Thanks Marion, it was really Gordon and George I was speaking to but didn't want it to get out of control! Marged Sorry, I answered before getting the instruction not to. Will stop now. Marian No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.872 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3389 - Release Date: 01/18/11 19:34:00

He definitely did mishear me, Eleanor, mainly because he had probably never heard of Rollo. No, I didn't get them because they were not freely available in the shops for a very long time after this (about 1945/6). Sweets were still on the ration until 1953 -very little available - this was just wishful thinking on my part Marged That's funny! I hope you gave back the rolled oats and got your rollos. He was probably teasing you or maybe misheard you. Have a good night Eleanor No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.872 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3389 - Release Date: 01/18/11 19:34:00

Sorry, I answered before getting the instruction not to. Will stop now. Marian ______________________________________________ This email has been scanned by Netintelligence http://www.netintelligence.com/email

This sounds serious! Marian ----- Original Message ----- From: "GEORGE HIGHTON" <george.highton@btinternet.com> To: <eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 10:29 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] Fw: [Liverpool-Memories] Emigration ofJewishrefugees I spoke up for Gordon and was banned as well (Or rather didn,t want to belong to an orgaisation that banned people with no right of appeal ) Cheers George --- On Tue, 18/1/11, Marian Foster <marianfoster@mypostoffice.co.uk> wrote: From: Marian Foster <marianfoster@mypostoffice.co.uk> Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] Fw: [Liverpool-Memories] Emigration of Jewishrefugees To: eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com Date: Tuesday, 18 January, 2011, 18:31 Hi there, What's that all about? Marian ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gordon Evans" <gordon.w.evans@btinternet.com> To: <eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 4:43 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] Fw: [Liverpool-Memories] Emigration of Jewishrefugees > Marian wrote :- > >>That's impressive Gordon! > > But my 450 year-old association with Liverpool hasn't stopped me being > prevented, for the last five years, from posting on my home town mailing > list by an admin based in Philadelphia, where the Jewish refugees who > passed > through the city in February 1882 were headed. :-( > > Gordon > > From: "Marian Foster" <marianfoster@mypostoffice.co.uk> > To: <eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 11:47 AM > Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] Fw: [Liverpool-Memories] > Emigration of Jewishrefugees > >>That's impressive Gordon! Marian > >>From: "Gordon Evans" <gordon.w.evans@btinternet.com> >>To: <eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com> >>Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 10:54 AM >>Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] Fw: [Liverpool-Memories] Emigration >>of Jewish refugees >> >>Carolyn wrote >>Reminds us all of how central Liverpool has been in the movement of all >>kinds of >>people. >>But by no means everyone has used Liverpool simply as a transit camp, of >>course. >>My ancestor Miles FELLS features in the Liverpool Burgess Roll of 1565 >>and in Liverpool Town Books of the same era. >>And here am I - his 11 x great-grandson - still hanging around the old >>place >>almost 450 years later! :-) >>Gordon >> >>From: "Carolyn Perkes" <cperkes@videotron.ca> >>To: <eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com> >>Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 2:45 AM >>Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] Fw: [Liverpool-Memories] Emigration of >>Jewish >>refugees >>On 16-Jan-11, at 4:39 AM, Marged wrote: >>From Liverpool 1882 >>On new snippets page >>Please support free sites >>http://www.old-merseytimes.co.uk/index.html >>Jane >>Yes thank you both for posting these documents from Liverpool about >>Jewish emigration. I have just started to look into daughter's >>paternal line (part of which is Jewish from Russia, folks fleeing the >>pogroms, and I found one branch at the Ellis Island site who went from >>Odessa via Liverpool to New York). >>It is very challenging trying to find traces. >>The snippets posted here provide very useful context. Reminds us all >>of how central Liverpool has been in the movement of all kinds of >>people. >>Carolyn > > From: "Gordon Evans" <gordon.w.evans@btinternet.com> > To: <eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2011 2:17 PM > Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] Fw: [Liverpool-Memories] > Emigration of Jewishrefugees > >>Hi Marged >>Interesting to see that the 349 Jewish emigrants who left in February 1882 >>on board the steamer ILLINOIS were destined for Philadalephia USA? :-) >>Thanks for posting the link on the Merseyside list. >>Regards >>Gordon >> >>From: "Marged" <marged36@btopenworld.com> >>To: <eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com> >>Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2011 9:48 AM >>Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] Fw: [Liverpool-Memories] Emigration >>of Jewish refugees >> >>So sad, Jane. I read a lot of novels about the Jews in America, and it's >>interesting to know how they managed to make their way there when they had >>so little money >>Marj > > of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-MERSEYSIDE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ______________________________________________ > This email has been scanned by Netintelligence > http://www.netintelligence.com/email > > ______________________________________________ This email has been scanned by Netintelligence http://www.netintelligence.com/email ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-MERSEYSIDE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-MERSEYSIDE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ______________________________________________ This email has been scanned by Netintelligence http://www.netintelligence.com/email ______________________________________________ This email has been scanned by Netintelligence http://www.netintelligence.com/email

>Interesting. Gordon you have managed to get so far back with your ancestors. Can imagine all the work it has taken but part of Lierpool history, Audrey NZ Perhaps quite a lot of them set off for somewhere else, intending to sail from > Liverpool, but either ran out of money (remember that movie "The Informer" > with Victor McLaglen?) or perhaps met someone who kept them there. > > I think my German great grandfather from Hanover may have been on his way but > he ended his days in England - presumably having met his Scottish wife in > Liverpool. Who knows? > > Marged > Carolyn wrote > >> Reminds us all of how central Liverpool has been in the movement of all >> kinds of >> people. > > But by no means everyone has used Liverpool simply as a transit camp, of > course. > My ancestor Miles FELLS features in the Liverpool Burgess Roll of 1565 > and in Liverpool Town Books of the same era. > > And here am I - his 11 x great-grandson - still hanging around the old place > almost 450 years later! :-) > > Gordon > > From: "Carolyn Perkes" <cperkes@videotron.ca> > To: <eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 2:45 AM > Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] Fw: [Liverpool-Memories] Emigration ofJewish > refugees > >> On 16-Jan-11, at 4:39 AM, Marged wrote: >> From Liverpool 1882 >> On new snippets page >> Please support free sites >> http://www.old-merseytimes.co.uk/index.html >> Jane >> >> Yes thank you both for posting these documents from Liverpool about >> Jewish emigration. I have just started to look into daughter's >> paternal line (part of which is Jewish from Russia, folks fleeing the >> pogroms, and I found one branch at the Ellis Island site who went from >> Odessa via Liverpool to New York). >> It is very challenging trying to find traces. >> The snippets posted here provide very useful context. Reminds us all >> of how central Liverpool has been in the movement of all kinds of >> people. >> Carolyn > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-MERSEYSIDE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.872 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3387 - Release Date: 01/17/11 > 19:34:00 > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.872 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3387 - Release Date: 01/17/11 > 19:34:00 > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-MERSEYSIDE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This mention of the Huntingtons of Liverpool brings back many happy memories for me as I used to live close by their bakery and I can smell that bread now! Remember going into the shop at the end of WW2 and asking for a packet of Rollos (chocolate toffees, in case you don't know). Someone must have given me one - they were new, and sweets had been in very short supply. I was thrilled when Mr Huntington said "Yes, certainly" and reached behind the counter - but handed me a packed of ROLLED OATS (cereal/porridge). Marged (formerly of Edge Lane, Liverpool 7) Forgive me for becoming anecdotal! Hi Eleanor Wondered if you'd ever been in touch with Elaine Rosenberg in Queensland Australia (hopefully not under too much water just now!) who posted on this list for a while a few years ago, viz :- http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/eng-merseyside/2007-01/1169983092 HUNTINGTON from Wirral & Liverpool being her family line, could she perhaps have snapped up the pics advertised on E-bay in 2005? Regards Gordon From: <Preulet@aol.com> To: <eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 11:28 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] HANCOCK, Thomas's son of Jane PARR >Hi Gordon, >Well I must say the Saladin story was an interesting read on a dreary rainy >day. >But on a sad note, I perused the Liverpool message board mentioned in a >previous email. >You can imagine the dismay I felt upon keying in HUNTINGTON only to find in >a 2005 post that a photo album containing many of my family's photos was >up for sale on ebay. I called ebay to see if they would say had it been >sold and if yes/no would they contact the seller to no avail. I hope it >was >salvaged by a family member. So sad - too bad I missed out. That's me >Johnny-come-lately. Oh well.... >Have a good night! >Eleanor ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-MERSEYSIDE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.872 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3388 - Release Date: 01/18/11 07:34:00 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.872 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3388 - Release Date: 01/18/11 07:34:00

Hi Eleanor Wondered if you'd ever been in touch with Elaine Rosenberg in Queensland Australia (hopefully not under too much water just now!) who posted on this list for a while a few years ago, viz :- http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/eng-merseyside/2007-01/1169983092 HUNTINGTON from Wirral & Liverpool being her family line, could she perhaps have snapped up the pics advertised on E-bay in 2005? Regards Gordon From: <Preulet@aol.com> To: <eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 11:28 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] HANCOCK, Thomas's son of Jane PARR >Hi Gordon, >Well I must say the Saladin story was an interesting read on a dreary rainy >day. >But on a sad note, I perused the Liverpool message board mentioned in a >previous email. >You can imagine the dismay I felt upon keying in HUNTINGTON only to find in >a 2005 post that a photo album containing many of my family's photos was >up for sale on ebay. I called ebay to see if they would say had it been >sold and if yes/no would they contact the seller to no avail. I hope it >was >salvaged by a family member. So sad - too bad I missed out. That's me >Johnny-come-lately. Oh well.... >Have a good night! >Eleanor

Hi Eleanor my understanding of this is that the New Constellation was built using a lot of the old Ship so hopefully will be a replica of it (Perhaps you can ask when you go and many thanks in antisipation ) Cheers George --- On Tue, 18/1/11, Preulet@aol.com <Preulet@aol.com> wrote: From: Preulet@aol.com <Preulet@aol.com> Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] HANCOCK, Thomas's son of Jane PARR To: eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com Date: Tuesday, 18 January, 2011, 17:11 Hi George, But you want photos of the galley & interior cabin for the  Constellation circa 1797  and NOT the 1854 Constellation replacement unless of course they reproduced it as  it was.  Am I clearly understanding your wishes?  I'll be happy to do that for you and will let you know when I travel there  for clarification of your wish list. Sorry my previous post got mishmoshed.  I haven't mastered an email  using url yet but I am trying. Even though I leave a blank line, the way I write it and the way it posts  through are different so the spacing isn't showing up. Enjoy your day and I'll get back to you on that. Eleanor In a message dated 1/18/2011 11:31:01 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  george.highton@btinternet.com writes: Yes  Eleanor that,e the ship my ancestor William Trevaskiss Alias Johnson in  his statement to the court at his trial for Piracy & Murder on the High  Seas in Nova Scotia July 1844 he says that he served on the Constellation for  10years chasing Pirates in the China Seas I would love a couple of photos of  her especialy the interior cabin and Galley I have some photos of the  artifacts from the Barque Saladin (Figurehead Bible and Smoking cap belonging  to the captain ) in all a very sorry and gruesome tale Cheers  George --- On Tue, 18/1/11, Preulet@aol.com <Preulet@aol.com>  wrote: From: Preulet@aol.com <Preulet@aol.com> Subject:  Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] HANCOCK, Thomas's son of Jane PARR To:  eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com Date: Tuesday, 18 January, 2011,  14:50 Hi George, No there isn't.  The Constellation is  in Maryland, I think you are  questioning the original  Constellation? _U.S.S.  Constellation_  (http://www.historicships.org/constellation.html) Inner Harbor,  Baltimore Type: 24-Gun  Corvette / Sloop-of-War || Launched: 1854 ||  Commissioned: 1855 ||  Decommissioned: ca.1950 National Historic  Landmark The only  surviving Civil War ship and the last sailing ship  built by the US Navy. It was  built at the same time and place the  original U.S. Frigate Constellation  (1797) was being dismantled - at  Norfolk Navy Yard in Virginia. Much of the  original ship was used in  the construction of the new ship. The Constellation I believe is now a  museum.  I hope to get to Inner  Harbor in the  spring/summer.  If you'd like I probably can pick up photos  for  you.  Below are 2 websites you may want to look at.  _http://www.hnsa.org/ships/constellation.htm_  (http://www.hnsa.org/ships/constellation.htm)   =  _http://tiny.cc/3r3vl_ (http://tiny.cc/3r3vl)  _http://www.navsource.org/archives/09/46/46020.htm_  (http://www.navsource.org/archives/09/46/46020.htm)  =    _http://tiny.cc/ydmtn_ (http://tiny.cc/ydmtn) Hope this  helps Best Wishes Eleanor In a message dated 1/18/2011  6:00:29 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  george.highton@btinternet.com  writes: Hi  Eleanor Hope you don,t mind me butting in here but  do you know if there is  a Replica of the U.S. Frigate Constellation  in Connecticut ? I would love a  couple of photos of her  Cheers George --- On Tue, 18/1/11,  Preulet@aol.com  <Preulet@aol.com> wrote: From:  Preulet@aol.com  <Preulet@aol.com> Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE]  HANCOCK,  Thomas's son of Jane PARR To: eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com Date:   Tuesday, 18 January, 2011, 0:33 Hi Gordon, Thanks for   posting this.  Coincidence, you entered  Mystic  Seaport as  I spent the day in Connecticut, my first outing in more than 3  years.    That's a nice painting, am happy for you that  you could get some sort  of  imagery for your records.    I waited too long to  start my genealogy so have very few   snippets even through  family.  All I know of my great  grandmother from  England is that some of her kids  nick-named her "Queen Elizabeth" do  to her  expecting folks to  wait on her, (no offense to your Queen). I  regret not having  an interest when my grandmothers were alive, and  my  grandfathers I never met. Although I once asked my  paternal grandmother  about  why she came to the U.S. and I  asked her to tell me about my  grandfather and was  answered  that children should be seen and not  heard and to mind my own  business.  So every little thing I can  get  makes me feel  blessed. Thanks for  sharing Eleanor In a  message dated 1/17/2011 3:46:01 A.M.  