could some kind soul look up these names on the 1851 index.WILLIAM HOLDEN(HOULDING ), AUGUSTA HOLDEN(HOULDING), CHARLES HAWKINS< FRANCES HOLDEN (HOULDING). thank you.

Gay, Thanks for all your time and efforts on this. Friend that sent me the image also copied and pasted the transcription of the household and after I sent email to the list I took a peek at the image. I can't make it out myself...so maybe someone else with access to Ancestry can take a look and see what they think it is...I only glanced at the census image after seeing the transcription and didn't notice the Holley/Jolley till after I went on to search for something else. Thanks in advance for any and all help with this, Lainee At 10:16 PM 4/28/2005, you wrote: >Hi Lainee, >Did you see these birth records for an Eliza and Elizabeth Jolly in 1854 on >Lancashire BMD: >JOLLY Eliza Chorley Chorley CHO/21/1 >JOLLY Elizabeth Chorley Chorley CHO/20/62 > >She could be the Elizabeth Holley in your 1861 census record. > >Also on IGI: >Eliza <Jolly> 22 OCT 1854 Saint Peter, Chorley, Lancashire, England >Parents: > Father: William Jolly > Mother: Eliza > Batch No.: C162921 >Mother was Elizabeth! > >I tried to find a death record for William Jolly but no luck. > > >Gay > >-----Original Message----- >From: Lainee Denton-Jones [mailto:lainee@earthlink.net] >Sent: April 28, 2005 7:43 PM >To: ENG-MERSEYSIDE-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: RE: [ENG-MERSEY] James Barton > >Gay, > >I saw that one, but the wife's name is Elizabeth...every record I have >found mentioning her has always been just plain Elizabeth. This is the >first breakthrough clue I have and am sitting here wishing I had access to >parish records right now. FamilySearch.org and LancashireBMD doesn't show >a marriage between a James Barton and Holley either. Now I would jump on >the Barton/Jolley marriage if I had seen her listed as Ann anywhere. LOL > >Thanks! > >Lainee > >At 08:33 PM 4/28/2005, you wrote: > > >Hi Lainee, > >Lancashire BMD has the following for 1858: > >BARTON James JOLLEY Anne J Liverpool, St. Andrew Liverpool 2023LP/1/70 > >Gay > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Lainee Denton-Jones [mailto:lainee@earthlink.net] > >Sent: April 28, 2005 6:31 PM > >To: ENG-MERSEYSIDE-L@rootsweb.com > >Subject: [ENG-MERSEY] James Barton > > > >I just found out some interesting information on my Bartons! Apprently, > >James Barton was the second husband to the Elizabeth I have been trying to > >find the maiden name of for so long: > > > >1861 Liverpool, Lancashire, England census > > > >James Barton 1817 Essex, > >England Head Liverpool Lancashire > >Elizabeth > >Barton 1825 Liverpool Wife Liverpool Lancashire > >James > >Barton 1858 Liverpool Son Liverpool Lancashire > >John > >Barton 1860 Liverpool Son Liverpool Lancashire > >Elizabeth M Holley > >1854 Liverpool Stepdaughter Liverpool Lancashire > > > >FreeBMD has found no marriages for a James Barton to a Holley between 1854 > >and 1858. Anyone have any ideas? > > > >Thanks! > > > >Lainee -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.10.4 - Release Date: 4/27/2005

