We have a new member, Pete, and I'd like to welcome him to the list. Go right ahead Pete and ask any questions you have relating to Liverpool and Merseyside in general Marged (in Southport)

Welcome Pete...pull up a chair and tell us all about yourself. Lesley Ü All mail scanned No trees were killed in the sending of this message, but a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced. -----Original Message----- From: Marged We have a new member, Pete, and I'd like to welcome him to the list. Go right ahead Pete and ask any questions you have relating to Liverpool and Merseyside in general Marged (in Southport) No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.21.8/1338 - Release Date: 3/21/2008 5:52 PM

Hello everybody, :-) Well, I've watched the list roll by now for a couple of months and even just reading the posts has given me quite a lot of tips of where to start researching the family tree. Thankyou for the starters help list too, a little gem! I've been amazed at how fast and from where the responses come from. So to make prpoper use of the list I've been having a good rumage through various sites first in order to ask some more targeted question for the stuff I can't locate. I haven't written away for any other details yet. I thought I'd wait until I've exhausted the online options before going further afield. With some aspects of the family tree I've made more progress online than I ever thought possible. I've rounded up what I know in the hope it might trigger something for others. I've been careful to word it in such a way to give weight to things we feel are certainties but also mention other more vague information which we're not so sure about. My Grandfather was Leslie Burgham. We think he was born 27 November 1901 or 27 November 1902 and worked for Lovells sweet factory as a driver somewhere round the late 1930s to early 1940s. G.F. Lovell & Co Ltd seem to have mainly been based in Newport, Gwent with another operation in Manchester but did they ever have an operation in Liverpool? Apparently my grandmother and grandfather met while working for Lovells. The spelling of both Leslie & Burgham is correct. Its quite often mixed with Burgum especially as you go further back. I can place a "Mrs Burgham" from an addressed family postcard at 171 Northbrook St , Princes Park , Liverpool 8 in 1934. Northbrook St has since been severly truncated and is now only a short street. We think he left Northbrook St and moved into Alderson Road, Liverpool in 1960. His brother also lived in Alderson Road we think somewhere between Cardigan Street and Lawrence Road. Leslie Burgham was certainly still alive in 1966. We think he died 6 December 1966 or 6 December 1967 aged 65. He's buried in Smithdown Rd Cemetery, Which I think I'm correct in saying is now called Toxteth Park cemetery? Free BMD lists only 4 births for "Leslie Burgham" Leslie Edward Stock Burgham registered as being born in Chepstow 1901. and.... Leslie Arthur Burgham registered as being born in Gloucester 1902. Two other Leslie Burghams born in Sunderland 1907/1908 I've yet to check out. There are some splendid family tree sites on the internet for Burgham http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~bfhs/MasterL_1.html these two in particular being of interest http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~bfhs/ftdd.html although spelt 'burgum' has a heavy toxteth park link but not names I can link to and this one: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~bfhs/ftvv.html the 'Burgham' spelling matches now and showing " Leslie Edward Stock Burgham ". The birthdate is about right at 1901 but the date of death doesn't fit, it's 8 years too late for it to be the same person. Just to confuse the issue even further a family member recalls Leslie's wife's name as 'Winny' probably 'Winifred'. The only marriage FreeBMD lists for a Leslie Burgham is to a Winifred Davies marrying a Leslie Arthur Burgham in Apr/May/Jun 1924 in Liverpool. The 1901 census records Leslie Burgham 2M (born in Gloucestershire Lydney) Gloucestershire Lydney I'm assuming '2M' means 2 months old. Would the census record date been the end of the 1901 year? We think Leslie and Winifred(?) had 3 daughters as follows: Dorothy (the eldest?) Unknown (possibly Audrey ?). Possibly born between 1933 and 1943? Anna (the youngest?) married to a coloured chap (quite unusual for those days). Also a family member "H Burgham" who retired from CWS Ltd (Co-op) African Oil Mills , Liverpool L1 in 1941. This is possibly my great grandfather. African Oil Mills seems to have be involved with animal feeds especially nuts from what I can make out. The factory, now gone, seems to have been replaced with Norton Scrap metals at the bottom of Parliment St and Flint Street http://www.yoliverpool.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6941&highlight=african+mills We also have a number of unaddressed old postcards from various parts of the UK but they seem to cluster around Monmouthshire / Gloucester / Cinderford / Malverns and Scotland notably Kirkcudbright. The cards all live in a large old Lovell's Toffee tin box. I'm now going to contact Lovells who seem to be going still in some form in Gwent but have been through a management buyout and then aquisition by another company. I'm also going to try to trace a records dept for the Co-Op to see if I can find more information on H. Burgham. Some questions I'm trying to firstly properly indentify Leslie Burgham. Can anybody find, or does anybody know of, another Leslie Burgham? Is it possible to find the exact wedding date of the Leslie Arthur marriage in Liverpool in 1924? Where would the best place place to obtain a certificate for it? Does anybody have anymore information on a Lovells sweet factory in Liverpool if indeed there was one? Kind regards Pete Some Keywords for those searching in the future GF Lovells G.F. Lovells Toffee Rex the king of toffees On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 12:53:47 -0000, LiverpoolLady <[email protected]> wrote: > Welcome Pete...pull up a chair and tell us all about yourself. Lesley Ü > > All mail scanned No trees were killed in the sending of this message, but a > large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Marged > > We have a new member, Pete, and I'd like to welcome him to the list. 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