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    1. [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] Melbourne scousers and my Surnames again!
    2. margaret davies
    3. Do give us a contact address Maureen. My name is Margaret by the way. I am writing my life story-strictly for the benefit of my family and descendents- I will have to go into more detail of the war years. I have reached 1965 when we came out to Australia with 5 of our 7 children. Contact me privately so as not to antagonize listers who are continuing to do serious research into their Merseyside roots. maglez@bigpond.com My Surnames. My Great Grandfather William James FLETCHER pre 1875 he is my double brick wall. My Dad was very vague about who his Grandad was and where he came from. Lancashire he said, but that could include bits of Cheshire in those days too. Especially around the Runcorn /Manchester area. Edward COE- my Grandad Frederick William Coe's Brother. Edward was born in Manchester but was on the 1881 census in Liverpool with his Dad the notorious Edward COE the Dentist and my Grandad Frederick. What I really would like is to contact someone connected with my COE,MANNING, CAVENDISH, JACKSON, WOODING surnames, and FLETCHER,O'BRIEN,AUSTIN, GRIMES, MASSEY,HUNT,BANNER surnames. All of them residing in Merseyside -as it now is- during their lives. Margaret in Australia.

    10/23/2006 03:52:05
    1. Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] An Aussie/Scousers get together
    2. Audrey Jones
    3. Also. My cousin lives in Melbourne and his father is moving to buy a house there. Audrey Jones NZ don't think we are related though!!! -- > Hello, Details please of "Merseysiders" club in Victoria > Ann Higginson, [nee Jones ][from Wallasey}, now in Melbourne > > -----Original Message----- > From: eng-merseyside-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:eng-merseyside-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of MargDave > Sent: Sunday, 22 October 2006 5:34 PM > To: eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] An Aussie/Scousers get together > > I would certainly like a copy of your book also Maureen!! > Although born just after the war, I can recall the stories my Mother and > aunts told me of their experiences during the war. > As I also now live in Australia, thought I would mention the 'Merseysiders' > club here in Victoria which has been going for quite a number of years. If > anyone is interested..... > Marg from Melbourne Oz > > -----Original Message----- > From: eng-merseyside-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:eng-merseyside-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Ron Fitzpatrick > Sent: Sunday, 22 October 2006 10:32 AM > To: eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] An Aussie/Scousers get together > > Margaret, > > I would like a copy, Please!! > > Ron Fitzpatrick. > Adelaide > South Australian Scouser. > Ex Liverpool. > > ----- Original Message ----- > Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 9:53 AM > Subject: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] An Aussie/Scousers get together > > >> What a splendid idea Maureen! I'm on the Far South Coast nr. Bega. I have >> friends in Brisbane and Adelaide. We might all have to meet in the middle >> at Ulluru. There must be more of us around. Kiwis welcome too of course!! >> A nice thought Maureen but probably not very practical in veiw of the vast > >> distances in our country.Strictly speaking I'm not a scouser but my Mum >> was. I love the idea of the cushion over your heads to confuse the enemy >> bombers?!. Or was it to save a nasty bump on the head due to flying >> shrapnel?!! Our Anderson shelter was at the bottom of our garden. A deep >> hole in the ground with curved corrugated iron over it. We would stand in > >> the back doorway waiting for a lull and my Mum to say "Run!!,NOW" >> She was worried about the canary in case of gas. She was told they hadn't >> got around to gas masks for canaries yet. My little brother's had a mickey > >> mouse face. I was envious. Mine was just a plain boring black one. At >> school we had to wear our gasmasks for half an hour every day during >> lessons. To get us used to the idea I presume. Moving into the underground > >> shelters on the school playing fields when the Air Raid warning sounded >> was a well rehearsed procedure. Monitors carried blankets and First Aid >> boxes etc while the rest of us took whatever was with us at the time to do > >> with the lesson in progress. We always went in through the big doors but >> had to come out when the All Clear sounded by climbing up the iron ladder >> and squeezing through the escape hatch at the other end. There always >> seemed to be water slopping around under the duck boards. I wonder now how > >> we ever managed to learn anything. >> Marged will be wondering if it was a good idea to revive all these old WW2 > >> memories! I will write that book Marged but it definately won't be >> published!! Margaret >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ENG-MERSEYSIDE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-MERSEYSIDE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-MERSEYSIDE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-MERSEYSIDE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    10/22/2006 11:45:54
    1. [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] FW: An Aussie/Scousers get together
    2. MargDave
