Gday to you Bill - yes, we had a lady and a new baby staying with us for some months, after Liverpool's May Blitz, but while the bombing and the Buzz Bombs were still going on in London. We were very close to the "Automatic Telephone Company" in Edge Lane, which had been transformed into a munitions factory, so Gerry was always after bombing that, but he always missed Marged Gday Marged, It always amazes me why some people were evacuated from one hot spot to another. I lived in Litherland and right across the road from our house was the Diamond Match works,behind the house was the railways,both were bombed and we had evacuees put into our home from London, there must have been far more safer places to be sent. Bert in Oz Marged wrote: >It's funny you should mention the country, Audrey, because one of the children did ask would people out in the country still be able to keep bees and get honey - "Oh yes", I said "And they would keep chickens and have more than our ration of one egg per week - and the would keep pigs and be able to have more bacon and pork" > >Marged > >

The culture shock of a different language and rural farming area would have been extreme. i know one of mother's friends son suffered all his life as a result. We were 5 when war broke out. His faather had lost a leg in the First World war. Audrey -- > From: Marged <marged36@btopenworld.com> > Reply-To: eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com > Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 16:17:16 +0100 > To: eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] Visiting St Patrick's SOUTHPORT > > Audrey, the children were VERY interested in the evacuation - just couldn't > imagine how they would feel if it had happened to them! > > Marj > > > It shows you were a hit!!!! > > Audrey NZ > I was voluntarily evacuated to Southport with my mother in WW2, the school > Waterloo Primary was evacuated to Wales. > -- > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-MERSEYSIDE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

It shows you were a hit!!!! Audrey NZ I was voluntarily evacuated to Southport with my mother in WW2, the school Waterloo Primary was evacuated to Wales. -- > From: Marged <marged36@btopenworld.com> > Reply-To: eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com > Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 15:23:34 +0100 > To: MERSEYSIDE <ENG-MERSEYSIDE-L@rootsweb.com>, SOUTHPORT > <ENG-LAN-SOUTHPORT@rootsweb.com> > Subject: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] Visiting St Patrick's SOUTHPORT > > We have just been to St Patrick's school to talk to the 6/7 year olds about > "What it was like to be a child during WW2" > > We don't so much give a talk - the children have been doing their work at > school, and they are ready with questions. Some of the questions are very > informed, but some of them tend towards "What was your favourite toy?" sort > of thing. > > It's surprising how emotional some of the questions make me feel and I have > to gather myself before I can answer - such as "Did you know anyone who was > killed during the war?" or "Was your daddy at the D-Day Landings?" > > At the end of the session, we all sang "We're going to hang out the washing > on the Siegfried line", and a little girl brought me a bouquet, then to my > amazement, all the children came forward of their own accord to give us both > hugs and kisses! > > > nARGED > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-MERSEYSIDE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi - I wonder if Jess would send details (link) of this site. I have tried getting into the list to find her mail, but at the moment I can't get into Liverpool Roots mailing list. In fact I can't get into any of the 24 lists I am subscribed to. I wonder if anyone else if having this problem? I wrote to Roots about it but didn't get anything helpful in reply. I am getting mail from the lists - but not all of it as I never got the one with Jess's site on - or readding the replies - i obviously didn't get some of the questions! When I go to my Roots link I find all my subscriptions listed there. But when I looked a few days ago they had split into two sections - the top section remained in Caps as always and the bottom half was in lower case. I couldn't get into the bootom haf at all. Now I look and they are all in lower case and I can't get into any of them! If anyone has had this problem recently and has solved it - please, please let me know! - Jackie Thanks for that Jess. A facinating site. I was particularly interested in the Camell Laird link. My brother was doing his marine draughtman apprenticeship with them and he did his practical on the Ark Royal. On the subject of WW2 I was 6 when it started. And living in the comparative safety of Bromborough Wirral. For some reason best known to herself my Mum decided to help the war effort by going to work at the factory in Capenhurst and so sent us- my brother and I- to live with our grandparents in Index St. Liverpool. I went to Arnott St. School during our time there. And was very proud to be at the school my Mum went to with her brother and 2 sisters. I remember well the nights spent in the nearby Air Raid shelter and the cameraderie,singing and sharing of refreshments that went on. We were not there on the fateful night when Index St. was laid waste by bombs. My Grandparents came out of the shelter to find their home gone. They went to live in Towyn North Wales on a holiday campsite. They had one of the old railway carriages there and us kid thought it was the best place to stay!! My cousins who lived in Bootle were evacuated to Kimnel Bay and shared the house with a family of refugees from The Channel Islands. They were market gardeners and grew the most fantastic carrots and tomatoes in the garden!! There are so many memories. I could write a book!! My own Grandchildren love to hear what it was like to live through a war. For our parents it must have been a most anxious time. Particularly for Mums and their kids whithout Dad who was away fighting. My Dad was in the Royal Navy as were his brothers. All of them experienced seafarers before the out break of war. We were a very lucky family. All of us came through safely but oh so many didn't. Thank you Marged for initiating the discusion. Very relevant I think for our Merseyside list. Margaret in Australia

