Hi there Anyone researching family of THOMPSON , a family of fellmongers, skinners and tanners in Richmond. They lived at Cornforth Hill. Two William Thompsons were Mayors of Richmond in early 1800's. The family also had lands in the vicinity at Ravensworth, Gayles, Catskins, Hudswell, Hurgill, and Sandeck. Kind regards Dave Mitchell Cape Town South Africa

This may be of some help but at least it is a JACKSON. and Kirkby Moorside JOHN JACKSON R.A. was a famous artist. 1778 - 1831. The first of four children of Ann and John Jackson who was a Tailor in Kirkbymoorside. Ann Jackson's brother was one of the first Methodist preachers. Jackson Married James Ward's daughter Matilda who was a Famous artist's Daughter. John Jackson was put up for the Presidency of the Royal Academy. Jackson was survived by his wife and four of the ten children. Jacksons work is in a lot of major galleries and locally Castle Howard and Leeds art gallery. A copy of a religeous work is hung in Lastingham church near kirkbymoorside. Matilda is all part of the large and famous Williams and Ward group of artists. inc Boddington, E C Williams, Sidney Percy, Alfred Williams, George Morland James Ward RA , Henry Chalon etc etc a big artist family. Kirkbymoorside Yes but N Yorks Coal Miners - No. Hope this may bive some kirkbymoorside orientation Rob

In message <[email protected]>, [email protected] writes >Good morning listers! > >In the 1841 census an occupation is given for a William Sayer, aged 60, in >the return for Yarm (east side) (HO107/1259 Folio 15) as `Relieving officer' >. Does anyone know what that means? > >Cheers > >laurel Sayer >Surrey > > Hi Laurel, This has to do with the administration of Poor relief under the Poor Laws The Poor Law was established by Acts of 1597 and 1601, and placed responsibility for the poor firmly in the hands of the parish. The 1601 Act ordered the appointment of overseers of the poor and their accounts often show payments made to the poor. Funds were derived mainly from the poor rate. From the 17th century parishes were allowed to have a workhouse. However, they could be quite expensive and so, under Gilbert's Act of 1782, some parishes were allowed to combine into unions to build a workhouse and give outdoor-relief. The New Poor Law The Poor Law Amendment Act 1834 created a Poor Law Commission for England & Wales. Responsibility for the relief of the poor was removed from the parish and given to a Union. At a local level, a Board of Guardians, chosen from local gentry, clergy and major tradesmen, controlled the administration of relief, both through the workhouses and outdoor relief. In turn they appointed permanent officers, mainly the RELIEVING OFFICER and workhouse master, to administer to the poor. They operated through a series of committees. The Board of Guardians remained in existence until 1930 when local authority Public Assistance Committees replaced them. Relieving officers were employed to receive applications for relief, and make payments when these had been approved by the Board. They also issued orders to admit people to workhouses. Thus they would have been a respected and trusted member of the community. As they handled money their appointment usually required two sureties. The relieving officer had to keep detailed accounts of all money and material given in out door relief. The account had to be authenticated by the clerk and approved by the Board of Guardians. He was expected to reside in the relief district to which he was appointed "devoting his full time to the performance of the duties of his office." This in effect meant that he could not have any other trade, profession or business. The Poor Law Commissioners were trying to prevent a situation arising where the relieving officer’s objectivity and partiality could be compromised by customers or clients attempting to "conciliate his favour." They believed that the relieving officer should possess the same qualities as a policeman, "he ought to possess firmness of mind, so as to be enabled in the discharge of his duty to resist intimidation from whatever quarter it might come." See more on Victorian Poor Law at <http://www.victorianweb.org/history/poorlaw/plaatext.html> Regards, -- Helen Oram

