I read somewhere that the Society of Genealogist's are very willing to take deposits of family papers which have no other home in sight. Keith

I agree the scenario is a dilemma that needs to be addressed. Most, if not all will have children, nieces, nephews, spouses. Someone has to go into a property when the last of the spouse has died. I think our records should be placed somewhere so that they can easily be found. We assume that our successors will be interested and I would agree that the records, if they are worth keeping should be passed on to the family history society. It does make it more important to make a Will, and leave a note about records. Coincidentally, I live in the Isle of Wight, but my searches, most of them relate to my Scottish family. I am at the end of the line, have no sibling or spouse, and were it not for the fact that my son, adopted at birth, decided to find me, I wouldnt have anyone to pass them onto. Some might say, why search? There's a need in me, to search and find out what my ancestors left behind and almost housebound so its a hobby with a purpose for me. I too have placed my records on CD, and I back them up frequently. I have shared them with an older husband of a second cousin, once removed. Janet ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lesley.Culshaw" <lesley.culshaw@blueyonder.co.uk> > From another list...worth remembering > Lesley: ) > -----Original Message----- > From: Angela > Hi Everyone, > > I want to share something with you that happened at Xmas. > > I had notification from UK that two of my genealogy pal's had passed away > after short illnesses ( one was on my tree ). The husbands of both asked me > what they were suppose to do with all the genealogy and did I have any > suggestions. Both mentioned they had never really paid any particular > attentions to their partners research other than a ' yes dear' , 'no dear' , > 'that's nice dear ' ..........boy does that sound familar ( wide grin). > > I was naturally alarmed because one lady in particular had an extensive > tree. All I could do was suggest he contact some of the local family history > societies and take it from there. I was relieved that I had added her line > to my tree and can rest assured knowing it has already been deposited with > the relevant FHS. > > It makes you stop and think doesn't it ? Will all our hard years of research > end in the bin? We all make Wills ( I hope ) but how many of us think about > the family history and what will become of it. We can't assume that our > spouse or uninterested children will know what to do with it. > > I have deposited my IOW side with the IOW FHS but none of my other branches > have been submitted anywhere .. slack ! I keep telling myself I'll do it > when I have that extra date or another generation back but by then it might > be too late. > > I have put my trees on to a CD and have all my cert's scanned to disc and > have sent them to a friend for safe keeping and have asked her that in the > event of my death could she forward the tree's and cert's to the relevant > societies. She has also sent me her tree with a promise to do the same. We > update and send new discs every 6 months. I have told my husband about it ( > boy was he relieved as all my research is UK based ) I told him to send > her anything he came across as she'll know what to do with it all. > > If you haven't deposited a tree with the IOW FHS ( or anywhere else ) now > might be the time. > > Conduct a test and aske your spouse or siblings what they are going to do > with it all when you're gone ........you might be alarmed at the respose ! > > Angela

From another list...worth remembering Lesley: ) -----Original Message----- From: Angela Hi Everyone, I want to share something with you that happened at Xmas. I had notification from UK that two of my genealogy pal's had passed away after short illnesses ( one was on my tree ). The husbands of both asked me what they were suppose to do with all the genealogy and did I have any suggestions. Both mentioned they had never really paid any particular attentions to their partners research other than a ' yes dear' , 'no dear' , 'that's nice dear ' ..........boy does that sound familar ( wide grin). I was naturally alarmed because one lady in particular had an extensive tree. All I could do was suggest he contact some of the local family history societies and take it from there. I was relieved that I had added her line to my tree and can rest assured knowing it has already been deposited with the relevant FHS. It makes you stop and think doesn't it ? Will all our hard years of research end in the bin? We all make Wills ( I hope ) but how many of us think about the family history and what will become of it. We can't assume that our spouse or uninterested children will know what to do with it. I have deposited my IOW side with the IOW FHS but none of my other branches have been submitted anywhere .. slack ! I keep telling myself I'll do it when I have that extra date or another generation back but by then it might be too late. I have put my trees on to a CD and have all my cert's scanned to disc and have sent them to a friend for safe keeping and have asked her that in the event of my death could she forward the tree's and cert's to the relevant societies. She has also sent me her tree with a promise to do the same. We update and send new discs every 6 months. I have told my husband about it ( boy was he relieved as all my research is UK based ) I told him to send her anything he came across as she'll know what to do with it all. If you haven't deposited a tree with the IOW FHS ( or anywhere else ) now might be the time. Conduct a test and aske your spouse or siblings what they are going to do with it all when you're gone ........you might be alarmed at the respose ! Angela

