>From St Helens Mooney Devlin Kilgallon Brenda ----- Original Message ----- From: <eng-merseyside-request@rootsweb.com> To: <eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2006 4:45 AM Subject: ENG-MERSEYSIDE Digest, Vol 1, Issue 51 > > > To unsubscribe from ENG-MERSEYSIDE-D, send a message to > > ENG-MERSEYSIDE-D-request@rootsweb.com > > that contains in the body of the message the command > > unsubscribe > > and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software > requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. > > To contact the ENG-MERSEYSIDE-D list administrator, send mail to > ENG-MERSEYSIDE-admin@rootsweb.com > > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: MY NAMES.. (Paul Goodman) > 2. Re: My names (Carolyn Perkes) > 3. Re: MY NAMES (LEON KNAPPER) > 4. Re: HOLDEN. (Dorothy Holden) > 5. Re: MY NAMES (Gordon Evans) > 6. Re: HOLDEN. (Anne Kennedy) > 7. Re: GRAHAM Arthur (Elizabeth Dods) > 8. Re: MY NAMES (wightway@tiscali.co.uk) > 9. Bibby and Jackson. (Joy Heywood) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2006 15:48:28 -0000 > From: "Paul Goodman" <paul.goodman513@ntlworld.com> > Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] MY NAMES.. > To: <eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <001401c70b28$febaa270$bd390450@your447023ae6b> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Dear Dot, > > Do you have a James Edward Holden b 1878 m Margaret Shearley Read 1903? > Their children were Sidney Edward b 5 July 1904 and Catherine b 1908. > They > emigrated to New Jesey. > > Paul Goodman > Folkestone Kent > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dorothy Holden" <DMHolden@ntlworld.com> > To: <eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2006 9:18 AM > Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] MY NAMES.. > > >> My names are: >> >> MENZIES >> HELSBY >> HARRISON John illegitimate son of Mary HARRISON >> BARTON >> BIBBY >> >> and from my husband's side >> >> HOLDEN >> ADDISON >> JONES (but fortunately for me not from Wales!) >> OSTLE >> MILES >> WAINE >> >> Dot >> Dorothy Holden >> Dover Kent UK >> >> -- >> No virus found in this outgoing message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.5.430 / Virus Database: 268.14.7/537 - Release Date: >> 17/11/2006 >> 17:56 >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ENG-MERSEYSIDE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2006 11:17:58 -0500 > From: Carolyn Perkes <cperkes@videotron.ca> > Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] My names > To: eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <005801c70b2d$1cfee850$6401a8c0@D8K2KP21> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > Hi Eric, > > There could be a connection but I don't have immediate proof and not sure > just how. > I'll tell you what I have that makes me think there could be (possibly > naming patterns). This information was given to me by Susan Roscoe, a > distant Perkes cousin born Liverpool now living abroad who found me via > some > message board a few years ago and I'd like to acknowledge that here. > > Another caveat, I work full time and have yet to go about getting the > documents to prove I am on the right trail. > * > 1901 Census > Thomas Perkes (47) and wife Myra (Perry) Perkes (43), living at 36 > Thirlmere > Road, Everton > with their 6 children (including my grandfather) and a *nephew*, Ernest > Perkes, baker's errand boy, born Liverpool. > Now, your Ernest was born Pemberton, maybe that rules him out. Or maybe > his > birthplace is incorrectly listed on the Census? > * > Thomas Perkes above (1853, Wollaston, Worc, --1940, Hamilton, Ontario) > His father, also Thomas Perkes (1824, Dudley, christened Wombourne > Staffordshire, d. 1898, W. Derby ) first wife Emma Coley, of Halesowen, > 2nd > wife, Harriet Evans. > This Thomas Perkes had 11 siblings including a Joseph Aston Perkes, > 1818-1867. Siblings born between 1807 to 1831, all Dudley, Worc, > apparently. > Of these siblings, Charles (1829-1906) emigrated to Philadelphia and Henry > (1814-1890), to Salt Lake City. > Parents of Joseph, Thomas and the rest would be Henry Perkes and Elizabeth > Cartwright Aston. > If there is a connection, it might go back this far, to the children of > Henry and Elizabeth Perkes, or perhaps further, to Henry's generation. > * > The cemetery record for the Perkes family monument in Hamilton Ontario > lists > a Thomas Ernest Porthouse d. 16-06-1920 and Ada McIntryre (Noyes) > Porthouse > 07-01-1948. > * > As a child, I remember being taken to meet my grandfather's cousin Ernest > Perkes and his wife, in Hamilton. I believe he may have been the baker's > errand boy on the 1901 Census. > I don't know of any Nancy Perks in London Ontario. There are several > Perkes > (and more Perks) across Canada, but neither name is all that common in > this > country. > * > If you think any of this might be relevant, let me know and I will send > you > more detailed information. > > Best regards, > > Carolyn Perkes > > Eric Winstanley wrote: >> Hi Carolyn >> I'm not too sure whether this is the same family as yours, but seems a >> little too coincidental not to be. >> I have Joseph Perkes (Perks) born c1866 in Overbury, Worcester who >> married >> Elizabeth Teale. Their son Ernest was born in Northern England, in >> Pemberton >> and married Jane Haselden, a sister to my mother's brother in law. >> Their family emigrated to London, Ontario and although I have made >> contact >> with some of this family, the communication has dried up, possibly >> owing to >> the fact that Nancy Perks had no computer and things had to be done >> by snail >> mail. >> It is disappointing to lose contact and some of this is down to me as >> much >> as Nancy. >> I am in constant contact with the HASELDEN family and would like to >> exchange >> information with the PERKS family and associated families. >> I do hope this is part of your family, but if not it may ring some >> bells >> with someone out there. >> >> Regards, >> Eric in Wigan, Lancs. >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: eng-merseyside-bounces@rootsweb.com >> [mailto:eng-merseyside-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn >> Perkes >> Sent: 18 November 2006 00:35 >> To: ENG-MERSEYSIDE-L@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] My names >> >> Marged, >> Thanks for hosting this list! >> * >> My interests are: >> PERKES ( Dudley Worcestershire, aka Perks back to pre-1800) >> COLEY (Emma, from Shropshire) >> >> By 1861 my PERKES were in Liverpool. >> My g-g grandfather's sister Emma PERKES (b. ca 1861) married a "Dave" >> PORTHOUSE in about 1881. The PORTHOUSES seemed to have been from >> Liverpool. >> >> To say, by 1907 this line of Perkes had emigrated to Hamilton Ontario >> Canada. With a nephew Tom PORTHOUSE. >> In case this helps anyone. >> >> >> ***************************************** >> Carolyn Perkes >> (Montr?al, Qu?bec, Canada) >> >> To go to the site, click on >> http://lists9.rootsweb.com >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ENG-MERSEYSIDE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2006 16:28:56 +0000 (GMT) > From: LEON KNAPPER <leon.knapper1@btinternet.com> > Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] MY NAMES > To: eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <20061118162856.74802.qmail@web86602.mail.ird.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > The names I am researching are: > > Vauxhall District Liverpool > Davenport, McKeown, Blundell, Shaw, Waddington, Rumbold, Foster. > Other Liverpool connections include > Woods, Blackledge, Madsen, Bradley, Mortimore, Birchall, Rogers, > Dunn(USA) > Sullivan, De Soberon. > Regards > Leon > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2006 16:38:11 -0000 > From: "Dorothy Holden" <DMHolden@ntlworld.com> > Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] HOLDEN. > To: <eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: > <20061118163836.CTNG11710.aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@Dotty> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250" > > Hello Paul, > > HOLDEN is as common in Lancashire as JONES/WILLIAMS in Wales and SMITH in > England - there is a James in the family line that "my" HOLDEN family > descend from but I don't have much about him at all > > Alfred Holden married Annie WAINE (the Waine family was from Prescot). > His > father was Samuel HOLDEN (father William HOLDER a Carter) who married > Annie > DAVIES b Liverpool West Derby (father William DAVIES, a Carter) at St > Clements Church in Liverpool 26th April 1868. > > Samuel and Annie had a large family - in 1891 they are living at Longtons > Lane Rainhill, Samuel is 48 and a File Cutter born Little Woolton, Annie > is > 46 b West Derby and the following