Hi Laurel I thought it was someone connected to administering parish relief, but I have just looked in the 'The Complete A-Z guide to Early occupations and the definition is given as The Relieving officer; the person who took charge of the poor or insane persons not otherwise cared for. kind regards Brenda Ebberston, (6 miles East of Pickering), North Yorkshire Visit the Family History Research Centre with Accommodation Books for Genealogists on CD, 1901 Census Vouchers retailer. Visit our website www.yorkshireancestors.com Email: [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 9:27 AM Subject: [NYorks] Census description > Good morning listers! > > In the 1841 census an occupation is given for a William Sayer, aged 60, in > the return for Yarm (east side) (HO107/1259 Folio 15) as `Relieving > officer' > . Does anyone know what that means? > > Cheers > > laurel Sayer > Surrey > > > ==== ENG-NORTH-YORKS Mailing List ==== > Check out other genealogy resources on the net at John Fuller's most > helpful site > http://www.rootsweb.com/~jfuller/gen_mail.html > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > >

Hi Laurel From http://rmhh.co.uk/occup/ (one of many sites found using "old occupations" as search words in google) Relieving Officer = Official of the Poor Law Union to whom the poor or retarded persons in the parish could apply for poor relief Best wishes Nivard Ovington, in Cornwall (UK) > Good morning listers! > > In the 1841 census an occupation is given for a William Sayer, aged 60, in > the return for Yarm (east side) (HO107/1259 Folio 15) as `Relieving > officer' > . Does anyone know what that means? > > Cheers > > laurel Sayer > Surrey

Good morning listers! In the 1841 census an occupation is given for a William Sayer, aged 60, in the return for Yarm (east side) (HO107/1259 Folio 15) as `Relieving officer' . Does anyone know what that means? Cheers laurel Sayer Surrey

Hi Laurel, I believe that a relieving officer had to do with either the workhouse or parish relief for the poor and was the man responsible for authorizing and or delivering the relief needed which could be food or money. Janet DeBunce ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 1:27 AM Subject: [NYorks] Census description > Good morning listers! > > In the 1841 census an occupation is given for a William Sayer, aged 60, in > the return for Yarm (east side) (HO107/1259 Folio 15) as `Relieving officer' > . Does anyone know what that means? > > Cheers > > laurel Sayer > Surrey > > > ==== ENG-NORTH-YORKS Mailing List ==== > Check out other genealogy resources on the net at John Fuller's most helpful site > http://www.rootsweb.com/~jfuller/gen_mail.html > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > >

Hello, I would be interested to hear from anyone researching the family of George CURRY and wife Rebecca nee TUNSTALL. Rebecca was the daughter of Thomas TUNSTALL and was born in Northallerton about 1835. I have her in all the censuses except 1841. She was a widow by 1901, and lived with her son William Thomas CURRY. He was a wine merchant's traveller in 1901. Other children of George & Rebecca were Mary Ann born about 1858 milliner 1881 John George about 1860 railway clerk 1881 John George married Annie and moved to Scarborough by 1901, where he was a private secretary. From a memorial in Northallerton churchyard George CURRY died April 24 1899 aged 63 years. Rebecca, his wife died August 19 1904 aged 69 years. I am connected to the TUNSTALL side of the family. Thank you, -- Helen Oram

More of the GIBSON family, another brother of my earlier posting. Arthur GIBSON, born 1853-1909, married Annie FOGGIN (1857-1901). At the census of 1891 & 1901 they were living at Brompton Lodge, occupation Farmer & Cattle Dealer. Their children: John William, 1876-1960; married Hilda Mary SLATER 1881-1941. Alfred, born 1881. Thomas, 1882-1901. Accidentally drowned. Fred, born 1884. Mary Alice, born 1886. Amy born 1887. Arthur, born 1888. Dora Annie born 1890. Jessie born 1891; married James Henry HOYLE in 1913. Ernest, born 1893; married May LUMLEY in 1917. Lawrence born 1894. Eliza May, born 1896. Harry, born 1898; married Gertrude May HORNER in 1924. This is all I know. If anyone has further information, I would be delighted. Regards Ailsa Petrie Hamilton New Zealand -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.11/219 - Release Date: 2/01/2006

