I am searching for a BROADBENT and associated families of whom I must admit I really know very little definitely. I realize that this is a familiar refrain :-) but I have set out all the information which I am reasonably certain. Like many families where one parent died, the children were split up and looked up by other family members Bill (William?) BROADBENT had at least one child from a first marriage - Peggy BROADBENT. He married a widow, Elizabeth COPELAND b c1884 Durham, ENG (d/o Joseph and Elizabeth COPELAND). Elizabeth had at least two daughters before this marriage but her husband had died in a work accident (or during the War} - Sally and Lizzie. I understand that her father, Joseph COPELAND, lived for some time with Elizabeth after she was widowed. She then married Bill BROADBENT After Elizabeth died, Sally was fostered by her aunt Margaret (my grandmother)- b1880 Hillmorton, WAR, ENG (d/o Joseph and Elizabeth COPELAND) who had married James PAYNE, and Sally lived with them in Liverpool until she went back to her stepfather. She was known as Sally BROADBENT and later married a widower, Tony HULL, and lived in Tyne and Wear. Tony had a son from his previous marriage, James Alan HULL, and Sally and Tony had one daughter - Moira Lizzie was fostered/adopted by another aunt, Martha (Pat} b c1878, SCT (d/o Joseph and Elizabeth COPELAND) who married James LOWE who lived in Bugsworth, DBY, ENG. She was always known as Lizzie LOWE. Martha and James LOWE had the following children - Leonard b c1898, Harry 1900 and Joe some time later Elizabeth COPELAND and Bill BROADBENT had the following children: Nellie, Ann, Alice and Bill. It is possible that Bill COPELAND (Jnr) went to live with his Uncle Joseph COPELAND b c1883, YKS, ENG (d/o Joseph and Elizabeth COPELAND) and his wife Annie in Ingrow, YKS, ENG and later at Menston which is between Bradford and Leeds TIA Jim Jim & Beverley Payne NEW ZEALAND jr_bjpayne@xtra.co.nz Our web page has moved to the following URL: http://www.shampayne.org.nz

I am researching the following names - BANKS : Stretton (Cheshire), Manchester (Lancs) BRADBURY : Lymm (Cheshire) BROWNBILL : St Helens (Lancs) CALLAGHAN : St Helens (Lancs), Ireland DANIELS : Bowdon (Cheshire) GABRIEL : St Helens (Lancs), Liverpool (Lancs), Dublin (Ireland) GARDNER : Dublin (Ireland) GRATWICH : Barlaston (Staffs) HIGHAM : Lymm (Cheshire), Leigh (Lancs) JOHNSON : Over Peover (Cheshire) JOHNSON : Barlaston (Staffs) JOHNS(T)ON : Wallasey (Cheshire), Birkenhead (Cheshire), Hull (East Riding), North Shields/Tynemouth (Northumberland), Ryton (Co. Durham) JONES : Whitchurch (Shrops) LEIGH : Lymm (Cheshire) MILLER : Lymm (Cheshire), Grappenhall (Cheshire) MOSTON/MOSSON : Lymm (Cheshire), Over Peover (Cheshire), Marthall (Cheshire), Snelson (Cheshire) MYCOCK : Barlaston (Staffs) NORBURY : Liverpool (Lancs) PERCIVAL : Lymm (Cheshire), Antrobus (Cheshire) RICHARDSON : Lymm (Cheshire), Prescot (Lancs) TABERN : St Helens (Lancs) THOMPSON : North Shields/Tynemouth (Northumberland) WILLIAMSON : Cheshire WINSTANLEY : Lymm (Cheshire) WOOTTON : Barlaston (Staffs), Moddershall (Staffs), Stone (Staffs) I would be pleased to hear from anyone with similar interests. Thanks Tim