children are listed: > > William aged 22 b West Derby > John aged 20 b West Derby > Robert aged 18 b Rainhill * all subsequent children are also born Rainhill > George aged 15 > Samuel aged 13 > Harry aged 10 > Annie aged 7 > Alfred aged 5 *who married Annie WAINE and whose children my HOLDEN > connection comes from > Thomas aged 2 > Clara aged 2 > > In 1881 they were also at Longtons Lane but with Elizabeth DAVIES > unmarried > aged 31 listed with them. She is recorded as being "wife's sister" b > Liverpool. > > In 1871 they were at 21 Aigburth St West Derby with just William and John, > no mention of a James unfortunately! > > In 1861 Samuel is an apprentice file cutter aged 19 - living with Henry > WHITFIELD and family and other apprentices (Henry was a file maker) at > Hall > Lane Rainhill. > > In 1851 Samuel aged 8 was living with his older brother John and his > family > at Grange Lane Cottages Little Woolton. John is 29 and an agricultural > labourer married with a son, William, aged 4. > > Dot > Dorothy Holden > Dover Kent UK > > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.430 / Virus Database: 268.14.7/537 - Release Date: 17/11/2006 > 17:56 > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2006 16:57:26 -0000 > From: "Gordon Evans" <gordon.w.evans@btinternet.com> > Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] MY NAMES > To: <eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <005401c70b32$a0904bf0$0201a8c0@Smokey> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="ISO-8859-15"; > reply-type=original > > Janet > > Although you and I come pretty close to a connection through our > KIRKPATRICK's of Liverpool & Caldy, and via them the SHERRATT's of > Glenbervie & Ocle Pychard (Herefordshire) I'd be most surprised if the > name > DAVIES were to bear similar fruit :- > > One of my great-grandmothers was a Sidney DAVIES born 1833 in Amlwch > (Anglesey). > She married a Thomas HUGHES (b1826 Mold) and gave birth to three children > (one my grandmother) in Holyhead between 1866 and 1873. > The family were proprietors of the Anglesey Arms in Vulcan Street, > Holyhead. > Sidney died in Walton, Liverpool, in 1908 at the age of 74. > > Gordon > > From: <wightway@tiscali.co.uk> > To: <eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com>; > Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2006 3:47 PM > Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] MY NAMES > >>Just in case its not such a lost cause, my stepfather's name is DAVIES, >>should >>you wish to exchange information. >>Janet > >>From: "Gordon Evans" <gordon.w.evans@btinternet.com> >>I am in fact 75% Welsh (JONES, HUGHES, GRIFFITHS, WILLIAMS, >DAVIES and >>PARRY) which is almost a lost cause, but my English names are : >>FELL(S) (Liverpool 1500's, Bidston/Arrowe 1500/1600's) >>BENNETT (Neston 1500's, Woodchurch 1500/1600's) >>SHERLOCK (Oxton 1500/1700's, Raby/Upton-in-Overchurch 1700's) >>EVANS (Puddington 16/1700's, Little Meols/Wallasey 17/1800's) >>LEADER/LEATHER/LEDDER (Puddington 1600's, Frankby 16/1700's) >>COVENTRY (West Kirby 1600's) >>CAMPBELL (Paddington/Hampstead 1800's) >>After the mid-1850's just EVANS in Walton, Bootle and New Brighton >with a >>branch in Durban, South Africa. >>PS. Does anyone else have both Puddington and Paddington in their family >>tree? :-) >>Gordon >>Wirral UK > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2006 16:55:22 -0000 > From: "Anne Kennedy" <chrysalisanne@tiscali.co.uk> > Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] HOLDEN. > To: <eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <012e01c70b32$5f6d56e0$b1d12f50@D2H94Y1J> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > What a good response to your original email Marged! I am amazed at just > how > many lines people are pursuing!! Makes me feel quite inadequate with my 2 > lines. > > Regards to all > Anne. