Hello Marjorie, Many thanks, but I fear that your Marthas are too late for me as by 1881 Joseph Edward Robinson had moved to Toxteth Park. I think I have found him and his widowed mother in Holbeck, Yorkshire in 1861. Must pin him down in 1851 soon. John Greig Surrey, England

Dear Jess Were your PIERCE family of Welsh origin and were they PIERCE & SONS tobacconists in Castle Street Liverpool from the 1850s by any chance? Jennifer >Dear all > My names are: >Pierce Jess

Hi John, Thanks for the post. Best wishes Marjorie

Hello all Thought I'd throw mine in: GUY (George, wife Mary probably born IRVING, her mother was Sarah IRVING from Staffs, possibly born BALDWIN) George GUY's first wife may have been called Alice LEWIS) GUY children: George, Alfred, Eugene (may have married Edith MAHONEY in 1917), Sarah (my grandmother born c1886), Lizzie (married Karl FRANZIN and went to the states c1923, name is recorded as FRANZEN on the US 1930 census) and Polly (probably Mary, I think she married someone whose first name was Dave) POWER John Joseph married my Sarah Guy in 1904, children Arthur, George, Alfred, William, Joseph, Sarah and Lillian. Alfred died in WW2, 1941 on The Hood. HARRISON William James married my Sarah GUY/POWER in 1922. Children James and Alice (my mother, 1923). Seem to have lived in Everton/West Derby. Addresses I've found include Hankin Court, Sun Street, Haddon Street. I know my Sarah GUY/POWER/HARRISON lived in Copeland Street in the 1930s/40s and later Eldersfield Road. My mother, Alice HARRISON, went to Heyworth Street School in Everton. Ever hopeful! Sandra

Hi all, Just another refugee form the Liverpool list. CARR, Newcastle & Liverpool. WELSH, Liverpool. WHITE, Ireland & Liverpool. Best Regards, Peter in damp Liverpool. _________________________________________________________________ Are you using the latest version of MSN Messenger? Download MSN Messenger 7.5 today! http://join.msn.com/messenger/overview

Hell Errol, Sorry no Taylor match. I have a Hannah JOHNSON b 1828 in Manchester, dau of William & Ellen MUSKER. Sorry, nothing on your DAVIES, as well. Best Wishes, Marjorie Hi Marjorie I have HENRY TAYLOR son of WILLIAM TAYLOR born abt. 1825 married HANNAH STEPHENSON JOHNSON June 1852, Liverpool also JOHN HENRY DAVIES son of CHARLES DAVIES born abt 1866 married MARY JANE TEBBY 1889 Liverpool. MAGGIE DAVIES was witness on the Marriage Certificate. Any connections Regards Errol in Marysville, Victoria, Australia > > EVANS, DAVIES, HESKETH, JUMP, LLOYD, MUSKER, POTTER, ROBINSON, SMOUT, > TAYLOR. > > I would be pleased to hear from anyone who is researching the same. > > Regards, > Marjorie in Nevada, USA

Hi Margaret, Did your Nields live in Lark Lane Liverpool at any point, and originate in Manchester? My brother is researching that particular branch of Nields. Regards Denise.

Hi All Hope I'm not too late to air my research interests. They are:- PENDLETON PETER married in HUYTON 1802 SEPHTON ANNE wife of above, and a complete mystery. CHEETHAM JAMES & JANE nee ROURKE living in Kirkdale in the 1871 census CHEETHAM GEORGE b. Circa 1865, & ELIZABETH nee DAVIES. Any connections out there? Best Regards, Denise.

Hi David I have a James Rimmer b.1825 Liverpool his mother was Isabella ? but she was widowed by the 1851 census so I dont know who his father was Isabella also had at least 2 other sons Henry & John James married Frances Evans their children were William James John Robert & Frances who married John Thompson Reay Mandy

Mandy... My Family tree includes RIMMER in Liverpool...can you name some with dates? David PONTEE

My Liverpool names are ROBINSON -Joseph born Carlisle 1831 but lived in Liverpool MALLEY- Ulverston/Liverpool REAY Liverpool /Durham RIMMER Liverpool HOWARD -Knotty Ash ADDISON Liverpool OSTLE Liverpool I would be pleased to hear from anyone who is researching the same Mandy

Hello John >ROBINSON mid-late 19th century, Liverpool >Joseph Edward ROBINSON (b. Yorkshire; railway engine driver, Toxteth Park, >1881; s. of <unknown> and Martha ROBINSON) = Marina <uncertain> (b. >Yorkshire) I have 2 Martha ROBINSON, Martha b 1879 dau of Martha LLOYD & Samuel ROBINSON Martha b 1905 dau of Annie KIRKWOOD & Samuel ROBINSON (son of above) Best Wishes, Marjorie in Nevada

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Surnames I am researching: PLANT Liverpool Lancs, Bromborough Cheshire, Market Drayton (Stoke) Shropshire, Stoke on Trent Staffordshire HARRISON Isle of Man, Liverpool, Bromborough KEIR Liverpool BUSHELL West Derby Lancs. ROBINSON Workington Cumberland, Birkenhead Cheshire HUGHES Whitford, Flintshire, Birkenhead Cheshire MORRIS Dormston Worcester GABB Cam Gloucester WALKER My brick wall! (Jacob Walker married my Margaret Plant at St Peters, Liverpool 1882) Regards Peter Bundaberg Qld OZ

