Ray, It went to the list, so yes everyone received it. However, if you notice, although it says there is an attachment, there is not an attachment because Rootsweb only allows plain text on the lists. Oh, and I cut out the email that you resent to the list so that it is not sent to the list three times. Hope this helps! Lainee -------------------------------------------------- From: "RAY JONES" <nantwich@istar.ca> Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2010 11:36 AM To: <eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com> Subject: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] Fw: [Norton AntiSpam] rootsweb.com accountnotification > Has anyone else received an e mail similar to the one I received below > purporting to have originated with rootsweb? > Ray Jones

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Pam wrote :- >First child Mary E GILMER born 1853 Tranmere >Mary (1853) married John KAYE (transcribed BMD KAY) Mar qtr 1872 Birkenhead The marriage was in fact on 11 February 1872 in Birkenhead St Mary, groom's father being given as Samuel KAY (search.labs). John's parents appear to have been Samuel KEY and Maria PLETTS, who married somewhere in Liverpool in 1838, John probably being the two-month old infant listed here :- 1851 Census HO 107/2175 folio 900 page 6 Albert Place, Tranmere Samuel KEY, 35, boatman, CHS Tranmere Maria, wife, 39, CHS Beamwell Elizabeth, daur, 7, CHS Tranmere Samuel, son, 5, CHS Tranmere Thomas, son, 3, CHS Tranmere William, son, 2, CHS Tranmere Infant, son, 2 months, CHS Tranmere. Maria looks to have died in 1855, aged 39 (Cheshire BMD). I have Samuel senior as born 1817 in Tranmere, baptised 13 July 1817 in Bebington St Andrew, son of Thomas & Elizabeth KAY. Samuel appears to have had a sibling James KAY, baptised 27 December 1812 in Bebington St Andrew, who married a Ruth Ann from Greinton, Somerset. In 1855, in Liverpool, James & Ruth Ann's eldest daughter Elizabeth KAY married Henry HIGHTON - younger brother to the Mary HIGHTON who married Thomas GILMER in 1850. Henry and Elizabeth (nee KAY) had the following HIGHTON children all born in Tranmere :- 1856 Thomas James (m Dora GIBBONS 1877 Liverpool St Nicholas) 1860 Richard (m Agnes BAIRD 1884 Kirkdale St Mary) 1871 John (m Margaret from London c1891) 1872 Elizabeth Ann (m John James GREEN 1892 Liverpool St Peter) 1876 William Henry (m Alice LYONS 1899 Birkenhead Civil) Henry HIGHTON looks to have died in 1897, aged 62; Elizabeth HIGHTON in 1902, aged 68 (reported as 63 in both Cheshire BMD/Free BMD). If I'm correct with all the above then Mary Elizabeth GILMER would have been niece by marriage to her husband John KAY's first cousin? Regards Gordon From: "Pam Craven" <pamcraven@btinternet.com> To: <eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 4:31 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] Mary HIGHTON (b1831 Liverpool) >Hi Gordon/Eleanor >Thomas transcribed as GEIMER on 1871 living 31 Queen Street Tranmere, wife >Mary nee HIGHTON transcribed as May >1871 RG10/3751 Folio 18 page 30 >Thomas GEIMER (GILMER) Head Mar age 42 Plasterer Tranmere CHS >May (Mary wife Mar 40 Liverpool LAN >Emily dau 10 Scholar Tanmere CHS >John son 3 Tranmere CHS >Thomas 2 mths Tranmere CHS >1881 Thomas widower still living 31 Queen Street >I have tried every which way to find them in 1861 but no luck >First child Mary E GILMER born 1853 Tranmere >Mary (1853) married John KAYE (transcribed BMD KAY) Mar qtr 1872 >Birkenhead >Children all born Tranmere >Samuel 1872 >John 1877 >Emily 1877 >This is as much as I have found so far, hope it helps. I am interested in >the court case details? >Pam

Gday Gordon I did know about Liverpool RO being closed but i thought maybe somebody may own the film or fiche,It is Robert Seabrook(e) not John i am looking for. Bert in Oz ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gordon Evans" <gordon.w.evans@btinternet.com> To: <eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 8:47 PM Subject: [SPAM] Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] lookup please > Hi Bert > > I'm afraid look-ups in the Liverpool RO are out of the question for the > foreseeable future - see http://url.ie/6yoj > > I did in fact post a 'warning' re the impending redevelopment work on this > list on 18 June 2005 :- > > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/ENG-MERSEYSIDE/2010-06/1276849500 > > Regards > Gordon > > From: "Herbert Seabrooke" <lapool@alphalink.com.au> > To: <eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 3:51 AM > Subject: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] lookup please > >>Gday list >>Will some kind soul have a look at Old Church School Moorefields 1850-60 >>for a John >and Mary Seabrook(e) . >>Thanks in advance >>Bert in Oz > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-MERSEYSIDE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

