Can you verify whether or not its Coatham or Kirkleatham because these are two distinct areas around Redcar, Coatham being to the North East of the town and Kirkleatham the South west S Stones REDCAR Researching PARKIN (Sheffield area) THOMPSON (Leeds, Kirkstall, Stockton on Tees) DENNISTON (Leeds, Kirkstall, Stockton on Tees) DICKINSON (Sheff, Leeds) CHRISTON (Osmotherley, Stockton) MARSH (Stockton South, Thornaby) HEWISON (Stockton South, Thornaby)

Hi Mary, Thank you for all your Jackson information, it certainly ties in with ours, the common link being George and Mary Gray. What a pity there is a gap in the Kirkbymoorside PR's about the time of George's birth. Perhaps there are surviving BT's and we would have more luck with them. As you say there is a lot to digest, but I'm looking forward to piecing the puzzle together. The Jackson's are prolific and take a bit of sorting out. Might I ask for the details of your book on the Bilsdale land surveys. Is it still available and where would I be able to purchase a copy? Both my husband and I have so many twigs on our tree from that part of Yorkshire it would be nice to get hold of a copy. Thanks again. Best Wishes, Michele -----Original Message----- From: Mary Lamport [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 13 January 2006 16:48 To: [email protected] Subject: [NYorks] Jacksons &miners of Farndale <snip> It does seem that George Jackson and Mary Gray are a ‘common ancestor’ for both of us. ---I’ve also got a book of land surveys of Bilsdale, done for the Favershams of Duncombe Park, which record their tenants at various dates between 1637 and 1851.<snip>

Is anyone researching the BELL family of Coatham, Kirkleatham? I have a birth certificate ordered in error for: James BELL, son of Lettie Violet BELL (formerly CRANSTOUN) born 4th October l884 at l3 Vansittart Terrace, Coatham, Kirkleatham, father James BELL Schoolmaster. I have traced the family on the l89l Census as follows: RG12 4001 Fol. 33 page l3 7 Cleveland Terrace, Coatham James BELL, 29, Schoolmaster, b. Middlesbrough Violet BELL, Wife, 30, born Staithes James BELL, Son, 6, Scholar, b. Coatham John BELL, 4, b. North Ormesby James J. ROBERTSON, Nephew, l2, b. Harletpool Laura Ushman, Servant, l6, Gen. Servant, b. Suffolk Am happy to send a copy to anyone with links. Best wishes Diane Johansen Researching BELL, Yarm, E. Rounton, Crathorne

Hello Roz, Thank you for your kind offer, the family I am interested in are William and Mary ALLISON (various spellings) they were at Laverton on the 1851and 61 censuses and from BMD's their son Francis died there in 1852 and possibly their daughter Catherine married there in 1854. I am trying to find out if they died there or moved again after 61 although they were in their 60's by then. I know that they were in Leeds up until at least 1839 and have no idea where they were between then and 1851, so really anything you find will be a bonus. I had given up on this family until by chance I checked Ancestry in 1851 the other day, which was a pleasant suprise. Many thanks for your help. Regards Lorraine > Message du 14/01/06 14:02 > De : [email protected] > A : [email protected] > Copie à : > Objet : ENG-NORTH-YORKS-D Digest V06 #14 > > > Lorraine, > > Send me the details of your search (I missed the original query) and I'll > have a look in the transcribed PRs and MIs, which are published by Ripon > Historical Society. > > Best wishes, > Roz > > > > > ______________________________