Hi Lainee, Did you see these birth records for an Eliza and Elizabeth Jolly in 1854 on Lancashire BMD: JOLLY Eliza Chorley Chorley CHO/21/1 JOLLY Elizabeth Chorley Chorley CHO/20/62 She could be the Elizabeth Holley in your 1861 census record. Also on IGI: Eliza <Jolly> 22 OCT 1854 Saint Peter, Chorley, Lancashire, England Parents: Father: William Jolly Mother: Eliza Batch No.: C162921 Mother was Elizabeth! I tried to find a death record for William Jolly but no luck. Gay -----Original Message----- From: Lainee Denton-Jones [mailto:lainee@earthlink.net] Sent: April 28, 2005 7:43 PM To: ENG-MERSEYSIDE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [ENG-MERSEY] James Barton Gay, I saw that one, but the wife's name is Elizabeth...every record I have found mentioning her has always been just plain Elizabeth. This is the first breakthrough clue I have and am sitting here wishing I had access to parish records right now. FamilySearch.org and LancashireBMD doesn't show a marriage between a James Barton and Holley either. Now I would jump on the Barton/Jolley marriage if I had seen her listed as Ann anywhere. LOL Thanks! Lainee At 08:33 PM 4/28/2005, you wrote: >Hi Lainee, >Lancashire BMD has the following for 1858: >BARTON James JOLLEY Anne J Liverpool, St. Andrew Liverpool 2023LP/1/70 >Gay > >-----Original Message----- >From: Lainee Denton-Jones [mailto:lainee@earthlink.net] >Sent: April 28, 2005 6:31 PM >To: ENG-MERSEYSIDE-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [ENG-MERSEY] James Barton > >I just found out some interesting information on my Bartons! Apprently, >James Barton was the second husband to the Elizabeth I have been trying to >find the maiden name of for so long: > >1861 Liverpool, Lancashire, England census > >James Barton 1817 Essex, >England Head Liverpool Lancashire >Elizabeth >Barton 1825 Liverpool Wife Liverpool Lancashire >James >Barton 1858 Liverpool Son Liverpool Lancashire >John >Barton 1860 Liverpool Son Liverpool Lancashire >Elizabeth M Holley >1854 Liverpool Stepdaughter Liverpool Lancashire > >FreeBMD has found no marriages for a James Barton to a Holley between 1854 >and 1858. Anyone have any ideas? > >Thanks! > >Lainee -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.10.4 - Release Date: 4/27/2005 ==== ENG-MERSEYSIDE Mailing List ==== <a href="http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~liverpool/ENG-MERSEYSIDE.html ">ENG-MERSEYSIDE-L List netiquette</A> ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx

Gay, I saw that one, but the wife's name is Elizabeth...every record I have found mentioning her has always been just plain Elizabeth. This is the first breakthrough clue I have and am sitting here wishing I had access to parish records right now. FamilySearch.org and LancashireBMD doesn't show a marriage between a James Barton and Holley either. Now I would jump on the Barton/Jolley marriage if I had seen her listed as Ann anywhere. LOL Thanks! Lainee At 08:33 PM 4/28/2005, you wrote: >Hi Lainee, >Lancashire BMD has the following for 1858: >BARTON James JOLLEY Anne J Liverpool, St. Andrew Liverpool 2023LP/1/70 >Gay > >-----Original Message----- >From: Lainee Denton-Jones [mailto:lainee@earthlink.net] >Sent: April 28, 2005 6:31 PM >To: ENG-MERSEYSIDE-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [ENG-MERSEY] James Barton > >I just found out some interesting information on my Bartons! Apprently, >James Barton was the second husband to the Elizabeth I have been trying to >find the maiden name of for so long: > >1861 Liverpool, Lancashire, England census > >James Barton 1817 Essex, >England Head Liverpool Lancashire >Elizabeth >Barton 1825 Liverpool Wife Liverpool Lancashire >James >Barton 1858 Liverpool Son Liverpool Lancashire >John >Barton 1860 Liverpool Son Liverpool Lancashire >Elizabeth M Holley >1854 Liverpool Stepdaughter Liverpool Lancashire > >FreeBMD has found no marriages for a James Barton to a Holley between 1854 >and 1858. Anyone have any ideas? > >Thanks! > >Lainee -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.10.4 - Release Date: 4/27/2005

