Hello Im not sure what sort of connection it might be, my Christopher Thompson Harland was born in 1898. His father was William Harland and his mother Sarah Thompson. I havnt traced her line yet, although i speculate that her parents were Miles Thompson and Mary Ann Ingledew. Im not sure if its correct, but i know that the Ingledews were from Newcastle and holidayed in the countryside at Northallerton every summer. I can just imagine the young Mary Ann falling for the young handsome farm worker where she was staying, so romantic! But, i cant really be sure of the Thompson lineage, all i know is that he has that as part of his name due to his mother. It was quite common to put the surnames of both parents in a childs name. Im sorry i havnt been much help, but if any of it sounds familiar, especially the name "Miles Thompson" and the areas Leake/Borrowby etc then let me know :-) Laura ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jacqueline Harris" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2006 11:31 AM Subject: Re: [NYorks] Ailsa Petrie: a question! > Laura, > I was very interested to see your reference to a Christopher Thompson > HARLAND. > In my THOMPSON family tree there are 5 Christopher THOMPSONs dating from > 1699 in Northallerton including my great great grandfather born 1824. The > youngest was born in 1859 and died 1886. > Could it be another 'twig' in my tree. > > Jackie Harris, > Spain > > Laura Broughton wrote: > >> Hello, sorry to take you by suprise! >> >> I am very confused by all this, i will explain. My HARLAND line farmed >> at knayton grange for years. My great grandfather is Christopher >> Thompson HARLAND b.1898 and married Elsie STEELE b.1894. Elsie was one >> of something like 12 or 13 children to Joseph STEELE and Emma HYDE. My >> grandmother remembers most of these (aunties and uncles) and managed to >> reel most of their names off to me, which i then confirmed on various >> censuses. This includes a george and a richard, although he was more >> commonly called Dick, and the census records his name as this too. So >> this would also link in as George being a witness to his brothers >> wedding. >> >> I think that Dick perhaps inherited the farm at knayton grange somehow? >> But why would he get that farm, it was in the HARLAND family at the time, >> and when Elsie STEELE (his sister?) married my great grandfather >> Christopher Thompson HARLAND they went to live in Ellerbeck, >> Northallerton where my grandmother and mother were born. This is very >> mysterious! >> >> I will stop now as i am most probably barking up the wrong tree (haha!), >> but let me know if im not, its all a bit exciting! >> >> Laura Broughton >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ailsa Petrie" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Friday, March 03, 2006 2:18 AM >> Subject: Re: [NYorks] Ailsa Petrie: a question! >> >> >>> Hi Laura, >>> >>> I'm not used to having questions being asked of me - it's more usually >>> me doing the asking! >>> >>> I'm sorry, I'm not related to the Steel family, Richard Steel married >>> into my family of interest. The woman he married, Eliza Harriet HAMILTON >>> was born at Knayton Grange, the family is listed there in the 1891 >>> census - Richard & Emma HAMILTON and family. They had been married in >>> 1881, after the census of that year. I don't know when they moved to >>> Knayton Grange, or who was there before then. >>> >>> Richard HAMILTON died in 1902 and it's possible that his widow, Emma, >>> continued to farm the property. In a 1913 trade directory, she is listed >>> as a farmer of Knayton. Did Richard STEEL move to Knayton Grange when >>> Emma left, perhaps? >>> >>> Richard STEEL and Eliza HAMILTON married in 1918 and his address is >>> given as Knayton Grange, hers as Knayton. He was aged 32, a bachelor and >>> his father was Joseph STEEL, also a farmer. A witness to the marriage >>> was a George STEEL. Richard died in 1947 and is buried in the churchyard >>> of St Mary's Church, Leake. Eliza died in 1974 and is also buried in the >>> same churchyard, although there is no headstone to mark her resting >>> place. I assume she would be in the same plot as Richard. They had no >>> children. >>> >>> That's all I know of Richard STEEL. If you are able to give me more >>> information about him, it would add to the overall picture for me. I do >>> have a photo of Richard and Eliza on their wedding day, if you are >>> interested. It was given to me by another distant relative. >>> >>> Last year I visited the area and met a lady who thought that the >>> property she lived on was once called Knayton Grange. It now has another >>> name. I was never able to confirm it, though. >>> >>> If any of this is of assistance to you, I'm pleased to help. I look >>> forward to hearing from you again. >>> >>> Regards >>> Ailsa Petrie >>> Hamilton >>> New Zealand >>> >>> Laura Broughton wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, this is for Ailsa who i have seen every so often on the list. >>>> >>>> Whilst researching on the rootsweb forums i came across an old old >>>> message of yours regarding a Richard Steel who farmed at knayton >>>> grange. Knayton Grange is where many of my family farmed (the harland >>>> family) and they married into the Steele family, so this is of great >>>> interest to me! >>>> >>>> Are you decended from the steele family at all? They were a large >>>> family and i have been hoping to find any decendants :-) >>>> >>>> Sorry if i am totally on the wrong tracks, ignore me if i am! >>>> Laura Broughton >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> No virus found in this outgoing message. >>> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>> Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 268.1.1/273 - Release Date: 2/03/2006 >>> >>> >>> ==== ENG-NORTH-YORKS Mailing List ==== >>> We have archives! Search for your ENG-NORTH-YORKS information here..... >>> http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=ENG-NORTH-YORKS >>> >>> ============================== >>> Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. >>> New content added every business day. 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Hi I thought that telling you his name was Dick/Dicke might have shed some light for you, have you seen the Census return for him while he lived at home with his parents, siblings, servants and mother in law?! Its a huge amount of people! The 1881 census is crazy (sorry for it all just wonkily fitting in, might be better to copy and paste this into a word document or text file you can resize), note the mother in law living with them,emmas mother: Name Estimated Birth Year Birthplace Relationship Civil Parish County/Island Servants George Allen abt 1863 Kirby Wiske, Yorkshire, England Servant Leech Green, South Otterington, Yorkshire, England Robert Cummins abt 1863 Bishop Auckland, Durham, England Servant Leech Green, South Otterington, Yorkshire, England Henry Dollitt abt 1861 Knapton, Yorkshire, England Servant Leech Green, South Otterington, Yorkshire, England Robert Hudson abt 1859 Acklam, Yorkshire, England Servant Leech Green, South Otterington, Yorkshire, England Thomas Lambert abt 1864 Carlton Minniott, Yorkshire, England Servant Leech Green, South Otterington, Yorkshire, England William Wardell abt 1861 Acklam, Yorkshire, England Servant Leech Green, South Otterington, Yorkshire, England John Wilton abt 1863 Brafferton, Yorkshire, England Servant Leech Green, South Otterington, Yorkshire, England Maria Roy abt 1866 