Hi Gordon no offence taken I was just trying in my own limited way to say  that I did have more detailed information  a very kind lister in Nova Scotia sent me his copy of a booklet  ,The Trial of Jones Hazelton Anderson and Trevaskiss a compilation of all the Statements from the accused and all witnesses from the trial in 1844 a limited edition of 900 the judge summed up briliantly and said dont pay too much attention to what they say about themselves but concentrate on what they say about each other and from what I can make out Carr & Galloway were aquited mainly on Trevaskiss,s evidence  as you say they hanged him just the same ( and deserved )as I say Gordon no offence taken Now I have 2 William Henry Trevaskiss in my tree 1 b.c. 1857 the son of John Trevaskiss  so William,s nephew  and 1 sent to me by a distant relative of his William Henry b.c. 1869 they may be the same person I don,t know yet  do you know the relationship of Thomas H. to John and Martha ? and does it say where in Cornwall they were Born ? or where Thomas H. lived in liverpool By the way does anyone know if there is a Rootsweb site in Wahler Norway do we have any Norwegian Listers ?  Cheers George ----- Original Message ---- From: Gordon Evans <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, 22 July, 2008 4:10:46 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] William TREVASKISS, mutineer Hi George I meant no offence in my post, and would be mortified to think that you might have perceived any. :-( To this 68 year-old pensioner "megabucks" is anything over £7 - the cost of a BMD certificate.  :-) The "thug" tag was based on two newspaper reports from the Illustrated London News, posted on another list; you are obviously privy to more detailed information from another source, suggesting that there may have been mitigating circumstances (but they hanged him just the same?). Another poster on the same list gave you this family in the 1881 Canadian Census :- 1881 Canada Hamilton, Wentworth, Ontario Martha TREVASKIS, 72, born England John TREVASKIS, 40, blacksmith, born England Thomas H TREVASKIS, 30, blacksmith, born England You asked the poster whether he knew where in England this John TREVASKIS was born, but I don't recall seeing any on-list response. So I endeavoured in my earlier post to demonstrate to you that Martha & John were born in CORNWALL, Thomas H in LIVERPOOL, since all three feature in the 1851 Census for Liverpool? PS. I've been called many, many things in my lifetime, but never (until now) "naive". :-) Best regards Gordon To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2008 1:04 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] William TREVASKISS, mutineer >Hi Gordon >I did not shell out megabucks as you said the cost was very reasonable >much cheeper than a trip to London for myself the proof was to find out if >he was not related to me as much as if he was. >I think it,s a bit naive to call him a thug , I in no way condone the >murders but given the alternative Join in or be thrown overboard not much >of an alternative, who,s to say at this distance what we would do . The >wife was not on board and there was only one child of 12 or thirteen the >age William was when he went to sea and he was the one who told Carr and >Galloway the plans of Captain Fielding the instigator of the plot he also >spoke up on behalf of th child and took no part in his murder they were >not in there beds but up on deck fighting for there lives( I have the >benefit of the Book of the full trial transcript which was Kindly sent to >me by a lister in Nova Scotia ) I am of the opinion we can,t hide the past >but we can learn from it he is one of mine like it or not >P.S. the Trevaske family was one of 2 familys you kindly found for me on >the 1841 I have not been able to tie them in yet there are several >Trevaskiss in Canada again I have not been able to tie them in the search >goes onRegards George ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi again George I have both the William Henry TREVASKISS's you mention in my family tree too, so they're not the same person :- 1. Born 1857 Liverpool, son of John (b1816 Stepney) & Ann BRADY. 2. Born 1869 Liverpool, son of John (b1844 Liverpool) & my relative Caroline TURTLE. The second one (b1869) was a grandson of John & Ann (Brady) TREVASKISS, he marrying Katherine HOLMAN in 1891 in Liverpool and having at least 9 TREVASKISS children, although four of these died in infancy. Of the first one (b1857) I have no trace after the 1861 Census, but I've know for some time that Ancestry have this :- 1910 US Federal Census Essex, New Jersey William H TREVASKISS, born about 1859 Spouse - Mary E It's on my list to look up on one of my future visits to Birkenhead Library, who I believe have free access to the US Censuses via Ancestry Library Edition. Regards Gordon From: "GEORGE HIGHTON" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 6:33 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] William TREVASKISS, mutineer >Hi Gordon >no offence taken I was just trying in my own limited way to say that I did >have more detailed information a very kind lister in Nova Scotia sent me >his copy of a booklet ,The Trial of Jones Hazelton Anderson and Trevaskiss >a compilation of all the Statements from the accused and all witnesses >from the trial in 1844 a limited edition of 900 the judge summed up >briliantly and said dont pay too much attention to what they say about >themselves but concentrate on what they say about each other and from what >I can make out Carr & Galloway were aquited mainly on Trevaskiss,s >evidence as you say they hanged him just the same ( and deserved )as I say >Gordon no offence taken >Now I have 2 William Henry Trevaskiss in my tree 1 b.c. 1857 the son of >John Trevaskiss so William,s nephew and 1 sent to me by a distant relative >of his William Henry b.c. 1869 they may be the same person I don,t know >yet do you know the relationship of Thomas H. to John and Martha ? and >does it say where in Cornwall they were Born ? or where Thomas H. lived in >liverpool >By the way does anyone know if there is a Rootsweb site in Wahler Norway >do we have any Norwegian Listers ? >Cheers George

Gordon, do you want the image of the US census entry for William? I have access. best regards Kathy -------------------------------------------------- From: "Gordon Evans" <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 7:36 PM To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] William TREVASKISS, mutineer > Hi again George > > I have both the William Henry TREVASKISS's you mention in my family tree > too, so they're not the same person :- > > 1. Born 1857 Liverpool, son of John (b1816 Stepney) & Ann BRADY. > > 2. Born 1869 Liverpool, son of John (b1844 Liverpool) & my relative > Caroline > TURTLE. > > The second one (b1869) was a grandson of John & Ann (Brady) TREVASKISS, he > marrying Katherine HOLMAN in 1891 in Liverpool and having at least 9 > TREVASKISS children, although four of these died in infancy. > > Of the first one (b1857) I have no trace after the 1861 Census, but I've > know for some time that Ancestry have this :- > > 1910 US Federal Census > Essex, New Jersey > William H TREVASKISS, born about 1859 > Spouse - Mary E > > It's on my list to look up on one of my future visits to Birkenhead > Library, > who I believe have free access to the US Censuses via Ancestry Library > Edition. > > Regards > Gordon > > From: "GEORGE HIGHTON" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 6:33 PM > Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] William TREVASKISS, mutineer > >>Hi Gordon >>no offence taken I was just trying in my own limited way to say that I did >>have more detailed information a very kind lister in Nova Scotia sent me >>his copy of a booklet ,The Trial of Jones Hazelton Anderson and Trevaskiss >>a compilation of all the Statements from the accused and all witnesses >>from the trial in 1844 a limited edition of 900 the judge summed up >>briliantly and said dont pay too much attention to what they say about >>themselves but concentrate on what they say about each other and from what >>I can make out Carr & Galloway were aquited mainly on Trevaskiss,s >>evidence as you say they hanged him just the same ( and deserved )as I say >>Gordon no offence taken >>Now I have 2 William Henry Trevaskiss in my tree 1 b.c. 1857 the son of >>John Trevaskiss so William,s nephew and 1 sent to me by a distant relative >>of his William Henry b.c. 1869 they may be the same person I don,t know >>yet do you know the relationship of Thomas H. to John and Martha ? and >>does it say where in Cornwall they were Born ? or where Thomas H. lived in >>liverpool >>By the way does anyone know if there is a Rootsweb site in Wahler Norway >>do we have any Norwegian Listers ? >>Cheers George > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Kathy Yes please, if it's no trouble! Does he perhaps feature in any earlier US Censuses too? Regards Gordon From: "kathy binns" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 7:52 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] William TREVASKISS, mutineer >Gordon, >do you want the image of the US census entry for William? I have access. >best regards >Kathy

Hi George >By the way does anyone know if there is a Rootsweb site in Wahler Norway do >we have any Norwegian Listers ? You could maybe try here :- http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html Gordon From: "GEORGE HIGHTON" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 6:33 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] William TREVASKISS, mutineer >Hi Gordon >........ By the way does anyone know if there is a Rootsweb site in Wahler >Norway do we have any Norwegian Listers ? >Cheers George