There used to be some very large tombstones in St James's cemetery commemorating orphans who died in the cholera epidemics in the 1840s. I do not know if they are still there. -----Original Message----- From: eng-merseyside-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-merseyside-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of JessMcKenn@aol.com Sent: 19 October 2006 19:23 To: eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] Let's get it going! Dear List This is not remotely connected to Marged's message, but I am somewhat curious about what happened to my ancestors. Several died in the late 1800s in the Liverpool courts and I wonder where they were buried. Would anyone know how the poor buried their dead? I am rather assuming they would be in unmarked public graves. Have found some pictures of the courts where they lived at _http://www.mersey-gateway.org/_ (http://www.mersey-gateway.org/) which is fascinating. I am concentrating at the moment on the following Liverpool families: the McIntyres from 1861 onwards (originally from Belfast), the Budworths from the 1840s onwards (originally from Nottingham) and the Carters from the 1850s onwards (originally Seacombe). I think some of the McIntyres returned to Ireland after 1901 as I can't find them anywhere. If anyone has any experience of tracing family in Belfast before 1860 and after 1901 I would love to have some pointers. Many thanks Jess ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-MERSEYSIDE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.5/483 - Release Date: 18/10/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.5/483 - Release Date: 18/10/2006

It's funny you should mention the country, Audrey, because one of the children did ask would people out in the country still be able to keep bees and get honey - "Oh yes", I said "And they would keep chickens and have more than our ration of one egg per week - and the would keep pigs and be able to have more bacon and pork" Marged The culture shock of a different language and rural farming area would have been extreme. i know one of mother's friends son suffered all his life as a result. We were 5 when war broke out. His faather had lost a leg in the First World war. Audrey --

How lovely - we hear a lot about children and the bad things they do, but sometimes, we get a little picture of what they are really like inside! Marged A few years ago my dad gave a talk to some children about the war - they loved it and so did he. When he died they all signed a card for him and we were very touched.

A few years ago my dad gave a talk to some children about the war - they loved it and so did he. When he died they all signed a card for him and we were very touched. -----Original Message----- From: eng-merseyside-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-merseyside-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Marged Sent: 19 October 2006 16:17 To: eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] Visiting St Patrick's SOUTHPORT Audrey, the children were VERY interested in the evacuation - just couldn't imagine how they would feel if it had happened to them! Marj It shows you were a hit!!!! Audrey NZ I was voluntarily evacuated to Southport with my mother in WW2, the school Waterloo Primary was evacuated to Wales. -- ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-MERSEYSIDE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.5/483 - Release Date: 18/10/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.5/483 - Release Date: 18/10/2006

It's been very quiet on the list lately, and that's why I sent my last posting about visiting the school. It may have seemed rather Off Topic, but it wasn't really - what I was talking about was Merseyside's involvement in WW2, to a bunch of little children whose postal address is Merseyside. So how about it - does anyone have any memories of WW2 on Merseyside, or any questions to ask about what it was like for your forebears? Marged

What a memorable and emotional day you both must have had.....such lovely gesture too Marj, the children will remember you and there lesson for the rest of their lives. Lesley ---Original Message----- Marj We have just been to St Patrick's school to talk to the 6/7 year olds about "What it was like to be a child during WW2"

Audrey, the children were VERY interested in the evacuation - just couldn't imagine how they would feel if it had happened to them! Marj It shows you were a hit!!!! Audrey NZ I was voluntarily evacuated to Southport with my mother in WW2, the school Waterloo Primary was evacuated to Wales. --

We have just been to St Patrick's school to talk to the 6/7 year olds about "What it was like to be a child during WW2" We don't so much give a talk - the children have been doing their work at school, and they are ready with questions. Some of the questions are very informed, but some of them tend towards "What was your favourite toy?" sort of thing. It's surprising how emotional some of the questions make me feel and I have to gather myself before I can answer - such as "Did you know anyone who was killed during the war?" or "Was your daddy at the D-Day Landings?" At the end of the session, we all sang "We're going to hang out the washing on the Siegfried line", and a little girl brought me a bouquet, then to my amazement, all the children came forward of their own accord to give us both hugs and kisses! nARGED

