Hi Janet, In case no one else has replied to you yet, I'm sending you through two images now, both from 1891 census. Hannah & Walter Stapely and family living in Salford in Lancashire, and also Matthew E Stapley who's with his Uncle in Sandsend village. Hope this helps! Gill ======================================== Message Received: Jan 16 2006, 01:48 PM From: "j.wood7" To: [email protected] Cc: Subject: Re: [NYorks] census look up Many thanks Ann and also Cathy for your help. Yes, Walter could have been at sea as he was later a dock labourer. Thanks again. Janet ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ann Brixey" To: Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 11:26 AM Subject: Re: [NYorks] census look up > Hi Janet, > > I'm sending you images of 1871, 1881 and 1901. > I think Walter must have been at sea ( or similar) in 1881 as the rest of > them are there. I don't have time to look in 1891 but they will be there > somewhere, maybe a mis spelling or transcribe.Let me know if you don't get > an image of that and I will look later. > > Regards > > Ann > > > >I wonder if anyone can help sort out this branch of my tree by seeing if > >they are on the 1871 and 1891 census. > > Here's the story so far:...I think! > > Hannah Duck b 1845 at Sandsend married Zachariah Fletcher. He died in > > 1870. > > Hannah (I think) marries Walter Stapley in 1872 but there is no record of > > Walter in 1881. > > She had 2 children to Zachariah...Mary and Lumley. > > She had 5 children to Walter...Henry, Walter William, John George, James, > > and Matthew Edward. These are all shown on the 1881 census except Mary, > > and Lumley is recorded as Lumbley Stapley..not Fletcher. > > > > So where was Hannah and her children in 1871 and 1891? Any help > > appreciated. > > > > Janet > > > > > > > > ==== ENG-NORTH-YORKS Mailing List ==== > > List Mom for ENG-NORTH-YORKS-L: > > Diana Boothe [email protected] > > > > ============================== > > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > > > > > > ==== ENG-NORTH-YORKS Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from the ENG-NORTH-YORKS list, send the command "unsubscribe" to > [email protected] (if in mail mode) or > [email protected] (if in digest mode.) > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > ==== ENG-NORTH-YORKS Mailing List ==== To unsubscribe from the ENG-NORTH-YORKS list, send the command "unsubscribe" to [email protected] (if in mail mode) or [email protected] (if in digest mode.) ============================== New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429

Hello List, Is there a church for West Burton? If so, what is it's name? I am wanting to establish the maiden name of a JANE who married John Pounder Hammell/Hamill some time 1826-7. Jane and John later had an infant son born one month before the census of 1841; Thomas, I think. This would put his birth month as May, 1841. Would this information maybe help to find Jane's maiden name. Is there any facility for Marriage Record look -ups? There seems to be one for Monumental Inscriptions. Jane appears to have died after 1848 but before 1852. Could somebody advise me, please, on any aspect of my queries? Yours, Julie

Hi, In reply to Betty Dobson You mention John Jackson & Hannah Holmes their son William was my Gt Grandfather all his children moved with him to Leeds & all settled in the Holbeck & Beeston area. The Dobson family I will tell you what I found out but was running out of time at Northallerton so there is gaps John Jackson m Elizabeth Dobson 3 Jan 1758 KMS Elizabeth b 1727/8 father John Jackson Farndale(Cochan) William b 1725 John b 1722 James b1727 John Jackson m Ann Hartas 1720 another Dobson married an Hartas Richard Hartas m Ann Dobson 1714 I had then written in my notebook `that in 1647 Henry Dobson m Ann Betton which shows the Dobson were still in Farndale` When I have some time I intend to go up to Northallerton & see what I can find out but in a day you don`t always seem to move forward in your tree. In reply to Margaret Stafford re George Jackson George Jackson b 28 11 1802 parents father George who son of George Jackson& mother Dinah Thompson mother Polly Yoward Daughter of John Yoward & Elizabeth Barrett I have a problem could anybody help In the 1851 census John Jackson lived in Kirkbymoorside Children living with him & his wife Hannah William 1846 John 1848 Mary age 11 described as daughter. She is not in the 1841 or 1861 census John didn`t marry Hannah Holmes until 1845 so she must have been born before he married. Any ideas he was`nt a widower when he married Hannah Mary Lamport --------------------------------- Yahoo! Cars NEW - sell your car and browse thousands of new and used cars online search now ---------------------------------