Hello Lists, My husbands grandfather served an apprenticeship for 4 years on the ship, from age 16 years. Here is what I know of this ship: Barque Remus Lloyd's Register 1887-1888 REMUS Call sign: LPGD Official registration # 65319 Master: Captain Sundholm Rigging: wood bark; sheathed in felt and yellow metal in Jan 1885; copper fastened; salted Tonnage: 768 tons gross, 737 under deck and 691 net. Dimensions: 168.5 feet long, 32.8 foot beam and holds 20 feet deep; Raised quarter deck 52 feet long; Forecastle 25 feet Construction: 1872, Wrapping Dock Co. in Bristol Owners: R. Conaway & Co. Port of registry: Liverpool Port of survey: Newport By any chance has anyone heard of this ship? I would dearly love to find a photo, to surprise my wonderful husband. Cheers, Marjorie in Nevada, USA

Will somebody please assist. For some time i have been trying to obtain my fathers service records from the Merseyside Fire Service,i have written to them a couple of time but they just refuse to answer my letters,i know they have more to deal with than a request from the other side of the world,but i thought through the freedom of information act it is my right to request this information,please correct me if i am wrong. Thanks in advance. Bert in Oz

Thank you all you good people for help with my Genes Reunited problem. I now have access! Margaret in australia -----Original Message----- From: ENG-MERSEYSIDE-D-request@rootsweb.com <ENG-MERSEYSIDE-D-request@rootsweb.com> To: ENG-MERSEYSIDE-D@rootsweb.com <ENG-MERSEYSIDE-D@rootsweb.com> Date: Thursday, 23 June 2005 10:01 Subject: ENG-MERSEYSIDE-D Digest V05 #107

Hi Margaret I have no problem accessing Genes Reunited. The problem is more likely to be with your computer and not the site. I have had that problem where the computer closes down after receiving the 'illegal operation' message. Have you tried getting onto the site via a search engine and log on from there? Good Luck from another Margaret in Australia! (ex scouser) -----Original Message----- From: Margaret Davies [mailto:maglez@bigpond.com] Sent: Thursday, 23 June 2005 8:58 AM To: ENG-MERSEYSIDE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [ENG-MERSEY] Re: ENG-MERSEYSIDE-D Digest V05 #106Genesreunited Hi everyone. Is anyone on the list using Genes Reunited in their research? I am having a problem accessing them. They send me updates on new names and also emails from contacts. neither of which i can open. I keep getting an aggravating message telling me there has been an illegal operation performed and the programme will be shut down which it immediately does. Freezing my computer. Is anyone else having this problem? It is not possible for me to contact them through their website although i have tried several ways. It is bad enough not being able to access all the info i have stored on their site but I am a paid up member until October! Frustrated Margaret in Australia!!! -----Original Message----- From: ENG-MERSEYSIDE-D-request@rootsweb.com <ENG-MERSEYSIDE-D-request@rootsweb.com> To: ENG-MERSEYSIDE-D@rootsweb.com <ENG-MERSEYSIDE-D@rootsweb.com> Date: Tuesday, 21 June 2005 1:00 Subject: ENG-MERSEYSIDE-D Digest V05 #106 ==== ENG-MERSEYSIDE Mailing List ==== <a href="http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~liverpool/ENG-MERSEYSIDE.html ">ENG-MERSEYSIDE-L List netiquette</A> ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

Hi Margaret, I am a member of Genes Reunited. I am not having any trouble accessing the site. It sounds as if the trouble is with your computer. Robyn in Australia. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Margaret Davies" <maglez@bigpond.com> To: <ENG-MERSEYSIDE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 8:57 AM Subject: [ENG-MERSEY] Re: ENG-MERSEYSIDE-D Digest V05 #106Genesreunited > Hi everyone. Is anyone on the list using Genes Reunited in their research? > I > am having a problem accessing them. They send me updates on new names and > also emails from contacts. neither of which i can open. I keep getting an > aggravating message telling me there has been an illegal operation > performed > and the programme will be shut down which it immediately does. Freezing my > computer. Is anyone else having this problem? It is not possible for me to > contact them through their website although i have tried several ways. It > is > bad enough not being able to access all the info i have stored on their > site > but I am a paid up member until October! Frustrated Margaret in > Australia!!! > -----Original Message----- > From: ENG-MERSEYSIDE-D-request@rootsweb.com > <ENG-MERSEYSIDE-D-request@rootsweb.com> > To: ENG-MERSEYSIDE-D@rootsweb.com <ENG-MERSEYSIDE-D@rootsweb.com> > Date: Tuesday, 21 June 2005 1:00 > Subject: ENG-MERSEYSIDE-D Digest V05 #106 > > > > > ==== ENG-MERSEYSIDE Mailing List ==== > <a > href="http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~liverpool/ENG-MERSEYSIDE.html">ENG-MERSEYSIDE-L > List netiquette</A> > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