Knaresbrough, Yorkshire, England Servant Leech Green, South Otterington, Yorkshire, England Family Members Mary Hyde abt 1824 Garton, Yorkshire, England Mother in Law Leech Green, South Otterington, Yorkshire, England Anne Steele abt 1872 Yorkshire, Yorkshire, England Daughter Leech Green, South Otterington, Yorkshire, England Emma Steele abt 1852 Garton, Yorkshire, England Wife Leech Green, South Otterington, Yorkshire, England Emma Steele abt 1879 South Otterington, Yorkshire, England Daughter Leech Green, South Otterington, Yorkshire, England John Steele abt 1875 Langton, Yorkshire, England Son Leech Green, South Otterington, Yorkshire, England Joseph Steele abt 1843 Whitwell, Yorkshire, England Head Leech Green, South Otterington, Yorkshire, England Joseph J. Steele abt 1881 South Otterington, Yorkshire, England Son Leech Green, South Otterington, Yorkshire, England Mary Steele abt 1877 Langton, Yorkshire, England Daughter Leech Green, South Otterington, Yorkshire, England Thomas Steele abt 1874 Langton, Yorkshire, England Son Leech Green, South Otterington, Yorkshire, England William Steele abt 1876 Langton, Yorkshire, England Son Leech Green, South Otterington, Yorkshire, England The 1901 isnt as bad but note "Michall" Hyde living with them (as a "beast man" on their farm). It states he is an uncle, but this should be in relation to the head, joseph. This seems unlikely as i think it is Emmas brother, i think her father was Michael, so its likely her brother was named after him. Still a little confusing! I havnt access to the other censuses, i cant afford any subscriptions, im nearly finished University (about three more months!) and then i can take one out when i have a little more money! I would be very interested too see the picture of Dick Steele, my grandmother remembers him so it would be great too see if i can show it to her and jog her memory. She is a proper Yorkshire grandmother and knows everything about everyone. She mentioned that one of the many brothers and sisters to Dick was mentally disabled or something, i havnt been able to look at the original census image to see if there is anything marked down in the disabilities section. One of them she remembers was called "Aunt Pem" but im not sure which one or what Pem is short for. My great grandmother was Elsie Steele, who unfortunatly died a couple of years after giving birth to my grandmother Gwyneth Harland. I have a picture if you would like too see if there is any resemblance, they have quite distinct features :-) Those parish entries are facinating, that is my great great grandparents Joseph and Emma. When im not at University home is classed as Northallerton, practically next to South Otterington. I havnt had chance to visit there but if i do in the next couple of months i will try and go on a mission to South Otterington and the Northallerton Record Office. I would also like to visit Knayton Grange, but i dont know if it is there any more. I have a few old maps of Northallerton and Ripon area which show Knayton grange on it. I am going to see if i can scan this in for you. I would like to purchase the wills, it is only recently it occured to me to look into getting these documents as i got sent one made out by my 8th great grandfather on the other side! (not related to the steele lineage). Where can you get these from? i will have too see if i can look into this for you :-) phew, i will stop typing now! Laura ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ailsa Petrie" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2006 2:14 AM Subject: Re: [NYorks] Ailsa Petrie: a question! > Laura, > > I don't think you are barking up the wrong tree at all, I think it is a > distant branch by marriage of my own. And you have solved one question for > me! I had previously looked and looked for Richard Steel on the 1901 > census index, with no success. Never thought to look under Dick and Steel > was spelt with an e on the end as well. I do think it is the correct > family, most of these people married others within the same district, so I > had reasoned that Richard would have been born somewhere near Knayton. > > I have the MIs for South Otterington Parish. A few years ago I went to > great expense, considering the currency exchange rate, to purchase a few. > I found these entries, which you may already have - > > "In loving memory of John 2nd son of Joseph & Emma Steel of Leach Green d. > 2 Jan 1894 aged 19 yrs. Also Joseph Steel father of the above d. 17 May > 1925 aged 83 yrs. Peacefully resting." > > "In loving memory of Emma beloved wife of the late Joseph Steel d. 31 Mar > 1941 aged 90yrs. Also George Bielby son of the above d. 31 Jan 1941 aged > 50yrs." > > "In loving memory of Mary Hannah Steel bn 4 Mar 1877 d. 4 Jun 1968. At > rest." > > Re your comment about Richard inheriting Knayton Grange. Was there more > than one farm at Knayton Grange? Would it be more likely that Richard was > a tenant farmer? There used to be a system whereby three generations of > one family were guaranteed tenure, it was called "copyhold". If my > Hamilton family had the farm under that scheme, Richard's marriage to > Eliza may have seen him slot in as the third generation. Especially as > Eliza's brother had so recently died. It wasn't until the 1920s, I think, > that people were encouraged to buy the land they farmed. Only the very > wealthy actually owned land, my family were all tenant farmers for > centuries. If you go back through the list archives for 2002, there was a > thread on this subject called "property tenures". > > Where in the world, do you live? If it is the UK, have you ever purchased > the wills of any of your ancestors? If someone had died around the time of > Richard's marriage, the will might give a clue to any inheritance. > > I have rambled on. Keep on nibbling away at it, I feel very sure that we > are talking about the same family. > > Regards > Ailsa > > Laura Broughton wrote: >> Hello, sorry to take you by suprise! >> >> I am very confused by all this, i will explain. My HARLAND line farmed >> at knayton grange for years. My great grandfather is Christopher >> Thompson HARLAND b.1898 and married Elsie STEELE b.1894. Elsie was one >> of something like 12 or 13 children to Joseph STEELE and Emma HYDE. My >> grandmother remembers most of these (aunties and uncles) and managed to >> reel most of their names off to me, which i then confirmed on various >> censuses. This includes a george and a richard, although he was more >> commonly called Dick, and the census records his name as this too. So >> this would also link in as George being a witness to his brothers >> wedding. >> >> I think that Dick perhaps inherited the farm at knayton grange somehow? >> But why would he get that farm, it was in the HARLAND family at the time, >> and when Elsie STEELE (his sister?) married my great grandfather >> Christopher Thompson HARLAND they went to live in Ellerbeck, >> Northallerton where my grandmother and mother were born. This is very >> mysterious! >> >> I will stop now as i am most probably barking up the wrong tree (haha!), >> but let me know if im not, its all a bit exciting! >> >> Laura Broughton > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 268.1.2/274 - Release Date: 3/03/2006 > > > ==== ENG-NORTH-YORKS Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from the ENG-NORTH-YORKS list, send the command > "unsubscribe" to > [email protected] (if in mail mode) or > [email protected] (if in digest mode.) > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

