How awful! Marian ----- Original Message ----- From: "YvonnePurdy" <von@yvonnepurdy.free-online.co.uk> To: <eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2011 12:49 PM Subject: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] John and Henry SILCOCK;John, Job and Joseph RANDALLS > >From the, Liverpool Mercury, Wednesday June 27, 1860: > > MELANCHOLY BOAT ACCIDENT AT HOYLAKE: Four lives lost > > A melancholy accident, which resulted in the sacrifice of four lives took > place on Monday at Hoylake. The > circumstances, as we hear from inquiry, are as follows:- Between twelve > and one o'clock, a party of men and > boys proceeded in a boat to Hoyle Bank, for the purpose of gathering > cockles. There were five persons in the > boat, namely, John Silcock and his son Henry Silcock, a boy about ten > years old; also John Randalls, who had > with him two sons, Job and Joseph. After filling three or four bags with > cockles, the party was returning to > Hoylake, when, in consequence of the state of the weather, three bags of > cockles were thrown overboard. > Immediately afterwards the boat was struck by a squall and capsized, all > the occupants being thrown into the > water. In this emergency Silcock seized hold of his son and struggled > hard to reach the shore with him, but > was unsuccessful in doing so. The father saved himself with difficulty, > and was the only survivor of the > casualty. The body of his son was recovered in the afternoon. Yesterday > morning, the body of Randalls and > his two sons were found on the beach, and the scene in the dwelling of the > bereaved widow is stated to have > been of a most heart-rending description. The poor woman is, as may be > imagined, left in a most destitute > condition consequent on the melancholy accident. Yesterday, an inquest on > the bodies of the sufferers was > held before Mr Churton, the coroner, and after evidence had been received > the jury returned a verdict of > 'Accidentally drowned'. > > Kind regards, > Yvonne > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-MERSEYSIDE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ______________________________________________ > This email has been scanned by Netintelligence > http://www.netintelligence.com/email > > ______________________________________________ This email has been scanned by Netintelligence http://www.netintelligence.com/email

Hi Marian, ok, I've never used that site, I'll add it to list. Many thanks Eleanor In a message dated 1/15/2011 1:42:14 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, marianfoster@mypostoffice.co.uk writes: Hi there, the one I found was Isabella Stocks Derby 7b 912. She only comes up on FreeBMD on her own as Thomas Draycott Hancock is I think mistranscribed to Basford 7b 912. All the best, Marian ----- Original Message ----- From: <Preulet@aol.com> To: <eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2011 4:51 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] HANCOCK, Thomas's son of Jane PARR > Hi Marian, > > Thanks for checking. May I ask where/how you found this -in what town? > You obviously checked something I've missed, unless my search criteria > was > wrong. > > With this last name of STOCKS, I'm now seeing a listing in Derby, > Derbyshire which fits since Thomas married after the 1891 census, > Providing of > course that the name Isabella on census/baptism records is a first name > rather > than a middle name. > > Thanks for your help. > > Regards > Eleanor > > > > > In a message dated 1/15/2011 10:56:45 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, > marianfoster@mypostoffice.co.uk writes: > > Hi Eleanor, There is a marriage in 1893 of Isabella Stocks and since Jane > Parr Hancock's birth is registered 1893 this might be it? All the best, > Marian > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <Preulet@aol.com> > To: <ENG-MERSEYSIDE@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2011 3:03 PM > Subject: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] HANCOCK, Thomas's son of Jane PARR > > >> Hi Folks >> >> I am hoping someone may know/have the full/last name of the wife of : >> >> >> HANCOCK, Thomas bap. February 11, 1849 Thurstaston, Cheshire >> died January 27, 1912 Thurstaston, >> Cheshire >> >> who married sometime after 1891 census to: >> >> Isabella "Bella" ca 1867 Scotland (per census) >> >> having 2 daughters Jane Parr HANCOCK and Margaret HANCOCK >> >> HANCOCK, Thomas is the son of : >> >> >> PARR, Jane bap April 24, 1822, Woodchurch burial September 19, 1881, >> Heswall married >> HANCOCK, Charles bap April 16, 1810 Heswall --- burial June 03, 1858 >> Heswall >> >> Jane PARR was the daughter of Thomas PARR (1780-1871) and Sarah >> POSTLETHWAITE (1783-1857) both of West Kirby >> >> I've already exhausted my usual haunts - Lancashire BMD, Cheshire BMD, >> familysearch pilot, and Ancestry.com for the marriage to no avail. >> >> Thank you & keeping my fingers crossed :-) >> >> Regards >> Eleanor >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ENG-MERSEYSIDE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> ______________________________________________ >> This email has been scanned by Netintelligence >> http://www.netintelligence.com/email >> >> > > > > ______________________________________________ > This email has been scanned by Netintelligence > http://www.netintelligence.com/email > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-MERSEYSIDE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-MERSEYSIDE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ______________________________________________ > This email has been scanned by Netintelligence > http://www.netintelligence.com/email > > ______________________________________________ This email has been scanned by Netintelligence http://www.netintelligence.com/email ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-MERSEYSIDE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Sandra, I have senior moments all the time, Thanks for checking. I'll best have to get one of the children's birth certificates. At least with going for the children, I know I'm not wasting money on an erroneous marriage. Enjoy what's left of your day. Eleanor In a message dated 1/15/2011 12:43:39 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, thedurk@btinternet.com writes: Sorry Eleanor - I meant that there is a marriage of a Thomas HANCOCK in the same year/quarter in Chesterfield but it looks as though he married Catherine PAGE or Ellen Dearden SWINDLE. Senior moment! Sandra ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sandra Durkin" <thedurk@btinternet.com> Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2011 5:33 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] HANCOCK, Thomas's son of Jane PARR I'd be a little cautious about the Isabella STOCKS, Eleanor. This is the detail on FreeBMD Marriages Jun 1893 (>99%) Craddock Clara Derby 7b 912 Hancock Thomas Draycott Basford 7b 912 Meakin Charles William Derby 7b 912 Middleton Henry Derby 7b 912 Stocks Isabella Derby 7b 912 I looked at the image for the Thomas Draycott HANCOCK, and I think the entry is indeed Basford but I think the page number has been mistranscribed, it looks like 312 to me. That would suggest that Isabella STOCKS married Charles MEAKIN or Henry MIDDLETON. There is a marriage of a Thomas DRAYCOTT in Chesterfield in the same year/quarter, but from FreeBMD it looks as though he married either Catherine PAGE or Ellen Dearden SWINDLE. Good luck! Sandra ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-MERSEYSIDE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

>From the, Liverpool Mercury, Wednesday June 27, 1860: MELANCHOLY BOAT ACCIDENT AT HOYLAKE: Four lives lost A melancholy accident, which resulted in the sacrifice of four lives took place on Monday at Hoylake. The circumstances, as we hear from inquiry, are as follows:- Between twelve and one o'clock, a party of men and boys proceeded in a boat to Hoyle Bank, for the purpose of gathering cockles. There were five persons in the boat, namely, John Silcock and his son Henry Silcock, a boy about ten years old; also John Randalls, who had with him two sons, Job and Joseph. After filling three or four bags with cockles, the party was returning to Hoylake, when, in consequence of the state of the weather, three bags of cockles were thrown overboard. Immediately afterwards the boat was struck by a squall and capsized, all the occupants being thrown into the water. In this emergency Silcock seized hold of his son and struggled hard to reach the shore with him, but was unsuccessful in doing so. The father saved himself with difficulty, and was the only survivor of the casualty. The body of his son was recovered in the afternoon. Yesterday morning, the body of Randalls and his two sons were found on the beach, and the scene in the dwelling of the bereaved widow is stated to have been of a most heart-rending description. The poor woman is, as may be imagined, left in a most destitute condition consequent on the melancholy accident. Yesterday, an inquest on the bodies of the sufferers was held before Mr Churton, the coroner, and after evidence had been received the jury returned a verdict of 'Accidentally drowned'. Kind regards, Yvonne