Dear List This is not remotely connected to Marged's message, but I am somewhat curious about what happened to my ancestors. Several died in the late 1800s in the Liverpool courts and I wonder where they were buried. Would anyone know how the poor buried their dead? I am rather assuming they would be in unmarked public graves. Have found some pictures of the courts where they lived at _http://www.mersey-gateway.org/_ (http://www.mersey-gateway.org/) which is fascinating. I am concentrating at the moment on the following Liverpool families: the McIntyres from 1861 onwards (originally from Belfast), the Budworths from the 1840s onwards (originally from Nottingham) and the Carters from the 1850s onwards (originally Seacombe). I think some of the McIntyres returned to Ireland after 1901 as I can't find them anywhere. If anyone has any experience of tracing family in Belfast before 1860 and after 1901 I would love to have some pointers. Many thanks Jess

Found a small image from Google , hope it is the right one. Sent off list Lesley : ) -----Original Message----- On Behalf Of Raymond Fowler Hello I am new to this list. Have just been to St. Helens to get a photo of St Thomas, which I did, then found that the present church was built in 1909 to replace an earlier one, as seen on inscription on foundation stone.

Hello I am new to this list. Have just been to St. Helens to get a photo of St Thomas, which I did, then found that the present church was built in 1909 to replace an earlier one, as seen on inscription on foundation stone. My wife has a family marriage there in 1848. Can anyone tell me about the earlier building? Does anyone know where I can get a picture of the earlier one? Names we are looking at in St. Helens and district are: GREENALL /GREENOUGH. BYROM /BYRON. Thanks Ray Fowler.

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EDWARD COE born Cheetham Lancashire in 1875. Father Edward COE Dentist born Norwich 1849 with his surgery in Anson st. Liverpool in the 1881 census. Mother Mary Jane Cavendish born North Meols Southport Lancashire. Brother Frederick William COE born Liverpool 1878- My Grandfather- In the 1891 census -after the deaths of their father and mother my Grandad went to the Liverpool Industrial School - posh name for the workhouse- and ended up in the Navy. I can't find any mention of his brother Edward anywhere and I would like to know what could have become of him. Their Grand parents Edward and Elizabeth Coe lived in Clare Suffolk and doing very nicely thankyou but no interest in the plight of their 2 Grandsons in Liverpool by the looks of it. I wondered if any of you listers had any bright ideas as to where I can look for Edward Coe the youngest. I am beginning to think he may have emigrated to America or somewhere. By the way Marged we had Sybil and Graeme from Brisbane down here for the day a while back and had a real -almost 10 hours -talkfest about their travels in the U.K and meeting you. Margaret in Australia.

Hi Yes thanks very much Jackie. It has answered many of my geography questions too! What a fantastic site. Cheers, Kelly

Hi Listers, Here are some DETAILS and names linked to Francis W. H and Sarah Ann RICHARDS, if anyone is connected please contact me. I can't find a marriage c1859-1865 and have even searched for 5 years either side of those dates. Sarah born c1843 Norwich Norfolk, possible daughter of Robert and Charlotte Burgess or John and Sarah Burgess of Norwich. Francis born c1836 London, however his Mother Mary HAZLEHURST was born in Dawley Magna, Shropshire c1807, daughter of William HAZLEHURST. Mary married James Monro RICHARDS in 1839 in St Matthew, Bethnal Green. London. Toxteth Francis and Sarah lived in: RANKIN ST, BELOE ST, WILLIAMS PLACE, WOODRUFF ST, usually with a Robert and Mary BURGESS, who's relationship is never stated on the censuses. CHILDREN, These are the ones who survived in adulthood. William Robert Martin Hazlehurst RICHARDS BORN 1875 may have married in Sep qtr 1893 to a Caroline Augusta Reynolds. Mary Ann Richards bn 1865 married Edward David GRIFFITH-JONES and later lived in Tranmere, Birkenhead. She is my great grandmother. Elizabeth Ann RICHARDS bn 1872 married Thomas HAYES in 1890, had at least two children Thomas and Sarah. Francis Frederick RICHARDS BN 1879 married Lavinia Mary DAVIS Gertrude RICHARDS BN 1882 LIVED IN 1901 AT 127 Seabank Road, Wallasey aged 18 bn Liverpool as a domestic servant for Wilson Shelmerdine an Insurance agent. Any connection sought Thanks Wendy

Hi Marged. I think it was Bootle, Mary Ann died giving birth to twins in April 1901 Do you think, I dont know where they were in 1900 though. Thank you Irene. > Do you have any idea what district they lived or worked in, Irene? > > Marged > Hi Would it be possible to look up Thomas Williams or his wife Mary A > Mortimer, she used to breed dogs and show them at Crufts, so I thought > she > might just use her maiden name, worth a try I suppose/ Thank you > Irene > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-MERSEYSIDE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >