Merry Christmas to Everyone, As I was born in Mayo, Yukon. Canada. I can only enjoy the stories and tradition from Merseyside which I read on the list. Memories my families in years past would have also heard the boats and there horns and such. I enjoy reading of history in the past. A fond memory which I have was Christmas 1948. As we had left the Yukon in 1944 and moved to North Vancouver, British Columbia. I had not seen my Grandmother till 1948. When she came for a visit. She arrived late at night on the train. I as a young girl that could not go to sleep till I knew my Grandmother had arrived. As I was in bed, she came to my bedside. She had on a beautiful muskrat fur coat. It was so soft. I had to run my fingers up and down the sleeve. Hearing a train whistle always brought back memories to me after that. We took my Grandmother shopping and all along the streets the stores had wonderful Christmas music playing. I was so full of excitement and skipped along holding onto my Mom's hand. As a treat that Christmas. My grandmother took my sister and I for our very first perm. At that time it was called a Cold Wave. All I remember was it was like a big spider with all these cords attached to curler's. All these attached curlers were so heavy. I could not keep my head up. My hair was pretty curly that Christmas. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you all, may you have much success with your genealogy research in the coming year. A Very Merry Christmas and a Happy, Prosperous and Peaceful New Year. Best Wishes for 2007 Pat and Bill mayo-gal@telus.net -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.15.23/591 - Release Date: 17/12/2006
Hi Pat & Bill thanks for your memories but can you and anyone else go a bit further and tell us how you came to be in Mayo ( obviously an Irishman got there before you ) what was your grandmothers name ? where did she come from ? did she come from Liverpool ? lets have stories of families emigrating and why? , Maybe it would help us to understand what our ancestors went through for a better life . My own brother Francis (Frank always a bit of a rebel ) was a member of the fire service nd went through the firemans strike ( 50s or 60s) and vowed never to go throu that again a lot of firemen ,Policemen and ambulence men emigrated all over the world for a better life he went to New Zealand and his wife and child followed later , 4 weeks on the boat to get there so you get just an inkling of our ancestors past travels Cheers George Pat and Bill <mayo-gal@telus.net> wrote: Merry Christmas to Everyone, As I was born in Mayo, Yukon. Canada. I can only enjoy the stories and tradition from Merseyside which I read on the list. Memories my families in years past would have also heard the boats and there horns and such. I enjoy reading of history in the past. A fond memory which I have was Christmas 1948. As we had left the Yukon in 1944 and moved to North Vancouver, British Columbia. I had not seen my Grandmother till 1948. When she came for a visit. She arrived late at night on the train. I as a young girl that could not go to sleep till I knew my Grandmother had arrived. As I was in bed, she came to my bedside. She had on a beautiful muskrat fur coat. It was so soft. I had to run my fingers up and down the sleeve. Hearing a train whistle always brought back memories to me after that. We took my Grandmother shopping and all along the streets the stores had wonderful Christmas music playing. I was so full of excitement and skipped along holding onto my Mom's hand. As a treat that Christmas. My grandmother took my sister and I for our very first perm. At that time it was called a Cold Wave. All I remember was it was like a big spider with all these cords attached to curler's. All these attached curlers were so heavy. I could not keep my head up. My hair was pretty curly that Christmas. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you all, may you have much success with your genealogy research in the coming year. A Very Merry Christmas and a Happy, Prosperous and Peaceful New Year. Best Wishes for 2007 Pat and Bill mayo-gal@telus.net -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.15.23/591 - Release Date: 17/12/2006 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-MERSEYSIDE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Cheers George
Hi George, I would have to take many steps back to how we came to be in the Yukon, Territories. Far North in Canada. This Grandmother Bertha Kate Harding is on my Mothers side of the family. She was a WW1 war bride. She came from Surrey, England. My Grandfather married her in England. They boarded the ship SS Metagama in Liverpool on Feb. 8, 1919 to arrive Feb. 16, 1919 at Saint John , New Brunswick. Canada just two days before my Mother was born in Saint John. They then traveled by train and boat to the Yukon where my Breaden family were. They is much " Steam boat " history of my Breaden family on the net. For my Liverpool roots. I have to go back much farther to my 2x Great Grandparents Thomas FOGG 1831 and his wife Elizabeth ASHTON abt 1836 both born Liverpool. There daughter Rebecca FOGG born 1858 Poolton cum Seacome married Thomas FULTON born 1848 Birkenhead, Cheshire. Before Birkenhead my FULTON's are from Hoose ( Hoylake ), Cheshire. It was there son James born 1883 Birkenhead, Cheshire and his Mother Rebecca ( with second husband , Thomas JAMES b 1873 Wales, lived in Birkenhead ). that came to Calgary, Alberta. Canada about 