To the list More names in my research - HEATON- William & Ann, Joseph, John & Willie BUTTERFIELD - Spencer & Emma MASON - Joseph & Mary, Hannah Maria BALDWIN - John GREENWOOD - Richard & Ann LUND - Charles & Susannah Anyone have these names in their research? Judith

If anyone has access to the Brotton St. Peter MIs I would be delighted to know whether there are any entries under the names of BELL and SANDERSON before I purchase them. Thank you! Diane Johansen

If anyone on the list has access to the 1891 census, would they be so kind as to do a lookup for me, please? I am looking for a family named GARGRAVE. They were in Grewelthorpe in 1881 and may be still there in 1891. I would like to find out where they were, if possible and if there were any more children in the family. William GARGRAVE, aged 41, boot and shoemaker, born Grewelthorpe. Ada GARGRAVE, aged 39, wife, born Northallerton Alfred GARGRAVE, aged 16, son, born Darlington Annie GARGRAVE, aged 14, daughter, born Grewelthorpe John William GARGRAVE, aged 11, son, born Grewelthorpe. Many thanks for any help Ailsa Petrie milton New Zealand -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.18/230 - Release Date: 14/01/2006

Many thanks Ann and also Cathy for your help. Yes, Walter could have been at sea as he was later a dock labourer. Thanks again. Janet ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ann Brixey" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 11:26 AM Subject: Re: [NYorks] census look up > Hi Janet, > > I'm sending you images of 1871, 1881 and 1901. > I think Walter must have been at sea ( or similar) in 1881 as the rest of > them are there. I don't have time to look in 1891 but they will be there > somewhere, maybe a mis spelling or transcribe.Let me know if you don't get > an image of that and I will look later. > > Regards > > Ann > > > >I wonder if anyone can help sort out this branch of my tree by seeing if > >they are on the 1871 and 1891 census. > > Here's the story so far:...I think! > > Hannah Duck b 1845 at Sandsend married Zachariah Fletcher. He died in > > 1870. > > Hannah (I think) marries Walter Stapley in 1872 but there is no record of > > Walter in 1881. > > She had 2 children to Zachariah...Mary and Lumley. > > She had 5 children to Walter...Henry, Walter William, John George, James, > > and Matthew Edward. These are all shown on the 1881 census except Mary, > > and Lumley is recorded as Lumbley Stapley..not Fletcher. > > > > So where was Hannah and her children in 1871 and 1891? Any help > > appreciated. > > > > Janet > > > > > > > > ==== ENG-NORTH-YORKS Mailing List ==== > > List Mom for ENG-NORTH-YORKS-L: > > Diana Boothe [email protected] > > > > ============================== > > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > > > > > > ==== ENG-NORTH-YORKS Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from the ENG-NORTH-YORKS list, send the command "unsubscribe" to > [email protected] (if in mail mode) or > [email protected] (if in digest mode.) > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

Roz Apologies for e-mailing you for a lookup for Ripon, I thought you were referring to me as I'm always being called various names (no, not for that reason!) However, if you did just happen..........! Cheers laurel -----Original Message----- From: samantha PITHARAS [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Saturday 14 January 2006 17:12 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: ENG-NORTH-YORKS-D Digest V06 #14 Hello Roz, Thank you for your kind offer, the family I am interested in are William and Mary ALLISON (various spellings) they were at Laverton on the 1851and 61 censuses and from BMD's their son Francis died there in 1852 and possibly their daughter Catherine married there in 1854. I am trying to find out if they died there or moved again after 61 although they were in their 60's by then. I know that they were in Leeds up until at least 1839 and have no idea where they were between then and 1851, so really anything you find will be a bonus. I had given up on this family until by chance I checked Ancestry in 1851 the other day, which was a pleasant suprise. Many thanks for your help. Regards Lorraine > Message du 14/01/06 14:02 > De : [email protected] > A : [email protected] > Copie à : > Objet : ENG-NORTH-YORKS-D Digest V06 #14 > > > Lorraine, > > Send me the details of your search (I missed the original query) and I'll > have a look in the transcribed PRs and MIs, which are published by Ripon > Historical Society. > > Best wishes, > Roz > > > > > ______________________________ ______________________________