Eastern Standard Time,    gordon.w.evans@btinternet.com  writes: Hi   Eleanor Yes, you have the right vessel, a  little more detail  concerning  which can be seen  at   :- http://library.mysticseaport.org/initiative/SPSearch.cfm?ID=955252 Some   27  years earlier - in 1856, in New York - my  great-grandfather    William EVANS (b1830 New Brighton)  joined an American-built,   American-owned vessel called the  GLENBURN as first  mate   :- http://library.mysticseaport.org/initiative/SPSearch.cfm?ID=4306 This   ship  tramped the world (Burma, Australia, Cuba, Italy,  Spain,    France, Brazil & Uruguay) for almost seven  years without ever  returning  to America, until she was  arrested & sold by the  Admiratly Marshall in  Liverpool  in April 1863 following a petition by  the crew for non-payment  of  wages (and presumably lack of holidays!).  She was sold to a  firm in  Llanelli, South Wales, and re-named GLAN  MOR under the  British  flag   :- http://library.mysticseaport.org/initiative/SPSearch.cfm?ID=632038 The   GLAN  MOR was lost in the River St Lawrence, near Quebec, on  28    April 1869. Although I have no documentary  evidence whatsoever  to  prove it, my grandfather Edward Glenburn  EVANS is known to have  been born  on board this vessel in 1861,  somewhere between Cadiz  (Spain) and  Montevideo (Uruguay). I  had to purchase my pics of  the BLYTHSWOOD (at  not inconsiderable  expense) from the Maritime  Museum in London, but by a   stroke of luck was able to download a pic  of grandad's birthplace for  free  when a painting of the GLENBURN came  up for auction in the  USA some 11  years  ago   :- http://www.artnet.com/artist/558930/michele-renault.html My   collection  of 'snippets' isn't just down to good fortune, by the  way. It's   taken my family (mostly two of my younger brothers plus  kind  cousins such  as Yvonne and Pam) over 30 years of hard graft to   get where we   are today.   :-) Regards Gordon From:   <Preulet@aol.com> To:   <eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com> Sent:  Sunday, January 16,  2011  10:05 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] HANCOCK,  Thomas's  son of Jane  PARR >Hi Gordon, >What a very  interesting  piece of  family history.  You are fortunate  to be >able to   collect these snippets to add  to your family's history.  Is    the >Blythswood ship  you mention - the one built 1875 Robert  Duncan  & Co  Port >Glasgow, Yard No 90 owner C.E. Wolf?  I  was  trying  to see if there was a >photo >online  but   no. >Regards >Eleanor ------------------------------- To   unsubscribe  from the list, please send an email  to    ENG-MERSEYSIDE-request@rootsweb.com with the word  'unsubscribe' without  the  quotes in the subject and the  body of  the   message ------------------------------- To  unsubscribe from the  list, please send an email to  ENG-MERSEYSIDE-request@rootsweb.com with the  word 'unsubscribe'  without the quotes in the subject and the body of the   message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from  the  list, please send an email to  ENG-MERSEYSIDE-request@rootsweb.com with the  word 'unsubscribe'  without the quotes in the subject and the body of the   message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the  list, please send an email to ENG-MERSEYSIDE-request@rootsweb.com with the  word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the  message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the  list, please send an email to ENG-MERSEYSIDE-request@rootsweb.com with the  word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the  message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-MERSEYSIDE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Eleanor Sorry to say, George's 'pirate' William TREVASKISS (b1818 London) also features in my own extended family tree, although he's thankfully not blood-related! His nephew John TREVASKISS (b1844 Liverpool) married, as his first wife, a distant relative of mine with the unlikely name of Caroline TURTLE (b1847 Liverpool). This is one of Caroline's great-grandaughters in someone else's on-line family tree :- http://www.davebrady.co.uk/trevaskissmargaret1929.htm Regards Gordon From: <Preulet@aol.com> To: <eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 6:09 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] HANCOCK, Thomas's son of Jane PARR >Hi Again George, >I just read about the murder, mayhem and trial of the Saladin, quite >interesting. >Here's a link for anyone desiring an account: >http://tiny.cc/cou4t_ (http://tiny.cc/cou4t) >Regards >Eleanor

Please drop this subject right now. It can only lead to trouble and I don't want any on this list. Thank you for your co-operation Marged No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.872 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3388 - Release Date: 01/18/11 07:34:00

I spoke up for Gordon and was banned as well (Or rather didn,t want to belong to an orgaisation that banned people with no right of appeal ) Cheers George --- On Tue, 18/1/11, Marian Foster <marianfoster@mypostoffice.co.uk> wrote: From: Marian Foster <marianfoster@mypostoffice.co.uk> Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] Fw: [Liverpool-Memories] Emigration of Jewishrefugees To: eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com Date: Tuesday, 18 January, 2011, 18:31 Hi there, What's that all about? Marian ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gordon Evans" <gordon.w.evans@btinternet.com> To: <eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 4:43 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] Fw: [Liverpool-Memories] Emigration of Jewishrefugees > Marian wrote :- > >>That's impressive Gordon! > > But my 450 year-old association with Liverpool hasn't stopped me being > prevented, for the last five years, from posting on my home town mailing > list by an admin based in Philadelphia, where the Jewish refugees who > passed > through the city in February 1882 were headed.     :-( > > Gordon > > From: "Marian Foster" <marianfoster@mypostoffice.co.uk> > To: <eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 11:47 AM > Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] Fw: [Liverpool-Memories] > Emigration of Jewishrefugees > >>That's impressive Gordon! Marian > >>From: "Gordon Evans" <gordon.w.evans@btinternet.com> >>To: <eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com> >>Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 10:54 AM >>Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] Fw: [Liverpool-Memories] Emigration >>of Jewish refugees >> >>Carolyn wrote >>Reminds us all of how central Liverpool has been in the movement of all >>kinds of >>people. >>But by no means everyone has used Liverpool simply as a transit camp, of >>course. >>My ancestor Miles FELLS features in the Liverpool Burgess Roll of 1565 >>and in Liverpool Town Books of the same era. >>And here am I - his 11 x great-grandson - still hanging around the old >>place >>almost 450 years later!     :-) >>Gordon >> >>From: "Carolyn Perkes" <cperkes@videotron.ca> >>To: <eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com> >>Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 2:45 AM >>Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] Fw: [Liverpool-Memories] Emigration of >>Jewish >>refugees >>On 16-Jan-11, at 4:39 AM, Marged wrote: >>From Liverpool 1882 >>On new snippets page >>Please support free sites >>http://www.old-merseytimes.co.uk/index.html >>Jane >>Yes thank you both for posting these documents from Liverpool about >>Jewish emigration. I have just started to look into daughter's >>paternal line (part of which is Jewish from Russia, folks fleeing the >>pogroms, and I found one branch at the Ellis Island site who went from >>Odessa via Liverpool to New York). >>It is very challenging trying to find traces. >>The snippets posted here provide very useful context. Reminds us all >>of how central Liverpool has been in the movement of all kinds of >>people. >>Carolyn > > From: "Gordon Evans" <gordon.w.evans@btinternet.com> > To: <eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2011 2:17 PM > Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] Fw: [Liverpool-Memories] > Emigration of Jewishrefugees > >>Hi Marged >>Interesting to see that the 349 Jewish emigrants who left in February 1882 >>on board the steamer ILLINOIS were destined for Philadalephia USA?     :-) >>Thanks for posting the link on the Merseyside list. >>Regards >>Gordon >> >>From: "Marged" <marged36@btopenworld.com> >>To: <eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com> >>Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2011 9:48 AM >>Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] Fw: [Liverpool-Memories] Emigration >>of Jewish refugees >> >>So sad, Jane.  I read a lot of novels about the Jews in America, and it's >>interesting to know how they managed to make their way there when they had >>so little money >>Marj > > of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-MERSEYSIDE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ______________________________________________ > This email has been scanned by Netintelligence > http://www.netintelligence.com/email > > ______________________________________________        This email has been scanned by Netintelligence        http://www.netintelligence.com/email ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-MERSEYSIDE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi George, Yes they did make the new Constellation from parts of the old Constellation. Ok I'll check it out when I go, but it won't be until (the earliest) spring or perhaps summer. I'll get back to you. Best Wishes Eleanor In a message dated 1/18/2011 6:36:37 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, george.highton@btinternet.com writes: Hi Eleanor my understanding of this is that the New Constellation was built using a lot of the old Ship so hopefully will be a replica of it (Perhaps you can ask when you go and many thanks in antisipation ) Cheers George --- On Tue, 18/1/11, Preulet@aol.com <Preulet@aol.com> wrote: From: Preulet@aol.com <Preulet@aol.com> Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] HANCOCK, Thomas's son of Jane PARR To: eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com Date: Tuesday, 18 January, 2011, 17:11 Hi George, But you want photos of the galley & interior cabin for the Constellation circa 1797 and NOT the 1854 Constellation replacement unless of course they reproduced it as it was. Am I clearly understanding your wishes? I'll be happy to do that for you and will let you know when I travel there for clarification of your wish list. Sorry my previous post got mishmoshed. I haven't mastered an email using url yet but I am trying. Even though I leave a blank line, the way I write it and the way it posts through are different so the spacing isn't showing up. Enjoy your day and I'll get back to you on that. Eleanor In a message dated 1/18/2011 11:31:01 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, george.highton@btinternet.com writes: Yes Eleanor that,e the ship my ancestor William Trevaskiss Alias Johnson in his statement to the court at his trial for Piracy & Murder on the High Seas in Nova Scotia July 1844 he says that he served on the Constellation for 10years chasing Pirates in the China Seas I would love a couple of photos of her especialy the interior cabin and Galley I have some photos of the artifacts from the Barque Saladin (Figurehead Bible and Smoking cap belonging to the captain ) in all a very sorry and gruesome tale Cheers George --- On Tue, 18/1/11, Preulet@aol.com <Preulet@aol.com> wrote: From: Preulet@aol.com <Preulet@aol.com> Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] HANCOCK, Thomas's son of Jane PARR To: eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com Date: Tuesday, 18 January, 2011, 14:50 Hi George, No there isn't. The Constellation is in Maryland, I think you are questioning the original Constellation? _U.S.S. Constellation_ (http://www.historicships.org/constellation.html) Inner Harbor, Baltimore Type: 24-Gun Corvette / Sloop-of-War || Launched: 1854 || Commissioned: 1855 || Decommissioned: ca.1950 National Historic Landmark The only surviving Civil War ship and the last sailing ship built by the US Navy. It was built at the same time and place the original U.S. Frigate Constellation (1797) was being dismantled - at Norfolk Navy Yard in Virginia. Much of the original ship was used in the construction of the new ship. The Constellation I believe is now a museum. I hope to get to Inner Harbor in the spring/summer. If you'd like I probably can pick up photos for you. Below are 2 websites you may want to look at. _http://www.hnsa.org/ships/constellation.htm_ (http://www.hnsa.org/ships/constellation.htm) = _http://tiny.cc/3r3vl_ (http://tiny.cc/3r3vl) _http://www.navsource.org/archives/09/46/46020.htm_ (http://www.navsource.org/archives/09/46/46020.htm) = _http://tiny.cc/ydmtn_ (http://tiny.cc/ydmtn) Hope this helps Best Wishes Eleanor In a message dated 1/18/2011 6:00:29 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, george.highton@btinternet.com writes: Hi Eleanor Hope you don,t mind me butting in here but do you know if there is a Replica of the U.S. Frigate Constellation in Connecticut ? I would love a couple of photos of her Cheers George --- On Tue, 18/1/11, Preulet@aol.com <Preulet@aol.com> wrote: From: Preulet@aol.com <Preulet@aol.com> Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] HANCOCK, Thomas's son of Jane PARR To: eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com Date: Tuesday, 18 January, 2011, 0:33 Hi Gordon, Thanks for posting this. Coincidence, you entered Mystic Seaport as I spent the day in Connecticut, my first outing in more than 3 years. That's a nice painting, am happy for you that you could get some sort of imagery for your records. I waited too long to start my genealogy so have very few snippets even through family. All I know of my great grandmother from England is that some of her kids nick-named her "Queen Elizabeth" do to her expecting folks to wait on her, (no offense to your Queen). I regret not having an interest when my grandmothers were alive, and my grandfathers I never met. Although I once asked my paternal grandmother about why she came to the U.S. and I asked her to tell me about my grandfather and was answered that children should be seen and not heard and to mind my own business. So every little thing I can get makes me feel blessed. Thanks for sharing Eleanor In a message dated 1/17/2011 3:46:01 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, gordon.w.evans@btinternet.com writes: Hi Eleanor Yes, you have the right vessel, a little more detail concerning which can be seen at :- http://library.mysticseaport.org/initiative/SPSearch.cfm?ID=955252 Some 27 years earlier - in 1856, in New York - my great-grandfather William EVANS (b1830 New Brighton) joined an American-built, American-owned vessel called the GLENBURN as first mate :- http://library.mysticseaport.org/initiative/SPSearch.cfm?ID=4306 This ship tramped the world (Burma, Australia, Cuba, Italy, Spain, France, Brazil & Uruguay) for almost seven years without ever returning to America, until she was arrested & sold by the Admiratly Marshall in Liverpool in April 1863 following a petition by the crew for non-payment of wages (and presumably lack of holidays!). She was sold to a firm in Llanelli, South Wales, and re-named GLAN MOR under the British flag :- http://library.mysticseaport.org/initiative/SPSearch.cfm?ID=632038 The GLAN MOR was lost in the River St Lawrence, near Quebec, on 28 April 1869. Although I have no documentary evidence whatsoever to prove it, my grandfather Edward Glenburn EVANS is known to have been born on board this vessel in 1861, somewhere between Cadiz (Spain) and Montevideo (Uruguay). I had to purchase my pics of the BLYTHSWOOD (at not inconsiderable expense) from the Maritime Museum in London, but by a stroke of luck was able to download a pic of grandad's birthplace for free when a painting of the GLENBURN came up for auction in the USA some 11 years ago :- http://www.artnet.com/artist/558930/michele-renault.html My collection of 'snippets' isn't just down to good fortune, by the way. It's taken my family (mostly two of my younger brothers plus kind cousins such as Yvonne and Pam) over 30 years of hard graft to get where we are today. :-) Regards Gordon From: <Preulet@aol.com> To: <eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2011 10:05 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] HANCOCK, Thomas's son of Jane PARR >Hi Gordon, >What a very interesting piece of family history. You are fortunate to be >able to collect these snippets to add to your family's history. Is the >Blythswood ship you mention - the one built 1875 Robert Duncan & Co Port >Glasgow, Yard No 90 owner C.E. Wolf? I was trying to see if there was a >photo >online but no. >Regards >Eleanor ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-MERSEYSIDE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-MERSEYSIDE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-MERSEYSIDE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-MERSEYSIDE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-MERSEYSIDE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-MERSEYSIDE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-MERSEYSIDE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Marged, That's funny! I hope you gave back the rolled oats and got your rollos. He was probably teasing you or maybe misheard you. Have a good night Eleanor In a message dated 1/18/2011 7:01:04 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, marged36@btopenworld.com writes: This mention of the Huntingtons of Liverpool brings back many happy memories for me as I used to live close by their bakery and I can smell that bread now! Remember going into the shop at the end of WW2 and asking for a packet of Rollos (chocolate toffees, in case you don't know). Someone must have given me one - they were new, and sweets had been in very short supply. I was thrilled when Mr Huntington said "Yes, certainly" and reached behind the counter - but handed me a packed of ROLLED OATS (cereal/porridge). Marged (formerly of Edge Lane, Liverpool 7) Forgive me for becoming anecdotal! Hi Eleanor Wondered if you'd ever been in touch with Elaine Rosenberg in Queensland Australia (hopefully not under too much water just now!) who posted on this list for a while a few years ago, viz :- http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/eng-merseyside/2007-01/1169983 092 HUNTINGTON from Wirral & Liverpool being her family line, could she perhaps have snapped up the pics advertised on E-bay in 2005? Regards Gordon From: <Preulet@aol.com> To: <eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 11:28 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] HANCOCK, Thomas's son of Jane PARR >Hi Gordon, >Well I must say the Saladin story was an interesting read on a dreary rainy >day. >But on a sad note, I perused the Liverpool message board mentioned in a >previous email. >You can imagine the dismay I felt upon keying in HUNTINGTON only to find in >a 2005 post that a photo album containing many of my family's photos was >up for sale on ebay. I called ebay to see if they would say had it been >sold and if yes/no would they contact the seller to no avail. I hope it >was >salvaged by a family member. So sad - too bad I missed out. That's me >Johnny-come-lately. Oh well.... >Have a good night! >Eleanor ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-MERSEYSIDE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.872 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3388 - Release Date: 01/18/11 07:34:00 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.872 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3388 - Release Date: 01/18/11 07:34:00 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-MERSEYSIDE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Gordon, Yes, a lovely lady who I had contacted when you first suggested it over/about a year ago. Elaine was kind enough to send me a photo of Blacklow Hall and I believe a photo of her grandfather Harold. Thanks but don't feel bad - what I'm meant to discover will happen and I've come a long way in just over a year -- so I'm quite pleased with my success rate and I've met a lot of nice folks along the way, who have helped me through those brick walls including your own sweet self as well as new found family in England, Canada, Oz, France and many places across the U.S. So I'm on a roll... Eleanor In a message dated 1/18/2011 6:52:38 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, gordon.w.evans@btinternet.com writes: Hi Eleanor Wondered if you'd ever been in touch with Elaine Rosenberg in Queensland Australia (hopefully not under too much water just now!) who posted on this list for a while a few years ago, viz :- http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/eng-merseyside/2007-01/1169983 092 HUNTINGTON from Wirral & Liverpool being her family line, could she perhaps have snapped up the pics advertised on E-bay in 2005? Regards Gordon From: <Preulet@aol.com> To: <eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 11:28 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] HANCOCK, Thomas's son of Jane PARR >Hi Gordon, >Well I must say the Saladin story was an interesting read on a dreary rainy >day. >But on a sad note, I perused the Liverpool message board mentioned in a >previous email. >You can imagine the dismay I felt upon keying in HUNTINGTON only to find in >a 2005 post that a photo album containing many of my family's photos was >up for sale on ebay. I called ebay to see if they would say had it been >sold and if yes/no would they contact the seller to no avail. I hope it >was >salvaged by a family member. So sad - too bad I missed out. That's me >Johnny-come-lately. Oh well.... >Have a good night! >Eleanor ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-MERSEYSIDE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi there, What's that all about? Marian ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gordon Evans" <gordon.w.evans@btinternet.com> To: <eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 4:43 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] Fw: [Liverpool-Memories] Emigration of Jewishrefugees > Marian wrote :- > >>That's impressive Gordon! > > But my 450 year-old association with Liverpool hasn't stopped me being > prevented, for the last five years, from posting on my home town mailing > list by an admin based in Philadelphia, where the Jewish refugees who > passed > through the city in February 1882 were headed. :-( > > Gordon > > From: "Marian Foster" <marianfoster@mypostoffice.co.uk> > To: <eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 11:47 AM > Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] Fw: [Liverpool-Memories] > Emigration of Jewishrefugees > >>That's impressive Gordon! Marian > >>From: "Gordon Evans" <gordon.w.evans@btinternet.com> >>To: <eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com> >>Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 10:54 AM >>Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] Fw: [Liverpool-Memories] Emigration >>of Jewish refugees >> >>Carolyn wrote >>Reminds us all of how central Liverpool has been in the movement of all >>kinds of >>people. >>But by no means everyone has used Liverpool simply as a transit camp, of >>course. >>My ancestor Miles FELLS features in the Liverpool Burgess Roll of 1565 >>and in Liverpool Town Books of the same era. >>And here am I - his 11 x great-grandson - still hanging around the old >>place >>almost 450 years later! :-) >>Gordon >> >>From: "Carolyn Perkes" <cperkes@videotron.ca> >>To: <eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com> >>Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 2:45 AM >>Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] Fw: [Liverpool-Memories] Emigration of >>Jewish >>refugees >>On 16-Jan-11, at 4:39 AM, Marged wrote: >>From Liverpool 1882 >>On new snippets page >>Please support free sites >>http://www.old-merseytimes.co.uk/index.html >>Jane >>Yes thank you both for posting these documents from Liverpool about >>Jewish emigration. I have just started to look into daughter's >>paternal line (part of which is Jewish from Russia, folks fleeing the >>pogroms, and I found one branch at the Ellis Island site who went from >>Odessa via Liverpool to New York). >>It is very challenging trying to find traces. >>The snippets posted here provide very useful context. Reminds us all >>of how central Liverpool has been in the movement of all kinds of >>people. >>Carolyn > > From: "Gordon Evans" <gordon.w.evans@btinternet.com> > To: <eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2011 2:17 PM > Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] Fw: [Liverpool-Memories] > Emigration of Jewishrefugees > >>Hi Marged >>Interesting to see that the 349 Jewish emigrants who left in February 1882 >>on board the steamer ILLINOIS were destined for Philadalephia USA? :-) >>Thanks for posting the link on the Merseyside list. >>Regards >>Gordon >> >>From: "Marged" <marged36@btopenworld.com> >>To: <eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com> >>Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2011 9:48 AM >>Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] Fw: [Liverpool-Memories] Emigration >>of Jewish refugees >> >>So sad, Jane. I read a lot of novels about the Jews in America, and it's >>interesting to know how they managed to make their way there when they had >>so little money >>Marj > > of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-MERSEYSIDE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ______________________________________________ > This email has been scanned by Netintelligence > http://www.netintelligence.com/email > > ______________________________________________ This email has been scanned by Netintelligence http://www.netintelligence.com/email

