What a good response to your original email Marged! I am amazed at just how many lines people are pursuing!! Makes me feel quite inadequate with my 2 lines. Regards to all Anne. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dorothy Holden" <DMHolden@ntlworld.com> To: <eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2006 4:38 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] HOLDEN. > Hello Paul, > > HOLDEN is as common in Lancashire as JONES/WILLIAMS in Wales and SMITH in > England - there is a James in the family line that "my" HOLDEN family > descend from but I don't have much about him at all > > Alfred Holden married Annie WAINE (the Waine family was from Prescot). > His > father was Samuel HOLDEN (father William HOLDER a Carter) who married > Annie > DAVIES b Liverpool West Derby (father William DAVIES, a Carter) at St > Clements Church in Liverpool 26th April 1868. > > Samuel and Annie had a large family - in 1891 they are living at Longtons > Lane Rainhill, Samuel is 48 and a File Cutter born Little Woolton, Annie > is > 46 b West Derby and the following children are listed: > > William aged 22 b West Derby > John aged 20 b West Derby > Robert aged 18 b Rainhill * all subsequent children are also born Rainhill > George aged 15 > Samuel aged 13 > Harry aged 10 > Annie aged 7 > Alfred aged 5 *who married Annie WAINE and whose children my HOLDEN > connection comes from > Thomas aged 2 > Clara aged 2 > > In 1881 they were also at Longtons Lane but with Elizabeth DAVIES > unmarried > aged 31 listed with them. She is recorded as being "wife's sister" b > Liverpool. > > In 1871 they were at 21 Aigburth St West Derby with just William and John, > no mention of a James unfortunately! > > In 1861 Samuel is an apprentice file cutter aged 19 - living with Henry > WHITFIELD and family and other apprentices (Henry was a file maker) at > Hall > Lane Rainhill. > > In 1851 Samuel aged 8 was living with his older brother John and his > family > at Grange Lane Cottages Little Woolton. John is 29 and an agricultural > labourer married with a son, William, aged 4. > > Dot > Dorothy Holden > Dover Kent UK > > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.430 / Virus Database: 268.14.7/537 - Release Date: 17/11/2006 > 17:56 > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-MERSEYSIDE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.14.7/537 - Release Date: 17/11/2006 > >