1909. His wife to be Margaret Ann BROWN born 1882 Birkenhead, Cheshire followed later and married my Grandfather in Calgary Alberta in April 1910. We don't know what took my father James FULTON to the Yukon where he met and married my Mother. We have heard stories of him being in the Merchant Marines so may have been though that. Or perhaps went to find those beautiful gold nuggets they have there. I know nothing of that part of his life. As for why my Grandfather emigrated to Canada we don't know. He was killed in WWI 1916 Ypres, Belgium . My father was just 5 with two younger sisters. My grandmother died in 1941. We never heard stories on this side of the Pond of there lives in England. Grandfather was a linesman for the telephone company here before the war. In 1901 census Birkenhead he was 18 years of age working as a signalman for the railway in Birkenhead, Cheshire. My understanding is the Canadian Government had a big banner campaign for people to come and settle in the West ( of Canada ). The railway also needed folks to settle across Canada for there Rail to go from Coast to Coast. So they too were pushing for people to come. Land was $ 10.00 an acre. Perhaps my Grandfather heard the " good news " while working at the railway station. Just guest work George, my brick walls. My husbands family also came to Canada 1910/1912 from Nottingham, England, also Leicestershire. We don't know the reason why ?. Season's Greeting Pat and Bill Bakewell ( nee Fulton ). mayo-gal@telus.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "GEORGE HIGHTON" <george.highton@btinternet.com> To: <eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, December 18, 2006 1:12 AM Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] Christmas > Hi Pat & Bill > thanks for your memories but can you and anyone else go a bit further > and tell us how you came to be in Mayo ( obviously an Irishman got there > before you ) what was your grandmothers name ? where did she come from ? > did she come from Liverpool ? lets have stories of families emigrating and > why? , Maybe it would help us to understand what our ancestors went > through for a better life . My own brother Francis (Frank always a bit of > a rebel ) was a member of the fire service nd went through the firemans > strike ( 50s or 60s) and vowed never to go throu that again a lot of > firemen ,Policemen and ambulence men emigrated all over the world for a > better life he went to New Zealand and his wife and child followed later > , 4 weeks on the boat to get there so you get just an inkling of our > ancestors past travels Cheers George >snip >> -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.15.24/592 - Release Date: 18/12/2006
Merry Christmas With a bit of music . . .on this site. http://lovelace.ucsd.edu/Ted/Arcticwild/Music/nwpassage.html Best regards, Carolyn
Hello listers, Haven't contributed for a long time but since people are interested in how and why people emigrated, I can tell you a bit about what my gr-gr grandfather, Thomas Perkes (born in Stourbridge but later lived in Liverpool) wrote in a long letter to one of his sons about his travels on merchant ships and his endeavours to emigrate. He first left Liverpool in 1869, at age 16 on a merchant ship for New Orleans, then did quite a bit of travelling as an A.B. seaman throughout the 1870s to the early 1880s. It seems he decided to emigrate three times. First time was as a single man sometime in the mid 1870s - to Melbourne Australia because, as he wrote "I wanted to get to Melbourne, as I had bought books to educate myself in navigation to become an officer in the Merchant Marine Service." That was "a beautiful full-rigged ship, going out to Melbourne with both saloon and steerage passengers (. . .)." However, six days after that ship left Canning Dock, it was hit in the night by a steamer sailing from Antwerp to Montréal, and sank (the passengers and crew made it off, rescued by another ship, but all the livestock drowned). He then worked on the Cheshire Railway line as a porter, but then went back to the ships (I think the pay was better). Second time, he decided to emigrate to Philadephia, because though he was now married with a first child soon to be on the way (in 1881 was living with his parents at 15 Whitfield Terrace) , he was working at "Eastman's Ltd. (Refrigerator), but didn't have much work. Left on the S.S. British King for Philadephia,2 and brought out his wife. Their first child became ill, his wife became homewick, so they returned to Liverpool in 1884. At one point, describing working conditions he writes: "We went to Liverpool again and stayed with my Mother and Father. I got a job with the Telephone Company in Liverpool as ground man, worked up to be a first class wire man. One job we had was running cables through the tunnel being run over to Birkenhead and left on my own accord, as Lillian was born and Charlie was a baby and we had to board out when we working away from home. I walked to and from St. Helen for months - 12 miles each way, and from Warrington - 14 miles for months at a time. Finally I quit." And: "I got a job at the Grain Storage & Elevator Company running a boiler and pair of engines on the locomotive principle, had a bust-up with the Chief Engineer, as sometimes I had to work night and day for three and four days running and my wife had to bring my meals down." Finally, he emigrated with wife and whole family to Hamilton Ontario Canada in about 1907: Again, employment troubles: "I