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dorothy Holden" <DMHolden@ntlworld.com> > To: <eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2006 4:38 PM > Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] HOLDEN. > > >> Hello Paul, >> >> HOLDEN is as common in Lancashire as JONES/WILLIAMS in Wales and SMITH in >> England - there is a James in the family line that "my" HOLDEN family >> descend from but I don't have much about him at all >> >> Alfred Holden married Annie WAINE (the Waine family was from Prescot). >> His >> father was Samuel HOLDEN (father William HOLDER a Carter) who married >> Annie >> DAVIES b Liverpool West Derby (father William DAVIES, a Carter) at St >> Clements Church in Liverpool 26th April 1868. >> >> Samuel and Annie had a large family - in 1891 they are living at Longtons >> Lane Rainhill, Samuel is 48 and a File Cutter born Little Woolton, Annie >> is >> 46 b West Derby and the following children are listed: >> >> William aged 22 b West Derby >> John aged 20 b West Derby >> Robert aged 18 b Rainhill * all subsequent children are also born >> Rainhill >> George aged 15 >> Samuel aged 13 >> Harry aged 10 >> Annie aged 7 >> Alfred aged 5 *who married Annie WAINE and whose children my HOLDEN >> connection comes from >> Thomas aged 2 >> Clara aged 2 >> >> In 1881 they were also at Longtons Lane but with Elizabeth DAVIES >> unmarried >> aged 31 listed with them. She is recorded as being "wife's sister" b >> Liverpool. >> >> In 1871 they were at 21 Aigburth St West Derby with just William and >> John, >> no mention of a James unfortunately! >> >> In 1861 Samuel is an apprentice file cutter aged 19 - living with Henry >> WHITFIELD and family and other apprentices (Henry was a file maker) at >> Hall >> Lane Rainhill. >> >> In 1851 Samuel aged 8 was living with his older brother John and his >> family >> at Grange Lane Cottages Little Woolton. John is 29 and an agricultural >> labourer married with a son, William, aged 4. >> >> Dot >> Dorothy Holden >> Dover Kent UK >> >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this outgoing message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.5.430 / Virus Database: 268.14.7/537 - Release Date: >> 17/11/2006 >> 17:56 >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ENG-MERSEYSIDE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.14.7/537 - Release Date: >> 17/11/2006 >> >> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2006 12:02:41 -0500 > From: Elizabeth Dods <elizd77@rogers.com> > Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] GRAHAM Arthur > To: eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <8FC411C3-B645-4E67-BEE1-1F737D929858@rogers.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed > > This Arthur died in 1952 at the age of 29. So, guess it's not him! > Elizabeth Dods > elizd77@rogers.com > > > > On 18-Nov-06, at 10:47 AM, Cath & Brian wrote: > >> Elizabeth, >> >> I have a cousin Arthur born in 1933. >> >> Cathy. >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG- >> MERSEYSIDE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2006 17:40:57 +0000 > From: wightway@tiscali.co.uk > Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] MY NAMES > To: eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com, eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <45412CD700037A9F@mail-2-uk.mail.tiscali.sys> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-15" > > Not wishing to offend any one here but, is it also possible that there is > a tendency to abbreviate by nature of the dialect? I do think it is > interesting > and also important to know local characteristics. > > Janet > > > >>-- Original Message -- >>From: "Marged" > >> >>Hi Gordon >> >>However, it is "the Wirral Names" Jackie is talking about! >> >>I believe some people do call it The Wirral Peninsula >> >>Marj > > > ___________________________________________________________ > > Tiscali Unlimited Broadband with FREE weekend calls only 12.99! > http://www.tiscali.co.uk/products/broadband/ > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2006 17:45:04 -0000 > From: "Joy Heywood" <joyheywood@btinternet.com> > Subject: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] Bibby and Jackson. > To: <eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <000a01c70b39$48070710$1a8a9951@home2259eb40a6> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Hi-my names from the Wirral are Bibby and Jackson. Alexander Bibby married > Sarah Jackson 1753 at Great Neston.Thereafter, they removed to Flint . > Actually , he could have been from Flint-In those days there was a regular > ferry service across the Dee, but, she was from the Wirral.I can't get > back > any further on these two-anyone have any connections? > Joy > Original Message ----- > From: <eng-merseyside-request@rootsweb.com> > To: <eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2006 3:48 PM > Subject: ENG-MERSEYSIDE