    3. I would certainly like a copy of your book also Maureen!! Although born just after the war, I can recall the stories my Mother and aunts told me of their experiences during the war. As I also now live in Australia, thought I would mention the 'Merseysiders' club here in Victoria which has been going for quite a number of years. If anyone is interested..... Marg from Melbourne Oz -----Original Message----- From: eng-merseyside-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-merseyside-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Ron Fitzpatrick Sent: Sunday, 22 October 2006 10:32 AM To: eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] An Aussie/Scousers get together Margaret, I would like a copy, Please!! Ron Fitzpatrick. Adelaide South Australian Scouser. Ex Liverpool. ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 9:53 AM Subject: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] An Aussie/Scousers get together > What a splendid idea Maureen! I'm on the Far South Coast nr. Bega. I have > friends in Brisbane and Adelaide. We might all have to meet in the middle > at Ulluru. There must be more of us around. Kiwis welcome too of course!! > A nice thought Maureen but probably not very practical in veiw of the vast > distances in our country.Strictly speaking I'm not a scouser but my Mum > was. I love the idea of the cushion over your heads to confuse the enemy > bombers?!. Or was it to save a nasty bump on the head due to flying > shrapnel?!! Our Anderson shelter was at the bottom of our garden. A deep > hole in the ground with curved corrugated iron over it. We would stand in > the back doorway waiting for a lull and my Mum to say "Run!!,NOW" > She was worried about the canary in case of gas. She was told they hadn't > got around to gas masks for canaries yet. My little brother's had a mickey > mouse face. I was envious. Mine was just a plain boring black one. At > school we had to wear our gasmasks for half an hour every day during > lessons. To get us used to the idea I presume. Moving into the underground > shelters on the school playing fields when the Air Raid warning sounded > was a well rehearsed procedure. Monitors carried blankets and First Aid > boxes etc while the rest of us took whatever was with us at the time to do > with the lesson in progress. We always went in through the big doors but > had to come out when the All Clear sounded by climbing up the iron ladder > and squeezing through the escape hatch at the other end. There always > seemed to be water slopping around under the duck boards. I wonder now how > we ever managed to learn anything. > Marged will be wondering if it was a good idea to revive all these old WW2 > memories! I will write that book Marged but it definately won't be > published!! Margaret > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-MERSEYSIDE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-MERSEYSIDE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-MERSEYSIDE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    10/22/2006 03:21:07
    1. Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] An Aussie/Scousers get together
    2. Ann
    3. Hello, Details please of "Merseysiders" club in Victoria Ann Higginson, [nee Jones ][from Wallasey}, now in Melbourne -----Original Message----- From: eng-merseyside-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-merseyside-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of MargDave Sent: Sunday, 22 October 2006 5:34 PM To: eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] An Aussie/Scousers get together I would certainly like a copy of your book also Maureen!! Although born just after the war, I can recall the stories my Mother and aunts told me of their experiences during the war. As I also now live in Australia, thought I would mention the 'Merseysiders' club here in Victoria which has been going for quite a number of years. If anyone is interested..... Marg from Melbourne Oz -----Original Message----- From: eng-merseyside-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-merseyside-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Ron Fitzpatrick Sent: Sunday, 22 October 2006 10:32 AM To: eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] An Aussie/Scousers get together Margaret, I would like a copy, Please!! Ron Fitzpatrick. Adelaide South Australian Scouser. Ex Liverpool. ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 9:53 AM Subject: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] An Aussie/Scousers get together > What a splendid idea Maureen! I'm on the Far South Coast nr. Bega. I have > friends in Brisbane and Adelaide. We might all have to meet in the middle > at Ulluru. There must be more of us around. Kiwis welcome too of course!! > A nice thought Maureen but probably not very practical in veiw of the vast > distances in our country.Strictly speaking I'm not a scouser but my Mum > was. I love the idea of the cushion over your heads to confuse the enemy > bombers?!. Or was it to save a nasty bump on the head due to flying > shrapnel?!! Our Anderson shelter was at the bottom of our garden. A deep > hole in the ground with curved corrugated iron over it. We would stand in > the back doorway waiting for a lull and my Mum to say "Run!!,NOW" > She was worried about the canary in case of gas. She was told they hadn't > got around to gas masks for canaries yet. My little brother's had a mickey > mouse face. I was envious. Mine was just a plain boring black one. At > school we had to wear our gasmasks for half an hour every day during > lessons. To get us used to the idea I presume. Moving into the underground > shelters on the school playing fields when the Air Raid warning sounded > was a well rehearsed procedure. Monitors carried blankets and First Aid > boxes etc while the rest of us took whatever was with us at the time to do > with the lesson in progress. We always went in through the big doors but > had to come out when the All Clear sounded by climbing up the iron ladder > and squeezing through the escape hatch at the other end. There always > seemed to be water slopping around under the duck boards. I wonder now how > we ever managed to learn anything. > Marged will be wondering if it was a good idea to revive all these old WW2 > memories! I will write that book Marged but it definately won't be > published!! Margaret > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-MERSEYSIDE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-MERSEYSIDE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-MERSEYSIDE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    10/22/2006 03:15:18
    1. [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] ANNIE GOUGH
    2. tom harrison
    3. Can anyone help with my search for my grandmother and her parents.ANNIE GOUGH b 1887 m JAMES CLEGG on the 6th march 1905 at the register office West Derby. ANNIES father is named as JOHN GOUGH deceased. ANNIES address on her marriage cert. is 23 Zaule st Kirkdale. I cant find any record in the 1891 census for ANNIE or JOHN. Any help will be much appreciated. Tom Harrison

