Ricky Cooper wrote on this list in May 2007 (see below) :- >I also have a picture of "Turk" Armitage taken with the lifeboat crew >before Thomas Dodd's funeral in 1916. Anyone with this man in their family tree might be interested to know of a remarkable co-incidence I happened to stumble acrosss whilst transcribing one the Anglesey East Marriage Registers erlier today. The 'Turk' in Ricky's photograph is believed to be Hoylake fisherman Joshua ARMITAGE (b1860 Hoose), who married Ann Eliza JOB from Caernarvon in 1882 and had four children born in Hoylake plus one (Daniel) born 1891 in Rhostryfan, Caernarvonshire. Daniel ARMITAGE married firstly Amelia May BECK (b1890 Hoose) in 1917 in Hoylake Holy Trinity, and after her untimely death in 1923 re-married Evelyn THYNNE (otherwise GABRIEL) in 1928 in Liverpool. This second marriage patently didn't work out, since the entry I found today reads :- 11 August 1941 Register Office, Llangefni, Anglesey Daniel ARMITAGE, age 49, the divorced husband of Evelyn ARMITAGE formerly THYNNE, occupation able seaman war department, residence 45 High Street, Menai Bridge, Llandysilio, father Joshua ARMITAGE, fisherman (retired), and Eva TURK, age 34, spinster, residence 45 High Street, Menai Bridge, Llandysilio, father Walter TURK, occupation railway goods guard. D'you suppose Daniel's choice for his third wife was at all influenced by his father's nickname? Regards Gordon From: Rcc1934@aol.com Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] Hoylake Lifeboat Mystery Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 12:14:07 EDT Hi Von, I have a picture of Thomas Dodd, taken on Hoylake beach during the winter of 1897. He would have been about 37 years old. Unfortunately he has a full black beard, which makes it difficult to compare him with the oil painting. I also have a picture of "Turk" Armitage taken with the lifeboat crew before Thomas Dodd's funeral in 1916. The picture I have of John Bird is so indistinct - it cannot be considered. This picture must be before John's retirement in 1890. For my money, I would say the painting is that of Thomas Dodd. In 1902 as Coxwain he was presented with the RNLI silver medal, he also accepted a diploma on behalf of his crew from the Imperial Russian Lifeboat Society. If the picture is dated 1902, it would point to Thomas Dodd. Ricky Cooper.