Happy New Year to the List, At the beginning of the new year, I thought I would attempt to find more about a different branch of my family. Below are the names of three GIBSON brothers and what little I have discovered to date. If anyone has any knowledge of them, please make contact. The GIBSON family lived in various areas - Kirby Sigston, Osmotherley, Thimbleby, North Otterington, Northallerton & Brompton. William GIBSON married Ann Maria COATES in Northallerton in 1893. In 1913 he was the hotelkeeper at "The Fleece", Market Place, Northallerton. Anderson GIBSON married Ann Elizabeth CLAPHAM in 1886 in Kirby Sigston Church. Children - Alice M, born 1888; Stanley, born 1893; Marjorie, born 1900. George W. GIBSON married Emma ???? about 1890. Children - Gertrude, born abt 1893; George E, born abt 1898; Dorothy, born abt 1899. Many thanks for any help, will post more later. Regards Ailsa Petrie Hamilton New Zealand -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.11/219 - Release Date: 2/01/2006

Wishing to find descendants of Arthur George ELDER b 1880 Whitby d 1969 Whitby and Martha Ann nee MOULTON b 1882 Middlesborough d 1958 Whitby. Had 3 children Annie ELDER b 1905 Nth Ormesby d 1990 Whitby m to Albert Edwin NELLIS b 1898 Whitby d 1990 Whitby [last address Aislaby, Whitby] Mary ELDER b 1907 Nth Ormesby d 1976? m Derby to Alec LEECH d 1960/70 [no children] Frank ELDER b 1917 Ormesby d 1970 Whitby [information that he may never of married] As Mary and Frank Elder either didn't marry or have children themselves, the descendants would have to come through the Elder/Nellis family line. Have information that there was children to this couple and they still live in or around Whitby. Wishing to share photos of their parents and grandparents with them. Please contact me if you are related to the above Elder/Nellis family and wish a copy of these photos. Believe in returning photos into the family in which they belong. Regards Rose Morrison in Australia

Permission to post given by the list admin. Diana Boothe. The new look original "Sheffield Indexers Site" is up and running again. We already have the 1841 census index on line and City Road Cemetery burials are shortly to be uploaded along with many Parish Registers as they are indexed. http://sheff-indexers.thewholeshebang.org Elaine Pickard. for & on behalf of the original "Sheffield Indexers" -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.9/217 - Release Date: 12/30/2005

Yorkshire Parish Register Section, Yorkshire Archaeological Society Beginning in 1899, the YPRS has published 170 volumes of Printed Parish Registers (most are indexed). Some include all the PRs for a parish up to 1812 or 1837; others, particularly for large parishes, contain the entries for a shorter period and several volumes are required to cover the period to 1812. Most of the early volumes are long out-of-print in book form. These have been available on microfiche for some years but we are now producing some of the larger parishes on CD (several volumes on one disc), the latest of which is: "The Parish Registers of Rothwell, 1538 - 1812." Recent Parish Register publications include Masham 1599 - 1837, published in 3 volumes (Books); and CDs include Whitby, Darton and Sandal Magna. These and other publications on CD, books and microfiche are all available from: Publication Sales Yorkshire Archaeological Society 23 Clarendon Road LEEDS LS2 9NZ and online at http://www.yorkshireparishregisters.com Happy New Year! Mary [email protected]

Hi Dave, Thank you for replying to my request. Yes, I have searched the Darlington online registers, now I'm looking for ways to try and confirm something of what I've found there, before deciding whether or not to send for the formal registrations. My budget doesn't allow me to be too rash in what I buy, so I try to be as sure as I can that I'm on the right track of the right people. Regards Ailsa Dave Midcalf wrote: > Can't help with the electoral role but are you aware that you can search for > B/M/D online at Darlington's registry office site. The link is > http://www.darlington.gov.uk/Living/Register+Office/Register+Office.htm then > follow the link "search for certificates on line. > > > Dave............... > > www.midcalf.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.9/217 - Release Date: 30/12/2005