    10/22/2006 01:28:58
    1. Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] An Aussie/Scousers get together
    2. MargDave
    3. I would certainly like a copy of your book also Maureen!! Although born just after the war, I can recall the stories my Mother and aunts told me of their experiences during the war. As I also now live in Australia, thought I would mention the 'Merseysiders' club here in Victoria which has been going for quite a number of years. If anyone is interested..... Marg from Melbourne Oz -----Original Message----- From: eng-merseyside-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-merseyside-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Ron Fitzpatrick Sent: Sunday, 22 October 2006 10:32 AM To: eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] An Aussie/Scousers get together Margaret, I would like a copy, Please!! Ron Fitzpatrick. Adelaide South Australian Scouser. Ex Liverpool. ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 9:53 AM Subject: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] An Aussie/Scousers get together > What a splendid idea Maureen! I'm on the Far South Coast nr. Bega. I have > friends in Brisbane and Adelaide. We might all have to meet in the middle > at Ulluru. There must be more of us around. Kiwis welcome too of course!! > A nice thought Maureen but probably not very practical in veiw of the vast > distances in our country.Strictly speaking I'm not a scouser but my Mum > was. I love the idea of the cushion over your heads to confuse the enemy > bombers?!. Or was it to save a nasty bump on the head due to flying > shrapnel?!! Our Anderson shelter was at the bottom of our garden. A deep > hole in the ground with curved corrugated iron over it. We would stand in > the back doorway waiting for a lull and my Mum to say "Run!!,NOW" > She was worried about the canary in case of gas. She was told they hadn't > got around to gas masks for canaries yet. My little brother's had a mickey > mouse face. I was envious. Mine was just a plain boring black one. At > school we had to wear our gasmasks for half an hour every day during > lessons. To get us used to the idea I presume. Moving into the underground > shelters on the school playing fields when the Air Raid warning sounded > was a well rehearsed procedure. Monitors carried blankets and First Aid > boxes etc while the rest of us took whatever was with us at the time to do > with the lesson in progress. We always went in through the big doors but > had to come out when the All Clear sounded by climbing up the iron ladder > and squeezing through the escape hatch at the other end. There always > seemed to be water slopping around under the duck boards. I wonder now how > we ever managed to learn anything. > Marged will be wondering if it was a good idea to revive all these old WW2 > memories! I will write that book Marged but it definately won't be > published!! Margaret > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-MERSEYSIDE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-MERSEYSIDE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    10/22/2006 11:34:02
    1. Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] Wirral/birkinhead - Hine Family Louise
    2. LiverpoolLady
    3. Name: Ernest Hine Year of Registration: 1883 Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar District: Stratford Upon Avon County: Gloucestershire, Warwickshire, Worcestershire Volume: 6d Page: 653 Will keep looking for the death....but here is the birth from Ancestry.Lesley -----Original Message----- On Behalf Of Louise Watch Ernest Hine, was born in 1883 in Stratford Upon Avon before moving to Cardiff