Hi Gordon, Well I must say the Saladin story was an interesting read on a dreary rainy day. But on a sad note, I perused the Liverpool message board mentioned in a previous email. You can imagine the dismay I felt upon keying in HUNTINGTON only to find in a 2005 post that a photo album containing many of my family's photos was up for sale on ebay. I called ebay to see if they would say had it been sold and if yes/no would they contact the seller to no avail. I hope it was salvaged by a family member. So sad - too bad I missed out. That's me Johnny-come-lately. Oh well.... Have a good night! Eleanor In a message dated 1/18/2011 6:12:00 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, gordon.w.evans@btinternet.com writes: Hi Eleanor Sorry to say, George's 'pirate' William TREVASKISS (b1818 London) also features in my own extended family tree, although he's thankfully not blood-related! His nephew John TREVASKISS (b1844 Liverpool) married, as his first wife, a distant relative of mine with the unlikely name of Caroline TURTLE (b1847 Liverpool). This is one of Caroline's great-grandaughters in someone else's on-line family tree :- http://www.davebrady.co.uk/trevaskissmargaret1929.htm Regards Gordon From: <Preulet@aol.com> To: <eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 6:09 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] HANCOCK, Thomas's son of Jane PARR >Hi Again George, >I just read about the murder, mayhem and trial of the Saladin, quite >interesting. >Here's a link for anyone desiring an account: >http://tiny.cc/cou4t_ (http://tiny.cc/cou4t) >Regards >Eleanor ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-MERSEYSIDE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Marian wrote :- >That's impressive Gordon! But my 450 year-old association with Liverpool hasn't stopped me being prevented, for the last five years, from posting on my home town mailing list by an admin based in Philadelphia, where the Jewish refugees who passed through the city in February 1882 were headed. :-( Gordon From: "Marian Foster" <marianfoster@mypostoffice.co.uk> To: <eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 11:47 AM Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] Fw: [Liverpool-Memories] Emigration of Jewishrefugees >That's impressive Gordon! Marian >From: "Gordon Evans" <gordon.w.evans@btinternet.com> >To: <eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 10:54 AM >Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] Fw: [Liverpool-Memories] Emigration >of Jewish refugees > >Carolyn wrote >Reminds us all of how central Liverpool has been in the movement of all >kinds of >people. >But by no means everyone has used Liverpool simply as a transit camp, of >course. >My ancestor Miles FELLS features in the Liverpool Burgess Roll of 1565 >and in Liverpool Town Books of the same era. >And here am I - his 11 x great-grandson - still hanging around the old >place >almost 450 years later! :-) >Gordon > >From: "Carolyn Perkes" <cperkes@videotron.ca> >To: <eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 2:45 AM >Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] Fw: [Liverpool-Memories] Emigration of Jewish >refugees >On 16-Jan-11, at 4:39 AM, Marged wrote: >From Liverpool 1882 >On new snippets page >Please support free sites >http://www.old-merseytimes.co.uk/index.html >Jane >Yes thank you both for posting these documents from Liverpool about >Jewish emigration. I have just started to look into daughter's >paternal line (part of which is Jewish from Russia, folks fleeing the >pogroms, and I found one branch at the Ellis Island site who went from >Odessa via Liverpool to New York). >It is very challenging trying to find traces. >The snippets posted here provide very useful context. Reminds us all >of how central Liverpool has been in the movement of all kinds of >people. >Carolyn From: "Gordon Evans" <gordon.w.evans@btinternet.com> To: <eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2011 2:17 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] Fw: [Liverpool-Memories] Emigration of Jewishrefugees >Hi Marged >Interesting to see that the 349 Jewish emigrants who left in February 1882 >on board the steamer ILLINOIS were destined for Philadalephia USA? :-) >Thanks for posting the link on the Merseyside list. >Regards >Gordon > >From: "Marged" <marged36@btopenworld.com> >To: <eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2011 9:48 AM >Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] Fw: [Liverpool-Memories] Emigration >of Jewish refugees > >So sad, Jane. I read a lot of novels about the Jews in America, and it's >interesting to know how they managed to make their way there when they had >so little money >Marj of the message

Yes Eleanor that,e the ship my ancestor William Trevaskiss Alias Johnson in his statement to the court at his trial for Piracy & Murder on the High Seas in Nova Scotia July 1844 he says that he served on the Constellation for 10years chasing Pirates in the China Seas I would love a couple of photos of her especialy the interior cabin and Galley I have some photos of the artifacts from the Barque Saladin (Figurehead Bible and Smoking cap belonging to the captain ) in all a very sorry and gruesome tale Cheers George --- On Tue, 18/1/11, Preulet@aol.com <Preulet@aol.com> wrote: From: Preulet@aol.com <Preulet@aol.com> Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] HANCOCK, Thomas's son of Jane PARR To: eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com Date: Tuesday, 18 January, 2011, 14:50 Hi George, No there isn't.  The Constellation is in Maryland, I think you are  questioning the original Constellation? _U.S.S.  Constellation_ (http://www.historicships.org/constellation.html) Inner Harbor, Baltimore Type: 24-Gun  Corvette / Sloop-of-War || Launched: 1854 || Commissioned: 1855 ||  Decommissioned: ca.1950 National Historic Landmark The only  surviving Civil War ship and the last sailing ship built by the US Navy. It was  built at the same time and place the original U.S. Frigate Constellation  (1797) was being dismantled - at Norfolk Navy Yard in Virginia. Much of the  original ship was used in the construction of the new ship. The Constellation I believe is now a museum.  I hope to get to Inner  Harbor in the spring/summer.  If you'd like I probably can pick up photos  for you.  Below are 2 websites you may want to look at. _http://www.hnsa.org/ships/constellation.htm_ (http://www.hnsa.org/ships/constellation.htm)   = _http://tiny.cc/3r3vl_ (http://tiny.cc/3r3vl) _http://www.navsource.org/archives/09/46/46020.htm_ (http://www.navsource.org/archives/09/46/46020.htm)  =  _http://tiny.cc/ydmtn_ (http://tiny.cc/ydmtn) Hope this helps Best Wishes Eleanor In a message dated 1/18/2011 6:00:29 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  george.highton@btinternet.com writes: Hi  Eleanor Hope you don,t mind me butting in here but do you know if there is  a Replica of the U.S. Frigate Constellation in Connecticut ? I would love a  couple of photos of her Cheers George --- On Tue, 18/1/11,  Preulet@aol.com <Preulet@aol.com> wrote: From:  Preulet@aol.com <Preulet@aol.com> Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE]  HANCOCK, Thomas's son of Jane PARR To: eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com Date:  Tuesday, 18 January, 2011, 0:33 Hi Gordon, Thanks for  posting this.  Coincidence, you entered  Mystic  Seaport as I  spent the day in Connecticut, my first outing in more than 3 years.    That's a nice painting, am happy for you that you could get some sort  of  imagery for your records.  I waited too long to  start my genealogy so have very few  snippets even through  family.  All I know of my great grandmother from  England is that  some of her kids nick-named her "Queen Elizabeth" do  to her  expecting folks to wait on her, (no offense to your Queen). I  regret not having an interest when my grandmothers were alive, and my    grandfathers I never met. Although I once asked my paternal grandmother  about  why she came to the U.S. and I asked her to tell me about my  grandfather and was  answered that children should be seen and not  heard and to mind my own business.  So every little thing I can  get  makes me feel blessed. Thanks for  sharing Eleanor In a message dated 1/17/2011 3:46:01 A.M.  Eastern Standard Time,  gordon.w.evans@btinternet.com  writes: Hi  Eleanor Yes, you have the right vessel, a  little more detail concerning  which can be seen at   :- http://library.mysticseaport.org/initiative/SPSearch.cfm?ID=955252 Some   27 years earlier - in 1856, in New York - my great-grandfather    William EVANS (b1830 New Brighton) joined an American-built,   American-owned vessel called the GLENBURN as first mate   :- http://library.mysticseaport.org/initiative/SPSearch.cfm?ID=4306 This   ship tramped the world (Burma, Australia, Cuba, Italy, Spain,    France, Brazil & Uruguay) for almost seven years without ever  returning  to America, until she was arrested & sold by the  Admiratly Marshall in  Liverpool in April 1863 following a petition by  the crew for non-payment of  wages (and presumably lack of holidays!).  She was sold to a firm in  Llanelli, South Wales, and re-named GLAN  MOR under the British flag   :- http://library.mysticseaport.org/initiative/SPSearch.cfm?ID=632038 The   GLAN MOR was lost in the River St Lawrence, near Quebec, on 28   April 1869. Although I have no documentary evidence whatsoever  to  prove it, my grandfather Edward Glenburn EVANS is known to have  been born  on board this vessel in 1861, somewhere between Cadiz  (Spain) and  Montevideo (Uruguay). I had to purchase my pics of  the BLYTHSWOOD (at  not inconsiderable expense) from the Maritime  Museum in London, but by a  stroke of luck was able to download a pic  of grandad's birthplace for free  when a painting of the GLENBURN came  up for auction in the USA some 11  years ago   :- http://www.artnet.com/artist/558930/michele-renault.html My   collection of 'snippets' isn't just down to good fortune, by the  way. It's  taken my family (mostly two of my younger brothers plus  kind cousins such  as Yvonne and Pam) over 30 years of hard graft to  get where we  are today.   :-) Regards Gordon From:  <Preulet@aol.com> To:  <eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com> Sent:  Sunday, January 16, 2011  10:05 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] HANCOCK,  Thomas's son of Jane  PARR >Hi Gordon, >What a very interesting  piece of  family history.  You are fortunate to  be >able to   collect these snippets to add to your family's history.  Is   the >Blythswood ship you mention - the one built 1875 Robert  Duncan  & Co Port >Glasgow, Yard No 90 owner C.E. Wolf?  I  was trying  to see if there was a >photo >online but   no. >Regards >Eleanor ------------------------------- To   unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to    ENG-MERSEYSIDE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without  the  quotes in the subject and the body of the   message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the  list, please send an email to ENG-MERSEYSIDE-request@rootsweb.com with the  word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the  message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the  list, please send an email to ENG-MERSEYSIDE-request@rootsweb.com with the  word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the  message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-MERSEYSIDE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Again George, I just read about the murder, mayhem and trial of the Saladin, quite interesting. Here's a link for anyone desiring an account: _http://tiny.cc/cou4t_ (http://tiny.cc/cou4t) Regards Eleanor In a message dated 1/18/2011 11:31:01 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, george.highton@btinternet.com writes: Yes Eleanor that,e the ship my ancestor William Trevaskiss Alias Johnson in his statement to the court at his trial for Piracy & Murder on the High Seas in Nova Scotia July 1844 he says that he served on the Constellation for 10years chasing Pirates in the China Seas I would love a couple of photos of her especialy the interior cabin and Galley I have some photos of the artifacts from the Barque Saladin (Figurehead Bible and Smoking cap belonging to the captain ) in all a very sorry and gruesome tale Cheers George --- On Tue, 18/1/11, Preulet@aol.com <Preulet@aol.com> wrote: From: Preulet@aol.com <Preulet@aol.com> Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] HANCOCK, Thomas's son of Jane PARR To: eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com Date: Tuesday, 18 January, 2011, 14:50 Hi George, No there isn't. The Constellation is in Maryland, I think you are questioning the original Constellation? _U.S.S. Constellation_ (http://www.historicships.org/constellation.html) Inner Harbor, Baltimore Type: 24-Gun Corvette / Sloop-of-War || Launched: 1854 || Commissioned: 1855 || Decommissioned: ca.1950 National Historic Landmark The only surviving Civil War ship and the last sailing ship built by the US Navy. It was built at the same time and place the original U.S. Frigate Constellation (1797) was being dismantled - at Norfolk Navy Yard in Virginia. Much of the original ship was used in the construction of the new ship. The Constellation I believe is now a museum. I hope to get to Inner Harbor in the spring/summer. If you'd like I probably can pick up photos for you. Below are 2 websites you may want to look at. _http://www.hnsa.org/ships/constellation.htm_ (http://www.hnsa.org/ships/constellation.htm) = _http://tiny.cc/3r3vl_ (http://tiny.cc/3r3vl) _http://www.navsource.org/archives/09/46/46020.htm_ (http://www.navsource.org/archives/09/46/46020.htm) = _http://tiny.cc/ydmtn_ (http://tiny.cc/ydmtn) Hope this helps Best Wishes Eleanor In a message dated 1/18/2011 6:00:29 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, george.highton@btinternet.com writes: Hi Eleanor Hope you don,t mind me butting in here but do you know if there is a Replica of the U.S. Frigate Constellation in Connecticut ? I would love a couple of photos of her Cheers George --- On Tue, 18/1/11, Preulet@aol.com <Preulet@aol.com> wrote: From: Preulet@aol.com <Preulet@aol.com> Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] HANCOCK, Thomas's son of Jane PARR To: eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com Date: Tuesday, 18 January, 2011, 0:33 Hi Gordon, Thanks for posting this. Coincidence, you entered Mystic Seaport as I spent the day in Connecticut, my first outing in more than 3 years. That's a nice painting, am happy for you that you could get some sort of imagery for your records. I waited too long to start my genealogy so have very few snippets even through family. All I know of my great grandmother from England is that some of her kids nick-named her "Queen Elizabeth" do to her expecting folks to wait on her, (no offense to your Queen). I regret not having an interest when my grandmothers were alive, and my grandfathers I never met. Although I once asked my paternal grandmother about why she came to the U.S. and I asked her to tell me about my grandfather and was answered that children should be seen and not heard and to mind my own business. So every little thing I can get makes me feel blessed. Thanks for sharing Eleanor In a message dated 1/17/2011 3:46:01 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, gordon.w.evans@btinternet.com writes: Hi Eleanor Yes, you have the right vessel, a little more detail concerning which can be seen at :- http://library.mysticseaport.org/initiative/SPSearch.cfm?ID=955252 Some 27 years earlier - in 1856, in New York - my great-grandfather William EVANS (b1830 New Brighton) joined an American-built, American-owned vessel called the GLENBURN as first mate :- http://library.mysticseaport.org/initiative/SPSearch.cfm?ID=4306 This ship tramped the world (Burma, Australia, Cuba, Italy, Spain, France, Brazil & Uruguay) for almost seven years without ever returning to America, until she was arrested & sold by the Admiratly Marshall in Liverpool in April 1863 following a petition by the crew for non-payment of wages (and presumably lack of holidays!). She was sold to a firm in Llanelli, South Wales, and re-named GLAN MOR under the British flag :- http://library.mysticseaport.org/initiative/SPSearch.cfm?ID=632038 The GLAN MOR was lost in the River St Lawrence, near Quebec, on 28 April 1869. Although I have no documentary evidence whatsoever to prove it, my grandfather Edward Glenburn EVANS is known to have been born on board this vessel in 1861, somewhere