Hi Pam You wrote :- >If you can send me 'criminal' images etc then next time I am in Chester I >will try and look them up. Had you perhaps forgotten that the England & Wales Criminal Registers 1791-1892 are available on-line to Ancestry subscribers? You found a James SHERLOCK b1828 there, sentenced to death for bestiality, some eleven months ago? Regards Gordon From: "Pam Craven" <pamcraven@btinternet.com> To: <eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 9:43 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] Mary HIGHTON (b1831 Liverpool) >Hi Eleanor >If you can send me 'criminal' images etc then next time I am in Chester I >will try and look them up. >Thanks >Pam > From: eng-merseyside-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:eng-merseyside-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Preulet@aol.com > Sent: 28 July 2010 6:08 PM > To: eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] Mary HIGHTON (b1831 Liverpool) > > Hi Pam > > The criminal record shows only what I wrote except that Gilmer's residence > is from Cheshire, but I can't see any more than that. There is another > occurrence in 1847 under Thos. Gilmore age 17. I can send you the images > off list if you like. > > That is a good find on 1871 census, I would never have thought that > spelling. I'm impressed. I see it now. > > Mary Highton Gilmer died 2nd q 1874 and Thomas Gilmer looks to have died > 3rd > q 1882 Birkenhead. > > Yes, I did see the Mary Elizabeth Gilmer marriage to John Kaye. > > Thanks for sharing to both you and Gordon > > Eleanor > > > In a message dated 7/28/2010 11:31:56 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > pamcraven@btinternet.com writes: > > Hi Gordon/Eleanor > > Thomas transcribed as GEIMER on 1871 living 31 Queen Street Tranmere, > wife > Mary nee HIGHTON transcribed as May > > 1871 RG10/3751 Folio 18 page 30 > > Thomas GEIMER (GILMER) Head Mar age 42 Plasterer Tranmere CHS May (Mary > wife Mar 40 Liverpool LAN Emily dau 10 Scholar Tanmere CHS John son 3 > Tranmere CHS Thomas 2 mths Tranmere CHS > > 1881 Thomas widower still living 31 Queen Street > > I have tried every which way to find them in 1861 but no luck > > First child Mary E GILMER born 1853 Tranmere > > Mary (1853) married John KAYE (transcribed BMD KAY) Mar qtr 1872 > Birkenhead > Children all born Tranmere Samuel 1872 John 1877 Emily 1877 > > This is as much as I have found so far, hope it helps. I am interested > in > the court case details? > > Pam > > "Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely > in a good looking and well preserved body, but rather to skid in > broadside, > thoroughly used up, totally worn out, shouting - Wow! What a ride!" > > -----Original Message----- > From: eng-merseyside-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:eng-merseyside-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Preulet@aol.com > Sent: 28 July 2010 2:50 PM > To: eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] Mary HIGHTON (b1831 Liverpool) > > Hi Gordon, > > Pam may or may not have had the misfortune of not receiving her private > email :-( but it sure turned into good fortune for me to get this new > info > :-) > > The Highton's sure are a hard lot to find on the censuses. Even Gilmer > I > can't locate in 1861/1871 but I'll keep searching. Am wondering if this > Thomas Gilmer is the same one imprisoned Aug 15 1853 Chester Cty > 6 weeks for larceny, probably not since it is different county. > > Have a good day > Eleanor > > > In a message dated 7/27/2010 3:04:01 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > gordon.w.evans@btinternet.com writes: > > Hi Pam > > Talking of mail problems, wondered if you'd received the following > e-mail > from me, which I sent privately to you and Von on 3rd July? :- > > 'Not sure if you've got this one, which I managed to sight in the > Liverpool > RO on Thursday, just days before it closes for a two-year make-over :- > > Marriage > 1 July 1850 > Liverpool St Nicholas > Thomas GILMER, full age, bachelor, plasterer, Ray Street, father William > GILMER, mariner, and Mary HIGHTON, minor, spinster, Ray Street, father > Henry HIGHTON, porter. > Witnesses were Samuel SHERLOCK and Martha Jane CLARK. > > Mary believed to be a daughter of Elizabeth SHERLOCK (b1796 Caldy), so > your > first cousin 4 times removed?' > > Regards > Gordon > > From: "Pam Craven" <pamcraven@btinternet.com> > To: <eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 2:57 PM > Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] (no subject) > >>Hi Gordon that is why we all need to be vigilant and not open up >>something without an explanation and that looks genuine. I expect >>these lists are easy targets. :( Pam

