Syl - UK wrote :- >Can you tell me how I can get a copy of this census if possible. Unless you can find someone prepared to contravene copyright law (and risk having their own subscription compulsorily terminated) the only way to secure copies of 1911 Census entries at the moment is via one of the payment options on the findmypast website :- http://www.findmypast.co.uk/1911census.jsp >I thought I had put in a subject. You did when you posted the same query on another list yesterday, but when (having received no response) you re-posted it on the Merseyside earlier today you omitted to repeat the Subject line. Regards Gordon From: "sams_nan" <sh001k2186@blueyonder.co.uk> To: <eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2011 4:20 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] (no subject) >Hi Gordon, that info tallies well with the info I already have. Can you >tell >me how I can get a copy of this census if possible. Thanks for the other >info too. I thought I had put in a subject. >Syl - UK >snip >The indications are that the householder is Manx-born James POLLITT, who >in >the 1901 Census was living at 72 Stanley Road, Kirkdale, along with >daughter >Louisa; and the lodgers William and Esther CROPPER (nee POLLITT) who >married >on 12 March 1911 in Liverpool St Timothy. >Incidentally, many listers simply delete messages containing the words 'no >subject' in the Subject heading, this being a favourite ploy of >professional >'spammers'. >A positive Subject line is more likely to produce a positive result. :-) >Best regards > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-MERSEYSIDE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks Gordon - I did remember to change the subject line once but then it slipped by again. It's a good point to remember. I found the Croppers living on their own in Lancaster Street, Kirkdale - no sign of the Pollitts, but perhaps they were away when the census was taken, although it does state "Head of Household" to be Mr Cropper. Very young. Marged Copyright restrictions preclude the reproduction of Find My Past material, but Ancestry's 1911 England Summary Books have a Mr POLLITT + one female living at 60 Lancaster Street, Kirkdale, with two CROPPER lodgers - one male & one female. The indications are that the householder is Manx-born James POLLITT, who in the 1901 Census was living at 72 Stanley Road, Kirkdale, along with daughter Louisa; and the lodgers William and Esther CROPPER (nee POLLITT) who married on 12 March 1911 in Liverpool St Timothy. Incidentally, many listers simply delete messages containing the words 'no subject' in the Subject heading, this being a favourite ploy of professional 'spammers'. A positive Subject line is more likely to produce a positive result. :-) Best regards Gordon From: "sams_nan" <sh001k2186@blueyonder.co.uk> To: <ENG-MERSEYSIDE@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2011 2:47 PM Subject: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] (no subject) >Can anyone confirm if William and Esther Cropper were living at 60 >Lancaster >Road, Liverpool in 1911. I am also hoping that Pollitts were living at >this >address also. >I am trying to establish when William joined the army having married >Esther >one month before this census was taken. Unfortunately, there are many >William Croppers so I am really struggling. >Any help as always would be appreciated. >Kind regards >Syl - UK ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-MERSEYSIDE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.872 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3367 - Release Date: 01/08/11 07:33:00 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.872 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3367 - Release Date: 01/08/11 07:33:00

Robert SILCOCK and Carole WILSON were my 4 x gt. Grandparents and married 4 July 1796 at St. Nicholas, Liverpool. Robert SILCOCK was buried 5 April 1846 at St. Bridget's, West Kirby aged 74, therefore born c.a. 1772. I cannot find a baptism for him in Cprd. I have just sent off for the will of Robert SILCOCK 1817 farmer of Barnston, who appears to have died 25 July 1817 of Barnston, buried Bidston, aged 88, but I wondered, in the meantime, if anyone has any further details of Robert SILCOCK (c1772)? Kind regards, Yvonne

Thanks for your help Marged. I hope I can now take this to the next level of research. Cheers Syl - UK snip > Hi Marged, thanks for the response. Esther was born in 1890 and husband > William was born in 1880. I think Esther's name has been mispelled as > Eshester at some point. Hope this helps. > > > > (snip)> > > > > Can anyone confirm if William and Esther Cropper were living at 60 > > Lancaster