. Hi Karen (and Carol), Passed your query to Clive and he replied as follows - ' Not too sure, but Spence's did have a shop on the High Street and were Tailors and Hatmakers. The last one died recently, Mary Green (nee Spence), she was about 87 and died last year, her father had the shop and grandfather before him. Before that the Spence's hailed from nearly Wensley, one marrying William Robinson, a Leyburn Clockmaker. Not sure where the house is, somewhere near Northallerton I would think if the photographer was Jennings of Northallerton, although there was a Jennings of Skipton photographer as well.' Regards, Michael Connolley www.gunnerside.info . Hi Carol, A very nice collection of photos. It may be a long shot but I have a book entitled Bygone Yorkshire - Wensleydale by Clive Torrens published in 1997, ISBN 0953137104 published by Drystone Publications, Jubilee House, Preston Under Scar, Leyburn, North Yorks, DL8 4AH. The book is primarily old picture postcards of the area, which I believe is the authors interest. However the author if he could be contacted may just know something more about the Leyburn photo. Regards Karen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carol" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 10:22 AM Subject: [NYorks] Victorian Photo Album >A few years ago I purchased or as I wish to call it rescued a Victorian >photo album. > > Many of the pictures are from the N. E. but there are just as many from > North Yorkshire i.e. Malton, Ripon, Northallerton etc. > > One inparticular, by a Leyburn photographer, I think its one of the > oldest, is of a very pretty lady shown in a very large victorian dress.

Hi Carol, A very nice collection of photos. It may be a long shot but I have a book entitled Bygone Yorkshire - Wensleydale by Clive Torrens published in 1997, ISBN 0953137104 published by Drystone Publications, Jubilee House, Preston Under Scar, Leyburn, North Yorks, DL8 4AH. The book is primarily old picture postcards of the area, which I believe is the authors interest. However the author if he could be contacted may just know something more about the Leyburn photo. Regards Karen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carol" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 10:22 AM Subject: [NYorks] Victorian Photo Album >A few years ago I purchased or as I wish to call it rescued a Victorian >photo album. > > Many of the pictures are from the N. E. but there are just as many from > North Yorkshire i.e. Malton, Ripon, Northallerton etc. > > One inparticular, by a Leyburn photographer, I think its one of the > oldest, is of a very pretty lady shown in a very large victorian dress. > Without looking at the rear of the image I took this to be around the mid > Victorian era. > > The reverse was even better - handwritten was what looked like M A Spence > 1867. > > A look through the 1881 census lead me to think that the lady could be > Margaret A Spence daughter of a Master Tailor living on the High Street, > Leyburn. > > Curiosity is getting the better of me and I would love to know who these > people are. > > There is also one image of a large group of people outside a large house - > who are these people and where is the house. > > Also in the collection was the image of a small child with a rather large > hat. On closer inspection this picture is an enlargement of one person in > the large group. > > The collection can be found on www.wakefieldfhs.org.uk Wakefield Family > History Sharing Who are You ? and then visit the Yorkshire section. > > Any help would be much appreciated > > Carol > Wakefield Family History Sharing > www.wakefieldfhs.org.uk > > Siddle, Mucklow, Officer, Hay, Riach, Hebden and all points from there > > > ==== ENG-NORTH-YORKS Mailing List ==== > List Mom for ENG-NORTH-YORKS-L: > Diana Boothe [email protected] > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.16/225 - Release Date: > 09/01/2006 > >

Hi Mary, I have been following this thread with some interest. My 4th Grt Grandfather is I believe Mark Jackson who married Margaret Ware at Kirkbymoorside in 1801. The children I know about were all born at Bonfield Gill, nr Helmsley including my GGG Grandma Margaret Jackson in 1802. We have as yet been unable to satisfactarily prove Mark Jackson's or Margaret Ware's ancestry. Margaret Jackson married John Teasdale and the Teasdale's were also very prominent Coal Miners in the area from the late 1800's until more or less the early 20C . I am very interested in the information you got from Scarborough library on the history of coal mining in the area. Can you recall any of the names of the books. I would be very interested in seeing if there is anything further about any of my lot. Regards Karen