Hi George I know we have tried to connect them in the past but I haven't found the link .....yet! Pam "Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a good looking and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, shouting - Wow! What a ride!" -----Original Message----- From: eng-merseyside-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-merseyside-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of GEORGE HIGHTON Sent: 28 July 2010 5:58 PM To: eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] Mary HIGHTON (b1831 Liverpool) Hi Eleanor (The Hightons are a hard lot to find ) Tell me about it !!! I think Mary is one of mine but trying to connect her is difficult I have Marys, Eleanors,thomas and Henry  in my branch Cheers George --- On Wed, 28/7/10, Preulet@aol.com <Preulet@aol.com> wrote: From: Preulet@aol.com <Preulet@aol.com> Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] Mary HIGHTON (b1831 Liverpool) To: eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com Date: Wednesday, 28 July, 2010, 14:50 Hi Gordon, Pam may or may not have had the misfortune of not receiving her  private email :-(  but it sure turned into good fortune for me to get this  new info :-) The Highton's sure are a hard lot to find on the censuses.  Even  Gilmer I can't locate in 1861/1871 but I'll keep searching. Am wondering  if  this Thomas Gilmer is the same one imprisoned Aug 15 1853 Chester  Cty 6 weeks for larceny, probably not since it is different county. Have a good day Eleanor In a message dated 7/27/2010 3:04:01 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, gordon.w.evans@btinternet.com writes: Hi  Pam Talking of mail problems, wondered if you'd received the following  e-mail from me, which I sent privately to you and Von on 3rd July?   :- 'Not sure if you've got this one, which I managed to sight in the  Liverpool RO on Thursday, just days before it closes for a two-year  make-over :- Marriage 1 July 1850 Liverpool St Nicholas Thomas  GILMER, full age, bachelor, plasterer, Ray Street, father William GILMER,  mariner, and Mary HIGHTON, minor, spinster, Ray Street, father Henry  HIGHTON, porter. Witnesses were Samuel SHERLOCK and Martha Jane  CLARK. Mary believed to be a daughter of Elizabeth SHERLOCK (b1796  Caldy), so your first cousin 4 times  removed?' Regards Gordon From: "Pam Craven"  <pamcraven@btinternet.com> To:  <eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 2:57  PM Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] (no subject) >Hi Gordon that is  why we all need to be vigilant and not open up >something without an  explanation and that looks genuine. I expect >these lists  are easy targets.  :( Pam ------------------------------- To unsubscribe  from the list, please send an email to ENG-MERSEYSIDE-request@rootsweb.com  with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of  the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-MERSEYSIDE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-MERSEYSIDE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Eleanor If you can send me 'criminal' images etc then next time I am in Chester I will try and look them up. Thanks Pam "Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a good looking and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, shouting - Wow! What a ride!" -----Original Message----- From: eng-merseyside-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-merseyside-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Preulet@aol.com Sent: 28 July 2010 6:08 PM To: eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] Mary HIGHTON (b1831 Liverpool) Hi Pam The criminal record shows only what I wrote except that Gilmer's residence is from Cheshire, but I can't see any more than that. There is another occurrence in 1847 under Thos. Gilmore age 17. I can send you the images off list if you like. That is a good find on 1871 census, I would never have thought that spelling. I'm impressed. I see it now. Mary Highton Gilmer died 2nd q 1874 and Thomas Gilmer looks to have died 3rd q 1882 Birkenhead. Yes, I did see the Mary Elizabeth Gilmer marriage to John Kaye. Thanks for sharing to both you and Gordon Eleanor In a message dated 7/28/2010 11:31:56 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, pamcraven@btinternet.com writes: Hi Gordon/Eleanor Thomas transcribed as GEIMER on 1871 living 31 Queen Street Tranmere, wife Mary nee HIGHTON transcribed as May 1871 RG10/3751 Folio 18 page 30 Thomas GEIMER (GILMER) Head Mar age 42 Plasterer Tranmere CHS May (Mary wife Mar 40 Liverpool LAN Emily dau 10 Scholar Tanmere CHS John son 3 Tranmere CHS Thomas 2 mths Tranmere CHS 1881 Thomas widower still living 31 Queen Street I have tried every which way