Digest, Vol 1, Issue 50 > > >> >> >> To unsubscribe from ENG-MERSEYSIDE-D, send a message to >> >> ENG-MERSEYSIDE-D-request@rootsweb.com >> >> that contains in the body of the message the command >> >> unsubscribe >> >> and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software >> requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. >> >> To contact the ENG-MERSEYSIDE-D list administrator, send mail to >> ENG-MERSEYSIDE-admin@rootsweb.com >> >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Names (Yvonne Purdy) >> 2. Re: RE RE THE Wirral (wightway@tiscali.co.uk) >> 3. Re: Roll Call (Ray Jones) >> 4. FW: Roll Call (wightway@tiscali.co.uk) >> 5. Re: Result. Free (wightway@tiscali.co.uk) >> 6. Re: The Wirral (Raymond Fowler) >> 7. Re: MY NAMES (Cath & Brian) >> 8. My Names: MCMONAGLE, TROUGHTON, BATEMAN, HUGHES.......... >> (Pat Wagley) >> 9. Re: GRAHAM Arthur (Cath & Brian) >> 10. Re: MY NAMES (wightway@tiscali.co.uk) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2006 13:32:51 -0000 >> From: "Yvonne Purdy" <von@yvonnepurdy.free-online.co.uk> >> Subject: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] Names >> To: <eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com> >> Message-ID: >> <CCEJILOPMDICBMMNNJGPOEMKGCAA.von@yvonnepurdy.free-online.co.uk> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> >> Hi all, >> >> I'd like to add some names too. Gordon and I are blood related, so I'm >> also >> interested in >> >>> FELL(S) (Liverpool 1500's, Bidston/Arrowe 1500/1600's) >>> BENNETT (Neston 1500's, Woodchurch 1500/1600's) >>> SHERLOCK (Oxton 1500/1700's, Raby/Upton-in-Overchurch 1700's) >> >> I hope you don't mind me 'pinching' a bit of your message, Gordon:-)) >> >> Also researching: >> SILCOCK from Greasby >> SWIFT (my elusive William SWIFT, born ca 1829 Liverpool, son of Joseph >> SWIFT, Butcher; can't find him in either 1841 or 1851 census) >> HUGHES and JONES, (inevitably), from West Kirby (another link with >> Gordon) >> CARROLL (Dundalk, Ireland) >> WILSON (I think my earliest, so far, is John Wilson of Woodchurch, who >> married Ann MASON of Greasby in 1741, Woodchurch). >> WALL (Jane who married William Wilson in 1769, Bidston) >> >> Best regards, >> Yvonne Purdy (nee Sherlock) >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2006 13:51:53 +0000 >> From: wightway@tiscali.co.uk >> Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] RE RE THE Wirral >> To: eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com >> Message-ID: <45413F4700038183@mail-4-uk.mail.tiscali.sys> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-15" >> >> Is it possible that reference to Wirral as "The Wirral" is an >> abbreviation >> for The Wirral Peninsula. >> >> Janet >> >> ___________________________________________________________ >> >> Tiscali Unlimited Broadband with FREE weekend calls only 12.99! >> http://www.tiscali.co.uk/products/broadband/ >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 3 >> Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2006 08:56:22 -0500 >> From: "Ray Jones" <nantwich@istar.ca> >> Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] Roll Call >> To: "Peter Jones" <p-rjones@sympatico.ca>, >> <eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com> >> Message-ID: <001a01c70b19$553086c0$50f6fea9@nantwich> >> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; >> reply-type=original >> >> Peter, >> How far back, and where to,do you go back on your Cheshire Jones' family >> ? >> Ray.Jones, London,Ontario >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Peter Jones" <p-rjones@sympatico.ca> >> To: <eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2006 8:07 AM >> Subject: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] Roll Call >> >> >>> My names are: >>> >>> JONES Cheshire >>> KENYON Cheshire >>> MCGUNIIGALL Cheshire >>> NEILL Cheshire and Scotland >>> DONONOE Cheshire and Ireland >>> ROBINSON Cheshire >>> ENGLAND Cheshire >>> MCCOLLOUGH Cheshire and Ireland >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> Peter in Burlington, Ontario >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> ENG-MERSEYSIDE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 4 >> Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2006 14:40:51 +0000 >> From: wightway@tiscali.co.uk >> Subject: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] FW: Roll Call >> To: eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com >> Message-ID: <45413F4700038285@mail-4-uk.mail.tiscali.sys> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-15" >> >> I've been subscribed to this list on a "watching for" basis for some >> time, >> just in case I have information that others might need that might one day >> turn up something >> for me. Perhaps this now is the purpose in responding to a reveille. >> >> KIRKPATRICK, SILLERS or SELLERS and JOHNSON are the names with >> connections >> in Caldy, W Birkenhead, and Liverpool.. >> >> I have to give credit to Gordon for being able to fill in some of my gaps >> in the past on the KIRKPATRICK name that has a connection also with >> JOHNSON >> and SILLERS or SELLERS. They were married in Liverpool and raised a >> family >> in Caldy Cheshire, though they maintained a connection with Liverpool >> whilst >> there was seafaring in the family. At some point they left Cheshire to >> live >> and eventually die in Liverpool. >> >> Maybe those with Cheshire interests here might pick up on this now; I've >> never really known if Cheshire names were somewhat off topic for a >> Merseyside >> list. I am at a disadvantage at the moment in not being able to receive >> mails into my mail client until late in the afternoon of Monday next, due >> to some error so I havent been able to see whether there has been a url >> posted >> for a map of the area of interest to this list as it seems has been >> suggested. >> Good idea!. >> >> I should clarify at this point also that not only do I have a brick wall >> but I have also something of a cement maize. I may not have made it clear >> before, it does seem a good opportunity to do so now, that in searching >> these >> folk I have absolutely no relationship with them - so far - in my own >> ancestry. >> >> I am doing so because they are connected to a line that I have extensive >> records for - also with some help from Gordon, as well as from other >> Researchers, >> though they do bear the same name as that of a Gt Gt Grandmother. So >> with >> that explanation out of the way the details of these folk are as follows: >> >> David KIRKPATRICK b 1783 m Mary SILLERS b 21.10.1796 St Peter's Church >> Liverpool. >> Together they raised several children - I have details of them - >> apparently >> in Caldy, Cheshire [W. Birkenhead] >> Never did understand about the West Birkenhead district but no doubt >> someone >> will explain now. >> David KIRKPATRICK died at 130 Park Lane, Liverpool having been a Master >> Mariner >> and later, a Surgeon. >> Mary [SILLERS] KIRKPATRICK died 1864 also in Liverpool, apparently a >> Teacher >> >> Maybe the SILLERS or SELLERS name is one of Cheshire, but also perhaps >> JOHNSON. >> Mary Sillers was the daughter of John SILLERS/SELLERS and Mary JOHNSON >> who >> married in 1788 >> >> I dont know where either of these folk were born but I suspect it could >> be >> in a place that is definitely off topic for this list. >> >> Janet >> >> >> >> ___________________________________________________________ >> >> Tiscali Unlimited Broadband with FREE weekend calls only 12.99! >> http://www.tiscali.co.uk/products/broadband/ >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 5 >> Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2006 14:50:12 +0000 >> From: wightway@tiscali.co.uk >> Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] Result. Free >> To: eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com >> Message-ID: <45413F47000382CF@mail-4-uk.mail.tiscali.sys> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-15" >> >> LOL I am fairly certain they are cousins but as yet cannot prove it one >> way or the other. At one time I didnt know if - shock horror - I might >> have >> married the wrong one to the wrong lady! I wondered also if the lady in >> question might have courted with the deceased, and then decided to marry >> the other of the same name so as not to complicate matters, the banns >> even, >> rather along the lines of your thought. >> Fortunately the good people who are transcribing records at the Cheshire >> Parish Project were able to produce a marriage where the groom kindly >> wrote >> down the name of his father, who by that time had died. What a blessing >> that was. So, I'm sorry, its back to the grind on Monday for you since >> I've >> never had much luck with the lottery balls. >> >> Janet >> >> >>>-- Original Message -- >>>From: "Sandra Durkin" <thedurk@btinternet.com> >>> >>> >>>Hi Janet >>> >>>Yes, very short odds, I imagine. Unless Alexander had psychic powers and >>> >>>presented himself at the registery office immediately before his demise >> and >>> >>>sorted the paperwork out to save his family the trouble..... >>> >>>Or he could have had a twin brother of the same name? I'm putting my >>>money >>> >>>on his psychic powers and hoping they passed down the line to you so that >>> >>>you can sort all our brick walls out. Or let me have next weeks lottery >> >>>numbers so that I can get on with my family research without the >>>hindrance >>> >>>of having to turn up for work five days a week. >>> >>>Sandra >> >> >> ___________________________________________________________ >> >> Tiscali Unlimited Broadband with FREE weekend calls only 12.99! >> http://www.tiscali.co.uk/products/broadband/ >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 6 >> Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2006 15:09:00 -0000 >> From: "Raymond Fowler" <ray@skem2000.freeserve.co.uk> >> Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] The Wirral >> To: <eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com> >> Message-ID: <00f001c70b23$9b8516e0$5ee487d9@freeserve.co.uk> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >> >> Be reminded that Merseyside is an 'administrative county' only. >> TheWirral is geographically still in Cheshire. >> Liverpool and Southport are still in Lancashire. >> The Royal Mail accepts the use of old county names without conditions. >> Ray Fowler. >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "margaret davies" <maglez@bigpond.com> >> To: <ENG-MERSEYSIDE@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2006 7:51 AM >> Subject: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] The Wirral >> >> >>> My Dear Gordon!!!!The Wirral short for The Wirral Peninsula. I was born >> and brought up on THE Wirral and deliberately use the THE word to denote >> for >> me THE most important place in my world!! >>> Jackie I'm sure meant The names 'in Wirral' not 'the Wirral' names. >>> Subtle >> difference I believe!! Be like me Jackie and call it The Wirral if that >> is >> what you want!! >>> Re Merseyside. How I hated it when The Wirral was no longer a place in >> Cheshire in it's own right but was replaced by Merseyside!! I still >> address >> letters to my sister in Wirral, Cheshire, England. Always have and always >> will! Just my little protest! However she is glad of the transport >> arrangements like so many others. Margaret in Australia >>> To go to the site, click on >>> http://lists9.rootsweb.com >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ENG-MERSEYSIDE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 7 >> Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2006 10:24:39 -0500 >> From: "Cath & Brian" <b_atkinson@rogers.com> >> Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] MY NAMES >> To: <eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com> >> Message-ID: <004c01c70b25$aa691f60$cf8c1a46@yourf2bcrprmnp> >> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; >> reply-type=original >> >> Dorothy, >> >> Mary Smith in 1927 Married Wm. Graham at St.Simons parish church. >> Liverpool. >> >> her fathers name was Thomas Smith (deceased). >> hope this helps. >> Cathy. >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 8 >> Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2006 09:37:22 -0600 >> From: "Pat Wagley" <patriciawagley@msn.com> >> Subject: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] My Names: MCMONAGLE, TROUGHTON, BATEMAN, >> HUGHES.......... >> To: <eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com> >> Message-ID: <BAY110-DAV33569C6E5957DF3C5B83BD1EF0@phx.gbl> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >> >> >> >> My Liverpool names: >> >> >> >> MCMONAGLE >> >> >> >> TROUGHTON >> >> >> >> BATEMAN >> >> >> >> And of course the usual JONES and HUGHES, a little further info. to >> distinguish mine from everybody else's: >> >> >> >> John HUGHES married Elizabeth JONES in Welshpool, Mont. Wales 1870. They >> moved to Liverpool between 1881 and 1890. >> >> Elizabeth died 1899, John re-married Grace SEARLE, and they had one known >> son Albert, b. after the 1901 census. >> >> >> >> Gordon, if you should find that any of your HUTCHINSONs were