Hi Margaret, I got through to Genes Reunited by getting Friends Reunited first give that a try http://www.friendsreunited.co.uk/ And click on the Genes Reunited logo. Ron Fitzpatrick. ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 8:27 AM Subject: [ENG-MERSEY] Re: ENG-MERSEYSIDE-D Digest V05 #106Genesreunited

Hi Everyone, Many thanks for all the wonderful help with my quest. I have contacted individuals privately, if anyone was missed, my apology. This site has MANY ships, hope someone gets lucky, as I did. _http://www.mysticseaport.org/library/immigration/LineDetail.cfm_ (http://www.mysticseaport.org/library/immigration/LineDetail.cfm)

Hi everyone. Is anyone on the list using Genes Reunited in their research? I am having a problem accessing them. They send me updates on new names and also emails from contacts. neither of which i can open. I keep getting an aggravating message telling me there has been an illegal operation performed and the programme will be shut down which it immediately does. Freezing my computer. Is anyone else having this problem? It is not possible for me to contact them through their website although i have tried several ways. It is bad enough not being able to access all the info i have stored on their site but I am a paid up member until October! Frustrated Margaret in Australia!!! -----Original Message----- From: ENG-MERSEYSIDE-D-request@rootsweb.com <ENG-MERSEYSIDE-D-request@rootsweb.com> To: ENG-MERSEYSIDE-D@rootsweb.com <ENG-MERSEYSIDE-D@rootsweb.com> Date: Tuesday, 21 June 2005 1:00 Subject: ENG-MERSEYSIDE-D Digest V05 #106

>Am about to change email address so wasn't sure how to do this on here apaert >from unsuscribing then suscribing again. Please bear with me. >Kathy ___________________________________________________________ Book yourself something to look forward to in 2005. Cheap flights - http://www.tiscali.co.uk/travel/flights/ Bargain holidays - http://www.tiscali.co.uk/travel/holidays/

Am about to change email address so wasn't sure how to do this on here apaert from unsuscribing then suscribing again. Please bear with me. Kathy >-- Original Message -- >From: Cpwill5@aol.com >Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 13:23:53 EDT >To: ENG-MERSEYSIDE-L@rootsweb.com >Reply-To: ENG-MERSEYSIDE-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [ENG-MERSEY] Cheshire BMD updated > > >Cheshire BMD have updated > >.................................. > >CHESHIRE BMD >www.CheshireBMD.org.uk > >We are pleased to announce the following new additions to the Cheshire >registrars' indexes on-line: > >33,581 births for the sub-districts of: >* Cheadle (1931-37) >* Hazel Grove (1907-22) >* Mossley (1897-1951) >* Stockport First (1905-07) >* Stockport Second (1906-09) >* Tranmere (1898-1901) > >12,841 marriages for: >* Liscard, St Mary (1919-29) >* Low Marple, St Martin (1908-50) >* Moreton, Christ Church (1901-36) >* New Brighton, St James (1901-21) >* Poulton, St Luke (1907-18) >* Runcorn Civil Marriages (1911-26) >* Seacombe, St Paul (1901-09) >* Wallasey, St Hilary (1901-03) > >3,902 deaths for the sub-districts of: >* Birkenhead (1898-1901) >* Heaton Norris (1901-37) >* Stockport First (1903-05) > >As a result of these latest additions, the birth indexes should now be >complete for the period 1837-1900. > >Brett Langston & Ian Hartas >Webmasters for CheshireBMD > >......................................... > >Caryl >List admin > > > > >==== ENG-MERSEYSIDE Mailing List ==== ><a href="http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~liverpool/ENG-MERSEYSIDE.html">ENG-MERSEYSIDE-L >List netiquette</A> > >============================== >Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the >areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. >Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > ___________________________________________________________ Book yourself something to look forward to in 2005. Cheap flights - http://www.tiscali.co.uk/travel/flights/ Bargain holidays - http://www.tiscali.co.uk/travel/holidays/