Hi, Michelle, Sorry to have taken so long, but there was a lot to go through. It does seem that George Jackson and Mary Gray are a ‘common ancestor’ for both of us. My husband did a bit of tracing for me at Northallerton Record Office, and he reckons there are several ‘strands’ from these two having children christened in Kirkbymoorside about the time of Hannah’s birth, including a couple you haven’t mentioned, viz:- Descendants of John and Elizabeth Dobson – this is as you suggest my family, descending to Hannah, whose illegitimate son John married Hannah Holmes in 1846. Their son became a tinner and brazer in Pickering, and ultimately moved to Leeds. Descendants of William and Jane Sturdy – you know all about them. Descendants of Thomas, son of William and Elizabeth Moon, whom you don’t mention; he married Jane Barker (at a date not yet checked) and had several offspring. William and John could also possibly have another brother, Miles; a John, son of Miles, appears in the Kirkbymoorside Register in 1769-70, and John (b.1739) had a son called Miles. The name isn’t common. Additionally, a George Jackson married one Polly Yoward and produced several children at about the same time; his father is also given as George, and it’s not impossible that this grandfather could be William and John’s brother (b. 1729). I have also checked back into the early period of the Parish Register for Jacksons living in Farndale in the early 18th Century. The oldest marriages I can find are of an Ann Jackson to William Dook (or Duck) in 1701 and a John Jackson to Mary Watson in 1711. In a similar period seven Jackson children were christened in Farndale – Sarah (1711), Hannah (1713) and Eliza (1715), all daughters of William, Rose (1718) and John (1722), children of John, John (1723) son of Richard and William (1726) son of George. It’s notable that the names John, George and William are repeated in at lest four generations. I’m hoping to check these and some of the others again, either at Northallerton or in the Bishop’s transcripts at the Borthwick Institute (although those can be very hard to read!) The coal-mining connection to the Jacksons is by marriage. Hannah Holmes’ father William (1779-1837) was shown as a collier on her marriage certificate. There was a large number of colliers called Holmes living in Bilsdale at the turn of the 19th Century, and William Holmes married his wife, Jane Hornby, in Helmesley. The Holmes family can be traced back in Bilsdale to 1594. The coal was mainly mined on the ridges to the north of the North York Moors, notably on Blakey Rigg, Rudland Rigg and above Bilsdale. It was worked in bell-pits, which followed the seams, and their remains can still be found. The land was owned by the Favershams of Duncombe Park, who rented out concessions to colliers; most of these combined mining with farming. The coal wasn’t very good; it was only mined because it could be used locally for lime-burning and domestic heating, and not much was transported any distance. The peak years of mining were between 1771 and 1820, but many mines were still working in the 1840s and 1850s and the last pit closed just after the First World War. I got a lot of information from Scarborough Library on the local coal mining, including a list of seven ‘collieries’ rented out by the Favershams in 1786. From our point of view two are of special interest – Bilsdale Colliery was rented to Isaac Holmes, and Rudland Colliery to William Sturdy. The others were at Swinicle H. Baldwin/J. Craven), Blakey (J. Featherstone), Anknes (L. & W. Normington), Wethercote (B. Barraclough)) and Harland Head (T. Ward). William and Jane Holmes eventually settled at Swinicle Rigg in Farndale Low Quarter, where William died in 1837. In the 1841 Census his widow Jane is listed as a cow-keeper, living with her son John, a coal miner, and daughter Mary; living in an adjacent dwelling are Thomas Jackson (55), farmer, and his son Robert (35), coal miner. Another connection between the branches of the family is that Hannah Jackson eventually (in 1824) married a Sturdy – Jeremiah Sturdy of Hagg. Sorry if this is a bit long-winded, but there’s a lot to go at. I’ve also got a book of land surveys of Bilsdale, done for the Favershams of Duncombe Park, which record their tenants at various dates between 1637 and 1851. If you think there might be anything in it of interest, please get in touch. Mary Lamport --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger NEW - crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with voicemail

Lorraine, Send me the details of your search (I missed the original query) and I'll have a look in the transcribed PRs and MIs, which are published by Ripon Historical Society. Best wishes, Roz

Hi Mary, I'm interested in learning more about these Dobsons you mentioned. Thanks, Betty --- Mary Lamport <[email protected]> wrote: <snip> > Descendants of John and Elizabeth Dobson – this is > as you suggest my family, descending to Hannah, > whose illegitimate son John married Hannah Holmes in > 1846. Their son became a tinner and brazer in > Pickering, and ultimately moved to Leeds. > <snip> ===== Betty Dobson InkSpotter Publishing http://inkspotter.com __________________________________________________________ Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca

Hi Helen, Thanks for your help. I'm really stumped on this one. Her name was JANE ATKINSON aprox 40yrs & had six children, Youngest child aged 3yrs. - so as far as I know it was not childbirth, So I was looking maybe for an epidemic. Thanks for looking at the PR transcripts of Wensley. I have been to the graveyard to look for MI, but guess they would be to poor to have a headstone erected. Could find nothing in local newspaper either. Dotty in Gloucestershire, >>How would I go about finding the cause of death for someone who died in >>1811. >>in the Wensley / Layburn area? >>Are there any death reports at this time & where would I start to look > Hi Dotty, > Unless there was something unusual about the circumstances, you are > unlikely to find anything. There were no death certificates at this date. > Some parish burial records mention illnesses/cause of death, but this very > much depended on what the incumbent/parish clerk wished to make a note of. > I've just looked at the PR transcript of Wensley for 1811 and no cause of > death details are given. > If the death was caused by an accident, you could try local newspapers. > Sometimes there are clues on a memorial inscription. > > <http://www.bl.uk/collections/newspapers.html> > > Regards, > -- > Helen Oram > > ______________________________

Also try the Bishop's Transcripts - Although they are purportedly just copies of the Registers, I find that the authors of these annual documents often embellish them with comments or provide information additional to that contained in the Parish Registers. They are always well worth a try. Paul Kirby Jenny De Angelis wrote: > HI Dotty, > > Very occassionally, I have found, the cause of death, or a vague > allusion to it, is given in the burial register of the parish church > where the person had been buried.

A few years ago I purchased or as I wish to call it rescued a Victorian photo album. Many of the pictures are from the N. E. but there are just as many from North Yorkshire i.e. Malton, Ripon, Northallerton etc. One inparticular, by a Leyburn photographer, I think its one of the oldest, is of a very pretty lady shown in a very large victorian dress. Without looking at the rear of the image I took this to be around the mid Victorian era. The reverse was even better - handwritten was what looked like M A Spence 1867. A look through the 1881 census lead me to think that the lady could be Margaret A Spence daughter of a Master Tailor living on the High Street, Leyburn. Curiosity is getting the better of me and I would love to know who these people are. There is also one image of a large group of people outside a large house - who are these people and where is the house. Also in the collection was the image of a small child with a rather large hat. On closer inspection this picture is an enlargement of one person in the large group. The collection can be found on www.wakefieldfhs.org.uk Wakefield Family History Sharing Who are You ? and then visit the Yorkshire section. Any help would be much appreciated Carol Wakefield Family History Sharing www.wakefieldfhs.org.uk Siddle, Mucklow, Officer, Hay, Riach, Hebden and all points from there