Hi Gordon, that info tallies well with the info I already have. Can you tell me how I can get a copy of this census if possible. Thanks for the other info too. I thought I had put in a subject. Syl - UK snip > > The indications are that the householder is Manx-born James POLLITT, who > in > the 1901 Census was living at 72 Stanley Road, Kirkdale, along with > daughter > Louisa; and the lodgers William and Esther CROPPER (nee POLLITT) who > married > on 12 March 1911 in Liverpool St Timothy. > > Incidentally, many listers simply delete messages containing the words 'no > subject' in the Subject heading, this being a favourite ploy of > professional > 'spammers'. > A positive Subject line is more likely to produce a positive result. :-) > > Best regards

Hello Syl Copyright restrictions preclude the reproduction of Find My Past material, but Ancestry's 1911 England Summary Books have a Mr POLLITT + one female living at 60 Lancaster Street, Kirkdale, with two CROPPER lodgers - one male & one female. The indications are that the householder is Manx-born James POLLITT, who in the 1901 Census was living at 72 Stanley Road, Kirkdale, along with daughter Louisa; and the lodgers William and Esther CROPPER (nee POLLITT) who married on 12 March 1911 in Liverpool St Timothy. Incidentally, many listers simply delete messages containing the words 'no subject' in the Subject heading, this being a favourite ploy of professional 'spammers'. A positive Subject line is more likely to produce a positive result. :-) Best regards Gordon From: "sams_nan" <sh001k2186@blueyonder.co.uk> To: <ENG-MERSEYSIDE@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2011 2:47 PM Subject: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] (no subject) >Can anyone confirm if William and Esther Cropper were living at 60 >Lancaster >Road, Liverpool in 1911. I am also hoping that Pollitts were living at >this >address also. >I am trying to establish when William joined the army having married >Esther >one month before this census was taken. Unfortunately, there are many >William Croppers so I am really struggling. >Any help as always would be appreciated. >Kind regards >Syl - UK

That did help Syl - Eshester is down as living at 60 Lancaster Street Kirkdale in 1911, with her husband William - only the two of them. Marged Hi Marged, thanks for the response. Esther was born in 1890 and husband William was born in 1880. I think Esther's name has been mispelled as Eshester at some point. Hope this helps. (snip)> > > Can anyone confirm if William and Esther Cropper were living at 60 > Lancaster > Road, Liverpool in 1911. I am also hoping that Pollitts were living at > this > address also. > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-MERSEYSIDE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.872 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3367 - Release Date: 01/08/11 07:33:00 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.872 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3367 - Release Date: 01/08/11 07:33:00

Hi Marged, I am not sure if it is Lancaster Road they lived in. But I think they lived in West Derby at this time. Syl - UK (snip) > > > Can anyone confirm if William and Esther Cropper were living at 60 > Lancaster > Road, Liverpool in 1911. I am also hoping that Pollitts were living at > this > address also. > > I am trying to establish when William joined the army having married > Esther > one month before this census was taken. Unfortunately, there are many >

Again, Syl - are we talking about Lancaster Road in the Sefton Park area? I can only find Lancaster Avenue, off Ullet Road, and Lancaster Street, in the Rice Lane/Kirkdale area of Liverpool. this is on the Gore's Directory Marged Can anyone confirm if William and Esther Cropper were living at 60 Lancaster Road, Liverpool in 1911. I am also hoping that Pollitts were living at this address also. I am trying to establish when William joined the army having married Esther one month before this census was taken. Unfortunately, there are many William Croppers so I am really struggling. Any help as always would be appreciated. Kind regards Syl - UK ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-MERSEYSIDE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.872 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3367 - Release Date: 01/08/11 07:33:00 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.872 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3367 - Release Date: 01/08/11 07:33:00

Hi Marged, thanks for the response. Esther was born in 1890 and husband William was born in 1880. I think Esther's name has been mispelled as Eshester at some point. Hope this helps. (snip)> > > Can anyone confirm if William and Esther Cropper were living at 60 > Lancaster > Road, Liverpool in 1911. I am also hoping that Pollitts were living at > this > address also. >

