Goodmorning listers, I.m still trying to find MITCHELL family in Tranmere,Birkenhead & nearby places, even back in Liverpool who were connected to Thomas Pendlebury Mitchell,James John Pearce or John snr& Hannah. Thomas died in Aged Mariners Home in Liscard in 1910.,I've not been able to find any of the other above mentioned in census lists. One in 1881 may be correct Thomas on the "Comet"he is listed as married .Who was his wife Mary nee Edwards??? or some-one else.Is any-one any-where kin to this man other than me? A man "W.J.Mitchell" giving his address as Fairfield Hotel, RockFerry, mentioned him in 1899 Mersey paper(?) perhaps this W.J. lived at Hotel, maybe passing through. Hellllp please. So happy I'd be if you can. Regards Wendy M. Sth.Aust. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos: Now with unlimited storage

Hi Betty, Your people may have married in church! Few, if any, R.C. Priests were "authorised persons" who could marry couples according to the Law. When I married in an R.C. Church by the Priest, we immediately went into the Vestry and were married again by the civilian registrar. Fred Jones in sunny Johannesburg ----- Original Message ----- From: "Betty QUILL" <betty.quill@virgin.net> To: <ENG-MERSEYSIDE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 10:15 AM Subject: [ENG-MERSEY] Re Blakeney > Thank you ,Leslie for all the info you have sent, especially the marriage entry. As the whole family were 'staunch' RC I have been trying to trace it through all the church records , so quite a surprise to find that it was at a register office! However, as the first child was born only two months later that may have has something to do with it. > > The names in Kelly's don't yet fit into my tree, but may do as I find out more. Thanks again. > > Betty. > > > ==== ENG-MERSEYSIDE Mailing List ==== > <a href="http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~liverpool/ENG-MERSEYSIDE.html ">ENG-MERSEYSIDE-L List netiquette</A> > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > >

Thank you ,Leslie for all the info you have sent, especially the marriage entry. As the whole family were 'staunch' RC I have been trying to trace it through all the church records , so quite a surprise to find that it was at a register office! However, as the first child was born only two months later that may have has something to do with it. The names in Kelly's don't yet fit into my tree, but may do as I find out more. Thanks again. Betty.

Listers.... Is anyone on this list related to the RIMMER family who lived in Thornton Road, Bootle... descendants of Robert RIMMER of 22 Melling Road, Bootle...Horse Dealer in 1907 Liverpool Directories. I am trying to trace back Robert RIMMER into Formby....is anyone researching this Family or Related & can give some information? Hoping for a contact... David PONTEE in Wrexham, Wales,UK

Hello Merseyside Listers, I'm hoping that someone may be able to help me break down a very stubborn brick wall. Any lead on HENRY JAMES BLAKENEY, ( m to Rose CARNEY) or his descendants, last heard of in 1917 at 28, Whalley Street, Dingle, would be wonderful news. As far as I know he worked on the pilot boats before and after WW1. Thanks Betty.

Listers..... Is there anyone connected to the RIMMER family who lived in Thornton Road, Bootle from 1900s to at least the 1980s. I would like to make a connection . David PONTEE in Wrexham, Wales,UK

Hi, Does anyone live near Cavendish Road in Birkenhead who would possibly beable to take a photo for me of the house at #3 Cavendish if it is still there? Thank you. Regards, Lynn Bohen Albion, California

I am researching the following names - BANKS : Stretton (Cheshire), Manchester (Lancs) BRADBURY : Lymm (Cheshire) BROWNBILL : St Helens (Lancs) CALLAGHAN : St Helens (Lancs), Ireland DANIELS : Bowdon (Cheshire) GABRIEL : St Helens (Lancs), Liverpool (Lancs), Dublin (Ireland) GARDNER : Dublin (Ireland) GRATWICH : Barlaston (Staffs) HIGHAM : Lymm (Cheshire), Leigh (Lancs) JOHNSON : Over Peover (Cheshire) JOHNSON : Barlaston (Staffs) JOHNS(T)ON : Wallasey (Cheshire), Birkenhead (Cheshire), Hull (East Riding), North Shields/Tynemouth (Northumberland), Ryton (Co. Durham) JONES : Whitchurch (Shrops) LEIGH : Lymm (Cheshire) MILLER : Lymm (Cheshire), Grappenhall (Cheshire) MOSTON/MOSSON : Lymm (Cheshire), Over Peover (Cheshire), Marthall (Cheshire), Snelson (Cheshire) MYCOCK : Barlaston (Staffs) NORBURY : Liverpool (Lancs) PERCIVAL : Lymm (Cheshire), Antrobus (Cheshire) RICHARDSON : Lymm (Cheshire), Prescot (Lancs) TABERN : St Helens (Lancs) THOMPSON : North Shields/Tynemouth (Northumberland) WILLIAMSON : Cheshire WINSTANLEY : Lymm (Cheshire) WOOTTON : Barlaston (Staffs), Moddershall (Staffs), Stone (Staffs) I would be pleased to hear from anyone with similar interests. Thanks Tim

