Does anyone have any MCHAINES ancesters living in Prescot around 1861? Tim

I am researching the following names - BANKS : Stretton (Cheshire), Manchester (Lancs) BRADBURY : Lymm(Cheshire) BROWNBILL : St Helens (Lancs) CALLAGHAN : St Helens (Lancs), Ireland DANIELS : Bowdon (Cheshire) GABRIEL : St Helens (Lancs), Liverpool (Lancs), Dublin (Ireland) GARDNER : Dublin (Ireland) GRATWICH : Barlaston (Staffs) HIGHAM : Lymm (Cheshire), Leigh (Lancs) JOHNSON : Over Peover (Cheshire) JOHNSON : Barlaston (Staffs) JOHNS(T)ON : Wallasey (Cheshire), Birkenhead (Cheshire), Hull (East Riding), North Shields/Tynemouth (Northumberland), Ryton (Co. Durham) JONES : Whitchurch (Shrops) LEIGH : Lymm (Cheshire) MILLER : Lymm (Cheshire), Grappenhall (Cheshire) MOSTON/MOSSON : Lymm (Cheshire), Over Peover (Cheshire), Marthall (Cheshire), Snelson (Cheshire) MYCOCK : Barlaston (Staffs) NORBURY : Liverpool (Lancs) PERCIVAL : Lymm (Cheshire), Antrobus (Cheshire) RICHARDSON : Lymm (Cheshire), Prescot (Lancs) TABERN : St Helens (Lancs) THOMPSON : North Shields/Tynemouth (Northumberland) WILLIAMSON : Cheshire WINSTANLEY : Lymm (Cheshire) WOOTTON : Barlaston (Staffs), Moddershall (Staffs), Stone (Staffs) I would be pleased to hear from anyone with similar interests. Thanks Tim

Ian, Just had another look and think I may have found the father on the 1871... unfortunately it appears that he was being detained at Her Majesty's pleasure. Also, there are many Lally's from Galway on the 1871 if you would like their detail too. HTH, Ailsa Martin Lally Age: 30 Estimated birth year: abt 1841 Relation: Prisoner Household: View other family members Gender: Male Where born: Galway, Ireland Civil Parish: Kirkdale Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary Town: Kirkdale County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Disability: View image Source information: RG10/3829 Registration district: West Derby Sub-registration district: Toxteth Park ED, institution, or vessel: County Prison Folio: 97 Page: 3 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 18 -----Original Message----- From: ian.plimmer@ntlworld.com [mailto:ian.plimmer@ntlworld.com] Sent: 30 April 2006 21:07 To: ENG-MERSEYSIDE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [ENG-MERSEY] LALLY searching for a friend, can anyone help which direction she should go? Thanks! "Stuck again with Patrick Lally. Can find him as far back as 1881 census, he was 20. His birth place on every census says Galway. His death cert shows his father as Martin Lally. Completely stuck after that!" 1881 17 Bolton St, Parr, Lancashire RG11 / 3737 / 99 Page 63 Ann COYNE Head W Female 44 Galway, Ireland Mary COYNE Daur U Female 17 St Helens, Lancashire, Glass Smoother Michael COYNE Son U Male 12 St Helens, Lancashire, Scholar Ann COYNE Daur Female 6 St Helens, Lancashire, Scholar Billy COYNE Son Male 3 St Helens, Lancashire, Scholar Patrick LALLY Lodger U Male 19 Galway, Ireland Labourer Thomas HEARN Lodger U Male 25 Leitrim, Ireland Labourer ----------------------------------------- Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information ==== ENG-MERSEYSIDE Mailing List ==== You can search or browse the archives of this list and also change membership - move from digest to normal mail mode, or vice versa and sub and unsub at this link http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/ENG/ENG-MERSEYSIDE.html ============================== Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx

Posting my interests again, just in case, and more in hope that one day................. David Kirkpatrick b. 1783 d 1837 [Surgeon] Master Mariner when married m.10/5/1818 Mary Sillers b. 21.10.1796 d. 1864 This family lived in Caldy and ferried across the Mersey as a lot might have done to pursue the formalities of christening. Janet