Syl, there is only one Esther Cropper coming up on the 1911 Census and she is living with her husband at 6a Holden Street. Do you have any further information like age etc.? This particular Esther was born 1852 and has been married 37 years, with ten children Marged Can anyone confirm if William and Esther Cropper were living at 60 Lancaster Road, Liverpool in 1911. I am also hoping that Pollitts were living at this address also. I am trying to establish when William joined the army having married Esther one month before this census was taken. Unfortunately, there are many William Croppers so I am really struggling. Any help as always would be appreciated. Kind regards Syl - UK ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-MERSEYSIDE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.872 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3367 - Release Date: 01/08/11 07:33:00 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.872 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3367 - Release Date: 01/08/11 07:33:00

Can anyone confirm if William and Esther Cropper were living at 60 Lancaster Road, Liverpool in 1911. I am also hoping that Pollitts were living at this address also. I am trying to establish when William joined the army having married Esther one month before this census was taken. Unfortunately, there are many William Croppers so I am really struggling. Any help as always would be appreciated. Kind regards Syl - UK

Hello Dorothy If you do manage to contact William & Elizabeth SHERLOCK's descendant, and if he's interested in acquiring a copy of the Flixton SHERLOCK pedigree someone sent me a few years ago, I'll be happy to send this on to him snail-mail if he's prepared to let me have a postal address? Gordon PS. Hope the snow in Llandudno has gone at last? From: "D JONES" <djedoric1958@btinternet.com> To: <eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 07, 2011 8:48 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] Daniel Thomas Hardman >Hello Gordon >It is the descendant of William and Elizabeth who I was in touch with >about eight years ago. He had a lot of info about his Sherlock ancestral >family. If I can locate his email address among my archves I will try to >contact him for you. >Dorothy

Hello Gordon It is the descendant of William and Elizabeth who I was in touch with about eight years ago. He had a lot of info about his Sherlock ancestral family. If I can locate his email address among my archves I will try to contact him for you. Dorothy

Dorothy Jones wrote on 27 December 2010 :- >May I join in with your discussion? Are you still interested in this, or have you perhaps moved on to other things? Regards Gordon From: "Gordon Evans" <gordon.w.evans@btinternet.com> To: <eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 9:44 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] Daniel Thomas Hardman >Hello Dorothy > >It so happens that I have three Pendleton-born SHERLOCKs in my own family >tree, these being children of Neston-born coal-miner Joseph SHERLOCK and >his wife Sarah ASHWORTH, who married on 17 February 1873 in Radcliffe >St Thomas & St John. Joseph is believed to have been the only son of >Hoylake fisherman John SHERLOCK, who died in 1856 at the early age of 25. > >However, it would seem the family you have in mind is the Pendleton-born >William SHERLOCK, who married Elizabeth BRADBURN in 1856 in Eccles St >Mary - >William being a son of another John SHERLOCK, occupation cotton weaver? > >There appear to have been two distinct SHERLOCK lines within a 30-mile >radius in the 1400/1500's, each giving their offspring similar names viz >William, John, Thomas, Richard, Henry, Robert, Joseph & Samuel. One was >based in Oxton in Wirral (from which I myself am descended), the other in >Flixton, Manchester, which I suspect is your own particular line. >Someone very kindly sent me a 'pedigree' of the Flixton SHERLOCKs several >years ago. Will see if I can unearth it once the festive season is over and >the 'guest bedroom' reverts to its former use as my family history research >archive. > >PS. Salford is EAST of Wirral & Liverpool, not further north. :-) >Best regards >Gordon > >From: "D JONES" <djedoric1958@binternet.com> >To: <eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 4:30 PM >Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] Daniel Thomas Hardman > >Hello >May I join in with your discussion? I wonder if you have researched >possible >connections with SHERLOCK and HARDMAN further north in Salford. I have two >families in Pendleton BRADBURN and LORD who are connected with the >SHERLOCKS >and HARDMANS of Pendleton and Salford.. >Dorothy