to find them in 1861 but no luck First child Mary E GILMER born 1853 Tranmere Mary (1853) married John KAYE (transcribed BMD KAY) Mar qtr 1872 Birkenhead Children all born Tranmere Samuel 1872 John 1877 Emily 1877 This is as much as I have found so far, hope it helps. I am interested in the court case details? Pam "Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a good looking and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, shouting - Wow! What a ride!" -----Original Message----- From: eng-merseyside-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-merseyside-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Preulet@aol.com Sent: 28 July 2010 2:50 PM To: eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] Mary HIGHTON (b1831 Liverpool) Hi Gordon, Pam may or may not have had the misfortune of not receiving her private email :-( but it sure turned into good fortune for me to get this new info :-) The Highton's sure are a hard lot to find on the censuses. Even Gilmer I can't locate in 1861/1871 but I'll keep searching. Am wondering if this Thomas Gilmer is the same one imprisoned Aug 15 1853 Chester Cty 6 weeks for larceny, probably not since it is different county. Have a good day Eleanor In a message dated 7/27/2010 3:04:01 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, gordon.w.evans@btinternet.com writes: Hi Pam Talking of mail problems, wondered if you'd received the following e-mail from me, which I sent privately to you and Von on 3rd July? :- 'Not sure if you've got this one, which I managed to sight in the Liverpool RO on Thursday, just days before it closes for a two-year make-over :- Marriage 1 July 1850 Liverpool St Nicholas Thomas GILMER, full age, bachelor, plasterer, Ray Street, father William GILMER, mariner, and Mary HIGHTON, minor, spinster, Ray Street, father Henry HIGHTON, porter. Witnesses were Samuel SHERLOCK and Martha Jane CLARK. Mary believed to be a daughter of Elizabeth SHERLOCK (b1796 Caldy), so your first cousin 4 times removed?' Regards Gordon From: "Pam Craven" <pamcraven@btinternet.com> To: <eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 2:57 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] (no subject) >Hi Gordon that is why we all need to be vigilant and not open up >something without an explanation and that looks genuine. I expect >these lists are easy targets. :( Pam ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-MERSEYSIDE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-MERSEYSIDE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-MERSEYSIDE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-MERSEYSIDE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Eleanor (The Hightons are a hard lot to find ) Tell me about it !!! I think Mary is one of mine but trying to connect her is difficult I have Marys, Eleanors,thomas and Henry  in my branch Cheers George --- On Wed, 28/7/10, Preulet@aol.com <Preulet@aol.com> wrote: From: Preulet@aol.com <Preulet@aol.com> Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] Mary HIGHTON (b1831 Liverpool) To: eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com Date: Wednesday, 28 July, 2010, 14:50 Hi Gordon, Pam may or may not have had the misfortune of not receiving her  private email :-(  but it sure turned into good fortune for me to get this  new info :-) The Highton's sure are a hard lot to find on the censuses.  Even  Gilmer I can't locate in 1861/1871 but I'll keep searching. Am wondering  if  this Thomas Gilmer is the same one imprisoned Aug 15 1853 Chester  Cty 6 weeks for larceny, probably not since it is different county. Have a good day Eleanor In a message dated 7/27/2010 3:04:01 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  gordon.w.evans@btinternet.com writes: Hi  Pam Talking of mail problems, wondered if you'd received the following  e-mail from me, which I sent privately to you and Von on 3rd July?   :- 'Not sure if you've got this one, which I managed to sight in the  Liverpool RO on Thursday, just days before it closes for a two-year  make-over :- Marriage 1 July 1850 Liverpool St Nicholas Thomas  GILMER, full age, bachelor, plasterer, Ray Street, father William GILMER,  mariner, and Mary HIGHTON, minor, spinster, Ray Street, father Henry  HIGHTON, porter. Witnesses were Samuel SHERLOCK and Martha Jane  CLARK. Mary believed to be a daughter of Elizabeth SHERLOCK (b1796  Caldy), so your first cousin 4 times  removed?' Regards Gordon From: "Pam Craven"  <pamcraven@btinternet.com> To:  <eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 2:57  PM Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] (no subject) >Hi Gordon that is  why we all need to be vigilant and not open up something >without an  explanation and that looks genuine. I expect these lists  are >easy >targets.  :( >Pam ------------------------------- To unsubscribe  from the list, please send an email to ENG-MERSEYSIDE-request@rootsweb.com  with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of  the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-MERSEYSIDE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Gordon/Eleanor Thomas transcribed as GEIMER on 1871 living 31 Queen Street Tranmere, wife Mary nee HIGHTON transcribed as May 1871 RG10/3751 Folio 18 page 30 Thomas GEIMER (GILMER) Head Mar age 42 Plasterer Tranmere CHS May (Mary wife Mar 40 Liverpool LAN Emily dau 10 Scholar Tanmere CHS John son 3 Tranmere CHS Thomas 2 mths Tranmere CHS 1881 Thomas widower still living 31 Queen Street I have tried every which way to find them in 1861 but no luck First child Mary E GILMER born 1853 Tranmere Mary (1853) married John KAYE (transcribed BMD KAY) Mar qtr 1872 Birkenhead Children all born Tranmere Samuel 1872 John 1877 Emily 1877 This is as much as I have found so far, hope it helps. I am interested in the court case details? Pam "Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a good looking and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, shouting - Wow! What a ride!" -----Original Message----- From: eng-merseyside-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-merseyside-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Preulet@aol.com Sent: 28 July 2010 2:50 PM To: eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] Mary HIGHTON (b1831 Liverpool) Hi Gordon, Pam may or may not have had the misfortune of not receiving her private email :-( but it sure turned into good fortune for me to get this new info :-) The Highton's sure are a hard lot to find on the censuses. Even Gilmer I can't locate in 1861/1871 but I'll keep searching. Am wondering if this Thomas Gilmer is the same one imprisoned Aug 15 1853 Chester Cty 6 weeks for larceny, probably not since it is different county. Have a good day Eleanor In a message dated 7/27/2010 3:04:01 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, gordon.w.evans@btinternet.com writes: Hi Pam Talking of mail problems, wondered if you'd received the following e-mail from me, which I sent privately to you and Von on 3rd July? :- 'Not sure if you've got this one, which I managed to sight in the Liverpool RO on Thursday, just days before it closes for a two-year make-over :- Marriage 1 July 1850 Liverpool St Nicholas Thomas GILMER, full age, bachelor, plasterer, Ray Street, father William GILMER, mariner, and Mary HIGHTON, minor, spinster, Ray Street, father Henry HIGHTON, porter. Witnesses were Samuel SHERLOCK and Martha Jane CLARK. Mary believed to be a daughter of Elizabeth SHERLOCK (b1796 Caldy), so your first cousin 4 times removed?' Regards Gordon From: "Pam Craven" <pamcraven@btinternet.com> To: <eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 2:57 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] (no subject) >Hi Gordon that is why we all need to be vigilant and not open up >something without an explanation and that looks genuine. I expect >these lists are easy targets. :( Pam ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-MERSEYSIDE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-MERSEYSIDE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Pam The criminal record shows only what I wrote except that Gilmer's residence is from Cheshire, but I can't see any more than that. There is another occurrence in 1847 under Thos. Gilmore age 17. I can send you the images off list if you like. That is a good find on 1871 census, I would never have thought that spelling. I'm impressed. I see it now. Mary Highton Gilmer died 2nd q 1874 and Thomas Gilmer looks to have died 3rd q 1882 Birkenhead. Yes, I did see the Mary Elizabeth Gilmer marriage to John Kaye. Thanks for sharing to both you and Gordon Eleanor In a message dated 7/28/2010 11:31:56 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, pamcraven@btinternet.com writes: Hi Gordon/Eleanor Thomas transcribed as GEIMER on 1871 living 31 Queen Street Tranmere, wife Mary nee HIGHTON transcribed as May 1871 RG10/3751 Folio 18 page 30 Thomas GEIMER (GILMER) Head Mar age 42 Plasterer Tranmere CHS May (Mary wife Mar 40 Liverpool LAN Emily dau 10 Scholar Tanmere CHS John son 3 Tranmere CHS Thomas 2 mths Tranmere CHS 1881 Thomas widower still living 31 Queen Street I have tried every which way to find them in 1861 but no luck First child Mary E GILMER born 1853 Tranmere Mary (1853) married John KAYE (transcribed BMD KAY) Mar qtr 1872 Birkenhead Children all born Tranmere Samuel 1872 John 1877 Emily 1877 This is as much as I have found so far, hope it helps. I am interested in the court case details? Pam "Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a good looking