Hi Walter, Boy this board is smoking! Thanks for your leads - so kind of you to check! I'm hoping Marian is correct. I now see the baptism you mention on familysearch if it is in fact the same one. as well as the Scotland census: Parish: Dysart; ED: 14; Page: 30; Line: 8; Roll: CSSCT1871_73; Year: 1871. living with grandparents KIRK. I'll hold on to these for when I get definitive proof. Thank you and Best Wishes Eleanor In a message dated 1/15/2011 11:52:09 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, alsrecs@btopenworld.com writes: Hello Eleanor, If Marian's (M) is correct there is an Isabella STOCKS age 1 on 1871Cs, and a (B) in 1869 both in Dysart, Fife. If correct I can supply more details. Walter (Scotland) --- On Sat, 15/1/11, Marian Foster <marianfoster@mypostoffice.co.uk> wrote: > From: Marian Foster <marianfoster@mypostoffice.co.uk> > Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] HANCOCK, Thomas's son of Jane PARR > To: eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com > Date: Saturday, 15 January, 2011, 15:55 > Hi Eleanor, There is a marriage in > 1893 of Isabella Stocks and since Jane > Parr Hancock's birth is registered 1893 this might be it? > All the best, > Marian > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <Preulet@aol.com> > To: <ENG-MERSEYSIDE@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2011 3:03 PM > Subject: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] HANCOCK, Thomas's son of Jane > PARR > > > > Hi Folks > > > > I am hoping someone may know/have the full/last name > of the wife of : > > > > > > HANCOCK, Thomas bap. February 11, 1849 Thurstaston, > Cheshire > > > > died January 27, > 1912 Thurstaston, > > Cheshire > > > > who married sometime after 1891 census to: > > > > Isabella "Bella" ca 1867 Scotland (per > census) > > > > having 2 daughters Jane Parr HANCOCK and Margaret > HANCOCK > > > > HANCOCK, Thomas is the son of : > > > > > > PARR, Jane bap April 24, 1822, > Woodchurch burial September 19, > 1881, > > Heswall married > > HANCOCK, Charles bap April 16, 1810 > Heswall --- burial June 03, 1858 > > Heswall > > > > Jane PARR was the daughter of Thomas PARR (1780-1871) > and Sarah > > POSTLETHWAITE (1783-1857) both of West Kirby > > > > I've already exhausted my usual haunts - Lancashire > BMD, Cheshire BMD, > > familysearch pilot, and Ancestry.com for the marriage > to no avail. > > > > Thank you & keeping my fingers crossed :-) > > > > Regards > > Eleanor > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > ENG-MERSEYSIDE-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ______________________________________________ > > This email has been scanned by Netintelligence > > http://www.netintelligence.com/email > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________ > > This email has been scanned by Netintelligence > > http://www.netintelligence.com/email > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-MERSEYSIDE-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-MERSEYSIDE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Angelika, Thanks for the lookups. I've been pondering subscribing to Find My Past after my ancestry subscription runs out (march). I've tried them on a free search during the World Cup (thanks Pam) and like them. I have Jane Parr HANCOCK's baptism as well as her sis Margaret and am getting more curious about their mom so most likely will go the GRO route to make sure. Thanks again Best Wishes Eleanor In a message dated 1/15/2011 10:59:14 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, rootsweb@roberts.co.uk writes: I have just tried Findmypast (whose new search tool beats anything offered by any of the other sites) and have drawn a blank there too. Unless someone else finds the marriage I think you may