Hi Gordon, Many thanks for the details on John Evans who was farming in Barnston. It was more than probably this gentleman who witnessed Robert Silcock's will. Frankly, I'm struggling to identify much about John and Hannah (nee Silcock) Davies. They married 2 February 1792 at St. Bridget's, West Kirby. I can see a baptism at Woodchurch for a Philip Davies, son of John and Hannah Davies of Barnston on 16 April 1797, and not much else, and yet they were well favoured in Robert Silcock's 1817 will. Maybe they stayed on the farm with him until his death. I'm curious as to why daughter Elizabeth Silcock only received a shilling. Maybe she had already had a settlement at her marriage, but who did she marry? Still beavering away trying to sort it all out. Kind regards, Von Of Gordon Evans Sent: 14 January 2011 11:37 To: eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] Robert Silcock's will dated 21st May 1817 Yvonne wrote :- >Please, can you identify any of the witnesses in the extended family? He's not in my direct line, Von, but I do in fact have in my extended tree a John EVANS who was farming in Barnston from around 1808 until at least 1827, when his youngest daughter Ellen was baptised in Woodchurch Holy Cross. He's believed to have been born 1770/1 somewhere in Cheshire (died in1842, aged 71), so would have been aged around 47 when Robert SILCOCK's will was witnessed in 1817? Ellen EVANS (b1827 Barnston) married my 4th cousin 3 times removed William LEDDER (b1826 Wallasey) in 1850 in Liverpool St Martin and had four children all born in Liverpool. Don't recognise either of the other witnesses viz Joseph PEERS or John COOKSON, though - nor, for that matter the son-in-law John DAVIES. Can you perhaps help with this last one? Best regards Gordon

Hi Von no further info thought I'd found a daughter Ann bap Neston 6 Dec 1797 (only 3/4 miles away from Barnston) but 2 babies in 8 months is stretching it a bit? Philip appears on 1841 and 1861 census cannot find him on 1851 1841 HO107/128/17 Res: Thingwall Farmer - A Catherine KEMP aged 80 appears with him on census 1861 RG9; Piece: 2638; Folio: 22; Page: 10 Lodger with William and Ann HEMP aged 71 and 62 Res: Thingwall Not sure what the link with these Kemp/Hemps are but we have a link early 1700s with the WHARTONS Pam "Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a good looking and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, shouting - Wow! What a ride!" -----Original Message----- From: eng-merseyside-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-merseyside-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of YvonnePurdy Sent: 14 January 2011 6:52 PM To: eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] Robert Silcock's will dated 21st May 1817 Hi Gordon, Many thanks for the details on John Evans who was farming in Barnston. It was more than probably this gentleman who witnessed Robert Silcock's will. Frankly, I'm struggling to identify much about John and Hannah (nee Silcock) Davies. They married 2 February 1792 at St. Bridget's, West Kirby. I can see a baptism at Woodchurch for a Philip Davies, son of John and Hannah Davies of Barnston on 16 April 1797, and not much else, and yet they were well favoured in Robert Silcock's 1817 will. Maybe they stayed on the farm with him until his death. I'm curious as to why daughter Elizabeth Silcock only received a shilling. Maybe she had already had a settlement at her marriage, but who did she marry? Still beavering away trying to sort it all out. Kind regards, Von Of Gordon Evans Sent: 14 January 2011 11:37 To: eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] Robert Silcock's will dated 21st May 1817 Yvonne wrote :- >Please, can you identify any of the witnesses in the extended family? He's not in my direct line, Von, but I do in fact have in my extended tree a John EVANS who was farming in Barnston from around 1808 until at least 1827, when his youngest daughter Ellen was baptised in Woodchurch Holy Cross. He's believed to have been born 1770/1 somewhere in Cheshire (died in1842, aged 71), so would have been aged around 47 when Robert SILCOCK's will was witnessed in 1817? Ellen EVANS (b1827 Barnston) married my 4th cousin 3 times removed William LEDDER (b1826 Wallasey) in 1850 in Liverpool St Martin and had four children all born in Liverpool. Don't recognise either of the other witnesses viz Joseph PEERS or John COOKSON, though - nor, for that matter the son-in-law John DAVIES. Can you perhaps help with this last one? Best regards Gordon ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-MERSEYSIDE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message