Hi Roz Assume you mean me - I'm making enquiries about MIs relating to all SAYER entries for Yorkshire and Durham, I have a few Yorkshire MIs but am interested in any of the more recently published ones, or any at all in Durham where I've none. I do have the Catholic MIs at Ripon but no others. Many thanks laurel Sayer Surrey -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday 13 January 2006 21:41 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Kirkby Malzeard Lorraine, Send me the details of your search (I missed the original query) and I'll have a look in the transcribed PRs and MIs, which are published by Ripon Historical Society. Best wishes, Roz ______________________________

Hi again Does anyone know if the MIs for any of the following still exist as I've just found some wills for the 16th-17th Cs which refer to these locations: Kirkby in Cleveland Bagby Upleatham South Kilvington Little Moorsome Admittedly they would be very old MIs but you never know. Also, can anyone advise me whether plaques on church walls inside have been recorded in Yorkshire? Some of my earlier Sayers were gentlemen so could well have contributed to church upkeep, or been allocated specific pews, or were recognised in some other way(except for the few who were Catholics of course). Many thanks laurel sayer Surrey

Hi Janet, I'm sending you images of 1871, 1881 and 1901. I think Walter must have been at sea ( or similar) in 1881 as the rest of them are there. I don't have time to look in 1891 but they will be there somewhere, maybe a mis spelling or transcribe.Let me know if you don't get an image of that and I will look later. Regards Ann >I wonder if anyone can help sort out this branch of my tree by seeing if >they are on the 1871 and 1891 census. > Here's the story so far:...I think! > Hannah Duck b 1845 at Sandsend married Zachariah Fletcher. He died in > 1870. > Hannah (I think) marries Walter Stapley in 1872 but there is no record of > Walter in 1881. > She had 2 children to Zachariah...Mary and Lumley. > She had 5 children to Walter...Henry, Walter William, John George, James, > and Matthew Edward. These are all shown on the 1881 census except Mary, > and Lumley is recorded as Lumbley Stapley..not Fletcher. > > So where was Hannah and her children in 1871 and 1891? Any help > appreciated. > > Janet > > > > ==== ENG-NORTH-YORKS Mailing List ==== > List Mom for ENG-NORTH-YORKS-L: > Diana Boothe [email protected] > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

Hello List I am trying to find the marriage of Cathrine Bishop around 1883 to either John Fowkes or William James Lamond. Can anyone help please? Linda Leonora Western Australia

I wonder if anyone can help sort out this branch of my tree by seeing if they are on the 1871 and 1891 census. Here's the story so far:...I think! Hannah Duck b 1845 at Sandsend married Zachariah Fletcher. He died in 1870. Hannah (I think) marries Walter Stapley in 1872 but there is no record of Walter in 1881. She had 2 children to Zachariah...Mary and Lumley. She had 5 children to Walter...Henry, Walter William, John George, James, and Matthew Edward. These are all shown on the 1881 census except Mary, and Lumley is recorded as Lumbley Stapley..not Fletcher. So where was Hannah and her children in 1871 and 1891? Any help appreciated. Janet

Hi Ailsa, Image sent. Regards Ann > If anyone on the list has access to the 1891 census, would they be so kind > as to do a lookup for me, please? I am looking for a family named > GARGRAVE. They were in Grewelthorpe in 1881 and may be still there in > 1891. I would like to find out where they were, if possible and if there > were any more children in the family. > > William GARGRAVE, aged 41, boot and shoemaker, born Grewelthorpe. > Ada GARGRAVE, aged 39, wife, born Northallerton > Alfred GARGRAVE, aged 16, son, born Darlington > Annie GARGRAVE, aged 14, daughter, born Grewelthorpe > John William GARGRAVE, aged 11, son, born Grewelthorpe. > > Many thanks for any help > > Ailsa Petrie > milton > New Zealand > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.18/230 - Release Date: > 14/01/2006 > > > ==== ENG-NORTH-YORKS Mailing List ==== > List Mom for ENG-NORTH-YORKS-L: > Diana Boothe [email protected] > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > >

hi, this is a present day map the area to give you an idea _Streetmap.co.uk- search results_ (http://www.streetmap.co.uk/newmap.srf?x=459500&y=525300&z=5&sv=459500,525300&st=4&ar=Y&mapp=newmap.srf&searchp=newsearch .srf&dn=833&ax=459500&ay=525300) Vansittart Terrace does not seem to be there anymore as far as i can see you i'm not sure where it was in the area. Best bet is to see if you can access an old map of the area i guess. sorry i cant help much just with living in the area the address didnt look quite right. Its more liely to be a Coatham address i should think though