    10/22/2006 09:45:25
    1. [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] Wirral/birkinhead - Hine Family
    2. Louise Watch
    3. I am researching the name Hine (grandmother's side) and information on Spiller Flour Mills). Her father secured work in Spiller Flour Mills (now Millenium Mills/ housing). He, Ernest Hine, was born in 1883 in Stratford Upon Avon before moving to Cardiff as a child and then to birkenhead between 1915 and 1926 to take his post at the Mill. His wife Esther (Hetty) was born in 1883 in Cardiff. They had three children, Audrey b 1917 - living, Enid (died a few months ago) and Murial my grandmother born in 1915 in Cardiff. When they moved to Wallesy she lived about a few miles from a Kodak printers shop where she worked as a young woman painting colour on the photographs (and met her husband who delivered them). At some point they moved to North Wales where Hetty died in 1978 and where Murial and Audrey now live. I can not find a death date for Ernest and all I know is that my grandmother recalls he lived well into old Age. Hetty died in North Wales but I can not find Ernest on any BMD index so far - hard when I don't know what year and it was a popular name/surname. My grandmother had only Hetty's death certificate. Any leads or places I can search would be useful. (Smyth is the other name I am looking into - Murial's Husband, Charles). cheers Louise Watch donna_louise@blueyonder.co.uk

    10/22/2006 07:40:11
    1. [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] An Aussie/Scousers get together
    2. margaret davies
    3. What a splendid idea Maureen! I'm on the Far South Coast nr. Bega. I have friends in Brisbane and Adelaide. We might all have to meet in the middle at Ulluru. There must be more of us around. Kiwis welcome too of course!! A nice thought Maureen but probably not very practical in veiw of the vast distances in our country.Strictly speaking I'm not a scouser but my Mum was. I love the idea of the cushion over your heads to confuse the enemy bombers?!. Or was it to save a nasty bump on the head due to flying shrapnel?!! Our Anderson shelter was at the bottom of our garden. A deep hole in the ground with curved corrugated iron over it. We would stand in the back doorway waiting for a lull and my Mum to say "Run!!,NOW" She was worried about the canary in case of gas. She was told they hadn't got around to gas masks for canaries yet. My little brother's had a mickey mouse face. I was envious. Mine was just a plain boring black one. At school we had to wear our gasmasks for half an hour every day during lessons. To get us used to the idea I presume. Moving into the underground shelters on the school playing fields when the Air Raid warning sounded was a well rehearsed procedure. Monitors carried blankets and First Aid boxes etc while the rest of us took whatever was with us at the time to do with the lesson in progress. We always went in through the big doors but had to come out when the All Clear sounded by climbing up the iron ladder and squeezing through the escape hatch at the other end. There always seemed to be water slopping around under the duck boards. I wonder now how we ever managed to learn anything. Marged will be wondering if it was a good idea to revive all these old WW2 memories! I will write that book Marged but it definately won't be published!! Margaret