Eleanor wrote :- >Yes, I had read your interesting post to Dorothy on the Flixton Sherlock >line and Hoylake Boat Disaster although they don't appear to be connected >to my tree (yet) I, my youngest brother George plus several SHERLOCK cousins have been trying unsuccessfully for many years to find a link between our Wirral SHERLOCKs and their Flixton counterparts, if only to be able to lay claim as 'one of ours' the Cornelius SHERLOCK born 1823 in Liverpool, son of Liverpool customs officer Thomas SHERLOCK and his wife Ann Hopley DOD. Cornelius was the architect of many fine buildings still to be seen in Liverpool, including the Picton Library, Walker Art Gallery, No 1 Victoria Street, St Stephen's church in Gateacre and Sandown Park in Wavertree :- http://www.victorianweb.org/art/architecture/liverpool/1.html http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/speel/place/lpoolwmbrown.htm http://www.lookingatbuildings.org.uk/cities/liverpool/victoria-street/no-1-victoria-street.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St_Stephen's_Church,_Liverpool http://www.dhwav.btinternet.co.uk/page42.html Cornelius married vicar's daughter Jane Rebecca CRAWFORD (b1822 IRE Roscommon) on 7th November 1849 in Kirk Onchan, Isle of Man, the couple having just one daughter Clarinda Beatrice SHERLOCK (b1858 Liverpool). Clarinda married merchant's son Reginald Louis ROSS in St Marylebone parish church, London, on 25 June 1884 and had just one son Reginald Sherlock ROSS, born on 6 April 1897 in Quebec, Canada. Reginald Louis was dead by 1901, when widow Clarinda ROSS was living with her widowed mother Jane SHERLOCK + widowed aunt Eleanor GANDELL in Windsor Road, Southport. Clarinda never re-married, dying in Hendon in 1939, aged 80. Reginald Sherlock ROSS died in London in 1970, aged 73. From: <Preulet@aol.com> To: <eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 2:29 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] calling all Sherlock"s >Hi Gordon, >I'm happy to see you agree with me on Samuel SHERLOCK marrying Ann Jane >RILEY and thanks for the insight that >she and Mary Ann Riley are most likely sisters as I have both marriages >within my tree. Unfortunately my research stops there so I know I need to >do >catchup on both sisters marriages into the SHERLOCK family so it gives me >something to look forward to take care of. >I appreciate these additional clues that hopefully will put me on the path >to completing these 2 lines. >Yes, I had read your interesting post to Dorothy on the Flixton Sherlock >line and Hoylake Boat Disaster although they don't appear to be connected >to >my tree (yet) >Warm Regards >Eleanor