Hi Ian, There is a Patrick Lally Born Ireland 1861 living Liverpool on the 1871. Ellen Lally abt 1866 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Daughter Liverpool Lancashire Honor Lally abt 1836 Ireland Wife Liverpool Lancashire Michael Lally abt 1836 Ireland Head Liverpool Lancashire Michael Lally abt 1864 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Son Liverpool Lancashire Patrick Lally abt 1861 Ireland Son Liverpool Lancashire If this is any help give me a shout and I'll send you the image off list. I guess if he was born in 1861 in Ireland then they aren't going to be on any of the earlier E&W census returns. Is she looking for BMD info too or just census? HTH, Ailsa -----Original Message----- From: ian.plimmer@ntlworld.com [mailto:ian.plimmer@ntlworld.com] Sent: 30 April 2006 21:07 To: ENG-MERSEYSIDE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [ENG-MERSEY] LALLY searching for a friend, can anyone help which direction she should go? Thanks! "Stuck again with Patrick Lally. Can find him as far back as 1881 census, he was 20. His birth place on every census says Galway. His death cert shows his father as Martin Lally. Completely stuck after that!" 1881 17 Bolton St, Parr, Lancashire RG11 / 3737 / 99 Page 63 Ann COYNE Head W Female 44 Galway, Ireland Mary COYNE Daur U Female 17 St Helens, Lancashire, Glass Smoother Michael COYNE Son U Male 12 St Helens, Lancashire, Scholar Ann COYNE Daur Female 6 St Helens, Lancashire, Scholar Billy COYNE Son Male 3 St Helens, Lancashire, Scholar Patrick LALLY Lodger U Male 19 Galway, Ireland Labourer Thomas HEARN Lodger U Male 25 Leitrim, Ireland Labourer ----------------------------------------- Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information ==== ENG-MERSEYSIDE Mailing List ==== You can search or browse the archives of this list and also change membership - move from digest to normal mail mode, or vice versa and sub and unsub at this link http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/ENG/ENG-MERSEYSIDE.html ============================== Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx

searching for a friend, can anyone help which direction she should go? Thanks! "Stuck again with Patrick Lally. Can find him as far back as 1881 census, he was 20. His birth place on every census says Galway. His death cert shows his father as Martin Lally. Completely stuck after that!" 1881 17 Bolton St, Parr, Lancashire RG11 / 3737 / 99 Page 63 Ann COYNE Head W Female 44 Galway, Ireland Mary COYNE Daur U Female 17 St Helens, Lancashire, Glass Smoother Michael COYNE Son U Male 12 St Helens, Lancashire, Scholar Ann COYNE Daur Female 6 St Helens, Lancashire, Scholar Billy COYNE Son Male 3 St Helens, Lancashire, Scholar Patrick LALLY Lodger U Male 19 Galway, Ireland Labourer Thomas HEARN Lodger U Male 25 Leitrim, Ireland Labourer ----------------------------------------- Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information

Listers.... Does anyone know the current email address of PAULINE ALDRIDGE who had an old email... _pandb@melidenmountain.freeserve.co.uk_ (mailto:pandb@melidenmountain.freeserve.co.uk) this was back in 2003....I would like to contact her about MAWDSLEY & BRADSHAW failies in Formby. David PONTEE

Hello Listers, Researching both Paternal and Maternal lines I have found evidence of other Merseyside ancestors. 1851 Census. Alice Gaskell Wid 41 Pastry Cook Ellen Gaskell dgt 12 Eliza Fair sis. u/m 62 living 67 Cases St. Liverpool. 1881 census. John Han(n)away Elizabeth (nee Fair) Han(n)away Menai St. Would be most interested to hear from anyone who may have links. The Fair line originated in Scotland. Maureen Qld Aus. --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously low rates.