just have to bite the bullet and pay over £9.25 to the GRO for one of the children's birth certificates! Jane Parr Hancock's birth was registered in the Wirral district in the third quarter of 1893, 8a 499 (to save you having to look it up if you haven't already) Angelika On 15/01/2011 15:03, Preulet@aol.com wrote: > Hi Folks > > I am hoping someone may know/have the full/last name of the wife of : > > > HANCOCK, Thomas bap. February 11, 1849 Thurstaston, Cheshire > died January 27, 1912 Thurstaston, Cheshire > > who married sometime after 1891 census to: > > Isabella "Bella" ca 1867 Scotland (per census) > > having 2 daughters Jane Parr HANCOCK and Margaret HANCOCK > > HANCOCK, Thomas is the son of : > > > PARR, Jane bap April 24, 1822, Woodchurch burial September 19, 1881, > Heswall married > HANCOCK, Charles bap April 16, 1810 Heswall --- burial June 03, 1858 > Heswall > > Jane PARR was the daughter of Thomas PARR (1780-1871) and Sarah > POSTLETHWAITE (1783-1857) both of West Kirby > > I've already exhausted my usual haunts - Lancashire BMD, Cheshire BMD, > familysearch pilot, and Ancestry.com for the marriage to no avail. > > Thank you& keeping my fingers crossed :-) > > Regards > Eleanor > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-MERSEYSIDE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-MERSEYSIDE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Marian, Thanks for checking. May I ask where/how you found this -in what town? You obviously checked something I've missed, unless my search criteria was wrong. With this last name of STOCKS, I'm now seeing a listing in Derby, Derbyshire which fits since Thomas married after the 1891 census, Providing of course that the name Isabella on census/baptism records is a first name rather than a middle name. Thanks for your help. Regards Eleanor In a message dated 1/15/2011 10:56:45 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, marianfoster@mypostoffice.co.uk writes: Hi Eleanor, There is a marriage in 1893 of Isabella Stocks and since Jane Parr Hancock's birth is registered 1893 this might be it? All the best, Marian ----- Original Message ----- From: <Preulet@aol.com> To: <ENG-MERSEYSIDE@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2011 3:03 PM Subject: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] HANCOCK, Thomas's son of Jane PARR > Hi Folks > > I am hoping someone may know/have the full/last name of the wife of : > > > HANCOCK, Thomas bap. February 11, 1849 Thurstaston, Cheshire > died January 27, 1912 Thurstaston, > Cheshire > > who married sometime after 1891 census to: > > Isabella "Bella" ca 1867 Scotland (per census) > > having 2 daughters Jane Parr HANCOCK and Margaret HANCOCK > > HANCOCK, Thomas is the son of : > > > PARR, Jane bap April 24, 1822, Woodchurch burial September 19, 1881, > Heswall married > HANCOCK, Charles bap April 16, 1810 Heswall --- burial June 03, 1858 > Heswall > > Jane PARR was the daughter of Thomas PARR (1780-1871) and Sarah > POSTLETHWAITE (1783-1857) both of West Kirby > > I've already exhausted my usual haunts - Lancashire BMD, Cheshire BMD, > familysearch pilot, and Ancestry.com for the marriage to no avail. > > Thank you & keeping my fingers crossed :-) > > Regards > Eleanor > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-MERSEYSIDE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ______________________________________________ > This email has been scanned by Netintelligence > http://www.netintelligence.com/email > > ______________________________________________ This email has been scanned by Netintelligence http://www.netintelligence.com/email ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-MERSEYSIDE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Folks I am hoping someone may know/have the full/last name of the wife of : HANCOCK, Thomas bap. February 11, 1849 Thurstaston, Cheshire died January 27, 1912 Thurstaston, Cheshire who married sometime after 1891 census to: Isabella "Bella" ca 1867 Scotland (per census) having 2 daughters Jane Parr HANCOCK and Margaret HANCOCK HANCOCK, Thomas is the son of : PARR, Jane bap April 24, 1822, Woodchurch burial September 19, 1881, Heswall married HANCOCK, Charles bap April 16, 1810 Heswall --- burial June 03, 1858 Heswall Jane PARR was the daughter of Thomas PARR (1780-1871) and Sarah POSTLETHWAITE (1783-1857) both of West Kirby I've already exhausted my usual haunts - Lancashire BMD, Cheshire BMD, familysearch pilot, and Ancestry.com for the marriage to no avail. Thank you & keeping my fingers crossed :-) Regards Eleanor