A cooper is someone who makes barrels. Paul -----Original Message----- From: Davidpontee@aol.com [mailto:Davidpontee@aol.com] Sent: 27 March 2006 09:38 To: ENG-MERSEYSIDE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEY] Roll Call - PLANT et al c1830 Peter Bundaberg Qld OZ..... What is the connection with ROBINSON & HUGHES....and was the occupation of any ... a COOPER? Regards David PONTEE Wrexham, North Wales,UK ==== ENG-MERSEYSIDE Mailing List ==== You can search or browse the archives of this list and also change membership - move from digest to normal mail mode, or vice versa and sub and unsub at this link http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/ENG/ENG-MERSEYSIDE.html ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

As I understand it registration of births marriages and deaths became compulsory in 1837 in England, I do not know about Scotland. However my own research indicates that people were pretty careless about it even as late as the 1890s. Paul -----Original Message----- From: Janet [mailto:wightway@tiscali.co.uk] Sent: 27 March 2006 00:54 To: ENG-MERSEYSIDE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEY] 1901 and Genes Reunited I have something similar myself, in the similarity of name and a dedicated web site, but, the website owner has confirmed that though his ancestry has been taken back to 15th century, there is no link with mine with his. http://www/dun.org.uk As far as I know there was no compulsion to recording a birth, marriage or death, prior to 1855. Where is the certainty? If someone knows differently for the purpose of English records please correct me because most of my ancestry is in Scotland. For instance, in 1818 it was not necessary to have a marriage licence in England. I have a copy of a Marriage Bond for a Liverpool marriage. There's no information there as to the parent of the parties to the marriage. What I am saying is that earler records, those in the 15th century have to be viewed with caution because there is no certainty, other than having a paper document confirming the record that someone was married in 14 [something or other] The problem is that people who are pursing genealogy are grabbing at names believing they are theirs, and even though they might be the same, it may not be that they are related. Of course, if you have Royal blood, then that's a different story. d;^) Janet. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Chapman" <paul.chapman286@ntlworld.com> > It is true that I have not checked it all out myself but there is > little doubt about the authenticity. It really helps to have an > unusual name. I started with my great grandmother's death certificate > - all that I knew was that her name was Margaret Chapman and she died > in 1932. However, I was able to track her back through the census > returns to 1881 when she had her mother living with her - by the name > of Hannah Wildgoose, which had to be her maiden name. The cousins I > contacted put me on to a website devoted entirely to that family (they > all come from Derbyshire) check it out for yourself on > :http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~willgooseweb/. > > Best of luck with your search > > Paul > ==== ENG-MERSEYSIDE Mailing List ==== You can search or browse the archives of this list and also change membership - move from digest to normal mail mode, or vice versa and sub and unsub at this link http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/ENG/ENG-MERSEYSIDE.html ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

Even ROYAL fathers only know that the mother SAYS he is the father - of course, today we have DNA, but I think most ROYALS would shrink from DNA tests Marged The problem is that people who are pursing genealogy are grabbing at names believing they are theirs, and even though they might be the same, it may not be that they are related. Of course, if you have Royal blood, then that's a different story. d;^) Janet.

My wife's family: HOLT mid-late 19th century, Toxteth Park, Liverpool Thomas William HOLT (master mariner; s. of Thomas and Sarah HOLT) = Catherine SMITH (d. of James and Mary SMITH) ca 1871 LLOYD mid-late 19th century, Liverpool Thomas James LLOYD (licensed victualler, Pennington, 1890; s. of George and Elizabeth LLOYD ) = (1) Sarah Elizabeth EDWARDS (d. of Edward and Mary EDWARDS), West Derby 1887; (2) Ann Young SMITH, St Peter, Liverpool, 1900 ROBINSON mid-late 19th century, Liverpool Joseph Edward ROBINSON (b. Yorkshire; railway engine driver, Toxteth Park, 1881; s. of <unknown> and Martha ROBINSON) = Marina <uncertain> (b. Yorkshire) POLLARD mid-late 19th century, Toxteth Park, Liverpool Thomas POLLARD (engine fitter, Toxteth Park, Liverpool, 1901; s. of Robinson POLLARD, police officer and Mary Alice HARRISON) = Miriam Harriet FREELAND (d. of George John FREELAND and Harriott Ann ROBERTS), Toxteth Park, 1894 My own family: Interested in any information on the Liverpool period (? 1867-1880) of : James RODGER (b.1804 Fife; m. Isabella TAYLOR, Renfrew, 1831; d.1888 Lanark) captain-at-sea. "After retiring from the sea, Captain James was employed for many years as ships husband to the famous firm in Liverpool of Williamson Milligan and Company." In 1871 was living at 95 Queen's Road, Everton. Happy to hear of any possible connections and exchange information. John GREIG

Paul... I know what a COOPER makes...I wanted to know if Peter's .....HUGHES or ROBINSON family followed that occupation. David

Peter Bundaberg Qld OZ..... What is the connection with ROBINSON & HUGHES....and was the occupation of any ... a COOPER? Regards David PONTEE Wrexham, North Wales,UK