Hi Peter, Many thanks for the transcribing. You have brought a new generation in to play, John & Charlotte. Regards Linda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Appleton" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 7:57 PM Subject: RE: [NYorks] Mudd > Hi Linda > > Here's John Mudd in 1871, 1861 and 1851: > > 1871 > Class: RG10 Piece: 4896 Folio: 127 Page: 36 Schedule: 145 > Civil Parish: St.Hilda's > Municipal Borough: Middlesbrough > Municipal Ward: Boundary Road > Parliamentary Borough: Middlesbrough > Village or hamlet: Old Newport > Address: Station House > John Mudd, Head, Married, 38, Traffic Manager Ironworks, Easby Yorkshire > Eliza Mudd, Wife, Married, 38, , Lane End Staffordshire > Eleanor Mudd, Daur, , 14, Scholar, Middlesbrough Yorkshire > Charlotte Mudd, Daur, , 12, Scholar, Middlesbrough Yorkshire > Emily Mudd, Daur, , 10, Scholar, Middlesbrough Yorkshire > John M Mudd, Son, , 8, Scholar, Middlesbrough Yorkshire > George Mudd, Son, , 7, Scholar, Newport Yorkshire > Joseph Watson, Lodger, Married, 25, Station Master, Eaglescliffe Durham > Margaret Watson, Wife, Married, 22, , Yarm Yorkshire > > 1861 > Class: RG9 Piece: 3687 Folio: 77 Page: 54 Schedule: 243 > Township: Middlesbrough > Municipal Borough: Middlesbrough > Address: Robinson's Buildings > John Mudd, Head, Married, 28, Station Master, Easby Yorkshire > Eliza Mudd, Wife, Married, 28, , Lane End Staffordshire > Eleanor Mudd, Daur, , 4, , Middlesbrough Yorkshire > Charlotte Mudd, Daur, , 2, , Middlesbrough Yorkshire > Emily Mudd, Daur, , 7 months, , Middlesbrough Yorkshire > William Schnider, Boarder, Unmarried, 27, Joiner & Cabinet Maker, Prussia > James Jowsey, Boarder, Unmarried, 34, Tailor, Yorkshire Whitby > > 1851 > Class: HO107 Piece: 2383 Folio: 269 Page: 33 Schedule: 129 > Township: Middlesbrough > Town: Middlesbrough > Address: Durham Street > John Mudd, Head, Married, 56, Farmer's Lab, Yorkshire Hilton (possibly > Skelton) > Charlotte Mudd, Wife, Married, 56, , Yorkshire Bilsdale > John Mudd, Son, Unmarried, 18, Tailor's Apprentice, Yorkshire Easby > Thomas Pratt, Visitor, Unmarried, 29, Farmer's Lab, Yorkshire Airsgath > > I also checked the BMD Index for John William Wade's marriage to > Elizabeth. > I could not find a likely match. There were none listed in any of the > Cleveland area districts between 1860 and 1870. > > regards, > > Peter Appleton > > My Family Tree website: http:/www.tribalpages.com/tribes/pappleton3 > > -----Original Message----- > From: Linda Livingstone [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: 11 January 2006 02:21 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [NYorks] Mudd > > Hi Peter, > > Would be kind enough to transcribe 1851,1861 and 1871 please. > > Very many thanks > > Linda > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Peter Appleton" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 4:34 PM > Subject: RE: [NYorks] Mudd > > >> Linda, >> >> Have found your John Mudd in censuses as follows: >> >> 1851 - HO107/2383/269/33 Schedule 129 >> 1861 - RG9/3687/77/54 Schedule 243 >> 1871 - RG10/4896/127/36 Schedule 145 >> 1881 - RG11/4857/31/11 >> 1891 - not found, presumed deceased >> >> Which of these would you like transcribing? >> >> regards, >> >> Peter Appleton >> >> My Family Tree website: http:/www.tribalpages.com/tribes/pappleton3 >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Linda Livingstone [mailto:[email protected]] >> Sent: 10 January 2006 05:38 >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: [NYorks] Mudd >> >> Hello List, >> >> I am now looking for John Mudd, born Easby, Richmond around 1833. 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Dotty, Brilliant. Thank you for these. MIs can be so informative. I'm slowly but surely identifying more and more Sayers in Yorkshire and Durham and beginning to forge further links to the various branches. A couple of fellow researchers and I have been working for a while on the Sayers in Yorkshire as a whole and we have traced back a number of branches to the 1400s. We also have a considerable amount of information on the family to 1154AD though we are still working to confirm those links. So, if listers come across any references to any SAYER/SAYERS/SAER/SAIRE/SAIR in any of your researches into your own families for anytime up to the 1920s, do post them. Theyd be much appreciated. Thanks again Laurel Sayer Surrey -----Original Message----- From: Paul Verney [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday 12 January 2006 09:11 To: [email protected] Subject: SAYER MI's Hi Laurel, Her are the MI's from St Wilfred, Great Langton, N Yks. Table tomb. " Erected in memory of THOMAS SAYER Esq. He died at Moulton 14th November 1807, aged 46yrs. Near this tomb is deposited the mortal remains of ANN SAYER wife of THOMAS SAYER. She died Gilling 9th August 1842, aged 80yrs. In memory of ALICE daughter of THOMAS & ANN SAYER who died at Carthorpe 22nd April 1866, aged 75yrs." "In memory of THOMAS son of THOMAS & ANN SAYER who departed this life 11th August 1794, aged 6yrs. I have a few other MI's from this area if it is of any help to listers. Dotty in Gloucestershire. ______________________________