Hi Lainee, Lancashire BMD has the following for 1858: BARTON James JOLLEY Anne J Liverpool, St. Andrew Liverpool 2023LP/1/70 Gay -----Original Message----- From: Lainee Denton-Jones [mailto:lainee@earthlink.net] Sent: April 28, 2005 6:31 PM To: ENG-MERSEYSIDE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [ENG-MERSEY] James Barton I just found out some interesting information on my Bartons! Apprently, James Barton was the second husband to the Elizabeth I have been trying to find the maiden name of for so long: 1861 Liverpool, Lancashire, England census James Barton 1817 Essex, England Head Liverpool Lancashire Elizabeth Barton 1825 Liverpool Wife Liverpool Lancashire James Barton 1858 Liverpool Son Liverpool Lancashire John Barton 1860 Liverpool Son Liverpool Lancashire Elizabeth M Holley 1854 Liverpool Stepdaughter Liverpool Lancashire FreeBMD has found no marriages for a James Barton to a Holley between 1854 and 1858. Anyone have any ideas? Thanks! Lainee -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.10.4 - Release Date: 4/27/2005 ==== ENG-MERSEYSIDE Mailing List ==== You can search or browse the archives of this list and also change membership - move from digest to normal mail mode, or vice versa and sub and unsub at this link http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/ENG/ENG-MERSEYSIDE.html ============================== Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx

I just found out some interesting information on my Bartons! Apprently, James Barton was the second husband to the Elizabeth I have been trying to find the maiden name of for so long: 1861 Liverpool, Lancashire, England census James Barton 1817 Essex, England Head Liverpool Lancashire Elizabeth Barton 1825 Liverpool Wife Liverpool Lancashire James Barton 1858 Liverpool Son Liverpool Lancashire John Barton 1860 Liverpool Son Liverpool Lancashire Elizabeth M Holley 1854 Liverpool Stepdaughter Liverpool Lancashire FreeBMD has found no marriages for a James Barton to a Holley between 1854 and 1858. Anyone have any ideas? Thanks! Lainee -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.10.4 - Release Date: 4/27/2005

This is on behalf of a friend of mine. I can't find the spouse for Stephen CUTHBERT (b1828 Lpool) married 1849, I will forward page to you with Vol etc. His daughter Ellen Jane,is my gt gma married my Italian gpa. Have baptism for her on LDS, mother stated as Martha, no surname. Stephen had 3 children to ? James(b Manchester 1852), Ellen J(1854Lpool) & Sarah before he remarries a younger woman(Mary Jane Smith 1867) & has another 8!! He was a tailor, living in Everton in 1871 census. On Ellen's marriage cert he was living in london Road in the city. Haven't a clue why they would have been in Manchester at the time of James birth...I have searched for a death of Martha Cuthbert with no luck. Cuthbert, Stephen Record Type: Marriages Quarter: September Year: 1849 District: Liverpool (1837-1924) County: Lancashire Volume: 20 Page: 175 (click to see others on page) Any help appreciated thank you. Kathy -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.10.3 - Release Date: 25/04/05

Can anyone help with my research. I am looking for JOSEPH HUGHES and wife CATHERINE living in the Liverpool area, Toxteth Park. Joseph was born in Wales in 1817 and Catherine was born in 1815 also Wales. I am hoping they have a daughter Catherine with them at the time. Hope someone can help. Regards Syl - UK

Hi everyone, I have just found some new information on my Dad`s sisters husband, I wondered does anyone else have these names in their tree please. Thank you Ann ASH family all Liverpool I have the 1901-1891-1881-1871 census on these Frederick 1902 Frederick James. 1876 married Jennie Tunnahill MILTON in 1898 Samuel 1837 married Margaret Jane Baxter in 1870 MILTON family Liverpool I have the 1901and 1881 on these Elizabeth Mitchell F. 1872 Allen Wyile. 1875 Jennie Tunnahill 1878 James Ferguson 1880 Robin W 1886 David Tunnahill James William F. 1837 (born Scotland) married Sarah Robin Robertson (born Liverpool) in Liverpool 1871 -- Whatever you Wanadoo: http://www.wanadoo.co.uk/time/ This email has been checked for most known viruses - find out more at: http://www.wanadoo.co.uk/help/id/7098.htm

