More thanks, Gordon. I just don't know what to say really, except that I am sure these are all mine and to express heartfelt gratitude! Will be sending you a scan of the birth certificate Marged Further to last my last post, Sarah's age in the 1851 Census (40) puts her birth year at 1810. The IGI has this baptism :- Liverpool St Peter 8 July 1810 (born 29 June 1810) Sarah daughter of John CUTT and Ann RILEY And this marriage :- Liverpool St Nicholas 17 February 1805 John CUTT and Ann RILEY Sarah's true age in the1841 Census (which rounded adult's ages down to the nearest 5) would have been 31, making her the likely mother of the 12 year-old Joseph CUTT in the same household? Regards Gordon