went to work as an extra hand at Eastman refrigerator again and finally was put on the permanent staff, occasionally made dock man - one of three. Some time after, the other big Beef (chilled) Companies made up their minds to run Eastman's off the wholesale market so they bought up every available hoof in the U.S.A., putting Eastman, Ltd. out of the market altogether, as Eastman's had to buy all beef for their own stores in England, Wales, Scotland and Ireland. So the two dock men were laid off, although I, as a refrigerator employee, was kept on until my dear wife and I decided to come out to Canada, which we did." It appears that he had steady employment in Canada as an engineer working with boilers at Westinghouse and Nordic Cotton Mills and public waterworks. Sorry if this is a bit long, but I thought some of the details on jobs and working conditions might be of some interest. As for my mom's side, have recently knocked down a brick wall on her paternal grandfather, Henry Saltmarsh born Great Hallingbury Essex (these folks were agricultural labourers), in a reform school in 1871 at age 15, but by 1876 was married in Hamilton Ontario to a Canadian-born woman, whose mother likely left Ireland because of the famine sometime in the 1830s. Anyway, hope this gives some idea of what people's aspirations and motivations were. Merry Christmas to all! Best regards, Carolyn Perkes Montreal Canada
Hello Pat - my grandfather was born in Nanaimo, on Vancouver Island, but as he grew up in Salt Lake City, he thought he had been born there until he was 65 and applying for his old age pension in the UK. So when I hear the Yukon mentioned, I think of him, because one of the places he mentioned was Saskatoon. I wish I could ask him all about it now! And ask him how he wound up living in Edge Lane, Liverpool 7, when he had lived in such BEAUTIFUL places! Marged Merry Christmas to Everyone, As I was born in Mayo, Yukon. Canada. I can only enjoy the stories and tradition from Merseyside which I read on the list. Memories my families in years past would have also heard the boats and there horns and such. I enjoy reading of history in the past. A fond memory which I have was Christmas 1948. As we had left the Yukon in 1944 and moved to North Vancouver, British Columbia. I had not seen my Grandmother till 1948. When she came for a visit. She arrived late at night on the train. I as a young girl that could not go to sleep till I knew my Grandmother had arrived. As I was in bed, she came to my bedside. She had on a beautiful muskrat fur coat. It was so soft. I had to run my fingers up and down the sleeve. Hearing a train whistle always brought back memories to me after that. We took my Grandmother shopping and all along the streets the stores had wonderful Christmas music playing. I was so full of excitement and skipped along holding onto my Mom's hand. As a treat that Christmas. My grandmother took my sister and I for our very first perm. At that time it was called a Cold Wave. All I remember was it was like a big spider with all these cords attached to curler's. All these attached curlers were so heavy. I could not keep my head up. My hair was pretty curly that Christmas. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you all, may you have much success with your genealogy research in the coming year. A Very Merry Christmas and a Happy, Prosperous and Peaceful New Year. Best Wishes for 2007 Pat and Bill mayo-gal@telus.net -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.15.23/591 - Release Date: 17/12/2006 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-MERSEYSIDE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.433 / Virus Database: 268.15.23/591 - Release Date: 17/12/2006 15:17
Hello Marged, My sister's and brothers pretty much live in Nanaimo. My parents also before they pasted away. There since 1957. One sister in Powell River. I married a soldier, therefore moved around a lot. We have a big Army Camp here in Wainwright, Alberta. Many British soldiers have also trained here. We have been hear since 1966. p.s it will be hard to follow me though the census. Saskatoon which is in Saskatchewan ( East of Nanaimo ) is a long was from the Yukon ( North ). The Yukon. Territories was mainly famous for its Gold Rush in 1898. I'm wondering if your not confusing Yukon with Yorkton, Saskatchewan ?. Each place has it's own beauty. I have never been to England. But I am always in awe with your beautiful Churches and buildings. Right now we can be sure of a white Christmas. We have a few feet of snow and a beautiful sunny day. The snow is glistening like we see on beautiful Christmas Cards. Best Wishes, Pat and Bill mayo-gal@telus.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marged" <marged36@btopenworld.com> To: <eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, December 18, 2006 2:06 AM Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] Christmas > Hello Pat - my grandfather was born in Nanaimo, on Vancouver Island, but > as he grew up in Salt Lake City, he thought he had been born there until > he was 65 and applying for his old age pension in the UK. > > So when I hear the Yukon mentioned, I think of him, because one of the > places he mentioned was Saskatoon. I wish I could ask him all about it > now! And ask him how he wound up living in Edge Lane, Liverpool 7, when > he had lived in such BEAUTIFUL places! > > Marged >> snip >> > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.15.24/592 - Release Date: 18/12/2006