and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, shouting - Wow! What a ride!" -----Original Message----- From: eng-merseyside-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-merseyside-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Preulet@aol.com Sent: 28 July 2010 2:50 PM To: eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] Mary HIGHTON (b1831 Liverpool) Hi Gordon, Pam may or may not have had the misfortune of not receiving her private email :-( but it sure turned into good fortune for me to get this new info :-) The Highton's sure are a hard lot to find on the censuses. Even Gilmer I can't locate in 1861/1871 but I'll keep searching. Am wondering if this Thomas Gilmer is the same one imprisoned Aug 15 1853 Chester Cty 6 weeks for larceny, probably not since it is different county. Have a good day Eleanor In a message dated 7/27/2010 3:04:01 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, gordon.w.evans@btinternet.com writes: Hi Pam Talking of mail problems, wondered if you'd received the following e-mail from me, which I sent privately to you and Von on 3rd July? :- 'Not sure if you've got this one, which I managed to sight in the Liverpool RO on Thursday, just days before it closes for a two-year make-over :- Marriage 1 July 1850 Liverpool St Nicholas Thomas GILMER, full age, bachelor, plasterer, Ray Street, father William GILMER, mariner, and Mary HIGHTON, minor, spinster, Ray Street, father Henry HIGHTON, porter. Witnesses were Samuel SHERLOCK and Martha Jane CLARK. Mary believed to be a daughter of Elizabeth SHERLOCK (b1796 Caldy), so your first cousin 4 times removed?' Regards Gordon From: "Pam Craven" <pamcraven@btinternet.com> To: <eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 2:57 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] (no subject) >Hi Gordon that is why we all need to be vigilant and not open up >something without an explanation and that looks genuine. I expect >these lists are easy targets. :( Pam ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-MERSEYSIDE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-MERSEYSIDE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-MERSEYSIDE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Gday list Will some kind soul have a look at Old Church School Moorefields 1850-60 for a John and Mary Seabrook(e) . Thanks in advance Bert in Oz

Hi Bert I'm afraid look-ups in the Liverpool RO are out of the question for the foreseeable future - see http://url.ie/6yoj I did in fact post a 'warning' re the impending redevelopment work on this list on 18 June 2005 :- http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/ENG-MERSEYSIDE/2010-06/1276849500 Regards Gordon From: "Herbert Seabrooke" <lapool@alphalink.com.au> To: <eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 3:51 AM Subject: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] lookup please >Gday list >Will some kind soul have a look at Old Church School Moorefields 1850-60 >for a John >and Mary Seabrook(e) . >Thanks in advance >Bert in Oz

Hi Gordon, Pam may or may not have had the misfortune of not receiving her private email :-( but it sure turned into good fortune for me to get this new info :-) The Highton's sure are a hard lot to find on the censuses. Even Gilmer I can't locate in 1861/1871 but I'll keep searching. Am wondering if this Thomas Gilmer is the same one imprisoned Aug 15 1853 Chester Cty 6 weeks for larceny, probably not since it is different county. Have a good day Eleanor In a message dated 7/27/2010 3:04:01 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, gordon.w.evans@btinternet.com writes: Hi Pam Talking of mail problems, wondered if you'd received the following e-mail from me, which I sent privately to you and Von on 3rd July? :- 'Not sure if you've got this one, which I managed to sight in the Liverpool RO on Thursday, just days before it closes for a two-year make-over :- Marriage 1 July 1850 Liverpool St Nicholas Thomas GILMER, full age, bachelor, plasterer, Ray Street, father William GILMER, mariner, and Mary HIGHTON, minor, spinster, Ray Street, father Henry HIGHTON, porter. Witnesses were Samuel SHERLOCK and Martha Jane CLARK. Mary believed to be a daughter of Elizabeth SHERLOCK (b1796 Caldy), so your first cousin 4 times removed?' Regards Gordon From: "Pam Craven" <pamcraven@btinternet.com> To: <eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 2:57 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] (no subject) >Hi Gordon that is why we all need to be vigilant and not open up something >without an explanation and that looks genuine. I expect these lists are >easy >targets. :( >Pam ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-MERSEYSIDE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Pam