Good Morning, Happy New Year to everyone. The list has been so quiet recently - are people on holiday, or has family history lost favour? I would like to enquire about electoral rolls for the Darlington area, especially after 1926, when women were given the vote. I think that is the correct date. Can someone tell me where I might find electoral rolls from 1926 until the beginning of WWII? If anyone has access to such things and would be prepared to check two families for me, I would be very grateful. Many thanks Ailsa Petrie Hamilton New Zealand -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.9/217 - Release Date: 30/12/2005

HI Ailsa, ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ailsa Petrie" <[email protected]> > > Can someone tell me where I might find electoral rolls from 1926 until the > beginning of WWII? If anyone has access to such things and would be > prepared to check two families for me, I would be very grateful. > The electoral rolls are held by the Durham Record Office at County Hall, Durham. I have certainly viewed ones for Darlington there, though at a much earlier date. http://www.durham.gov.uk/recordoffice/usp.nsf/pws/durham+record+office+-+durham+record+office+homepage Cheers Karen

Your welcome, can certainly concur with looking after the budget ha-ha. May you and yours have the best new year ever. Dave............... www.midcalf.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: Ailsa Petrie [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 30 December 2005 21:41 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [NYorks] Electoral Rolls post 1926 Hi Dave, Thank you for replying to my request. Yes, I have searched the Darlington online registers, now I'm looking for ways to try and confirm something of what I've found there, before deciding whether or not to send for the formal registrations. My budget doesn't allow me to be too rash in what I buy, so I try to be as sure as I can that I'm on the right track of the right people. Regards Ailsa Dave Midcalf wrote: > Can't help with the electoral role but are you aware that you can > search for B/M/D online at Darlington's registry office site. The link > is > http://www.darlington.gov.uk/Living/Register+Office/Register+Office.htm then follow the link "search for certificates on line. > > > Dave............... > > www.midcalf.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.9/217 - Release Date: 30/12/2005 ==== ENG-NORTH-YORKS Mailing List ==== We have archives! Search for your ENG-NORTH-YORKS information here..... http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=ENG-NORTH-YORKS ============================== New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599 <http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&t argetid=5429> &targetid=5429 _____ avast! Antivirus <http://www.avast.com> : Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 0552-4, 30/12/2005 Tested on: 30/12/2005 21:48:35 avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2004 ALWIL Software.

Can't help with the electoral role but are you aware that you can search for B/M/D online at Darlington's registry office site. The link is http://www.darlington.gov.uk/Living/Register+Office/Register+Office.htm then follow the link "search for certificates on line. Dave............... www.midcalf.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: Ailsa Petrie [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 30 December 2005 20:34 To: [email protected] Subject: [NYorks] Electoral Rolls post 1926 Good Morning, Happy New Year to everyone. The list has been so quiet recently - are people on holiday, or has family history lost favour? I would like to enquire about electoral rolls for the Darlington area, especially after 1926, when women were given the vote. I think that is the correct date. Can someone tell me where I might find electoral rolls from 1926 until the beginning of WWII? If anyone has access to such things and would be prepared to check two families for me, I would be very grateful. Many thanks Ailsa Petrie Hamilton New Zealand -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.9/217 - Release Date: 30/12/2005 ==== ENG-NORTH-YORKS Mailing List ==== To unsubscribe from the ENG-NORTH-YORKS list, send the command "unsubscribe" to [email protected] (if in mail mode) or [email protected] (if in digest mode.) ============================== Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx _____ avast! Antivirus <http://www.avast.com> : Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 0552-4, 30/12/2005 Tested on: 30/12/2005 21:19:15 avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2004 ALWIL Software.

Hi, I have updated my site with another 20 or so probate transcripts, some of which relate to North Yorkshire area. Personal name index now holds about 1400 names Always interested to hear of anyone who has links to those mentioned on the site.... Dave King (Nuneaton UK) Genealogy website: http://mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/dhking/index.html Have you come across any stray PRISSICK/PRESSICK/PRESWICK records?

Thanks Dave, Hope you have a good one to. Judith Benson On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 13:26:37 -0000, you wrote: >My best wishes for Christmas & New Year to all members of this list. > >Dave Dixon