Hi Gordon, I hope one day you'll be able to make the Cornelius Sherlock connection with your family. He certainly had a lot of lovely architecture in his portfolio especially the Picton Library and St. Stephen's. Just beautiful, I love looking at old architecture and their sculpted facades so I thank you for sharing these websites. The sculptures are wonderful; so much creativity and knowledge in these pages. I hope to be able to visit Liverpool and Wirral down the road and hopefully walk down the same streets and enter the same churches as my ancestors as well as see these magnificent buildings in person. Be well Eleanor In a message dated 1/4/2011 2:56:09 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, gordon.w.evans@btinternet.com writes: Eleanor wrote :- >Yes, I had read your interesting post to Dorothy on the Flixton Sherlock >line and Hoylake Boat Disaster although they don't appear to be connected >to my tree (yet) I, my youngest brother George plus several SHERLOCK cousins have been trying unsuccessfully for many years to find a link between our Wirral SHERLOCKs and their Flixton counterparts, if only to be able to lay claim as 'one of ours' the Cornelius SHERLOCK born 1823 in Liverpool, son of Liverpool customs officer Thomas SHERLOCK and his wife Ann Hopley DOD. Cornelius was the architect of many fine buildings still to be seen in Liverpool, including the Picton Library, Walker Art Gallery, No 1 Victoria Street, St Stephen's church in Gateacre and Sandown Park in Wavertree :- http://www.victorianweb.org/art/architecture/liverpool/1.html http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/speel/place/lpoolwmbrown.htm http://www.lookingatbuildings.org.uk/cities/liverpool/victoria-street/no-1-v ictoria-street.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St_Stephen's_Church,_Liverpool http://www.dhwav.btinternet.co.uk/page42.html Cornelius married vicar's daughter Jane Rebecca CRAWFORD (b1822 IRE Roscommon) on 7th November 1849 in Kirk Onchan, Isle of Man, the couple having just one daughter Clarinda Beatrice SHERLOCK (b1858 Liverpool). Clarinda married merchant's son Reginald Louis ROSS in St Marylebone parish church, London, on 25 June 1884 and had just one son Reginald Sherlock ROSS, born on 6 April 1897 in Quebec, Canada. Reginald Louis was dead by 1901, when widow Clarinda ROSS was living with her widowed mother Jane SHERLOCK + widowed aunt Eleanor GANDELL in Windsor Road, Southport. Clarinda never re-married, dying in Hendon in 1939, aged 80. Reginald Sherlock ROSS died in London in 1970, aged 73. From: <Preulet@aol.com> To: <eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 2:29 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] calling all Sherlock"s >Hi Gordon, >I'm happy to see you agree with me on Samuel SHERLOCK marrying Ann Jane >RILEY and thanks for the insight that >she and Mary Ann Riley are most likely sisters as I have both marriages >within my tree. Unfortunately my research stops there so I know I need to >do >catchup on both sisters marriages into the SHERLOCK family so it gives me >something to look forward to take care of. >I appreciate these additional clues that hopefully will put me on the path >to completing these 2 lines. >Yes, I had read your interesting post to Dorothy on the Flixton Sherlock >line and Hoylake Boat Disaster although they don't appear to be connected >to >my tree (yet) >Warm Regards >Eleanor ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-MERSEYSIDE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Eleanor The best way to solve this would be to see the marriage certificates and check fathers name. Samuel christened 9th May 1838 is the son of Samuel & Sarah according to the Cheshire Parish record on Familysearch whilst the Samuel born Salford looks to be the son of Thomas & Isabella.. Whilst Thomas isn't at home with Isabella on the 1851 census he is in 1861. I would say that the Samuel who married Lydia is the son of Thomas & Isabella. Andy ----- Original Message ----- From: <Preulet@aol.com> To: <ENG-MERSEYSIDE@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 2:32 PM Subject: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] calling all Sherlock"s > Hi Folks > > I'm having a dispute: > > I believe Samuel Sherlock baptized May 09, 1838 St. Catherine, Tranmere, > Cheshire, England > son of Sarah Davenport is married to Ann Jane Riley on February 28, 1859 > in Liverpool although I can't find a census for 1861 & forward for this > couple. Maybe they emigrated > > My cousin thinks he is married to Lydia Eddowes - I disagree with this > marriage dated Jul 21 1859 because The Samuel Sherlock married to Lydia > shows on all censuses as born in Salford, Lancashire and therefore is the > son > of Isabella > > Who is right? > > Thanks & Happy New Year > Eleanor > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-MERSEYSIDE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Preulet wrote :- >Who is right? I'd say you are, Eleanor, since Samuel & Lydia named their eldest son Thomas (after his grandfather) and another child Richard, after his great-grandfather. Irlam-born grandfather Thomas was baptised on 29 May 1808 in Flixton, son of Richard SHERLOCK and Mary, identifying him as a descendant of the Flixton SHERLOCK branch I mentioned in a response to Dorothy Jones' post on 27 December (subject Daniel Thomas Hardman). The Samuel SHERLOCK b1838 Tranmere, son of Samuel SHERLOCK (b1809 Liverpool) and Sarah DAVENPORT, had a cousin Samuel SHERLOCK (b1831 Birkenhead), son of George Prenton SHERLOCK (b1802 Liverpool) and Rhoda SMITH. On 5 March 1855, in Liverpool St Peter, Samuel b1831 married a Mary Ann RILEY (b1837 Liverpool), daughter of Matthew RILEY and Catherine GRAHAM, who had married on 30 May 1836 in Liverpool St Nicholas. Mary Ann RILEY, baptised on 2 July 1837 in Liverpool St Anthony (RC), had a sibling Ann Jane baptised on 9 June 1839 in the same church. So the indications are that the two Samuel SHERLOCK cousins married two RILEY sisters? Best wishes Gordon From: <Preulet@aol.com> To: <ENG-MERSEYSIDE@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 3:32 AM Subject: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] calling all Sherlock"s >Hi Folks >I'm having a dispute: >I believe Samuel Sherlock baptized May 09, 1838 St. Catherine, Tranmere, >Cheshire, England >son of Sarah Davenport is married to Ann Jane Riley on February 28, 1859 >in Liverpool although I can't find a census for 1861 & forward for this >couple. Maybe they emigrated >My cousin thinks he is married to Lydia Eddowes - I disagree with this >marriage dated Jul 21 1859 because The Samuel Sherlock married to Lydia >shows on all censuses as born in Salford, Lancashire and therefore is the >son >of Isabella >Who is right? >Thanks & Happy New Year >Eleanor