Talking of mail problems, wondered if you'd received the following e-mail from me, which I sent privately to you and Von on 3rd July? :- 'Not sure if you've got this one, which I managed to sight in the Liverpool RO on Thursday, just days before it closes for a two-year make-over :- Marriage 1 July 1850 Liverpool St Nicholas Thomas GILMER, full age, bachelor, plasterer, Ray Street, father William GILMER, mariner, and Mary HIGHTON, minor, spinster, Ray Street, father Henry HIGHTON, porter. Witnesses were Samuel SHERLOCK and Martha Jane CLARK. Mary believed to be a daughter of Elizabeth SHERLOCK (b1796 Caldy), so your first cousin 4 times removed?' Regards Gordon From: "Pam Craven" <pamcraven@btinternet.com> To: <eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 2:57 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] (no subject) >Hi Gordon that is why we all need to be vigilant and not open up something >without an explanation and that looks genuine. I expect these lists are >easy >targets. :( >Pam

Hi Marged Sorry if I frightened you with a rather suspect-looking url. It was in fact merely a 'truncated' version of the Rootsweb HM Customs Waterguard List Archives, in full guise :- http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/HM-CUSTOMS-WATERGUARD/2010-07 Gordon From: "Marged" <marged36@btinternet.com> To: <eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 2:58 PM Subject: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] Those suspect mails >I had noticed that David Pontee was a BT customer - I will try and find a >way of reporting this to BT. thank you Gordon >I'm too scared to click on the link you sent, even though I know you >wouldn't send something unsafe deliberately. Where will that link take >me? >Marged

Marged - it's the webmail account that got hacked - and as you probably know BT webmail accounts are run by Yahoo. BT will tell you to talk to Yahoo and Yahoo will either ignore you or send you a completely irrelevant boiler-plate reply. (I tried to get Yahoo to shut down a hacked account that was spamming members of my recycling group and they were just useless) As for those who clicked on the link... I'm not saying that you will definitely have picked up spyware, but it's possible. My husband (who works in IT and is quite knowledgeable about computer security) would probably tell you that the only way to be safe is to reformat your hard disk and start again (and he would also tell you to use Linux, not Windows...). Anti-virus software won't necessarily find malware/spyware, you need something like Spyware Doctor (downloadable from pctools.com) Angelika Marged wrote: > I had noticed that David Pontee was a BT customer - I will try and find a way of reporting this to BT. thank you Gordon > > I'm too scared to click on the link you sent, even though I know you wouldn't send something unsafe deliberately. Where will that link take me? > > Marged > > Hi Marged > > It's not just this list which is affected, as can be seen here :- > http://url.ie/6ycl > > Worryingly for you and I, it would seem that people with btinternet as their > isp are more prone to this type of hacking than most! > > Best regards > Gordon > > From: "Marged" <marged36@btinternet.com> > To: <eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 9:34 AM > Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] (no subject) > > >Thank you for this Angelika - I got three of them and wrote to David > >Pontee about them but I didn't realise they had gone to the list (don't > >know why I didn't realise!) > >You are right - his account has been hacked. > >Marged > > > >This looks suspiciously like someone's webmail account got hacked (I see > >this sort of thing all the time on the mailing lists that I moderate). > >Whatever you do, folks... do NOT click on the links in any of the three > >emails that were posted from David Pontee's address (from IP addresses > >in Moldova, Poland and Croatia respectively, BTW). They are likely to > >take you to web sites that instal key loggers on your machine, and then > >you will be the next people to get hacked. (I have obscured the URL in > >this email) > >Angelika > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-MERSEYSIDE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3030 - Release Date: 07/26/10 19:34:00 > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3030 - Release Date: 07/26/10 19:34:00 > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-MERSEYSIDE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I remember being warned, when I first started e-mailing more than ten years ago, that a mail without anything in the subject line was to be suspected. Seems we should have heeded that warning Marged No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3030 - Release Date: 07/26/10 19:34:00