Laura, I was very interested to see your reference to a Christopher Thompson HARLAND. In my THOMPSON family tree there are 5 Christopher THOMPSONs dating from 1699 in Northallerton including my great great grandfather born 1824. The youngest was born in 1859 and died 1886. Could it be another 'twig' in my tree. Jackie Harris, Spain Laura Broughton wrote: > Hello, sorry to take you by suprise! > > I am very confused by all this, i will explain. My HARLAND line > farmed at knayton grange for years. My great grandfather is > Christopher Thompson HARLAND b.1898 and married Elsie STEELE b.1894. > Elsie was one of something like 12 or 13 children to Joseph STEELE and > Emma HYDE. My grandmother remembers most of these (aunties and uncles) > and managed to reel most of their names off to me, which i then > confirmed on various censuses. This includes a george and a richard, > although he was more commonly called Dick, and the census records his > name as this too. So this would also link in as George being a > witness to his brothers wedding. > > I think that Dick perhaps inherited the farm at knayton grange > somehow? But why would he get that farm, it was in the HARLAND family > at the time, and when Elsie STEELE (his sister?) married my great > grandfather Christopher Thompson HARLAND they went to live in > Ellerbeck, Northallerton where my grandmother and mother were born. > This is very mysterious! > > I will stop now as i am most probably barking up the wrong tree > (haha!), but let me know if im not, its all a bit exciting! > > Laura Broughton > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ailsa Petrie" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, March 03, 2006 2:18 AM > Subject: Re: [NYorks] Ailsa Petrie: a question! > > >> Hi Laura, >> >> I'm not used to having questions being asked of me - it's more >> usually me doing the asking! >> >> I'm sorry, I'm not related to the Steel family, Richard Steel married >> into my family of interest. The woman he married, Eliza Harriet >> HAMILTON was born at Knayton Grange, the family is listed there in >> the 1891 census - Richard & Emma HAMILTON and family. They had been >> married in 1881, after the census of that year. I don't know when >> they moved to Knayton Grange, or who was there before then. >> >> Richard HAMILTON died in 1902 and it's possible that his widow, Emma, >> continued to farm the property. In a 1913 trade directory, she is >> listed as a farmer of Knayton. Did Richard STEEL move to Knayton >> Grange when Emma left, perhaps? >> >> Richard STEEL and Eliza HAMILTON married in 1918 and his address is >> given as Knayton Grange, hers as Knayton. He was aged 32, a bachelor >> and his father was Joseph STEEL, also a farmer. A witness to the >> marriage was a George STEEL. Richard died in 1947 and is buried in >> the churchyard of St Mary's Church, Leake. Eliza died in 1974 and is >> also buried in the same churchyard, although there is no headstone to >> mark her resting place. I assume she would be in the same plot as >> Richard. They had no children. >> >> That's all I know of Richard STEEL. If you are able to give me more >> information about him, it would add to the overall picture for me. I >> do have a photo of Richard and Eliza on their wedding day, if you are >> interested. It was given to me by another distant relative. >> >> Last year I visited the area and met a lady who thought that the >> property she lived on was once called Knayton Grange. It now has >> another name. I was never able to confirm it, though. >> >> If any of this is of assistance to you, I'm pleased to help. I look >> forward to hearing from you again. >> >> Regards >> Ailsa Petrie >> Hamilton >> New Zealand >> >> Laura Broughton wrote: >> >>> Hi, this is for Ailsa who i have seen every so often on the list. >>> >>> Whilst researching on the rootsweb forums i came across an old old >>> message of yours regarding a Richard Steel who farmed at knayton >>> grange. Knayton Grange is where many of my family farmed (the >>> harland family) and they married into the Steele family, so this is >>> of great interest to me! >>> >>> Are you decended from the steele family at all? They were a large >>> family and i have been hoping to find any decendants :-) >>> >>> Sorry if i am totally on the wrong tracks, ignore me if i am! >>> Laura Broughton >> >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this outgoing message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 268.1.1/273 - Release Date: 2/03/2006 >> >> >> ==== ENG-NORTH-YORKS Mailing List ==== >> We have archives! 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Hi Laura, I'm not used to having questions being asked of me - it's more usually me doing the asking! I'm sorry, I'm not related to the Steel family, Richard Steel married into my family of interest. The woman he married, Eliza Harriet HAMILTON was born at Knayton Grange, the family is listed there in the 1891 census - Richard & Emma HAMILTON and family. They had been married in 1881, after the census of that year. I don't know when they moved to Knayton Grange, or who was there before then. Richard HAMILTON died in 1902 and it's possible that his widow, Emma, continued to farm the property. In a 1913 trade directory, she is listed as a farmer of Knayton. Did Richard STEEL move to Knayton Grange when Emma left, perhaps? Richard STEEL and Eliza HAMILTON married in 1918 and his address is given as Knayton Grange, hers as Knayton. He was aged 32, a bachelor and his father was Joseph STEEL, also a farmer. A witness to the marriage was a George STEEL. Richard died in 1947 and is buried in the churchyard of St Mary's Church, Leake. Eliza died in 1974 and is also buried in the same churchyard, although there is no headstone to mark her resting place. I assume she would be in the same plot as Richard. They had no children. That's all I know of Richard STEEL. If you are able to give me more information about him, it would add to the overall picture for me. I do have a photo of Richard and Eliza on their wedding day, if you are interested. It was given to me by another distant relative. Last year I visited the area and met a lady who thought that the property she lived on was once called Knayton Grange. It now has another name. I was never able to confirm it, though. If any of this is of assistance to you, I'm pleased to help. I look forward to hearing from you again. Regards Ailsa Petrie Hamilton New Zealand Laura Broughton wrote: > Hi, this is for Ailsa who i have seen every so often on the list. > > Whilst researching on the rootsweb forums i came across an old old > message of yours regarding a Richard Steel who farmed at knayton > grange. Knayton Grange is where many of my family farmed (the harland > family) and they married into the Steele family, so this is of great > interest to me! > > Are you decended from the steele family at all? They were a large family > and i have been hoping to find any decendants :-) > > Sorry if i am totally on the wrong tracks, ignore me if i am! > Laura Broughton -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 268.1.1/273 - Release Date: 2/03/2006

Hi there I have been trying in vain to see how the HARLANDS of Kirby Knowle fit into my line, i remember my grandmother showing me a piece of paper that traces the HARLAND line in that area to the EDEN family and so on, and she mentioned that is some kind of cousin relation that the Kirby Knowle HARLANDS are to the Northallerton HARLANDS. Do you know which Christopher moved there? (any dates or parents names and birth dates etc?). How are you related? I didnt expect two replies at once, what an exciting day! I look forward to hearing from you, Laura Broughton ----- Original Message ----- From: "macha" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 9:05 PM Subject: [NYorks] Re: [HARLAND > Hi Laura >>From you message to Ailsa I found you had HARLANDs at Knayton. > > Does your family connect with the HARLAND family in Kirby Knowle. I do > know > that one of Christopher HARLANDs children went to Knayton. > > Regards. Macha in NZ (I don't think I am that far from Ailsa being in Te > Aroha) > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Laura Broughton" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, March 03, 2006 6:02 AM > Subject: [NYorks] Ailsa Petrie: a question! > > >> Hi, this is for Ailsa who i have seen every so often on the list. >> >> Whilst researching on the rootsweb forums i came across an old old >> message >> of yours regarding a Richard Steel who farmed at knayton grange. Knayton >> Grange is where many of my family farmed (the harland family) and they >> married into the Steele family, so this is of great interest to me! >> >> Are you decended from the steele family at all? They were a large family > and >> i have been hoping to find any decendants :-) >> >> Sorry if i am totally on the wrong tracks, ignore me if i am! >> Laura Broughton >> >> >> ==== ENG-NORTH-YORKS Mailing List ==== >> List Mom for ENG-NORTH-YORKS-L: >> Diana Boothe [email protected] >> >> ============================== >> View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find >> marriage announcements and more. Learn more: >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx >> > > > > ==== ENG-NORTH-YORKS Mailing List ==== > List Mom for ENG-NORTH-YORKS-L: > Diana Boothe [email protected] > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > >

Hello, sorry to take you by suprise! I am very confused by all this, i will explain. My HARLAND line farmed at knayton grange for years. My great grandfather is Christopher Thompson HARLAND b.1898 and married Elsie STEELE b.1894. Elsie was one of something like 12 or 13 children to Joseph STEELE and Emma HYDE. My grandmother remembers most of these (aunties and uncles) and managed to reel most of their names off to me, which i then confirmed on various censuses. This includes a george and a richard, although he was more commonly called Dick, and the census records his name as this too. So this would also link in as George being a witness to his brothers wedding. I think that Dick perhaps inherited the farm at knayton grange somehow? But why would he get that farm, it was in the HARLAND family at the time, and when Elsie STEELE (his sister?) married my great grandfather Christopher Thompson HARLAND they went to live in Ellerbeck, Northallerton where my grandmother and mother were born. This is very mysterious! I will stop now as i am most probably barking up the wrong tree (haha!), but let me know if im not, its all a bit exciting! Laura Broughton ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ailsa Petrie" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, March 03, 2006 2:18 AM Subject: Re: [NYorks] Ailsa Petrie: a question! > Hi Laura, > > I'm not used to having questions being asked of me - it's more usually me > doing the asking! > > I'm sorry, I'm not related to the Steel family, Richard Steel married into > my family of interest. The woman he married, Eliza Harriet HAMILTON was > born at Knayton Grange, the family is listed there in the 1891 census - > Richard & Emma HAMILTON and family. They had been married in 1881, after > the census of that year. I don't know when they moved to Knayton Grange, > or who was there before then. > > Richard HAMILTON died in 1902 and it's possible that his widow, Emma, > continued to farm the property. In a 1913 trade directory, she is listed > as a farmer of Knayton. Did Richard STEEL move to Knayton Grange when Emma > left, perhaps? > > Richard STEEL and Eliza HAMILTON married in 1918 and his address is given > as Knayton Grange, hers as Knayton. He was aged 32, a bachelor and his > father was Joseph STEEL, also a farmer. A witness to the marriage was a > George STEEL. Richard died in 1947 and is buried in the churchyard of St > Mary's Church, Leake. Eliza died in 1974 and is also buried in the same > churchyard, although there is no headstone to mark her resting place. I > assume she would be in the same plot as Richard. They had no children. > > That's all I know of Richard STEEL. If you are able to give me more > information about him, it would add to the overall picture for me. I do > have a photo of Richard and Eliza on their wedding day, if you are > interested. It was given to me by another distant relative. > > Last year I visited the area and met a lady who thought that the property > she lived on was once called Knayton Grange. It now has another name. I > was never able to confirm it, though. > > If any of this is of assistance to you, I'm pleased to help. I look > forward to hearing from you again. > > Regards > Ailsa Petrie > Hamilton > New Zealand > > Laura Broughton wrote: >> Hi, this is for Ailsa who i have seen every so often on the list. >> >> Whilst researching on the rootsweb forums i came across an old old >> message of yours regarding a Richard Steel who farmed at knayton grange. >> Knayton Grange is where many of my family farmed (the harland family) and >> they married into the Steele family, so this is of great interest to me! >> >> Are you decended from the steele family at all? They were a large family >> and i have been hoping to find any decendants :-) >> >> Sorry if i am totally on the wrong tracks, ignore me if i am! >> Laura Broughton > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 268.1.1/273 - Release Date: 2/03/2006 > > > ==== ENG-NORTH-YORKS Mailing List ==== > We have archives! Search for your ENG-NORTH-YORKS information here..... > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=ENG-NORTH-YORKS > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > >

Hi Laura From you message to Ailsa I found you had HARLANDs at Knayton. Does your family connect with the HARLAND family in Kirby Knowle. I do know that one of Christopher HARLANDs children went to Knayton. Regards. Macha in NZ (I don't think I am that far from Ailsa being in Te Aroha) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Laura Broughton" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, March 03, 2006 6:02 AM Subject: [NYorks] Ailsa Petrie: a question! > Hi, this is for Ailsa who i have seen every so often on the list. > > Whilst researching on the rootsweb forums i came across an old old message > of yours regarding a Richard Steel who farmed at knayton grange. Knayton > Grange is where many of my family farmed (the harland family) and they > married into the Steele family, so this is of great interest to me! > > Are you decended from the steele family at all? They were a large family and > i have been hoping to find any decendants :-) > > Sorry if i am totally on the wrong tracks, ignore me if i am! > Laura Broughton > > > ==== ENG-NORTH-YORKS Mailing List ==== > List Mom for ENG-NORTH-YORKS-L: > Diana Boothe [email protected] > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx >

Hi, this is for Ailsa who i have seen every so often on the list. Whilst researching on the rootsweb forums i came across an old old message of yours regarding a Richard Steel who farmed at knayton grange. Knayton Grange is where many of my family farmed (the harland family) and they married into the Steele family, so this is of great interest to me! Are you decended from the steele family at all? They were a large family and i have been hoping to find any decendants :-) Sorry if i am totally on the wrong tracks, ignore me if i am! Laura Broughton