Dear All, and Hello Caryl, many thanks for your prompt reply. I will ask the Liverpool Record Office for helping. Perhaps only for one Arrival/ Departure. Or maybe, a kind person of this list would read my first posting and could do me this big favour, having a lookup to the old newspapers. Pobably, only a dream! Best wishes, Hella Bremen, Germany ----- Original Message ----- From: <Cpwill5@aol.com> To: <ENG-MERSEYSIDE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2005 11:34 AM Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEY] Newspaper19th century > > Hi Hella > > Welcome to the list > > I have a collection of old Liverpool Newspapers and have been putting a list > of ships and captains on my pages at _www.old-liverpool.co.uk_ > (http://www.old-liverpool.co.uk) but unfortunately mine are mainly all from 1811-34 so too > early for you. Jane Campbell has later Liverpool newspapers and her site is: > _http://www.old-merseytimes.co.uk/_ (http://www.old-merseytimes.co.uk/) > > Liverpool Record Office also has a large collection of old Liverpool > Newspapers on microfilm perhaps an e-mail to them might yield some information. > > E-mail _recoffice.central.library@liverpool.gov.uk_ > (mailto:recoffice.central.library@liverpool.gov.uk) > > They will answer queries on a first come first served basis and will often > do a look up if it only takes approx fifteen minutes, after that they prefer > you to use their research services and they charge for this by the hour. > > The British Library in Colindale London also has a large collection of old > Liverpool Newspapers but they also charge for their services but once someone > has paid they will e-mail the relevant article > _http://www.bl.uk/collections/newspapers.html_ > (http://www.bl.uk/collections/newspapers.html) > > Your English is very good by the way! > > Good luck > > > Caryl > > In a message dated 30/07/2005 17:52:07 GMT Standard Time, > menke-voigt@ewetel.net writes: > > Hi Listers, > here my first posting to this list. I am working on reconstructing the time > schedule of a german master on a sailing ship during the 19th century. This > project means so much to me, because he was my g-g-grandfather, Master W. > GREVE. At the beginning of my research I only knew the date of birth and date of > dead. Now, after 4 years, a complet reconstruction of 50 journeys all over > the seven seas has come about. 3 times he has been to Liverpool. Perhaps, > somebody could do me a great favour and to have a lookup to a historical > newspaper, including shipnews ( Arrival/ Import and Departure/ Export ). Maybe, a kind > person has to study for himself at a library and could have a view to the > old newspapers. I have found Arrival/ Departure of the ships at the german > newspaper of those days, but nothing about Import/ Export. It would be > wonderfull, getting more details by english sources. My English is not very fluently, > sorry. For a better understanding, may I give you the dates. > > Trip 06 > ( my g-g-grandfather W. GREVE was sailor (!) on the brig ) > German brig GERHARD HERMANN, Master CLAUSSEN > Liverpool, May 03, 1838 arrived from Hamburg. > Liverpool, May 14, 1838 sailed to Porto Rico. > > Trip 26 > German brig HENRIETTE, Master W. GREVE > Liverpool, Sept. 29, 1849 arrived from Bremen. > Liverpool, Oct. 29, 1849 sailed to Laguayra. > > Trip 49 > German ship HERMANN DOCTOR, Master W.GREVE > Liverpool, Febr. 25, 1866 arrived from New York. > Liverpool, April 14, 1866 sailed to Singapore. > > I would be very thankfull, if somebody could help me. > Greetings from Bremen, Germany. > Hella > > > > > > > > > ==== ENG-MERSEYSIDE Mailing List ==== > <a href="http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~liverpool/ENG-MERSEYSIDE.html ">ENG-MERSEYSIDE-L List netiquette</A> > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