Hi Gordon, Many thanks for the details on John Evans who was farming in Barnston. It was more than probably this gentleman who witnessed Robert Silcock's will. Frankly, I'm struggling to identify much about John and Hannah (nee Silcock) Davies. They married 2 February 1792 at St. Bridget's, West Kirby. I can see a baptism at Woodchurch for a Philip Davies, son of John and Hannah Davies of Barnston on 16 April 1797, and not much else, and yet they were well favoured in Robert Silcock's 1817 will. Maybe they stayed on the farm with him until his death. I'm curious as to why daughter Elizabeth Silcock only received a shilling. Maybe she had already had a settlement at her marriage, but who did she marry? Still beavering away trying to sort it all out. Kind regards, Von Of Gordon Evans Sent: 14 January 2011 11:37 To: eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] Robert Silcock's will dated 21st May 1817 Yvonne wrote :- >Please, can you identify any of the witnesses in the extended family? He's not in my direct line, Von, but I do in fact have in my extended tree a John EVANS who was farming in Barnston from around 1808 until at least 1827, when his youngest daughter Ellen was baptised in Woodchurch Holy Cross. He's believed to have been born 1770/1 somewhere in Cheshire (died in1842, aged 71), so would have been aged around 47 when Robert SILCOCK's will was witnessed in 1817? Ellen EVANS (b1827 Barnston) married my 4th cousin 3 times removed William LEDDER (b1826 Wallasey) in 1850 in Liverpool St Martin and had four children all born in Liverpool. Don't recognise either of the other witnesses viz Joseph PEERS or John COOKSON, though - nor, for that matter the son-in-law John DAVIES. Can you perhaps help with this last one? Best regards Gordon

Gordon, I would like to Echo Von's sentiments. "Also, please pass on my many birthday wishes to Dorothy. That's more than wonderful news to start 2011" Ron Fitzpatrick. ======= Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. (Email Guard: 7.0.0.21, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.16700) http://www.pctools.com/ =======

Brilliant! Thankyou, Marian ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marged" <marged36@btopenworld.com> To: "ENG-MERSEYSIDE" <ENG-MERSEYSIDE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 1:20 PM Subject: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] passenger lists 1876 and 1875 > > > > > > On new snippets page > Please support free sites > > http://www.old-merseytimes.co.uk/index.html > Jane > > > > > __._,_.___ > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.872 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3378 - Release Date: 01/13/11 > 19:34:00 > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-MERSEYSIDE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ______________________________________________ > This email has been scanned by Netintelligence > http://www.netintelligence.com/email > > ______________________________________________ This email has been scanned by Netintelligence http://www.netintelligence.com/email

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Yvonne wrote :- >Please, can you identify any of the witnesses in the extended family? He's not in my direct line, Von, but I do in fact have in my extended tree a John EVANS who was farming in Barnston from around 1808 until at least 1827, when his youngest daughter Ellen was baptised in Woodchurch Holy Cross. He's believed to have been born 1770/1 somewhere in Cheshire (died in1842, aged 71), so would have been aged around 47 when Robert SILCOCK's will was witnessed in 1817? Ellen EVANS (b1827 Barnston) married my 4th cousin 3 times removed William LEDDER (b1826 Wallasey) in 1850 in Liverpool St Martin and had four children all born in Liverpool. Don't recognise either of the other witnesses viz Joseph PEERS or John COOKSON, though - nor, for that matter the son-in-law John DAVIES. Can you perhaps help with this last one? Best regards Gordon From: "YvonnePurdy" <von@yvonnepurdy.free-online.co.uk> To: <eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2011 10:57 