Hi Lainee, Did you see these birth records for an Eliza and Elizabeth Jolly in 1854 on Lancashire BMD: JOLLY Eliza Chorley Chorley CHO/21/1 JOLLY Elizabeth Chorley Chorley CHO/20/62 She could be the Elizabeth Holley in your 1861 census record. Also on IGI: Eliza <Jolly> 22 OCT 1854 Saint Peter, Chorley, Lancashire, England Parents: Father: William Jolly Mother: Eliza Batch No.: C162921 Mother was Elizabeth! I tried to find a death record for William Jolly but no luck. Gay -----Original Message----- From: Lainee Denton-Jones [mailto:lainee@earthlink.net] Sent: April 28, 2005 7:43 PM To: ENG-MERSEYSIDE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [ENG-MERSEY] James Barton Gay, I saw that one, but the wife's name is Elizabeth...every record I have found mentioning her has always been just plain Elizabeth. This is the first breakthrough clue I have and am sitting here wishing I had access to parish records right now. FamilySearch.org and LancashireBMD doesn't show a marriage between a James Barton and Holley either. Now I would jump on the Barton/Jolley marriage if I had seen her listed as Ann anywhere. LOL Thanks! Lainee At 08:33 PM 4/28/2005, you wrote: >Hi Lainee, >Lancashire BMD has the following for 1858: >BARTON James JOLLEY Anne J Liverpool, St. Andrew Liverpool 2023LP/1/70 >Gay > >-----Original Message----- >From: Lainee Denton-Jones [mailto:lainee@earthlink.net] >Sent: April 28, 2005 6:31 PM >To: ENG-MERSEYSIDE-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [ENG-MERSEY] James Barton > >I just found out some interesting information on my Bartons! Apprently, >James Barton was the second husband to the Elizabeth I have been trying to >find the maiden name of for so long: > >1861 Liverpool, Lancashire, England census > >James Barton 1817 Essex, >England Head Liverpool Lancashire >Elizabeth >Barton 1825 Liverpool Wife Liverpool Lancashire >James >Barton 1858 Liverpool Son Liverpool Lancashire >John >Barton 1860 Liverpool Son Liverpool Lancashire >Elizabeth M Holley >1854 Liverpool Stepdaughter Liverpool Lancashire > >FreeBMD has found no marriages for a James Barton to a Holley between 1854 >and 1858. Anyone have any ideas? > >Thanks! > >Lainee -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.10.4 - Release Date: 4/27/2005 ==== ENG-MERSEYSIDE Mailing List ==== <a href="http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~liverpool/ENG-MERSEYSIDE.html ">ENG-MERSEYSIDE-L List netiquette</A> ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx