Hi, The Mariners Homes, were indeed homes for retired sea captains [and also I think for ordinary seamen] and their wives...The big red brick building, on the top of the hill, was (I believe} a nursing home.The houses on the next hill were the houses for more agile people. The Mariners hill was a great courting place, counting the stars ,and watching the ships?????????? Happy days......... My late husband Ron and I became engaged on the Hill Easter 1956 I do know that some of the old roof tiles, that were taken off the houses when some were demolished are now on my friends roof!!!!!! I took my Australian partner there last year, and there wasn't even a seat on the hill...I hope they have finished the work that was taking place then, and that the whole area will have been updated and restored to its former glory. Didn't get along the prom this year but the Egremont area is really looking good. I can recommend the food and views from the Egremont pub...again fond memories of it in the late 50,s when the boys used to play their guitars, and because the pub didn,t have a licence somebody wo, as uld push a bell, and the guitars went under the seat, as the police checked the premises....they'd give us a wink asd they passed, because of course they had heard the music from outside Ann Higginson [nee Jones Park Road Wallasey now Melbourne Australia -----Original Message----- From: eng-merseyside-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-merseyside-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Marged Sent: Thursday, 9 November 2006 9:56 AM To: Ron Fitzpatrick; eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] "The Mariners Homes - New Brighton" Does the picture show houses high above a grassy bank Ron? I seem to remember that we always thought that was where the sea captains lived, whose ships came into the Mersey. Sorry, but apart from that I don't know anything Marj I am an ex-pat, Born in Liverpool Raised in the Wirral area till aged 12, Emigrated with my family to Australia in 1953. I have a Postcard that shows "The Mariners Homes - New Brighton", could anyone please tell me where they where and some history on them. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-MERSEYSIDE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Another great piece of information - thanks to you, Gordon Marged You may be interested in this extract of a post I made to the Mariners List on 30 November last year in response to a similar question:- >The complex, situated just off Egremont Promenade on the Wirral banks of >the >River Mersey, is now known as Mariners Park and is operated by NUMAST >Welfare Funds - a registered charity. >A few of the original cottages (built in 1892 & 1898) still exist but most >of them (and the original building Cliff House) have been demolished & >replaced >by purpose-built modern accommodation. >Applications are invited from retired seafarers and widows of seafarers >and, >subject to availability, from dependants of seafarers. You'll find a little more information on :-

What a lovely, informative piece of writing Ann. Inspires me to take a trip to Egremont soon, rather than just New Brighton (which is looking better now than it did for years) Marged Hi, The Mariners Homes, were indeed homes for retired sea captains [and also I think for ordinary seamen] and their wives...The big red brick building, on the top of the hill, was (I believe} a nursing home.The houses on the next hill were the houses for more agile people. The Mariners hill was a great courting place, counting the stars ,and watching the ships?????????? Happy days......... My late husband Ron and I became engaged on the Hill Easter 1956 I do know that some of the old roof tiles, that were taken off the houses when some were demolished are now on my friends roof!!!!!! I took my Australian partner there last year, and there wasn't even a seat on the hill...I hope they have finished the work that was taking place then, and that the whole area will have been updated and restored to its former glory. Didn't get along the prom this year but the Egremont area is really looking good. I can recommend the food and views from the Egremont pub...again fond memories of it in the late 50,s when the boys used to play their guitars, and because the pub didn,t have a licence somebody wo, as uld push a bell, and the guitars went under the seat, as the police checked the premises....they'd give us a wink asd they passed, because of course they had heard the music from outside

Hi Folks, I am an ex-pat, Born in Liverpool Raised in the Wirral area till aged 12, Emigrated with my family to Australia in 1953. I have a Postcard that shows "The Mariners Homes - New Brighton", could anyone please tell me where they where and some history on them. This email was also sent to the Cheshire Family History Site. I do some Ancestry and have been successful in finding people in Australia, people in England have lost contact with (Unless major expenses are involved then you will be informed, otherwise No Charge) mainly via the Australian Electoral Rolls, please feel free to contact me. Thanking you very much. Ron Fitzpatrick Adelaide South Australia