in St. >> Bee's, >> Cumberland Parish between 1539 and 1837 I may be able to help as I have >> extracted all of the HUTCHINSONs from that parish into a spread sheet and >> would be happy to either do a look up or send a copy. >> >> >> >> Pat >> >> Texas >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 9 >> Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2006 10:47:55 -0500 >> From: "Cath & Brian" <b_atkinson@rogers.com> >> Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] GRAHAM Arthur >> To: <eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com> >> Message-ID: <007401c70b28$ea59f5b0$cf8c1a46@yourf2bcrprmnp> >> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; >> reply-type=original >> >> Elizabeth, >> >> I have a cousin Arthur born in 1933. >> >> Cathy. >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 10 >> Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2006 15:47:53 +0000 >> From: wightway@tiscali.co.uk >> Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] MY NAMES >> To: eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com, eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com >> Message-ID: <45413F4700038422@mail-4-uk.mail.tiscali.sys> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-15" >> >> Just in case its not such a lost cause, my stepfather's name is DAVIES, >> should >> you wish to exchange information. >> >> Janet >> >> >>>-- Original Message -- >>>From: "Gordon Evans" <gordon.w.evans@btinternet.com> >>> >>> >>>I am in fact 75% Welsh (JONES, HUGHES, GRIFFITHS, WILLIAMS, DAVIES and >>>PARRY) which is almost a lost cause, but my English names are : >>> >>>FELL(S) (Liverpool 1500's, Bidston/Arrowe 1500/1600's) >>>BENNETT (Neston 1500's, Woodchurch 1500/1600's) >>>SHERLOCK (Oxton 1500/1700's, Raby/Upton-in-Overchurch 1700's) >>>EVANS (Puddington 16/1700's, Little Meols/Wallasey 17/1800's) >>>LEADER/LEATHER/LEDDER (Puddington 1600's, Frankby 16/1700's) >>>COVENTRY (West Kirby 1600's) >>>CAMPBELL (Paddington/Hampstead 1800's) >>> >>>After the mid-1850's just EVANS in Walton, Bootle and New Brighton with >> a >>> >>>branch in Durban, South Africa. >>> >>>PS. Does anyone else have both Puddington and Paddington in their family >>>tree? :-) >>> >>>Gordon >>>Wirral UK >>> >>>From: "Marged" <marged36@btopenworld.com> >>>To: "MERSEYSIDE" <ENG-MERSEYSIDE-L@rootsweb.com> >>>Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 10:42 AM >>>Subject: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] WELCOME TO NEW MEMBERS >>> >>>>Good Morning >>>>I notice we have a number of new members on the list. Let's try and >>>>make >>>>things a bit more interesting, as there is not much going on at the >>>>moment. >>>>Perhaps all listers would like to send in the names they are searching >> for. >>>>Also, the districts of Merseyside they are interesting. This is a very >>>>wide >>>>area and I will send a map link so we can see how far we reach. >>>>Marged >> >> >> ___________________________________________________________ >> >> Tiscali Unlimited Broadband with FREE weekend calls only 12.99! >> http://www.tiscali.co.uk/products/broadband/ >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> To contact the ENG-MERSEYSIDE list administrator, send an email to >> ENG-MERSEYSIDE-admin@rootsweb.com. >> >> To post a message to the ENG-MERSEYSIDE mailing list, send an email to >> ENG-MERSEYSIDE@rootsweb.com. >> >> __________________________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ENG-MERSEYSIDE-request@rootsweb.com >> with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the >> body >> of the >> email with no additional text. >> >> >> End of ENG-MERSEYSIDE Digest, Vol 1, Issue 50 >> ********************************************* >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.14.5/534 - Release Date: >> 14/11/2006 >> > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the ENG-MERSEYSIDE list administrator, send an email to > ENG-MERSEYSIDE-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the ENG-MERSEYSIDE mailing list, send an email to > ENG-MERSEYSIDE@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-MERSEYSIDE-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of ENG-MERSEYSIDE Digest, Vol 1, Issue 51 > ********************************************* > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.430 / Virus Database: 268.14.7/538 - Release Date: 18/11/2006 > 4:48 PM > >