Thanks for that offer in Herefordshire, Gordon. Yes, I have traced his paternal grandfather, who was a signalman on the Great Western Railway, and a one-time gardener in a great house. Marged Your husband's probably like me, Marged - when Wales win the Rugby Championship he's Welsh but when England win the World cup or the Ashes he's English! Have you ever been able to trace his paternal grandfather's birth in Herefordshire, by the way? I still pop back down there every now & again to visit my eldest daughter + 3 grandchildren, so if you could ever do with a look-up in the Hereford RO just give me the nod.