Hi Sue - you can tell I'm not familiar with the area! Registration District was Guisborough Sub-District of Marske l3 Vansittart Terrace Coatham, Kirkleatham USD Hope that helps! Diane Subject: Re: Bell family of Coatham Kirkleatham > Can you verify whether or not its Coatham or Kirkleatham because these are > two distinct areas around Redcar, Coatham being to the North East of the > town > and Kirkleatham the South west > > S Stones > REDCAR > >

In message <[email protected]>, Judith Foy <[email protected]> writes >To the list > >More names in my research - >HEATON- William & Ann, Joseph, John & Willie >BUTTERFIELD - Spencer & Emma >MASON - Joseph & Mary, Hannah Maria >BALDWIN - John >GREENWOOD - Richard & Ann >LUND - Charles & Susannah > >Anyone have these names in their research? > >Judith > Hi Judith, I am researching BUTTERFIELD from the Aysgarth/West Witton/Middleham area. Where are yours from? See my site <http://www.wtoram.co.uk/famtree/surnames.htm> Regards, -- Helen Oram

Hello Ailsa I found William, Ada, Alfred and John in Kirby Malzeard. I've forwarded the image directly to you. Regards, Jennie Abbots Langley, Hertfordshire

Hi, In answer to the ones who asked these questions The Scarborough Library sent me a copy of Ryedale Historian 4 Pages 55-63 1969 from an article by Arthur H. Whitaker `Coal Mining in Bransdale & Farndale in the 18th Cent.` It is an essay based almost entirely on the original documents deposited by the late Earl of Feversham in NorthallertonArchives Cat No 2EW 262 & 230 I also copied some information ( I think from Leeds Library) from `The North Yorks Moor Landscape Heritage` It does say that` miners burrowed to wrest a living in conditions which beggar description` Bilsdale Survey1687-1851 which is the census North Yorkshire County Record Office Publication No 23 Jan 1980 I bought it at a Family History Fair so not sure is in print.I will be happy to look up any names up for anybody. The first dated 1637 is a Survey of Bilsdale George Earle of Rutland who must have owned the land then. eg Margery Jackson holds by lease one tenement called Farehill,one barne, one oxehowse one cowhouse close meadow called Lathe Close containing 2 acres . It then names all the meadows she rents & how many acres they were. The price underneath was 41s. 8d Hope this is any help to you, Mary --------------------------------- Win a BlackBerry device from O2 with Yahoo!. Enter now.

Lorraine, I have not had a lot of joy, but one or two possible sightings might give you a lead. I have checked MIs for Kirkby Malzeard and Dallowgill, but there's only one William ALLINSON recorded: William ALLINSON of West Leas died 13 July 1848 aged 47. Slightly confusingly there is an entry in the burial register for Kirkby Malzeard: 1848-Jul-16 bur William ALLINSON of Bull Ing aged 74 (coroner's warrant) Rather a difference in age, so one or other may have been reversed when transcribed. Obviously not your man, but perhaps related. There is evidence of a family from West Leas/Leas listed in Kirkby Malzeard PRs, with baptisms as follows: 1803-Oct-17 bap John son of William, West Lees 1806-Jan-18 bap Mary dau of William, West Lees 1807-Aug-15 bap Elizabeth dau of William, West Lees 1809-Mar-27 bap Jane dau of William, West Lees However, I did also note the following burials: 1852-Apr-14 bur Francis ALLINSON of High Misses, aged 21 1866-Aug-18 bur William ALLINSON, aged 78 There were also one or two Mary's - do you have an approximate date of birth? Couldn't find the family in the 1841 census, though there were two ALLINSON families farming in the Laverton area of Kirkby Malzeard district: 1) Edward, aged 50, plus Sarah, 50, Martin 11, Peter 8 and Sarah 4. 2) Robert, aged 70, with Elizabeth, also 70, and Margaret, 20. If either of these sound useful let me know and I'll transcribe the details. It would seem quite likely that your William moved back into the area where his family originated. Do you have a place of birth from a later census? The 1841 gives only Yorkshire. Not sure if this is of any help. Best wishes, Roz