    10/22/2006 04:23:12
    1. Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] An Aussie/Scousers get together
    2. Ron Fitzpatrick
    3. Margaret, I would like a copy, Please!! Ron Fitzpatrick. Adelaide South Australian Scouser. Ex Liverpool. ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 9:53 AM Subject: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] An Aussie/Scousers get together > What a splendid idea Maureen! I'm on the Far South Coast nr. Bega. I have > friends in Brisbane and Adelaide. We might all have to meet in the middle > at Ulluru. There must be more of us around. Kiwis welcome too of course!! > A nice thought Maureen but probably not very practical in veiw of the vast > distances in our country.Strictly speaking I'm not a scouser but my Mum > was. I love the idea of the cushion over your heads to confuse the enemy > bombers?!. Or was it to save a nasty bump on the head due to flying > shrapnel?!! Our Anderson shelter was at the bottom of our garden. A deep > hole in the ground with curved corrugated iron over it. We would stand in > the back doorway waiting for a lull and my Mum to say "Run!!,NOW" > She was worried about the canary in case of gas. She was told they hadn't > got around to gas masks for canaries yet. My little brother's had a mickey > mouse face. I was envious. Mine was just a plain boring black one. At > school we had to wear our gasmasks for half an hour every day during > lessons. To get us used to the idea I presume. Moving into the underground > shelters on the school playing fields when the Air Raid warning sounded > was a well rehearsed procedure. Monitors carried blankets and First Aid > boxes etc while the rest of us took whatever was with us at the time to do > with the lesson in progress. We always went in through the big doors but > had to come out when the All Clear sounded by climbing up the iron ladder > and squeezing through the escape hatch at the other end. There always > seemed to be water slopping around under the duck boards. I wonder now how > we ever managed to learn anything. > Marged will be wondering if it was a good idea to revive all these old WW2 > memories! I will write that book Marged but it definately won't be > published!! Margaret > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-MERSEYSIDE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    10/22/2006 04:01:32
    1. Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] (no subject)
    2. blythswood
    3. If you look carefully at the information at the foot of your posting you'll see that in order to unsubscribe successfully from the Merseyside mailing list you need to have the word "REQUEST" in the e-mail address. From: "michael acton" <michaelacton587@msn.com> To: <eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 8:49 AM Subject: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] (no subject) > unsubsribe > >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >ENG-MERSEYSIDE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > >the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    10/22/2006 03:32:04
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    2. michael acton
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    10/22/2006 02:49:57
    1. Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] Merchantile Marine
    2. Errol MORGAN
    3. I don't know whether the following will be of any help to you - In June 1908 my uncle joined the Lancashire (Navy League) Sea Training Home in Wallasey (which is next door to Birkenhead). This was, in effect an orphanage. He was discharged from the Navy League about October 1911? His discharge certificate notes that he was a bandsman and played the B flat tenor horn. Page 186 of "The Rise and Progress of Wallasey" E.C.Woods & F.C.Brown has the following para:- "Adjoining Wallasey Grammar School in Withens Lane stood Clifton Hall, at one time the home of Peter Wright, Esq., Clerk of the Peace. Later it was occupied by Captain John Herron until his death on 5th May, 1897................The house was then converted into the Navy League's Lancashire Sea-training Home for boys. It was the first sea-school on land supported by public funds, and was originally for poor homeless boys between the ages of thirteen and sixteen years. In July 1905, H.M. King Edward VII inspected the boys and 'passed high encomiums on their smartness and worth' and in July 1906 the lads formed a guard of honour to H.R.H. the Duke of Connaught at Liverpool. In July 1908 a new building called "The Cheshire House" was to have been opened by H.R.H. Princess Louise but the ceremony was unavoidably postponed. The Navy League evacuated the school during World War II; it was vacant until taken over by the Wallasey Corporation and opened as Wallasey Technical College in 1949." Regards Errol in Marysville, Victoria, Australia

    10/22/2006 02:10:26
    1. Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] [ENG-LIV] Mercantile Marine
    2. Hi - I would like to thank listers for the invaluable help with 'Mercantile Marine' In particular Liz, John, Ron, Blythswood, Mike and Janet. A special thanks to Janet for all those links. There is an absolute lime of info there - not just about Liverpool and Merseyside - but much, much more - including Lancaster where I also have interests. My husband will be looking at the 'seagoing' sites there for hours and hours. I have compiled an info sheet (9 pages) about Watts Training School which has gone in the McCann folder. I think we will write to Dr Barnados - they were so helpful sending us info on my father-in-laws time with them and his entry papers, photos etc, I will ask them if they know where in Birkenhead area they would possibly have sent older boys for more training. Many, many thanks to you all - we were overwhelmed by the help - If I have missed anyone off the list please forgive me! - Jackie

    10/21/2006 10:36:57
    1. Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] Merchantile Marine
    2. Hi Errol - thank you for that - we did know of the existance of the Sea Training Home at Wallasey, but don't think father was ever there - he seems to have been Birkenhead based. Yes - I know its not far away - but still don't think he was there. But we are going to look for further info on the Wallasey school, out of interest if nothing more comes of it - many, many thanks - Jackie

    10/21/2006 09:52:03
    1. Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] Merchantile Marine
    2. Janet
    3. I would agree, hence my reason, earlier, for searching as wide as I did. Good luck Jackie. Janet ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Greig" > Jackie, > > 'mercantile marine' can just mean any shipping employed in commerce and so, > if you go into it, you would be becoming a sailor in commercial rather than > naval ships. However, in 1915/1916 the distinction could be rather fine as, > because of the U-boat menace often the merchant ships had some armament, > frequently of rather small calibre. > > I fear this might make your field of search much wider! > > John