Hi Hella Welcome to the list I have a collection of old Liverpool Newspapers and have been putting a list of ships and captains on my pages at _www.old-liverpool.co.uk_ (http://www.old-liverpool.co.uk) but unfortunately mine are mainly all from 1811-34 so too early for you. Jane Campbell has later Liverpool newspapers and her site is: _http://www.old-merseytimes.co.uk/_ (http://www.old-merseytimes.co.uk/) Liverpool Record Office also has a large collection of old Liverpool Newspapers on microfilm perhaps an e-mail to them might yield some information. E-mail _recoffice.central.library@liverpool.gov.uk_ (mailto:recoffice.central.library@liverpool.gov.uk) They will answer queries on a first come first served basis and will often do a look up if it only takes approx fifteen minutes, after that they prefer you to use their research services and they charge for this by the hour. The British Library in Colindale London also has a large collection of old Liverpool Newspapers but they also charge for their services but once someone has paid they will e-mail the relevant article _http://www.bl.uk/collections/newspapers.html_ (http://www.bl.uk/collections/newspapers.html) Your English is very good by the way! Good luck Caryl In a message dated 30/07/2005 17:52:07 GMT Standard Time, menke-voigt@ewetel.net writes: Hi Listers, here my first posting to this list. I am working on reconstructing the time schedule of a german master on a sailing ship during the 19th century. This project means so much to me, because he was my g-g-grandfather, Master W. GREVE. At the beginning of my research I only knew the date of birth and date of dead. Now, after 4 years, a complet reconstruction of 50 journeys all over the seven seas has come about. 3 times he has been to Liverpool. Perhaps, somebody could do me a great favour and to have a lookup to a historical newspaper, including shipnews ( Arrival/ Import and Departure/ Export ). Maybe, a kind person has to study for himself at a library and could have a view to the old newspapers. I have found Arrival/ Departure of the ships at the german newspaper of those days, but nothing about Import/ Export. It would be wonderfull, getting more details by english sources. My English is not very fluently, sorry. For a better understanding, may I give you the dates. Trip 06 ( my g-g-grandfather W. GREVE was sailor (!) on the brig ) German brig GERHARD HERMANN, Master CLAUSSEN Liverpool, May 03, 1838 arrived from Hamburg. Liverpool, May 14, 1838 sailed to Porto Rico. Trip 26 German brig HENRIETTE, Master W. GREVE Liverpool, Sept. 29, 1849 arrived from Bremen. Liverpool, Oct. 29, 1849 sailed to Laguayra. Trip 49 German ship HERMANN DOCTOR, Master W.GREVE Liverpool, Febr. 25, 1866 arrived from New York. Liverpool, April 14, 1866 sailed to Singapore. I would be very thankfull, if somebody could help me. Greetings from Bremen, Germany. Hella

Hi Listers, here my first posting to this list. I am working on reconstructing the time schedule of a german master on a sailing ship during the 19th century. This project means so much to me, because he was my g-g-grandfather, Master W. GREVE. At the beginning of my research I only knew the date of birth and date of dead. Now, after 4 years, a complet reconstruction of 50 journeys all over the seven seas has come about. 3 times he has been to Liverpool. Perhaps, somebody could do me a great favour and to have a lookup to a historical newspaper, including shipnews ( Arrival/ Import and Departure/ Export ). Maybe, a kind person has to study for himself at a library and could have a view to the old newspapers. I have found Arrival/ Departure of the ships at the german newspaper of those days, but nothing about Import/ Export. It would be wonderfull, getting more details by english sources. My English is not very fluently, sorry. For a better understanding, may I give you the dates. Trip 06 ( my g-g-grandfather W. GREVE was sailor (!) on the brig ) German brig GERHARD HERMANN, Master CLAUSSEN Liverpool, May 03, 1838 arrived from Hamburg. Liverpool, May 14, 1838 sailed to Porto Rico. Trip 26 German brig HENRIETTE, Master W. GREVE Liverpool, Sept. 29, 1849 arrived from Bremen. Liverpool, Oct. 29, 1849 sailed to Laguayra. Trip 49 German ship HERMANN DOCTOR, Master W.GREVE Liverpool, Febr. 25, 1866 arrived from New York. Liverpool, April 14, 1866 sailed to Singapore. I would be very thankfull, if somebody could help me. Greetings from Bremen, Germany. Hella

Listers.... Is there anyone who as got William RIMMER married to Edith Lily ROOMES in 1907.?? They had a children....Robert...Jack...Lilian & Betty...All lived close together in Bootle, Liverpool. I am trying to find the Birth Date for William RIMMER & names of his Parents. Thanking anyone who can assist in this quest. David PONTEE in Wrexham, Wales,UK