I had noticed that David Pontee was a BT customer - I will try and find a way of reporting this to BT. thank you Gordon I'm too scared to click on the link you sent, even though I know you wouldn't send something unsafe deliberately. Where will that link take me? Marged Hi Marged It's not just this list which is affected, as can be seen here :- http://url.ie/6ycl Worryingly for you and I, it would seem that people with btinternet as their isp are more prone to this type of hacking than most! Best regards Gordon From: "Marged" <marged36@btinternet.com> To: <eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 9:34 AM Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] (no subject) >Thank you for this Angelika - I got three of them and wrote to David >Pontee about them but I didn't realise they had gone to the list (don't >know why I didn't realise!) >You are right - his account has been hacked. >Marged > >This looks suspiciously like someone's webmail account got hacked (I see >this sort of thing all the time on the mailing lists that I moderate). >Whatever you do, folks... do NOT click on the links in any of the three >emails that were posted from David Pontee's address (from IP addresses >in Moldova, Poland and Croatia respectively, BTW). They are likely to >take you to web sites that instal key loggers on your machine, and then >you will be the next people to get hacked. (I have obscured the URL in >this email) >Angelika ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-MERSEYSIDE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3030 - Release Date: 07/26/10 19:34:00 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3030 - Release Date: 07/26/10 19:34:00

Hi Gordon that is why we all need to be vigilant and not open up something without an explanation and that looks genuine. I expect these lists are easy targets. :( Pam "Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a good looking and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, shouting - Wow! What a ride!" -----Original Message----- From: eng-merseyside-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-merseyside-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Gordon Evans Sent: 27 July 2010 2:54 PM To: eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] (no subject) Hi Marged It's not just this list which is affected, as can be seen here :- http://url.ie/6ycl Worryingly for you and I, it would seem that people with btinternet as their isp are more prone to this type of hacking than most! Best regards Gordon From: "Marged" <marged36@btinternet.com> To: <eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 9:34 AM Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] (no subject) >Thank you for this Angelika - I got three of them and wrote to David >Pontee about them but I didn't realise they had gone to the list (don't >know why I didn't realise!) You are right - his account has been >hacked. >Marged > >This looks suspiciously like someone's webmail account got hacked (I >see this sort of thing all the time on the mailing lists that I moderate). >Whatever you do, folks... do NOT click on the links in any of the three >emails that were posted from David Pontee's address (from IP addresses >in Moldova, Poland and Croatia respectively, BTW). They are likely to >take you to web sites that instal key loggers on your machine, and then >you will be the next people to get hacked. (I have obscured the URL in >this email) Angelika ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-MERSEYSIDE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Marged It's not just this list which is affected, as can be seen here :- http://url.ie/6ycl Worryingly for you and I, it would seem that people with btinternet as their isp are more prone to this type of hacking than most! Best regards Gordon From: "Marged" <marged36@btinternet.com> To: <eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 9:34 AM Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] (no subject) >Thank you for this Angelika - I got three of them and wrote to David >Pontee about them but I didn't realise they had gone to the list (don't >know why I didn't realise!) >You are right - his account has been hacked. >Marged > >This looks suspiciously like someone's webmail account got hacked (I see >this sort of thing all the time on the mailing lists that I moderate). >Whatever you do, folks... do NOT click on the links in any of the three >emails that were posted from David Pontee's address (from IP addresses >in Moldova, Poland and Croatia respectively, BTW). They are likely to >take you to web sites that instal key loggers on your machine, and then >you will be the next people to get hacked. (I have obscured the URL in >this email) >Angelika