Good evening, Would anyone on the list be planning a visit to the Northallerton Records Office, please? I would like to ask if some baptism records could be checked for me, if the person concerned has time. I have initial information from the 1901 census and the GRO Index and would like to confirm the details. As the births were all at Hutton Bonville, I am guessing that the baptisms would have been at the Church of St Lawrence in that chapelry or parish. Unfortunately, the LDS films don't cover the timeframe. Harry CLARK and his wife Martha Annie (nee BUCKLE), had 5 children by 1901 and the GRO Index gives me the following possibilities:- Robert CLARK, born Q4 1893 William Duncan CLARK, born Q2 1895 Beatrice Mary CLARK, born Q4 1896 Florence Enid CLARK, born Q2 1898 Muriel CLARK, born Q1 1900 There may have been more after the 1901 census and I would like to know of these, as well. If anyone is able to check the details for me, I would be delighted. Many thanks for your help. Regards Ailsa Petrie Hamilton New Zealand -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 268.1.1/271 - Release Date: 28/02/2006

John, The BT Directory is on line and free. The URL is one of the longest I have ever seen but you should be able to work your way through from http://www.bt.com Jim Balmer Website: freespace.virgin.net/jim.balmer

Hi All, Strange request, does anybody have a current telephone directory for the Kent area who could look and see if there is anybody with the name of LINKEN within. Trying to trace my mother's grandparent's family that came over from Germany around 1830, any help would be appreciated thanks John Morriss HUME Always looking for:-HUME plus ARCHER-Cradley Herts, 1840---BEAL(E) - Sheffield 1880 BROOKES-Rotherham BROGDEN - Collingham York 1851 1860---BUCKLAND-Nottingham 1880 BURTON- Sheffield 1910---CARLTON-Sutton on Forest Yorks. 1730 CLARKE-Myton Hall, CLARK- Hull 1820, Yorks 1825---CROWSHAW- Sheffield 1910 HARGREAVES-West Yorks 1840---HARRISON-Nottingham 1760 HELMAN-London 1850---HOLIDAY-Kilvington York 1780 HUME- Lowestoft 1901--- LINCOLN-London 1850--- MEDD-SEAMER YORK 1901---McBRIDE- Rotherham 1850 SKELTON -York 1800---THEAKER- Sheffield 1910 STANLEY-West Hartlepool-1863 -- ---------------------------------------- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 199 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Try www.SPAMfighter.com for free now!

Hello all, Many thanks to all of you who told me the newspaper feature is not available today. I have contacted the Northern Echo and they have said that they do not post these features into their archives, so we are lost forever if you missed it yesterday!!! However, being as pleased as punch with the article - Sharon Griffiths said such lovely things about us - we couldn't let it go, so we have posted it to a web page on our site, with a link from www.yorkshireancestors.com - including the photo ! <vbg> Regards, Janice Wood

I would like to know whether anyone is interested in or has information on any BELLs of Burnsall? If so I'd be pleased to hear from you. Thanks, NRG.

Hello all, The Northern Echo today, Tuesday 28th February, has a feature about Yorkshire Ancestors - and a big picture of me and Brenda Green! Of course, Yorkshire Ancestors is Brenda Green's "Family Historian's Heaven" but I get in on the act because I work with Brenda to create CDs from the books in her library - www.yorkshireancestors.com. Hopefully, by tomorrow, this feature will appear in the on-line version of the Northern Echo, which can be found at www.thisisthenortheast.co.uk and will be on Sharon Griffiths' page. :-)) Regards, Janice Wood www.yorksgen.com www.btinternet.com/~jansfamily/ www.yorkshireancestors.com www.ryedalefamilyhistory.org in North Yorkshire Researching: BANKS, BEALL, BULMER, CALVERT, COCKERILL, FISHER, FOX, FOXTON, GARBUT, HARRISON, HAWKINS, HOLYDAY, HURD, KIRK, LOWTHER, MATTISON, NAWTON, PATTISON, PICKARD, PICKERING, POTTER, SCAIFE, SHOUT, SIMPSON, SKILBECK, STAINTHORPE, STONEHOUSE, THOMPSON, TRENHOLM(E), WARRINER, WEATHERILL, WEDGEWOOD, WILSON, and WOOD.