Thanks Caryl, and to everyone who took the time to help me. Hopefully I will be able to locate some information in the near future. Bye Helen > Cpwill5@aol.com wrote: > > Helen > > Try sending an e-mail to Liverpool Record Office > _recoffice.central.library@liverpool.gov.uk_ > (mailto:recoffice.central.library@liverpool.gov.uk) > > This query, as you know the exact month and year, may just come into > their > 'fifteen minutes' of free help offer (if they still do this) > Copies of local newspapers are available in Liverpool Library RO on > microfilm > If the search takes longer than fifteen minutes, they prefer people to > use > their research service which is quite reasonable > > Caryl > > > ==== ENG-MERSEYSIDE Mailing List ==== > You can search or browse the archives of this list and also change > membership - move from digest to normal mail mode, or vice versa and sub > and unsub at this link > > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/ENG/ENG-MERSEYSIDE.html > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx

Thanks Kathy, sites look extremely interesting but unfortunately do not cover the period I am looking for i.e. 1942. Appreciate your help, bye Helen > kathy_withers@tiscali.co.uk wrote: > > Hi Helen try these sites highly recommended > Kathy > > http://www.old-merseytimes.co.uk/ > http://www.old-liverpool.co.uk/ > > > > > > >-- Original Message -- > >From: pghg@optusnet.com.au > >Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 21:14:56 +1100 > >Subject: Re: Re: [ENG-MERSEY] Court records 1941 help plse > >To: ENG-MERSEYSIDE-L@rootsweb.com > >Reply-To: ENG-MERSEYSIDE-L@rootsweb.com > > > > > >Thank you Andrew and Wendy, I have found out today that my g-uncle was > actually > >killed in January 1942 by a soldier. ( I previously had been told > 1941). > >So I guess I am still looking for court records and any newspaper > articles, > >but now in the month of January 1942. Thank you so much for taking the > time > >to respond to my posting. Bye for now Helen > > > > > >> JJWENDY@aol.com wrote: > >> > >> Hi Helen, > >> there is a site about Liverpool murders maybe there is > something > > > >> on > >> here or you could maybe contact the author? > >> _http://www.geocities.com/stevenhortonuk/liverpoolmurders.html_ > >> (http://www.geocities.com/stevenhortonuk/liverpoolmurders.html) > >> > >> Good luck!Wendy > >> > >> > >> > >> ==== ENG-MERSEYSIDE Mailing List ==== > >> You can search or browse the archives of this list and also change > >> membership - move from digest to normal mail mode, or vice versa and > sub > > > >> and unsub at this link > >> > >> http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/ENG/ENG-MERSEYSIDE.html > >> > >> ============================== > >> Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > >> ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > > > > > >==== ENG-MERSEYSIDE Mailing List ==== > ><a > href="http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~liverpool/ENG-MERSEYSIDE.h > tml">ENG-MERSEYSIDE-L > >List netiquette</A> > > > >============================== > >View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > >marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > >http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > > > > > ___________________________________________________________ > > Tiscali Broadband from 14.99 with free setup! > http://www.tiscali.co.uk/products/broadband/ > > > > > ==== ENG-MERSEYSIDE Mailing List ==== > Lancashire Online Parish Clerks www.lan-opc.org.uk > Volunteers needed for Liverpool Online Parish clerks > www.lan-opc.org.uk/Liverpool/index.html > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx

http://www.cwgc.org/debt_of_honour.asp?menuid=14&searchFor=casualty Had a look on CWGC couldn't see him, you might have better luck. Lesley : ) -----Original Message----- From: paul and helen Hello Listers, I have recently found out that my g-uncle Joseph Pickering, a Police War Reserve Constable, was killed in 1941.

Helen Try sending an e-mail to Liverpool Record Office _recoffice.central.library@liverpool.gov.uk_ (mailto:recoffice.central.library@liverpool.gov.uk) This query, as you know the exact month and year, may just come into their 'fifteen minutes' of free help offer (if they still do this) Copies of local newspapers are available in Liverpool Library RO on microfilm If the search takes longer than fifteen minutes, they prefer people to use their research service which is quite reasonable Caryl

Thank you Andrew and Wendy, I have found out today that my g-uncle was actually killed in January 1942 by a soldier. ( I previously had been told 1941). So I guess I am still looking for court records and any newspaper articles, but now in the month of January 1942. Thank you so much for taking the time to respond to my posting. Bye for now Helen > JJWENDY@aol.com wrote: > > Hi Helen, > there is a site about Liverpool murders maybe there is something > on > here or you could maybe contact the author? > _http://www.geocities.com/stevenhortonuk/liverpoolmurders.html_ > (http://www.geocities.com/stevenhortonuk/liverpoolmurders.html) > > Good luck!Wendy > > > > ==== ENG-MERSEYSIDE Mailing List ==== > You can search or browse the archives of this list and also change > membership - move from digest to normal mail mode, or vice versa and sub > and unsub at this link > > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/ENG/ENG-MERSEYSIDE.html > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx

Hi Helen try these sites highly recommended Kathy http://www.old-merseytimes.co.uk/ http://www.old-liverpool.co.uk/ >-- Original Message -- >From: pghg@optusnet.com.au >Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 21:14:56 +1100 >Subject: Re: Re: [ENG-MERSEY] Court records 1941 help plse >To: ENG-MERSEYSIDE-L@rootsweb.com >Reply-To: ENG-MERSEYSIDE-L@rootsweb.com > > >Thank you Andrew and Wendy, I have found out today that my g-uncle was actually >killed in January 1942 by a soldier. ( I previously had been told 1941). >So I guess I am still looking for court records and any newspaper articles, >but now in the month of January 1942. Thank you so much for taking the time >to respond to my posting. Bye for now Helen > > >> JJWENDY@aol.com wrote: >> >> Hi Helen, >> there is a site about Liverpool murders maybe there is something > >> on >> here or you could maybe contact the author? >> _http://www.geocities.com/stevenhortonuk/liverpoolmurders.html_ >> (http://www.geocities.com/stevenhortonuk/liverpoolmurders.html) >> >> Good luck!Wendy >> >> >> >> ==== ENG-MERSEYSIDE Mailing List ==== >> You can search or browse the archives of this list and also change >> membership - move from digest to normal mail mode, or vice versa and sub > >> and unsub at this link >> >> http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/ENG/ENG-MERSEYSIDE.html >> >> ============================== >> Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for >> ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > > >==== ENG-MERSEYSIDE Mailing List ==== ><a href="http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~liverpool/ENG-MERSEYSIDE.html">ENG-MERSEYSIDE-L >List netiquette</A> > >============================== >View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find >marriage announcements and more. Learn more: >http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > ___________________________________________________________ Tiscali Broadband from 14.99 with free setup! http://www.tiscali.co.uk/products/broadband/

Hello Listers, My name is Helen Galea from Brisbane Australia. I have recently found out that my g-uncle Joseph Pickering, a Police War Reserve Constable, was killed in 1941. A soldier appeared in Court in Liverpool accused of his manslaughter. Unfortunately that is all I know. Hoping that someone with local knowledge could tell me where I could find these court records plus any newspaper articles. Any assistance would be very much appreciated. Many thanks. Helen

Helen, All of the local papers are on microfiche at the Liverpool central library. I'd suggest finding the date of death first though through one of the FreeBDM pages & then ordering the certificate. This would narrow down any search of the newspapers. Be warened though - those things are a real pain to search - its hard enough searching real newspapers for a small story let alone searching them on microfiche. Andrew > -------Original Message------- > From: paul and helen <pghg@optusnet.com.au> > Subject: [ENG-MERSEY] Court records 1941 help plse > Sent: 17 Feb '06 04:56 > > Hello Listers, > My name is Helen Galea from Brisbane Australia. I have recently found out that my g-uncle Joseph Pickering, a Police War Reserve Constable, was killed in 1941. A soldier appeared in Court in Liverpool accused of his manslaughter. Unfortunately that is all I know. Hoping that someone with local knowledge could tell me where I could find these court records plus any newspaper articles. Any assistance would be very much appreciated.  Many thanks. Helen > > > ==== ENG-MERSEYSIDE Mailing List ==== > Lancashire Online Parish Clerks www.lan-opc.org.uk > Volunteers needed for Liverpool Online Parish clerks www.lan-opc.org.uk/Liverpool/index.html > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

To the list Would anyone please have any information about the firm John MATHEWS Marine Paint Manufacturers Liverpool c1880 or know any descendants of this family? His daughter Maude Mary MATHEWS (1860-1931) married Percy Denny Porter O'BRIEN (1857-1900) in Liverpool in 1878. Hope to hear Jennifer Bantow Geelong Australia

Hi Helen, there is a site about Liverpool murders maybe there is something on here or you could maybe contact the author? _http://www.geocities.com/stevenhortonuk/liverpoolmurders.html_ (http://www.geocities.com/stevenhortonuk/liverpoolmurders.html) Good luck!Wendy