Some interesting but rather sad information about 40 Hesketh Road, as we were speaking about it only last week on the Southport List This is from today's Southport Visiter (midweek) Marged http://icseftonandwestlancs.icnetwork.co.uk/icsouthport/news/tm_objectid=16995657%26method=full%26siteid=60252-name_page.html

The 1841 Census has just been made available on-line at http://www.uk1841census.com/index.htm The downside is that there is a charge for access

Hello all, I am a new subscriber trying to trace a JOYCE BEAUCHAMP / BEACHAM / BEACHIM. born possible Liverpool 1790. She was my Gt. Gt. Grandmother. On 18/5/1819 she married William Hippisley Perry in Kilmersden, Somerset. Name given as Joyce Beauchamp, no age given. When he died she married a John Rees in Shepton Mallet, Somerset on 2/11/1826. On the 1851 census she was down as Screase aged 45, widow. This would give her a birthdate around 1805. On the 1861 census she was down as Crees, aged 78, widow. This would give a birthdate of around 1783. When she died 28/4/1862 she was down as Crees, aged 82 which would give a birthdate around 1780. I have been unable to trace her Baptism / Christening around Kilmersden but have received some information that a James BEACHAM was removed from Liverpool to Kilmersden with 2 children around the beginning of 1798 under the Poor Law. On 18/2/1798 he received from the Parish the sum of 4/- for shoes for his daughter. I am wondering if any subscribers have any trace of him in Liverpool around this time, possibly a wedding or the Baptism /Christening of his two children. I would think that originally he came from Kilmersden to Liverpool, possibly for work and was removed back there after falling on hard times. A long shot I know but someone may know something of him. Any help or advice gratefully accepted. Regards Harry

Hi Susan, What a fantastic photograph to have! Can't help you with any specifics, but you might find this article from family tree magazine helpful. http://www.familytreemagazine.com/photos/apr01-04.htm Good Luck! Ailsa -----Original Message----- From: Susan Tyson [mailto:teetyson@mindspring.com] Sent: 13 April 2006 18:14 To: ENG-MERSEYSIDE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [ENG-MERSEY] Joseph NICHOLLS in uniform Joseph Nicholls, picture taken 1860s, M. Quillish, photographer, 8 Soho St,Islington, Liverpool~ in uniform~ http://community.webshots.com/photo/549458762/2829760810082135343PfYSmo I think that he may be a volunteer(shako hat). He has an artillery pin on sleeve. He may have been in India in 1850s, and again around 1868 and 1869 (when my great great grandfather Robert Ashley Nicholls,was born ( July 1868/9). He was back in Liverpool in 1870 (child born in December). I would like to be able to identify what regiment he was in. I am hoping someone might have some ideas. I was able to find Joseph in 1851 census in Liverpool (he was listed as Josh Nichols) age 22, Dale Street, occupation painter. I have not been able to find him in 1861 census, or a marriage record (yet) for Joseph Nicholls and Susannah Smith. I found him in 1871 in England~ Joseph Nicholls and Susannah were living in North Meols, Lancashire County, England. Joseph Nicholls was listed as head of family, age 42, painter, born in Liverpool, Lancashire County, England. Susannah, his wife, was age 38, born in Tranmere, Cheshire County, England Children listed were Adalaide Nicholls, age 4 and Robert age 3 (both born in Southport, Lancashire County, England).I found Adelaide in BMD, but not Robert. Robert's marriage and death records (and census records) in the USA all list Benares India as place of birth. Susan Tyson Ga, USA ==== ENG-MERSEYSIDE Mailing List ==== You can search or browse the archives of this list and also change membership - move from digest to normal mail mode, or vice versa and sub and unsub at this link http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/ENG/ENG-MERSEYSIDE.html ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

