his number. They may have a reserch service they can tell you about, but it will be very expensive, the copy of my father's record which only covers 2 A4 pages was expensive so be prepared for a large bill if the MoD can research your grandfather's case but they will tell you how much per hour they charge if they have such a service. Keep your eye open in amongst old photos and letters written during WWII just in case there are any from him or to him that were saved from the hands of his son. Perhaps even photos of his parents sent to him at that time would likely have his army number on the back, often these seem to be post card side portraits. You only need to find that number and you are away, you alredy know his regiment so that is part of the battle but the all important number is really what you need. Are there no other family members, older sons/daughters other grandchildren, who might have old photos or letters of their father/mother or to and from his parents and himself even? What a crime to have destroyed it all. The Imperial War Museum at Lambeth London might have information on the Royal Engineers as a regiment but if the MoD that hold the records of service records of the 3 services. If as you say he was a Sergeant or higher rank then that might make the task a little bit easier to find him in some way but it would still be very difficult if not impossible without his number. The MoD can be written to at this address. Ministry of Defence, CS(RM)2b. Bourne Avenue, Hayes, Middlesex UB3 1RF England. Good Luck and I hope this helps a little bit. regards Jenny DeAngelis. Spain. >>>>> Many thanks for your reply. Unfortunately there is nothing on the photo. It is A4 size but no identifying names either. Also after grandma's and Joe's deaths their younger son threw everything on the tip. I can hear all genealogists screaming! <<<<

Hi Listers, Making an enquiry regarding records for POW's of WW1. In Germany, my grandfather was interned in a camp where they worked in a salt mine. Any ideas where I could find out any more info??? Thanking your in anticipation, Lola Husband Fremantle Western Australia

The photo doesn't happen to have a number on the back that could be your grandfather's army number does it? if you have that number then you can write to the Ministry of Defence to ask if they can supply a copy of his army record. Have a look on the back, if it was a photo that he had sent home to his family then it may have his number. This is how we found my father's army number to begin with on the back of a photo sent to him by my mother during WWII when he was a prisonr of war held in Poland. I have a copy of my father's record which is is a useful piece of information. It tells of when he was returned from Dunkirk in 1940 and also when he was missing in 1942 and then tells that he was a POW and the date of his repatriation in 1945 and return to the UK right through to when he was de-mobbed. It also gives a description of him, eye colour, complexion, weight, height etc., all taken from his enlistment details. Because my father was a signalman he got moved around to differnt units and each time he was attached to a fresh unit it is noted too. Have a good look through any papers and photos that you might have from that period and see if you can find any kind of number his army record if you can get a copy of it might tell you quite a bit about this part of your grandfather's life. Regards Jenny DeAngelis. Spain. > I have a picture of army officers and sergeants, I think is of the Royal Engineers regiment. > > My grandfather is one of them. Please does anyone know how to find out about the regiment and the enlisted men of WW2. > > Grandfather lived in Stockton on Tees, would the regiment be based near there.?

You can also find the post code by going to the directory enquiries site which gives name and address as well as phone numbers, provided you have the surname and at least an initial for the first name and a town. Go to http://www.bt.com/index.jsp you don't need to log in or register etc., just click on the Dirctory Enquiries link near the bottom of the page and fill in the small form with waht details you have, you don't need to fill in every box. Regards Jenny > Thank you for your reply to my request. We don't have such postcodes > here in New Zealand Street number and name and town suffices, although I > am aware that some places do require them to be used. > > I shall have a look at the site you suggest and see what I can find, > otherwise I'll take the chance and write to the address I have been > given and hope.

Hi Folks, I am very pleased to be able to announce that Colin Blanshard Withers has donated the contents of his book "Yorkshire Parish Registers" to Genuki. This is an extremely valuable addition to the Genuki Yorksire web-site, as I'm sure any of you who have used the book will agree. My thanks to Colin for this. Over the past weeks I have been doing various "clean up" jobs on the Genuki Yorkshire site in order to make it easier for me to maintain. In addition to this, I've written the software to split Colin's book data into the various ancient parishes and to generate the relevant pages containing this data. You will find links into the "YPR" data from under the heading "Church Records" in each Ancient parish page on the Genuki Yorkshire site. The addition of these page brings the total for the Genuki Yorkshire site to over 12,000, so if you are new to the Genuki Yorkshire site, please take the time to have a look at the various pages concerning "Important Information", defintions of terms etc. linked to from the top of the main Genuki Yorkshire page, as this should make your navigation of the site a lot easier. As this message goes out, I am in the process of uploading all the pages for the YPR data, but I don't have control over the Wakefield area pages which Angela Petyt maintains. She will no doubt update the links in her pages in the near future. In addition to the above there are a few updates to the pages too - see below my signature. I've no doubt missed some, so my apologies to those who submitted the information if this is the case. Best wishes, Colin Hinson In the village of Blunham in Bedfordshire U.K. Webmaster for the Genuki Yorkshire pages: http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ Rare Books on CD: http://www.blunham.demon.co.uk/CDroms/ Yorkshire Genealogist, Harrogate Records, Todmorden area, Baine's, Bulmers & Whites directories, Heywood/Northowram, Histories: Craven, York & NRY, Yorkshire, Holderness, Brighouse Halifax, Hunter's Hallamshire (Sheffield), Hull Places in brackets are the relevant (ancient) parishes. Unless otherwise specified, the churches are C of E. Don't forget the surnames interest list for Yorkshire: http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/YKSlist/ -------------------------------------- Bill Henderson Church Photographs: WRY: Burley St Matthias (Leeds) Stainburn (Kirkby Overblow) -------------------------------------- Sandra Welburn: War Memorial transcriptions: ERY: Helperthorpe Hollym NRY: Helmsley WRY: Harthill Hexthorpe -------------------------------------- Phil Draper: Church Photographs: WRY: Kirkburton -------------------------------------- Alan Longbottom - transcriptions: WRY: Arksey: Arksey with Bentley - the school -------------------------------------- Colin Hinson: All the above added to data base and formatted for the web. Added links to Bridlington.net from Bridlington parish page. Corrected confusion with Arbourthorne Community church and centre.