Hi Lists, Today a wonderful breakthru finding my hubby's great-grandmother on a passenger list. Eleanor Thompson traveled from Cumberland to Liverpool to emigrate to USA. Passage on the Steamship INDIANA, with her 3 children, arriving in Philadelphia, PA., USA, on 16 Feb 1887. I have copied the passenger list for our family & would dearly love to have a photo of the ship, to go with it. I plan to frame these and mount on the wall of our home. Thanks in advance if someone can help, please. Regards, Marjorie in NV

Hello, I too, use both Genes connected and Friends reunited and have not experienced any trouble - although has bee a little slow - suggest a try through 'Google' Regards Maureen Reid NZ --------------------------------- Yahoo! Sports Rekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy Football

Cheshire BMD have updated .................................. CHESHIRE BMD www.CheshireBMD.org.uk We are pleased to announce the following new additions to the Cheshire registrars' indexes on-line: 33,581 births for the sub-districts of: * Cheadle (1931-37) * Hazel Grove (1907-22) * Mossley (1897-1951) * Stockport First (1905-07) * Stockport Second (1906-09) * Tranmere (1898-1901) 12,841 marriages for: * Liscard, St Mary (1919-29) * Low Marple, St Martin (1908-50) * Moreton, Christ Church (1901-36) * New Brighton, St James (1901-21) * Poulton, St Luke (1907-18) * Runcorn Civil Marriages (1911-26) * Seacombe, St Paul (1901-09) * Wallasey, St Hilary (1901-03) 3,902 deaths for the sub-districts of: * Birkenhead (1898-1901) * Heaton Norris (1901-37) * Stockport First (1903-05) As a result of these latest additions, the birth indexes should now be complete for the period 1837-1900. Brett Langston & Ian Hartas Webmasters for CheshireBMD ......................................... Caryl List admin

Hi Lainee have you tried looking at the name with IrfanView it is quite good at making things clearer. I think the email is www.irfanview.com Good luck. Kind regards Kathy >-- Original Message -- >Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 04:24:57 -0400 >From: Lainee Denton-Jones <lainee@earthlink.net> >Subject: Re: Fw: Re: [ENG-MERSEY] Bartons and Holleys >To: ENG-MERSEYSIDE-L@rootsweb.com >Reply-To: ENG-MERSEYSIDE-L@rootsweb.com > > >Strange how the power of suggestion works. When I saw the same entry >yesterday I could have sworn it was Holley because that is how it was sent > >to me about a year ago and how I have been looking for it. Now, Jess, >comes along and says it looks like something entirely different and I go > >back and look at the copy I have and sure enough...it doesn't look like >Holley any more. LOL > >Lainee > >At 04:17 AM 6/20/2005, you wrote: > >>Having looked at the 1861 census I'm not sure it is Holley. It looks more >>like Wolley or perhaps even Hedley! I'm sure finding out exactly what >the >>name is will help to shed light on the Elizabeths but it's really >>difficult to >>read the handwriting. >> >>Jess > > >-- >No virus found in this outgoing message. >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.7.8/22 - Release Date: 6/17/2005 > > > >==== ENG-MERSEYSIDE Mailing List ==== >Lancashire Online Parish Clerks www.lan-opc.org.uk >Volunteers needed for Liverpool Online Parish clerks www.lan-opc.org.uk/Liverpool/index.html > >============================== >Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > ___________________________________________________________ Book yourself something to look forward to in 2005. Cheap flights - http://www.tiscali.co.uk/travel/flights/ Bargain holidays - http://www.tiscali.co.uk/travel/holidays/

Kathy, No I haven't and thanks...I will give that a try. At 01:27 PM 6/20/2005, you wrote: >Hi Lainee have you tried looking at the name with IrfanView it is quite good >at making things clearer. I think the email is www.irfanview.com >Good luck. >Kind regards Kathy -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.7.9/23 - Release Date: 6/20/2005