Thanks Ailsa I also found this site which is interesting http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~liverpoolphotographers/ (photographers of Liverpool) I have a few photos...some identified......but many others not....yet! Susan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ailsa Barnes" <ailsa@barnes.net> To: <ENG-MERSEYSIDE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 3:57 PM Subject: RE: [ENG-MERSEY] Joseph NICHOLLS in uniform > Hi Susan, > > What a fantastic photograph to have! Can't help you with any specifics, but > you might find this article from family tree magazine helpful. > > http://www.familytreemagazine.com/photos/apr01-04.htm > > Good Luck! > > Ailsa > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Susan Tyson [mailto:teetyson@mindspring.com] > Sent: 13 April 2006 18:14 > To: ENG-MERSEYSIDE-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [ENG-MERSEY] Joseph NICHOLLS in uniform > > > Joseph Nicholls, picture taken 1860s, M. Quillish, photographer, 8 Soho > St,Islington, Liverpool~ in uniform~ > http://community.webshots.com/photo/549458762/2829760810082135343PfYSmo > > I think that he may be a volunteer(shako hat). He has an artillery pin on > sleeve. He may have been in India in 1850s, and again around 1868 and 1869 > (when my great great grandfather Robert Ashley Nicholls,was born ( July > 1868/9). He was back in Liverpool in 1870 (child born in December). I would > like to be able to identify what regiment he was in. I am hoping someone > might have some ideas. > > I was able to find Joseph in 1851 census in Liverpool (he was listed as Josh > Nichols) age 22, Dale Street, occupation painter. I have not been able to > find him in 1861 census, or a marriage record (yet) for Joseph Nicholls and > Susannah Smith. I found him in 1871 in England~ Joseph Nicholls and Susannah > were living in North Meols, Lancashire County, England. Joseph Nicholls was > listed as head of family, age 42, painter, born in Liverpool, Lancashire > County, England. Susannah, his wife, was age 38, born in Tranmere, Cheshire > County, England Children listed were Adalaide Nicholls, age 4 and Robert age > 3 (both born in Southport, Lancashire County, England).I found Adelaide in > BMD, but not Robert. Robert's marriage and death records (and census > records) in the USA all list Benares India as place of birth. > > Susan Tyson > Ga, USA > > > ==== ENG-MERSEYSIDE Mailing List ==== > You can search or browse the archives of this list and also change > membership - move from digest to normal mail mode, or vice versa and sub and > unsub at this link > > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/ENG/ENG-MERSEYSIDE.html > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > ==== ENG-MERSEYSIDE Mailing List ==== > You can search or browse the archives of this list and also change membership - move from digest to normal mail mode, or vice versa and sub and unsub at this link > > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/ENG/ENG-MERSEYSIDE.html > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > >

Sounds a likely scenario. ----- Original Message ----- From: <ian.plimmer@ntlworld.com> To: <ENG-MERSEYSIDE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 11:58 PM Subject: [ENG-MERSEY] ALDRIDGE KNOX STUBBS HEALING > Hi > > Can I just bounce this off you all - I think I have found the missing John > ALDRIDGE to Ann KNOX marriage. > > Their eldest child born 1873 (my direct ancestor, his mother's maiden name > as KNOX) - various searches for marriage draw a blank. > > Then today I stumbled over this entry > > Marriages 1863 > HEALING Ann to KNOX William Liverpool, St. Peter Liverpool 2122LP/44/354 > STUBBS Ann to KNOX William Liverpool, St. Peter Liverpool 2122LP/44/354 > > Marriages 1873 > STUBBS Ann to ALDRIDGE John Liverpool, St. Peter Liverpool 2122LP/61/223 > > 1881 > John and Ann ALDRIDGE living next door to William and Ann KNOX on Tamworth > Street (in cellars) Toxteth Park! > > Do you think that perhaps William KNOX is step-father to Ann and her real > maiden name was STUBBS? > > Thank you > > Ian > > ;) > > ----------------------------------------- > Email sent from www.ntlworld.com > Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software > Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information > > > ==== ENG-MERSEYSIDE Mailing List ==== > You can search or browse the archives of this list and also change > membership - move from digest to normal mail mode, or vice versa and sub > and unsub at this link > > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/ENG/ENG-MERSEYSIDE.html > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >

Joseph Nicholls, picture taken 1860s, M. Quillish, photographer, 8 Soho St,Islington, Liverpool~ in uniform~ http://community.webshots.com/photo/549458762/2829760810082135343PfYSmo I think that he may be a volunteer(shako hat). He has an artillery pin on sleeve. He may have been in India in 1850s, and again around 1868 and 1869 (when my great great grandfather Robert Ashley Nicholls,was born ( July 1868/9). He was back in Liverpool in 1870 (child born in December). I would like to be able to identify what regiment he was in. I am hoping someone might have some ideas. I was able to find Joseph in 1851 census in Liverpool (he was listed as Josh Nichols) age 22, Dale Street, occupation painter. I have not been able to find him in 1861 census, or a marriage record (yet) for Joseph Nicholls and Susannah Smith. I found him in 1871 in England~ Joseph Nicholls and Susannah were living in North Meols, Lancashire County, England. Joseph Nicholls was listed as head of family, age 42, painter, born in Liverpool, Lancashire County, England. Susannah, his wife, was age 38, born in Tranmere, Cheshire County, England Children listed were Adalaide Nicholls, age 4 and Robert age 3 (both born in Southport, Lancashire County, England).I found Adelaide in BMD, but not Robert. Robert's marriage and death records (and census records) in the USA all list Benares India as place of birth. Susan Tyson Ga, USA

Hi Can I just bounce this off you all - I think I have found the missing John ALDRIDGE to Ann KNOX marriage. Their eldest child born 1873 (my direct ancestor, his mother's maiden name as KNOX) - various searches for marriage draw a blank. Then today I stumbled over this entry Marriages 1863 HEALING Ann to KNOX William Liverpool, St. Peter Liverpool 2122LP/44/354 STUBBS Ann to KNOX William Liverpool, St. Peter Liverpool 2122LP/44/354 Marriages 1873 STUBBS Ann to ALDRIDGE John Liverpool, St. Peter Liverpool 2122LP/61/223 1881 John and Ann ALDRIDGE living next door to William and Ann KNOX on Tamworth Street (in cellars) Toxteth Park! Do you think that perhaps William KNOX is step-father to Ann and her real maiden name was STUBBS? Thank you Ian ;) ----------------------------------------- Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information

Pity Lancashire wasn't included! After all we know ancient man walked along the shore at Formby as he kindly left his footprints behind! Dorothy Dover Kent Uk

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I am researching the following names - BANKS : Stretton (Cheshire), Manchester (Lancs) BRADBURY : Lymm(Cheshire) BROWNBILL : St Helens (Lancs) CALLAGHAN : St Helens (Lancs), Ireland DANIELS : Bowdon (Cheshire) GABRIEL : St Helens (Lancs), Liverpool (Lancs), Dublin (Ireland) GARDNER : Dublin (Ireland) GRATWICH : Barlaston (Staffs) HIGHAM : Lymm (Cheshire), Leigh (Lancs) JOHNSON : Over Peover (Cheshire) JOHNSON : Barlaston (Staffs) JOHNS(T)ON : Wallasey (Cheshire), Birkenhead (Cheshire), Hull (East Riding), North Shields/Tynemouth (Northumberland), Ryton (Co. Durham) JONES : Whitchurch (Shrops) LEIGH : Lymm (Cheshire) MILLER : Lymm (Cheshire), Grappenhall (Cheshire) MOSTON/MOSSON : Lymm (Cheshire), Over Peover (Cheshire), Marthall (Cheshire), Snelson (Cheshire) MYCOCK : Barlaston (Staffs) NORBURY : Liverpool (Lancs) PERCIVAL : Lymm (Cheshire), Antrobus (Cheshire) RICHARDSON : Lymm (Cheshire), Prescot (Lancs) TABERN : St Helens (Lancs) THOMPSON : North Shields/Tynemouth (Northumberland) WILLIAMSON : Cheshire WINSTANLEY : Lymm (Cheshire) WOOTTON : Barlaston (Staffs), Moddershall (Staffs), Stone (Staffs) I would be pleased to hear from anyone with similar interests. Thanks Tim

Dear Jennifer Unfortunately, I don't think so. I have Elizabeth Pierce (age 20, of 13 Smollett Street, daughter of George Pierce, gas fitter) marrying John Seymore McIntyre in 1888 in West Derby. I don't have any more information yet, I'm afraid! Best wishes Jess