between Cadiz (Spain) and Montevideo (Uruguay). I had to purchase my pics of the BLYTHSWOOD (at not inconsiderable expense) from the Maritime Museum in London, but by a stroke of luck was able to download a pic of grandad's birthplace for free when a painting of the GLENBURN came up for auction in the USA some 11 years ago :- http://www.artnet.com/artist/558930/michele-renault.html My collection of 'snippets' isn't just down to good fortune, by the way. It's taken my family (mostly two of my younger brothers plus kind cousins such as Yvonne and Pam) over 30 years of hard graft to get where we are today. :-) Regards Gordon From: <Preulet@aol.com> To: <eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2011 10:05 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] HANCOCK, Thomas's son of Jane PARR >Hi Gordon, >What a very interesting piece of family history. You are fortunate to be >able to collect these snippets to add to your family's history. Is the >Blythswood ship you mention - the one built 1875 Robert Duncan & Co Port >Glasgow, Yard No 90 owner C.E. Wolf? I was trying to see if there was a >photo >online but no. >Regards >Eleanor ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-MERSEYSIDE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-MERSEYSIDE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-MERSEYSIDE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-MERSEYSIDE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-MERSEYSIDE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi George, But you want photos of the galley & interior cabin for the Constellation circa 1797 and NOT the 1854 Constellation replacement unless of course they reproduced it as it was. Am I clearly understanding your wishes? I'll be happy to do that for you and will let you know when I travel there for clarification of your wish list. Sorry my previous post got mishmoshed. I haven't mastered an email using url yet but I am trying. Even though I leave a blank line, the way I write it and the way it posts through are different so the spacing isn't showing up. Enjoy your day and I'll get back to you on that. Eleanor In a message dated 1/18/2011 11:31:01 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, george.highton@btinternet.com writes: Yes Eleanor that,e the ship my ancestor William Trevaskiss Alias Johnson in his statement to the court at his trial for Piracy & Murder on the High Seas in Nova Scotia July 1844 he says that he served on the Constellation for 10years chasing Pirates in the China Seas I would love a couple of photos of her especialy the interior cabin and Galley I have some photos of the artifacts from the Barque Saladin (Figurehead Bible and Smoking cap belonging to the captain ) in all a very sorry and gruesome tale Cheers George --- On Tue, 18/1/11, Preulet@aol.com <Preulet@aol.com> wrote: From: Preulet@aol.com <Preulet@aol.com> Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] HANCOCK, Thomas's son of Jane PARR To: eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com Date: Tuesday, 18 January, 2011, 14:50 Hi George, No there isn't. The Constellation is in Maryland, I think you are questioning the original Constellation? _U.S.S. Constellation_ (http://www.historicships.org/constellation.html) Inner Harbor, Baltimore Type: 24-Gun Corvette / Sloop-of-War || Launched: 1854 || Commissioned: 1855 || Decommissioned: ca.1950 National Historic Landmark The only surviving Civil War ship and the last sailing ship built by the US Navy. It was built at the same time and place the original U.S. Frigate Constellation (1797) was being dismantled - at Norfolk Navy Yard in Virginia. Much of the original ship was used in the construction of the new ship. The Constellation I believe is now a museum. I hope to get to Inner Harbor in the spring/summer. If you'd like I probably can pick up photos for you. Below are 2 websites you may want to look at. _http://www.hnsa.org/ships/constellation.htm_ (http://www.hnsa.org/ships/constellation.htm) = _http://tiny.cc/3r3vl_ (http://tiny.cc/3r3vl) _http://www.navsource.org/archives/09/46/46020.htm_ (http://www.navsource.org/archives/09/46/46020.htm) = _http://tiny.cc/ydmtn_ (http://tiny.cc/ydmtn) Hope this helps Best Wishes Eleanor In a message dated 1/18/2011 6:00:29 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, george.highton@btinternet.com writes: Hi Eleanor Hope you don,t mind me butting in here but do you know if there is a Replica of the U.S. Frigate Constellation in Connecticut ? I would love a couple of photos of her Cheers George --- On Tue, 18/1/11, Preulet@aol.com <Preulet@aol.com> wrote: From: Preulet@aol.com <Preulet@aol.com> Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] HANCOCK, Thomas's son of Jane PARR To: eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com Date: Tuesday, 18 January, 2011, 0:33 Hi Gordon, Thanks for posting this. Coincidence, you entered Mystic Seaport as I spent the day in Connecticut, my first outing in more than 3 years. That's a nice painting, am happy for you that you could get some sort of imagery for your records. I waited too long to start my genealogy so have very few snippets even through family. All I know of my great grandmother from England is that some of her kids nick-named her "Queen Elizabeth" do to her expecting folks to wait on her, (no offense to your Queen). I regret not having an interest when my grandmothers were alive, and my grandfathers I never met. Although I once asked my paternal grandmother about why she came to the U.S. and I asked her to tell me about my grandfather and was answered that children should be seen and not heard and to mind my own business. So every little thing I can get makes me feel blessed. Thanks for sharing Eleanor In a message dated 1/17/2011 3:46:01 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, gordon.w.evans@btinternet.com writes: Hi Eleanor Yes, you have the right vessel, a little more detail concerning which can be seen at :- http://library.mysticseaport.org/initiative/SPSearch.cfm?ID=955252 Some 27 years earlier - in 1856, in New York - my great-grandfather William EVANS (b1830 New Brighton) joined an American-built, American-owned vessel called the GLENBURN as first mate :- http://library.mysticseaport.org/initiative/SPSearch.cfm?ID=4306 This ship tramped the world (Burma, Australia, Cuba, Italy, Spain, France, Brazil & Uruguay) for almost seven years without ever returning to America, until she was arrested & sold by the Admiratly Marshall in Liverpool in April 1863 following a petition by the crew for non-payment of wages (and presumably lack of holidays!). She was sold to a firm in Llanelli, South Wales, and re-named GLAN MOR under the British flag :- http://library.mysticseaport.org/initiative/SPSearch.cfm?ID=632038 The GLAN MOR was lost in the River St Lawrence, near Quebec, on 28 April 1869. Although I have no documentary evidence whatsoever to prove it, my grandfather Edward Glenburn EVANS is known to have been born on board this vessel in 1861, somewhere between Cadiz (Spain) and Montevideo (Uruguay). I had to purchase my pics of the BLYTHSWOOD (at not inconsiderable expense) from the Maritime Museum in London, but by a stroke of luck was able to download a pic of grandad's birthplace for free when a painting of the GLENBURN came up for auction in the USA some 11 years ago :- http://www.artnet.com/artist/558930/michele-renault.html My collection of 'snippets' isn't just down to good fortune, by the way. It's taken my family (mostly two of my younger brothers plus kind cousins such as Yvonne and Pam) over 30 years of hard graft to get where we are today. :-) Regards Gordon From: <Preulet@aol.com> To: <eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2011 10:05 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] HANCOCK, Thomas's son of Jane PARR >Hi Gordon, >What a very interesting piece of family history. You are fortunate to be >able to collect these snippets to add to your family's history. Is the >Blythswood ship you mention - the one built 1875 Robert Duncan & Co Port >Glasgow, Yard No 90 owner C.E. Wolf? I was trying to see if there was a >photo >online but no. >Regards >Eleanor ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-MERSEYSIDE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-MERSEYSIDE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-MERSEYSIDE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-MERSEYSIDE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-MERSEYSIDE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message