Hi Gordon, I'm happy to see you agree with me on Samuel SHERLOCK marrying Ann Jane RILEY and thanks for the insight that she and Mary Ann Riley are most likely sisters as I have both marriages within my tree. Unfortunately my research stops there so I know I need to do catchup on both sisters marriages into the SHERLOCK family so it gives me something to look forward to take care of. I appreciate these additional clues that hopefully will put me on the path to completing these 2 lines. Yes, I had read your interesting post to Dorothy on the Flixton Sherlock line and Hoylake Boat Disaster although they don't appear to be connected to my tree (yet) Warm Regards Eleanor In a message dated 1/4/2011 5:45:39 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, gordon.w.evans@btinternet.com writes: Preulet wrote :- >Who is right? I'd say you are, Eleanor, since Samuel & Lydia named their eldest son Thomas (after his grandfather) and another child Richard, after his great-grandfather. Irlam-born grandfather Thomas was baptised on 29 May 1808 in Flixton, son of Richard SHERLOCK and Mary, identifying him as a descendant of the Flixton SHERLOCK branch I mentioned in a response to Dorothy Jones' post on 27 December (subject Daniel Thomas Hardman). The Samuel SHERLOCK b1838 Tranmere, son of Samuel SHERLOCK (b1809 Liverpool) and Sarah DAVENPORT, had a cousin Samuel SHERLOCK (b1831 Birkenhead), son of George Prenton SHERLOCK (b1802 Liverpool) and Rhoda SMITH. On 5 March 1855, in Liverpool St Peter, Samuel b1831 married a Mary Ann RILEY (b1837 Liverpool), daughter of Matthew RILEY and Catherine GRAHAM, who had married on 30 May 1836 in Liverpool St Nicholas. Mary Ann RILEY, baptised on 2 July 1837 in Liverpool St Anthony (RC), had a sibling Ann Jane baptised on 9 June 1839 in the same church. So the indications are that the two Samuel SHERLOCK cousins married two RILEY sisters? Best wishes Gordon From: <Preulet@aol.com> To: <ENG-MERSEYSIDE@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 3:32 AM Subject: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] calling all Sherlock"s >Hi Folks >I'm having a dispute: >I believe Samuel Sherlock baptized May 09, 1838 St. Catherine, Tranmere, >Cheshire, England >son of Sarah Davenport is married to Ann Jane Riley on February 28, 1859 >in Liverpool although I can't find a census for 1861 & forward for this >couple. Maybe they emigrated >My cousin thinks he is married to Lydia Eddowes - I disagree with this >marriage dated Jul 21 1859 because The Samuel Sherlock married to Lydia >shows on all censuses as born in Salford, Lancashire and therefore is the >son >of Isabella >Who is right? >Thanks & Happy New Year >Eleanor ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-MERSEYSIDE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message