    10/21/2006 12:45:44
    1. Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] Merchantile Marine
    2. John Greig
    3. Jackie, 'mercantile marine' can just mean any shipping employed in commerce and so, if you go into it, you would be becoming a sailor in commercial rather than naval ships. However, in 1915/1916 the distinction could be rather fine as, because of the U-boat menace often the merchant ships had some armament, frequently of rather small calibre. I fear this might make your field of search much wider! John

    10/21/2006 12:34:08
    1. [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] ELLIS, NELSON & EATON families - Seaforth
    2. pat
    3. The current 'Crosby Herald' has an interesting article concerning the discovery of letters, postcards and photographs from the 1920s to 40s, found when an attic was cleared in Seaforth. The finders passed them into safe keeping with Brenda Riddick, of the St John's History Group, based in Waterloo, who is keen to return them to relatives. I can let you have Brenda Riddick's phone number if you think they might be your family - one specific photo is of Marie Ellis, taken at Christ Church School concert in 1924. Pat

    10/21/2006 10:14:58
    1. Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] Merchantile Marine
    2. Janet
    3. Hi Jackie, "Mercantile Marine" rang a bell [excuse the pun] with me in that I thought I remembered it was an Insurance Company, rather like Lloyds. It seems "Mercantile Marine" might have been a "Scheme" for merchant seamen; http://www.boatingyellowpages.co.uk/dispcomp.asp?CompanyID=1013&src=atoz&intl=m my grandmother worked at the then Ministry of Pensions and I have based my searches on this knowledge. I've checked it out and found this http://www.mariners-l.co.uk/UKMasters.html which may go some way to an understanding, if not precisely the answer to your question. I've been looking for a Master Mariner who died 1837. :-( A mention of Barnardo's here: http://www.goldonian.org/photos/photo_archive_homes/pages/russel_coats.htm I have listed what I have found, otherwise, not having the time to check through all, in case they are of interest. http://www.mightyseas.co.uk/articles/awards.htm http://www.remembering.org.uk/mercantile_marine_memorial.htm http://www.bl.uk/collections/oiocfamilyhistory/familymaritime.html http://www.medals.org.uk/united-kingdom/united-kingdom151.htm Janet ----- Original Message ----- Jackie wrote: > Hi listers - I wonder if anyone can help with some information. My late > father-in-law was brought up at Watts Training School (after Dr Barardos) and > around 1915 (aged about 16) he was moved to Birkenhead - and we believe went on > to train at a place called Mercantile Marine. > > We can't seem to find out anything about this place - where it was, what > they did. My father-in-law went on to work for Cammel Lairds. As he died many. > many years ago we don't have anything about this period of his life. > > So we would be very for any information about just what Mercantile Marine > was/is, or where Barnardos boys would be sent around Birkenhead/Mersyside in > this period, after being at Watts Naval Training School - Jackie

    10/21/2006 06:30:21
    1. Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] trade directory lookup forThomasWilliams[pawnbroker] MaryA Mortimer pssr Dog Breeder
    2. Audrey Jones
    3. You could also try for Jones while you are at it? 1938 48 Bank Road Bootle trade unionist. Any one else at that address? -- > From: Marged <marged36@btopenworld.com> > Reply-To: eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com > Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 16:18:18 +0100 > To: eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] trade directory lookup > forThomasWilliams[pawnbroker] MaryA Mortimer pssr Dog Breeder > > Hi Irene > > I don't think I received any information about where they might have been > living, or running their businesses? > > Williams being such a common name I would need a bit of a time scale - What I > have is the Gores Directories for Liverpool (on disc) for the years 1911 and > 1938. > > I will have a look and see what I can come up with > > Marged > > > Hi Marged, > we were corresponding a short while ago re the names below, I answered your > emails but if you replied I think they might have gone astray ;-) I don't > want you to think that I am ignoring you. > Irene > --------------------------------------------- > > trade directory lookup for ThomasWilliams[pawnbroker] MaryA Mortimer pssr > Dog Breeder > > >> Do you have any idea what district they lived or worked in, Irene? >> >> Marged >> >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-MERSEYSIDE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

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