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] Robert Silcock's will dated 21st May 1817 Hi Gordon, I was a tad delighted to receive this will!! Now I've got a lot of work inputting all the details into my family tree!! Typically, Robert Silcock's c.1771/2 baptism is missing. The good lord certainly makes me work hard to identify my lot:-)), but at least the wills turn up trumps every now and again! I do wonder, 'tho, where are the Silcocks original origins? There don't seem to be many very early on, and I sometimes think, were they interchangeable with Simcocks in the early days? Please, can you identify any of the witnesses in the extended family? Also, please pass on my many birthday wishes to Dorothy. That's more than wonderful news to start 2011. Best regards, Von

Me too - happy birthday Dorothy (or maybe it was yesterday?) Marged Hello Gordon, Von wrote:- "Also, please pass on my many birthday wishes to > Dorothy. That's more than wonderful news to start 2011" May Florence and I join in with birthday wishes to Dorothy? Talking of SILLCOCKS, I only have a few (up to now), one being a Robert :- 1803/4 - 1846. All the best for 2011. Kindest Regards, Florence and Walter. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-MERSEYSIDE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.872 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3377 - Release Date: 01/13/11 07:34:00 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.872 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3377 - Release Date: 01/13/11 07:34:00

Hi Gordon Happy birthday to cousin Dorothy, my next one is 66 so hope I make it too. My uncle Joe BENNETT died just before Christmas funeral Wed I'm hoping to drive up for it. He was 89! Happy New Year to all my SHERLOCK and related relatives. Pam "Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a good looking and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, shouting - Wow! What a ride!" -----Original Message----- From: eng-merseyside-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-merseyside-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Preulet@aol.com Sent: 13 January 2011 11:24 PM To: eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] Robert Silcock's will dated 21st May 1817 Hi Gordon, Just dropping in to wish your wife a very Happy Birthday! God Bless you both. Best Wishes Eleanor In a message dated 1/13/2011 5:41:27 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, gordon.w.evans@btinternet.com writes: Hi Von Brilliant - and many thanks for posting this! Ties up many loose ends in my extended family tree, and seems to identify virtually all the Bidston, West Kirby and Hoylake SILCOCKs as descendants of this line. Isn't it just sod's law, though, that the one name missing from baptisms of children of Robert & Hannah in the CPRP data-base is your ancestor Robert SILCOCK born c1771/2? PS. Wife Dorothy managed to make it to her 66th birthday today. :-) Best Gordon From: "YvonnePurdy" <von@yvonnepurdy.free-online.co.uk> To: <ENG-MERSEYSIDE@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2011 3:42 PM Subject: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] Robert Silcock's will dated 21st May 1817 Hi all, I've just received the will of Robert SILCOCK of Barnston, late Farmer, dated 21 May 1817. Robert SILLCOCK married Hannah NEWPORT on 31 January 1761 at Bidston, and I'm now quite sure they are my 5 x great grandparents. He mentions £10 to his son Robert Silcock, his son Henry Silcock, his daughter Ann Richardson; one shilling to his daughter Elizabeth; all the rest of money and goods to his daughter Hannah for ever, and his son in law John Davies to be the whole and sole executor. Witnesses were Joseph Peers, John Evans and John Cookson. Kind regards, Yvonne ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-MERSEYSIDE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-MERSEYSIDE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Gordon,                        Von wrote:-            "Also, please pass on my many birthday wishes to > Dorothy.  That's more than wonderful news to start 2011" May Florence and I join in with birthday wishes to Dorothy? Talking of SILLCOCKS, I only have a few (up to now), one being a Robert :- 1803/4 - 1846. All the best for 2011. Kindest Regards, Florence and Walter.                