Hi Ron You may be interested in this extract of a post I made to the Mariners List on 30 November last year in response to a similar question:- >The complex, situated just off Egremont Promenade on the Wirral banks of >the >River Mersey, is now known as Mariners Park and is operated by NUMAST >Welfare Funds - a registered charity. >A few of the original cottages (built in 1892 & 1898) still exist but most >of them (and the original building Cliff House) have been demolished & >replaced >by purpose-built modern accommodation. >Applications are invited from retired seafarers and widows of seafarers >and, >subject to availability, from dependants of seafarers. You'll find a little more information on :- http://www.nautilusuk.org/ngen_public/default.asp?id=409 and a map here :- http://www.ucarewecare.com/map.php?p=2&id=14640 There's also a publication available for purchase - The Story of Mariners Park, Wallasey, by Robert Currams & Mike Condon (ISBN-1-899241-11-6), cost around 7GBP. (Can't say I've ever heard of Mariner's Hill, though!). Best regards Gordon Wallasey UK (A mile from Mariners Park) >Hi Folks, >I am an ex-pat, Born in Liverpool Raised in the Wirral area till aged 12, >Emigrated with my family to Australia in 1953. >I have a Postcard that shows "The Mariners Homes - New Brighton", could >anyone please tell me where they where and some history on them. >Thanking you very much. >Ron Fitzpatrick >Adelaide >South Australia

Wobderful info! But where on the Wirral is Mariner's Hill???

Does the picture show houses high above a grassy bank Ron? I seem to remember that we always thought that was where the sea captains lived, whose ships came into the Mersey. Sorry, but apart from that I don't know anything Marj I am an ex-pat, Born in Liverpool Raised in the Wirral area till aged 12, Emigrated with my family to Australia in 1953. I have a Postcard that shows "The Mariners Homes - New Brighton", could anyone please tell me where they where and some history on them.

I thought you might be interested in what is contained in the death certificate. It's beautifully written, and quite clear. The identity of the Informant however, is identical to the deceased; both Alexander Sherratt, both of the same age, both of the same address. I would think the odds of that happening are quite short. Janet ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janet" >I want to thank all those who responded to my post about Ancestry.com I really do think its worth sharing thought and though I didn't deliberately set out to get look ups, in so doing, that was the end result. I have ordered the death certificate though I know I wont find the parents' names upon it. I am holding out all hope in the identity of the Informant but when families pursue a naming pattern, that may not necessarily be so. > > Good luck to you all in your searches. > > Janet > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Christine Cunningham" > >> Death details sent off list.

Tom, It's all an exercise of Mind over matter, If you don't Mind it Doesn't Matter. Good luck Ron. ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2006 10:33 PM Subject: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] Thanks > Many thanks to all who responded to my request (software) Special thanks > to > Lesley Culshaw & Ron Fitzpatrick for the info on all the web sites. > I have never known a group of people who are so helpful to each other, > > My Best Wishes > > Tom Harrison > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-MERSEYSIDE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Many thanks to all who responded to my request (software) Special thanks to Lesley Culshaw & Ron Fitzpatrick for the info on all the web sites. I have never known a group of people who are so helpful to each other, My Best Wishes Tom Harrison