Hi Lainee, just a thought, Holley is a surname that could be easily mispronounced and misspelt.. have you tried searching variations on it ? I spent ages chasing Magers who turned out to be Magees ! Kind regards Mary

Hubby was born and raised there in Liverpool and we are going for a 2 week trip there in September, and although he isn't fond of my genealogy he knows that at least part of the time I will be working on it. I was hoping to have more to look for in Liverpool. But, then I already have this Barton puzzle along with the Harrisons in Liverpool. In Southport, I have Blundells, Balls, etc and etc and in North Wales, I have two lines of Jones...one in Denbighshire and one in Flintshire to look for so you would think I could keep busy! LOL Thanks so much for your help, Lainee At 04:42 AM 6/20/2005, you wrote: >Tee hee. Back to the drawing board... > >Is it an option to send off for James's (1858) or John's (1860)'s birth >cert, which would give the mother's maiden name and, if she was married >before, >the surname of Elizabeth ??, James's stepdaughter. > >Jess -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.7.8/22 - Release Date: 6/17/2005

Jess, Having said this, I went looking on FreeBMD again and have found: Marriages Jun 1855 ---------- BARTON James <http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/districts.pl?r=16265861&d=bmd_1118058412>Liverpool 8b<http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl?vol=8b&page=342&type=MARRIAGES&start=1855&sq=2&end=1855&eq=2&v=MTExOTI1NjcxNjo4ZWFjOTJhNGZlNzllZTlmOWNkNDRjNjFiZGZhMDYzNDQzZThiMjdl&ampjsexec=1&mono=0&action=Find>342<http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/information.pl?r=16265861&d=bmd_1118058412> EVANS Simon <http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/districts.pl?r=16284246&d=bmd_1118058412>Liverpool 8b<http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl?vol=8b&page=342&type=MARRIAGES&start=1855&sq=2&end=1855&eq=2&v=MTExOTI1NjcxNjo4ZWFjOTJhNGZlNzllZTlmOWNkNDRjNjFiZGZhMDYzNDQzZThiMjdl&ampjsexec=1&mono=0&action=Find>342<http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/information.pl?r=16284246&d=bmd_1118058412> FOSTER Sarah <http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/districts.pl?r=16286381&d=bmd_1118058412>Liverpool 8b<http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl?vol=8b&page=342&type=MARRIAGES&start=1855&sq=2&end=1855&eq=2&v=MTExOTI1NjcxNjo4ZWFjOTJhNGZlNzllZTlmOWNkNDRjNjFiZGZhMDYzNDQzZThiMjdl&ampjsexec=1&mono=0&action=Find>342<http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/information.pl?r=16286381&d=bmd_1118058412> WOOLLEY Elizabeth <http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/districts.pl?r=16339183&d=bmd_1118058412>Liverpool 8b<http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl?vol=8b&page=342&type=MARRIAGES&start=1855&sq=2&end=1855&eq=2&v=MTExOTI1NjcxNjo4ZWFjOTJhNGZlNzllZTlmOWNkNDRjNjFiZGZhMDYzNDQzZThiMjdl&ampjsexec=1&mono=0&action=Find>342<http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/information.pl?r=16339183&d=bmd_1118058412> I realize having the names on the same page isn't necessarily an indication that the James and Elizabeth on this page married. :) Thanks again, Lainee At 04:17 AM 6/20/2005, you wrote: >Having looked at the 1861 census I'm not sure it is Holley. It looks more >like Wolley or perhaps even Hedley! I'm sure finding out exactly what the >name is will help to shed light on the Elizabeths but it's really >difficult to >read the handwriting. > >Jess > > >==== ENG-MERSEYSIDE Mailing List ==== >You can search or browse the archives of this list and also change >membership - move from digest to normal mail mode, or vice versa and sub >and unsub at this link > >http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/ENG/ENG-MERSEYSIDE.html > >============================== >Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: >http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > > >-- >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.7.8/22 - Release Date: 6/17/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.7.8/22 - Release Date: 6/17/2005