Hi Gordon, I was a tad delighted to receive this will!! Now I've got a lot of work inputting all the details into my family tree!! Typically, Robert Silcock's c.1771/2 baptism is missing. The good lord certainly makes me work hard to identify my lot:-)), but at least the wills turn up trumps every now and again! I do wonder, 'tho, where are the Silcocks original origins? There don't seem to be many very early on, and I sometimes think, were they interchangeable with Simcocks in the early days? Please, can you identify any of the witnesses in the extended family? Also, please pass on my many birthday wishes to Dorothy. That's more than wonderful news to start 2011. Best regards, Von -----Original Message----- From: eng-merseyside-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-merseyside-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Gordon Evans Sent: 13 January 2011 22:44 To: eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] Robert Silcock's will dated 21st May 1817 Hi Von Brilliant - and many thanks for posting this! Ties up many loose ends in my extended family tree, and seems to identify virtually all the Bidston, West Kirby and Hoylake SILCOCKs as descendants of this line. Isn't it just sod's law, though, that the one name missing from baptisms of children of Robert & Hannah in the CPRP data-base is your ancestor Robert SILCOCK born c1771/2? PS. Wife Dorothy managed to make it to her 66th birthday today. :-) Best Gordon From: "YvonnePurdy" <von@yvonnepurdy.free-online.co.uk> To: <ENG-MERSEYSIDE@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2011 3:42 PM Subject: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] Robert Silcock's will dated 21st May 1817 Hi all, I've just received the will of Robert SILCOCK of Barnston, late Farmer, dated 21 May 1817. Robert SILLCOCK married Hannah NEWPORT on 31 January 1761 at Bidston, and I'm now quite sure they are my 5 x great grandparents. He mentions £10 to his son Robert Silcock, his son Henry Silcock, his daughter Ann Richardson; one shilling to his daughter Elizabeth; all the rest of money and goods to his daughter Hannah for ever, and his son in law John Davies to be the whole and sole executor. Witnesses were Joseph Peers, John Evans and John Cookson. Kind regards, Yvonne ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-MERSEYSIDE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Von Brilliant - and many thanks for posting this! Ties up many loose ends in my extended family tree, and seems to identify virtually all the Bidston, West Kirby and Hoylake SILCOCKs as descendants of this line. Isn't it just sod's law, though, that the one name missing from baptisms of children of Robert & Hannah in the CPRP data-base is your ancestor Robert SILCOCK born c1771/2? PS. Wife Dorothy managed to make it to her 66th birthday today. :-) Best Gordon From: "YvonnePurdy" <von@yvonnepurdy.free-online.co.uk> To: <ENG-MERSEYSIDE@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2011 3:42 PM Subject: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] Robert Silcock's will dated 21st May 1817 Hi all, I've just received the will of Robert SILCOCK of Barnston, late Farmer, dated 21 May 1817. Robert SILLCOCK married Hannah NEWPORT on 31 January 1761 at Bidston, and I'm now quite sure they are my 5 x great grandparents. He mentions £10 to his son Robert Silcock, his son Henry Silcock, his daughter Ann Richardson; one shilling to his daughter Elizabeth; all the rest of money and goods to his daughter Hannah for ever, and his son in law John Davies to be the whole and sole executor. Witnesses were Joseph Peers, John Evans and John Cookson. Kind regards, Yvonne

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Hi Gordon, Just dropping in to wish your wife a very Happy Birthday! God Bless you both. Best Wishes Eleanor In a message dated 1/13/2011 5:41:27 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, gordon.w.evans@btinternet.com writes: Hi Von Brilliant - and many thanks for posting this! Ties up many loose ends in my extended family tree, and seems to identify virtually all the Bidston, West Kirby and Hoylake SILCOCKs as descendants of this line. Isn't it just sod's law, though, that the one name missing from baptisms of children of Robert & Hannah in the CPRP data-base is your ancestor Robert SILCOCK born c1771/2? PS. Wife Dorothy managed to make it to her 66th birthday today. :-) Best Gordon From: "YvonnePurdy" <von@yvonnepurdy.free-online.co.uk> To: <ENG-MERSEYSIDE@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2011 3:42 PM Subject: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] Robert Silcock's will dated 21st May 1817 Hi all, I've just received the will of Robert SILCOCK of Barnston, late Farmer, dated 21 May 1817. Robert SILLCOCK married Hannah NEWPORT on 31 January 1761 at Bidston, and I'm now quite sure they are my 5 x great grandparents. He mentions £10 to his son Robert Silcock, his son Henry Silcock, his daughter Ann Richardson; one shilling to his daughter Elizabeth; all the rest of money and goods to his daughter Hannah for ever, and his son in law John Davies to be the whole and sole executor. Witnesses were Joseph Peers, John Evans and John Cookson. Kind regards, Yvonne ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-MERSEYSIDE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message