Thank you very much for the information, most helpful Regards Linda Western Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: "terry king" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 11:54 PM Subject: Re: [NYorks] Mudd > Linda, > This is the 1881 census, Terry > ---------------------------------------- > Household: > > Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation > Disability > John MUDD Head M Male 48 Easby, York, England Weighman > At > Ironworks > Eliza MUDD Wife M Female 48 Lane End, Stafford, England > Eleanor MUDD Dau U Female 24 Middlesbrough, York, England > Clerk At Post Office (CS) > Charlotte MUDD Dau U Female 22 Middlesbrough, York, > England > Domestic Duties > Emily MUDD Dau U Female 20 Middlesbrough, York, England > Teacher > George MUDD Son U Male 17 Middlesbrough, York, England > Clerk > Eliza MUDD Dau Female 8 Middlesbrough, York, England > Scholar > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---- > Source Information: > Dwelling 10 Baxter St > Census Place Linthorpe, York, England > Family History Library Film 1342170 > Public Records Office Reference RG11 > Piece / Folio 4857 / 31 > Page Number 11 > > =================================== > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Linda Livingstone" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 5:37 AM > Subject: [NYorks] Mudd > > >> Hello List, >> >> I am now looking for John Mudd, born Easby, Richmond around 1833. Looking > for siblings and parents. >> >> It is very strange that he is from another branch of the family. I have > been looking for Thomas William Wade who is supposed to have been born > there > in 1840. Very strange >> >> Can anyone help, please? >> >> >> ==== ENG-NORTH-YORKS Mailing List ==== >> To unsubscribe from the ENG-NORTH-YORKS list, send the command > "unsubscribe" to >> [email protected] (if in mail mode) or >> [email protected] (if in digest mode.) >> >> ============================== >> Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. >> Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx >> >> > > > > ==== ENG-NORTH-YORKS Mailing List ==== > We have archives! Search for your ENG-NORTH-YORKS information here..... > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=ENG-NORTH-YORKS > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >

Hi All, I'm looking for some pointers for the marriage of a couple who lived at West Burton in 1841: JOHN HAMMIL/HAMMELL (and various other spellings) and JANE. On the 1841 Census they have a daughter ELIZABETH aged 14 so I suppose an estimate of <1826-7> would be around the time they married. John Hammill/Hammell, however, was born in Greenhow Hill and he might only comparatively recently moved to live in West Burton in which case, children Agnes (aged 3 in 1841) or Thomas (born 1841) might be better in terms of finding some information on this family. I would be particularly happy to know Jane Hammil's maiden name. Possibly she was born in West Burton in which case a date of 1811 would be close. Could some kind person help, please? Regards, Julie

Hello List, Realised when myy e-mail was posted I had typed in Kirkby Misperton and it should have been Kirkby Malzeard, and just to further clarify, the hamlet of Laverton. Sorry for the confusion. Regards Sam France

HI Dotty, Very occassionally, I have found, the cause of death, or a vague allusion to it, is given in the burial register of the parish church where the person had been buried. If the cause of death is not given there then back in the time before the start of Civil Registration, in July 1837, there really wasn't any consistent recording of causes of death. It might be possible that you wold find a newspaper report of the death if the person died suddenly in an accident or something or was a person of note in the area whose death was newsworthy etc., otherwise I doubt you will find out the cause of death. As you have found out that the person died in 1811 I assume you have found the burial entry in the Parish Register. Regards Jenny DeAngelis Spain. > Can SKP help me with this? > How would I go about finding the cause of death for someone who died in > 1811. > in the Wensley / Layburn area? > Are there any death reports at this time & where would I start to look

Hello List, I have turned a corner with some missing ALLISONS, have been looking for them in Leeds and thanks to Ancestry have found them in the 51 and 61 censuses in Kirkby Mispearton! Does anyone have access to MI indexes for this parish at all and if so is it possible to beg a lookup for William, Mary and Francis B ALLISON? Francis died about 1852 and possible deaths for William and Mary between 1861 and 1871. Would be grateful for any assistance. Many thanks, regards. Sam Gibbons France