Tom, The LDS (Later Day Saints - Mormons) have Free software for anyone to download and use, good to try out, they have a very, very large free Database, you don't have to be a Church member to use it, I have used it for years, and nobody has knocked on my door about it. Home Page http://www.familysearch.org/ Search Page http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/frameset_search.asp Software Downloads - Family History Centers (For Physical Lookups) http://www.ldscatalog.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CategoryDisplay?catalogId=10151&storeId=10151&categoryId=13669&langId=-1&cg1=&cg2=&cg3=&cg4=&cg5=-1&cg1=13669&cg2=13701&cg3=&cg4=&cg5= Ron Fitzpatrick Adelaide South Australia Ex Liverpool ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2006 6:38 AM Subject: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] genealogy software > > As i am new to family history could someone please advise me on the best > software to use to keep all my records on.it all looks like a bit of a > mine > field to me. > > Tom Harrison > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-MERSEYSIDE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Eunice Completely agree with what you say on FreeBMD. Worth bearing in mind though that ancestry also host the FreeBMD indexes and can be worth trying when the original is busy. Andrew Andrew Price www.pricetree.net -----Original Message----- From: eng-merseyside-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-merseyside-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Eunice Robinson Sent: 04 November 2006 16:07 To: eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] ENG-MERSEYSIDE Digest, Vol 1, Issue 32 A little late on the conversation re Ancestry, but thought I'd drop in with my bit. It is a great site, but if you are looking up civil registration in England, try freebmd. This site has volunteer transcribers who are transcribing the information from the big index volumes online. There is the ability to do fairly narrow or expanded searchers. If this is all old news, please ignore. If someone wants more, post to the list. Eunice -----Original Message----- From: eng-merseyside-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-merseyside-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of eng-merseyside-request@rootsweb.com Sent: November 4, 2006 12:10 AM To: eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com Subject: ENG-MERSEYSIDE Digest, Vol 1, Issue 32 To unsubscribe from ENG-MERSEYSIDE-D, send a message to ENG-MERSEYSIDE-D-request@rootsweb.com that contains in the body of the message the command unsubscribe and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. To contact the ENG-MERSEYSIDE-D list administrator, send mail to ENG-MERSEYSIDE-admin@rootsweb.com Today's Topics: 1. Re: Free (Christine Cunningham) 2. Re: Free (Janet) 3. Fw: [MaritimeQuestions] Merchantile Marine a good site (Ron Fitzpatrick) 4. genealogy software (tom harrison) 5. Re: genealogy software (Andrew Price) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 11:12:57 -0000 From: "Christine Cunningham" <chriscunningham@ntlworld.com> Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] Free To: <eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <043701c6ff39$062ed8b0$0202a8c0@mums> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Death details sent off list. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janet" <wightway@tiscali.co.uk> To: <eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 10:42 AM Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] Free > That's nice but its Ancestry.com which in the main has a lot of US records > and very little UK data for the names typed in. > Signing up for the free account does require a first name a last name and > an e-mail address which - forgive the cynicism - suggests they will pester > the life out of you to sign up. > > I just followed the instructions and, surprise, surprise, it remembered me > way back to a time when I signed up not realising that the majority of > records would be US based. They didnt recognise my password, and offered > me the option of changing my password which I did. They sent me an e-mail > and a link to click on to get back and search for free. What I see in > front of me now is a page of Account options, subscriptions, no free > access. > > Annual US Deluxe Membership, $155.40, > Annual World Deluxe Membership $347.40 > Annual Family Trees & Connections Membership $19.95 > Monthly World Deluxe Membership $39.95 > Monthly US Deluxe Membership $29.95 > > Free? Sorry, I am sceptical, because I found out the hard way a long time > ago. I am looking for a death in Herefordshire, England, April 1857 of > one Alexander Sherret aged 35 so if anyone has a free account I should be > eternally grateful if you might do me a look up > Janet > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <Annaj464@aol.com> > To: <eng-lan-lancaster@rootsweb.com>; <lancsgen@rootsweb.com>; > <YORKSGEN@rootsweb.com>; <ENG-LIVERPOOL@rootsweb.com>; > <eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com>; <CARMARTHENSHIRE-FHS@rootsweb.com>; > <GLAMORGAN@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 5:17 AM > Subject: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] Free > > >> >> Hi all - don't know if you know, but Ancestry.com is free from now till >> 3rd >> November. You don't have to give credit card details or anything like >> that. >> The link is below - Jackie >> >> _http://www.ancestry.com/gma/default.aspx?o_xid=27126&o_lid=27126&o_xt=27126 _ >> (http://www.ancestry.com/gma/default.aspx?o_xid=27126&o_lid=27126&o_xt=27126 ) >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-MERSEYSIDE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 17:52:17 -0000 From: "Janet" <wightway@tiscali.co.uk> Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] Free To: <eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <009201c6ff70$cd6f47c0$0200a8c0@dell8400> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I want to thank all those who responded to my post about Ancestry.com I really do think its worth sharing thought and though I didn't deliberately set out to get look ups, in so doing, that was the end result. I have ordered the death certificate though I know I wont find the parents' names upon it. I am holding out all hope in the identity of the Informant but when families pursue a naming pattern, that may not necessarily be so. Good luck to you all in your searches. Janet ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christine Cunningham" > Death details sent off list. ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2006 06:26:56 +1030 From: "Ron Fitzpatrick" <fitzp369@iinet.net.au> Subject: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] Fw: [MaritimeQuestions] Merchantile Marine a good site To: <ENG-MERSEYSIDE-L@rootsweb.com> Cc: eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <002b01c6ff82$37f96380$0100a8c0@rons> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2006 6:19 AM Subject: FW: [MaritimeQuestions] Merchantile Marine > > > -----Original Message----- > From: MaritimeQuestions@yahoogroups.com > [mailto:MaritimeQuestions@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of john williams > Sent: 03 November 2006 17:18 > To: MaritimeQuestions@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [MaritimeQuestions] Merchantile Marine > > Les > As you now know, Merchantile Marine Service Association was not a place > but an organisation created in 1857 to run training ships. The lady's > father, having been at Dr Barnado's, probably went to TS Indefatigable > anchored at that time in the Mersey along with TS Conway which trained > officers. (There had previously also been the reformatory ships Akbar & > Clarence but both had gone by WW1.) Given that Merseyside Museum hold > many records on both ships in their archives, she may well find her > father's therein. > > The Watts Naval Training School, to which she refers, was opened by Dr > Barnados in 1906 at Elham, Norfolk. > John Williams > WSS Merseyside > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MaritimeQuestions/ > > <*> Your email settings: > Individual Email | Traditional > > <*> To change settings online go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MaritimeQuestions/join > (Yahoo! ID required) > > <*> To change settings via email: > mailto:MaritimeQuestions-digest@yahoogroups.com > mailto:MaritimeQuestions-fullfeatured@yahoogroups.com > > <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > MaritimeQuestions-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2006 20:08:28 +0000 From: "tom harrison" <tomharrison71@hotmail.com> Subject: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] genealogy software To: eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <BAY128-F1161606994776F6FCA37E3ADFE0@phx.gbl> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed As i am new to family history could someone please advise me on the best software to use to keep all my records on.it all looks like a bit of a mine field to me. Tom Harrison ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 21:56:23 -0000 From: "Andrew Price" <mailgroups@price.ac> Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] genealogy software To: <eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <000001c6ff92$e7370a90$4101a8c0@PIGLET> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Tom You'll find that most people have gravitated to a product that suits them best & so most people are strong advocates for the one that they use themselves. Personally I've switched various times between different packages & currently use Legacy. I've used Family Tree Maker, Brothers Keeper and The Master Genealogist in the past. I've ended up with my current package largely due to strong source tracking. I'd advise trying a few of them. I know that legacy offer a free download with extra add-ons if you buy it (although frankly the free version is absolutely fine). I'm sure that many other packages will offer the same so I'd advise downloading a few and trying them out. So long as they offer to import and export files in Gedcom format (the universal file format for family tree info) then you'll be able to switch your data from one system to another without having to re-key. All the best Andrew Andrew Price www.pricetree.net -----Original Message----- From: eng-merseyside-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-merseyside-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of tom harrison Sent: 03 November 2006 20:08 To: eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com Subject: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] genealogy software As i am new to family history could someone please advise me on the best software to use to keep all my records on.it all looks like a bit of a mine field to me. 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A little late on the conversation re Ancestry, but thought I'd drop in with my bit. It is a great site, but if you are looking up civil registration in England, try freebmd. This site has volunteer transcribers who are transcribing the information from the big index volumes online. There is the ability to do fairly narrow or expanded searchers. If this is all old news, please ignore. If someone wants more, post to the list. Eunice -----Original Message----- From: eng-merseyside-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-merseyside-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of eng-merseyside-request@rootsweb.com Sent: November 4, 2006 12:10 AM To: eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com Subject: ENG-MERSEYSIDE Digest, Vol 1, Issue 32 To unsubscribe from ENG-MERSEYSIDE-D, send a message to ENG-MERSEYSIDE-D-request@rootsweb.com that contains in the body of the message the command unsubscribe and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. To contact the ENG-MERSEYSIDE-D list administrator, send mail to ENG-MERSEYSIDE-admin@rootsweb.com Today's Topics: 1. Re: Free (Christine Cunningham) 2. Re: Free (Janet) 3. Fw: [MaritimeQuestions] Merchantile Marine a good site (Ron Fitzpatrick) 4. genealogy software (tom harrison) 5. Re: genealogy software (Andrew Price) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 11:12:57 -0000 From: "Christine Cunningham" <chriscunningham@ntlworld.com> Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] Free To: <eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <043701c6ff39$062ed8b0$0202a8c0@mums> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Death details sent off list. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janet" <wightway@tiscali.co.uk> To: <eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 10:42 AM Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] Free > That's nice but its Ancestry.com which in the main has a lot of US records > and very little UK data for the names typed in. > Signing up for the free account does require a first name a last name and > an e-mail address which - forgive the cynicism - suggests they will pester > the life out of you to sign up. > > I just followed the instructions and, surprise, surprise, it remembered me > way back to a time when I signed up not realising that the majority of > records would be US based. They didnt recognise my password, and offered > me the option of changing my password which I did. They sent me an e-mail > and a link to click on to get back and search for free. What I see in > front of me now is a page of Account options, subscriptions, no free > access. > > Annual US Deluxe Membership, $155.40, > Annual World Deluxe Membership $347.40 > Annual Family Trees & Connections Membership $19.95 > Monthly World Deluxe Membership $39.95 > Monthly US Deluxe Membership $29.95 > > Free? Sorry, I am sceptical, because I found out the hard way a long time > ago. I am looking for a death in Herefordshire, England, April 1857 of > one Alexander Sherret aged 35 so if anyone has a free account I should be > eternally grateful if you might do me a look up > Janet > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <Annaj464@aol.com> > To: <eng-lan-lancaster@rootsweb.com>; <lancsgen@rootsweb.com>; > <YORKSGEN@rootsweb.com>; <ENG-LIVERPOOL@rootsweb.com>; > <eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com>; <CARMARTHENSHIRE-FHS@rootsweb.com>; > <GLAMORGAN@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 5:17 AM > Subject: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] Free > > >> >> Hi all - don't know if you know, but Ancestry.com