On researching my Thompsons I came across this entry under 'Thompson' and thought it would be useful to someone researching HAMPSON in the 1881 census. JAMES HAMPSON, 26, DOCK LABOURER WIFE - ELLEN, 21, DAUGHTER - MARGARET, AGED 2, family were living at 1, Court, 1 House, Wolfe Street. Vessel 21, folio 40, page 8. Good luck Syl - UK

Thanks to everyone from the various lists who has responded to my 'Nurse Child' query. I don't think I have ever had so many responses to a single question. Alan Siddorn ---------- Not exactly a location specific census topic but I think the question could apply to any part of the country so I will go ahead and ask. I am looking at a page from the 1871 census and am slightly puzzled. On the census form (RG10/3714 page 37) in Bunbury, Cheshire are Samuel SIDDORNS age 75, his wife Ellen SIDDORNS age 65 and William SIDDORNS age 3 who in the column for Relation to Head of Family appears to have G Child and Nurse Child both entered against his name. I have never seen Nurse Child on a census form before and wondered if anyone had any ideas or information about the meaning of it. Also at the same address is a William CLARK who rather unfortunately for him is described as 'Ruptured'.

Hello Alan, This question crops up quite often - usually a Nurse child is one that a family has taken in ( and this could mean by family such as grandparents). Some parishes paid for infants and children to be cared for outside the Workhouse as this was generally cheaper. Some arrangements were private, more or less like fostering arrangements today. Babies who were orphaned or born to single mothers who had to work are often listed with other families, again being shown as Nurse child, in this case probably because the mother in the family they are living with had a similar aged child - no formula milk then! Very rarely Nurse child is a term used to describe older girls who would care for babies whilst the mothers worked. Dorothy Dorothy Holden Dover Kent England I volunteer for the Random Acts of Genealogy site www.raogk.org

Not exactly a location specific census topic but I think the question could apply to any part of the country so I will go ahead and ask. I am looking at a page from the 1871 census and am slightly puzzled. On the census form (RG10/3714 page 37) in Bunbury, Cheshire are Samuel SIDDORNS age 75, his wife Ellen SIDDORNS age 65 and William SIDDORNS age 3 who in the column for Relation to Head of Family appears to have G Child and Nurse Child both entered against his name. I have never seen Nurse Child on a census form before and wondered if anyone had any ideas or information about the meaning of it. Also at the same address is a William CLARK who rather unfortunately for him is described as 'Ruptured'. Cheers, Alan Siddorn

Having transcribed lots of census records from this period, I would say that the occupation would be "child nurse' - maybe the enumerator wrote 'nurse' and 'child' as an afterthought. ED Alan Siddorn <alan@siddorn.fsbusiness.co.uk> wrote: Not exactly a location specific census topic but I think the question could apply to any part of the country so I will go ahead and ask. I am looking at a page from the 1871 census and am slightly puzzled. On the census form (RG10/3714 page 37) in Bunbury, Cheshire are Samuel SIDDORNS age 75, his wife Ellen SIDDORNS age 65 and William SIDDORNS age 3 who in the column for Relation to Head of Family appears to have G Child and Nurse Child both entered against his name. I have never seen Nurse Child on a census form before and wondered if anyone had any ideas or information about the meaning of it. Also at the same address is a William CLARK who rather unfortunately for him is described as 'Ruptured'. Cheers, Alan Siddorn ==== ENG-MERSEYSIDE Mailing List ==== ENG-MERSEYSIDE-L List netiquette ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

Listers.... I am new to this list & this request is rather unusual...in as much as I am looking for a living person. Pat CARNEY married Barrington....do not know his surname...some time in the 1960s or 1970s...& are now in the Wigan area. Pat CARNEY was from Bootle, Liverpool & was part of the RIMMER family. I would like to contact Pat & Barrington about the RIMMER family tree. If this couple is known to you I would appreciate your contacting me or letting them know that I am looking for them. Thanks to all who can help me, David PONTEE in Wrexham, Wales,UK

We have just recently verified that Ellen Appleton who married Joseph Bretherton was the daughter of James Appleton , she was christened 8 May 1776 St Peter Liverpool . She had a sister Ann & a brother James . Is anyone doing this family ? Regards , Lynn

looking for William Hough and Jane Hough on 1851 census werte witnesses to a marriage in 1834 of Amelia Hough andJ oseph Webster, at St Nicholas Church,in Liverpool. all help greatly appreciated .thank you.