I'm afraid we don't connect. Keep looking! Elizabeth Dods elizd77@rogers.com On 16-Feb-06, at 6:30 PM, Maureen wrote: > Hi, Elizabeth, I have WRIGHT connections from Richard > WRIGHT born 1754 Farnworth. The family were Farming and in later > years lived in the Widnes area. Have some notes if you feel there > may be a connection, Regards Maureen (Qld Aus,) > > > > --------------------------------- > Relax. Yahoo! Mail virus scanning helps detect nasty viruses! > > > ==== ENG-MERSEYSIDE Mailing List ==== > You can search or browse the archives of this list and also change > membership - move from digest to normal mail mode, or vice versa > and sub and unsub at this link > > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/ENG/ENG-MERSEYSIDE.html > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx >

Hi, Elizabeth, I have WRIGHT connections from Richard WRIGHT born 1754 Farnworth. The family were Farming and in later years lived in the Widnes area. Have some notes if you feel there may be a connection, Regards Maureen (Qld Aus,) --------------------------------- Relax. Yahoo! Mail virus scanning helps detect nasty viruses!

Looking for families of Bolam / Wright Graham /Wright Resident near Liverpool in the early 20th c. Might have been originally from Tyneside. Elizabeth Dods elizd77@rogers.com

Is anyone here researching the BULL family from Birkenhead? This is for a friend of mine They have the family on census, first showing in the Birkenhead 1891 census Brook street with birthplaces of Middlesex, London, Norwich, Huntingdon 1918 Absent Voters List for Birkenhead lists the following for Brook Street: 202410 Private Joseph Bull, 1st/4th Cheshires (killed 14th October 1918) 359600 Private George Bull, 806th Company, Labour Corps (and we now know Royal Welsh Fusiliers) 844816 Fireman John Bull, HMS Duke of Clarence, Royal Navy (Died young, sometime between the wars. I have the date but it is packed away c1929.) 24776 Driver William Goodman Bull, 25th (AT) Company, Royal Engineers Sarah Bull was born in April 1898. She went to work in London in WW1. She married Alexander Newman c1921 and lived the rest of her life in the south. "Lizzy", married a man who worked for Cammell Lairds as some sort of a tradesman. He was known within the family as "Billy Mac" as his name was William McLaughlin. Not sure if his surname is correctly spelled, Once again just "family history", but family legend has it that before WW2 he worked on the "HMS Thetis" and that it was just the "luck of the draw" that he wasn't one of the men from the shipyard who went to sea still working on the boat, and were drowned. He was also supposed to have been one of the men that was involved in refurbishing this submarine when it was raised from Liverpool Bay. I'll pass on the e-mail address of the researcher to anyone who is also researching this family Caryl

Betty Don,t know what the restrictions were in 1800 but I married my cousin in the 1960,s . My uncle married my wife,s aunty therefore seperate blood-line. Ron > > > > ==== ENG-MERSEYSIDE Mailing List ==== > You can search or browse the archives of this list > and also change membership - move from digest to > normal mail mode, or vice versa and sub and unsub at > this link > > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/ENG/ENG-MERSEYSIDE.html > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death > Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > > >

Marjorie Unfortunately I don't think we have a link. My Jonathan Porter O'Brien married Ann Pierce in 1848 on the Wirral. Their son Percy was born in Liverpool in 1857 and Jonathan's sister Emma Porter O'Brien married George Jenner in Liverpool in 1857. Different mob altogether. Jennifer >Jennifer, > >I have a Catherine who signed on her proposed sister-in-law's Martha LLOYD's >MC as O'Brien. When she married she signs as BRYAN. >Catherine b Cork, IRE 1855 father is Morgan BRYAN >Catherine m in 15 Oct 1875 at St. Nicholas to Joseph LLOYD >Catherine and Joseph had 2 sons, Edward 1876, Joseph 1878. > >Anything familiar? > >Regards, >Marjorie in USA > >Margaret >Which O'BRIEN family around Merseyside 1840-1902 are you researching? >We may be able to help each other. >Jennifer > >>Does anyone know what name the pet name of Polly is short for? >>Posting my interests. O'Brien ,Fergusson ,Richardson , Fletcher , >>Grimes,Austin, Hughes, Loche,Coe,Manning, Wooding, >>Ibbs,Jackson,Cavendish,Scholes,Hull,Shallcroft. All in and around >>Merseyside between 1840 and 1902. Margaret in Australia >>----- Original Message ----- Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 10:26 AM > > > >==== ENG-MERSEYSIDE Mailing List ==== >You can search or browse the archives of this list and also change >membership - move from digest to normal mail mode, or vice versa and >sub and unsub at this link > >http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/ENG/ENG-MERSEYSIDE.html > >============================== >Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: >http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

Does anyone know what the situation was as regards first cousins marrying in mid 1800s? I have a pair who I am pretty sure were cousins who went on to have 10 children but I cannot find a marriage for them. From what I have been told the parents tried to discourage relationship. Betty