Thanks Jennie for your info, will check it out regards john ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 9:23 AM Subject: [NYorks] German ancestors > John wrote > > Hi All, > just discovered my great grandparents were of German origin, just wondered > if there was a web site similar to our own Commonwealth War Graves Commission > or a site devoted to immigrants from Germany to the UK in the 1890's > regards > > John Morriss HUME > > > John-rootsweb has quite a few message boards and lists for different regions > of Europe. For instance, there's one for Huguenot and Walloon ancestors. If > you haven't looked already, you might find that helpful > > Regards, Jennie > > > > ==== ENG-NORTH-YORKS Mailing List ==== > List Mom for ENG-NORTH-YORKS-L: > Diana Boothe [email protected] > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > -- ---------------------------------------- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 194 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Try www.SPAMfighter.com for free now!

ATTENTION : DAWN GILTIN Just to thank you very, very much for your kind help - this helps clear up my mistake - I really do appreciate your kind help!!! Kindest regards from South Africa Mark Barker ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark Barker To: [email protected] Sent: Monday, February 27, 2006 6:07 PM Subject: RENDER COVERHAM Hi - I wonder if someone can please help me? I have just noticed that I have two Thomas Render's who both married Hannah's and all their children are now mixed up and I am not able to see the mistake!!! Is it possible for someone to look up the 1851, 1861 & 1871 census? I am looking for Margaret Render born 23/9/1849 Birdridden Coverham Yorkshire. In 1873 she married a Hancock & in 1881 they were at Belmont Station St Giles Durham England. Her father may have been Thomas Render and her mother Hannah. I need to know who there children were as to try and separate them from each other. The family search also seems to have a few mistakes on these families. Any help will be very much appreciated! kindest regards Mark Barker

Hi Roz, My last two messages must have "crossed in the post" with your message - we both came up with the same websites! Thanks anyway. Best wishes, Don.

John wrote Hi All, just discovered my great grandparents were of German origin, just wondered if there was a web site similar to our own Commonwealth War Graves Commission or a site devoted to immigrants from Germany to the UK in the 1890's regards John Morriss HUME John-rootsweb has quite a few message boards and lists for different regions of Europe. For instance, there's one for Huguenot and Walloon ancestors. If you haven't looked already, you might find that helpful Regards, Jennie

Hi All, just discovered my great grandparents were of German origin, just wondered if there was a web site similar to our own Commonwealth War Graves Commission or a site devoted to immigrants from Germany to the UK in the 1890's regards John Morriss HUME Always looking for:-HUME plus ARCHER-Cradley Herts, 1840---BEAL(E) - Sheffield 1880 BROOKES-Rotherham BROGDEN - Collingham York 1851 1860---BUCKLAND-Nottingham 1880 BURTON- Sheffield 1910---CARLTON-Sutton on Forest Yorks. 1730 CLARKE-Myton Hall, CLARK- Hull 1820, Yorks 1825---CROWSHAW- Sheffield 1910 HARGREAVES-West Yorks 1840---HARRISON-Nottingham 1760 HELMAN-London 1850---HOLIDAY-Kilvington York 1780 HUME- Lowestoft 1901--- LINCOLN-London 1850--- MEDD-SEAMER YORK 1901---McBRIDE- Rotherham 1850 SKELTON -York 1800---THEAKER- Sheffield 1910 STANLEY-West Hartlepool-1863 -- ---------------------------------------- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 192 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Try www.SPAMfighter.com for free now!

Hi - I wonder if someone can please help me? I have just noticed that I have two Thomas Render's who both married Hannah's and all their children are now mixed up and I am not able to see the mistake!!! Is it possible for someone to look up the 1851, 1861 & 1871 census? I am looking for Margaret Render born 23/9/1849 Birdridden Coverham Yorkshire. In 1873 she married a Hancock & in 1881 they were at Belmont Station St Giles Durham England. Her father may have been Thomas Render and her mother Hannah. I need to know who there children were as to try and separate them from each other. The family search also seems to have a few mistakes on these families. Any help will be very much appreciated! kindest regards Mark Barker