I can manage Broadgreen for you Rachel -----Original Message----- From: John Raiswell [mailto:raiswell@ripnet.com] Sent: 22 April 2005 19:38 To: ENG-MERSEYSIDE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [ENG-MERSEY] Photographs needed - please help Hi listers, I'm an ex-Liverpudlian now living in Canada and trying to compile my family history. To help me in this I wonder if some kind soul living near the Knowsley Road/Crosby Road area would send me photographs of 4 particular houses in that area and one in the Broadgreen area. Please contact me direct if you would be willing to do this. I would of course be happy to reimburse for expenses Many thanks, John. ==== ENG-MERSEYSIDE Mailing List ==== You can search or browse the archives of this list and also change membership - move from digest to normal mail mode, or vice versa and sub and unsub at this link http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/ENG/ENG-MERSEYSIDE.html ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

Hi listers, I'm an ex-Liverpudlian now living in Canada and trying to compile my family history. To help me in this I wonder if some kind soul living near the Knowsley Road/Crosby Road area would send me photographs of 4 particular houses in that area and one in the Broadgreen area. Please contact me direct if you would be willing to do this. I would of course be happy to reimburse for expenses Many thanks, John.

Could anybody tell me which woiuld be the nearest RC Church to Henry Edward Street in the 1860s - 1880s? Henry Edward Street ran (and part of it still runs!) between Standish Street and Fontenoy Street. It is parallel to, but a few roads north of, Great Homer Street. Would it have been Holy Cross & St Mary? Anyone any ideas? Rachel

hi maureen we have corresponded before, my websters go back to at least 1840 and are liverpool based,iron moulders by trade ,common family names are william,john,joseph,alexander ,agnes,emmy.may. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Maureen Reid" <moreid2003@yahoo.com> To: <ENG-MERSEYSIDE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 1:25 AM Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEY] REPOSTING MY INTERESTS > > Hello, My Father was Walter Webster born Widnes 1890. His family were > from Shropshire - have quite a bit of information - should you think there > is a connection. According to the 1901 census there were 2 Walter > Webster aged 10 recorded in Widnes - my Father was the sone of Thomas & > Margaret (nee Wright). Regards Maureen NZ > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > ==== ENG-MERSEYSIDE Mailing List ==== > Lancashire Online Parish Clerks www.lan-opc.org.uk > Volunteers needed for Liverpool Online Parish clerks > www.lan-opc.org.uk/Liverpool/index.html > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

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Hi I would just like to thank everyone for their help with this one. I am now a little more enlightened than before. I have decided to phone and ask their advice on what to do next. Thank you all again. I have answered some of you off list and I will be sending thanks to others for giving me their time. Thank you all Ann -- Whatever you Wanadoo: http://www.wanadoo.co.uk/time/ This email has been checked for most known viruses - find out more at: http://www.wanadoo.co.uk/help/id/7098.htm

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Hello, My Father was Walter Webster born Widnes 1890. His family were from Shropshire - have quite a bit of information - should you think there is a connection. According to the 1901 census there were 2 Walter Webster aged 10 recorded in Widnes - my Father was the sone of Thomas & Margaret (nee Wright). Regards Maureen NZ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Hi, sorry to bother you and I apologise if you get this twice but I need some Help!!! please. I was under the impression that as long as made a request to view the register you would be able to do so. I phoned today to make this request about my own birth as I have a queries on my registration, I was informed this was not correct has anyone else come across this? or am I not allowed to view them as I thought? Thank you for reading Ann -- Whatever you Wanadoo: http://www.wanadoo.co.uk/time/ This email has been checked for most known viruses - find out more at: http://www.wanadoo.co.uk/help/id/7098.htm

Hi Maureen, Looks like it was the New Brighton lifeboat. Sounds like an interesting line for me to investigate. Thanks, Alan ---------- From: "Maureen Reid" <moreid2003@yahoo.com> To: <ENG-MERSEYSIDE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 3:45 AM Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEY] Mary Ann CORLETT There was a very well known Corlett family who lived in the Wirral area upto the middle 1960s to my knowledge. There was a Lifeboat named 'Norman B. Corlett' after a family member who drowned. Think the boat was based either at Hoylake/West Kirby or Beaumaris Anglesey. May be a reference on the net. Regards Maureen NZ

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