is free from now till >> 3rd >> November. You don't have to give credit card details or anything like >> that. >> The link is below - Jackie >> >> _http://www.ancestry.com/gma/default.aspx?o_xid=27126&o_lid=27126&o_xt=27126 _ >> (http://www.ancestry.com/gma/default.aspx?o_xid=27126&o_lid=27126&o_xt=27126 ) >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-MERSEYSIDE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 17:52:17 -0000 From: "Janet" <wightway@tiscali.co.uk> Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] Free To: <eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <009201c6ff70$cd6f47c0$0200a8c0@dell8400> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I want to thank all those who responded to my post about Ancestry.com I really do think its worth sharing thought and though I didn't deliberately set out to get look ups, in so doing, that was the end result. I have ordered the death certificate though I know I wont find the parents' names upon it. I am holding out all hope in the identity of the Informant but when families pursue a naming pattern, that may not necessarily be so. Good luck to you all in your searches. Janet ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christine Cunningham" > Death details sent off list. ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2006 06:26:56 +1030 From: "Ron Fitzpatrick" <fitzp369@iinet.net.au> Subject: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] Fw: [MaritimeQuestions] Merchantile Marine a good site To: <ENG-MERSEYSIDE-L@rootsweb.com> Cc: eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <002b01c6ff82$37f96380$0100a8c0@rons> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2006 6:19 AM Subject: FW: [MaritimeQuestions] Merchantile Marine > > > -----Original Message----- > From: MaritimeQuestions@yahoogroups.com > [mailto:MaritimeQuestions@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of john williams > Sent: 03 November 2006 17:18 > To: MaritimeQuestions@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [MaritimeQuestions] Merchantile Marine > > Les > As you now know, Merchantile Marine Service Association was not a place > but an organisation created in 1857 to run training ships. The lady's > father, having been at Dr Barnado's, probably went to TS Indefatigable > anchored at that time in the Mersey along with TS Conway which trained > officers. (There had previously also been the reformatory ships Akbar & > Clarence but both had gone by WW1.) Given that Merseyside Museum hold > many records on both ships in their archives, she may well find her > father's therein. > > The Watts Naval Training School, to which she refers, was opened by Dr > Barnados in 1906 at Elham, Norfolk. > John Williams > WSS Merseyside > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MaritimeQuestions/ > > <*> Your email settings: > Individual Email | Traditional > > <*> To change settings online go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MaritimeQuestions/join > (Yahoo! ID required) > > <*> To change settings via email: > mailto:MaritimeQuestions-digest@yahoogroups.com > mailto:MaritimeQuestions-fullfeatured@yahoogroups.com > > <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > MaritimeQuestions-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2006 20:08:28 +0000 From: "tom harrison" <tomharrison71@hotmail.com> Subject: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] genealogy software To: eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <BAY128-F1161606994776F6FCA37E3ADFE0@phx.gbl> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed As i am new to family history could someone please advise me on the best software to use to keep all my records on.it all looks like a bit of a mine field to me. Tom Harrison ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 21:56:23 -0000 From: "Andrew Price" <mailgroups@price.ac> Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] genealogy software To: <eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <000001c6ff92$e7370a90$4101a8c0@PIGLET> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Tom You'll find that most people have gravitated to a product that suits them best & so most people are strong advocates for the one that they use themselves. Personally I've switched various times between different packages & currently use Legacy. I've used Family Tree Maker, Brothers Keeper and The Master Genealogist in the past. I've ended up with my current package largely due to strong source tracking. I'd advise trying a few of them. I know that legacy offer a free download with extra add-ons if you buy it (although frankly the free version is absolutely fine). I'm sure that many other packages will offer the same so I'd advise downloading a few and trying them out. So long as they offer to import and export files in Gedcom format (the universal file format for family tree info) then you'll be able to switch your data from one system to another without having to re-key. All the best Andrew Andrew Price www.pricetree.net -----Original Message----- From: eng-merseyside-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-merseyside-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of tom harrison Sent: 03 November 2006 20:08 To: eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com Subject: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] genealogy software As i am new to family history could someone please advise me on the best software to use to keep all my records on.it all looks like a bit of a mine field to me. 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----- Original Message ----- Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2006 6:19 AM Subject: FW: [MaritimeQuestions] Merchantile Marine > > > -----Original Message----- > From: MaritimeQuestions@yahoogroups.com > [mailto:MaritimeQuestions@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of john williams > Sent: 03 November 2006 17:18 > To: MaritimeQuestions@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [MaritimeQuestions] Merchantile Marine > > Les > As you now know, Merchantile Marine Service Association was not a place > but an organisation created in 1857 to run training ships. The lady's > father, having been at Dr Barnado's, probably went to TS Indefatigable > anchored at that time in the Mersey along with TS Conway which trained > officers. (There had previously also been the reformatory ships Akbar & > Clarence but both had gone by WW1.) Given that Merseyside Museum hold > many records on both ships in their archives, she may well find her > father's therein. > > The Watts Naval Training School, to which she refers, was opened by Dr > Barnados in 1906 at Elham, Norfolk. > John Williams > WSS Merseyside > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MaritimeQuestions/ > > <*> Your email settings: > Individual Email | Traditional > > <*> To change settings online go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MaritimeQuestions/join > (Yahoo! ID required) > > <*> To change settings via email: > mailto:MaritimeQuestions-digest@yahoogroups.com > mailto:MaritimeQuestions-fullfeatured@yahoogroups.com > > <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > MaritimeQuestions-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > >

Tom You'll find that most people have gravitated to a product that suits them best & so most people are strong advocates for the one that they use themselves. Personally I've switched various times between different packages & currently use Legacy. I've used Family Tree Maker, Brothers Keeper and The Master Genealogist in the past. I've ended up with my current package largely due to strong source tracking. I'd advise trying a few of them. I know that legacy offer a free download with extra add-ons if you buy it (although frankly the free version is absolutely fine). I'm sure that many other packages will offer the same so I'd advise downloading a few and trying them out. So long as they offer to import and export files in Gedcom format (the universal file format for family tree info) then you'll be able to switch your data from one system to another without having to re-key. All the best Andrew Andrew Price www.pricetree.net -----Original Message----- From: eng-merseyside-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-merseyside-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of tom harrison Sent: 03 November 2006 20:08 To: eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com Subject: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] genealogy software As i am new to family history could someone please advise me on the best software to use to keep all my records on.it all looks like a bit of a mine field to me. Tom Harrison ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-MERSEYSIDE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

As i am new to family history could someone please advise me on the best software to use to keep all my records on.it all looks like a bit of a mine field to me. Tom Harrison

I want to thank all those who responded to my post about Ancestry.com I really do think its worth sharing thought and though I didn't deliberately set out to get look ups, in so doing, that was the end result. I have ordered the death certificate though I know I wont find the parents' names upon it. I am holding out all hope in the identity of the Informant but when families pursue a naming pattern, that may not necessarily be so. Good luck to you all in your searches. Janet ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christine Cunningham" > Death details sent off list.

Death details sent off list. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janet" <wightway@tiscali.co.uk> To: <eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 10:42 AM Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] Free > That's nice but its Ancestry.com which in the main has a lot of US records > and very little UK data for the names typed in. > Signing up for the free account does require a first name a last name and > an e-mail address which - forgive the cynicism - suggests they will pester > the life out of you to sign up. > > I just followed the instructions and, surprise, surprise, it remembered me > way back to a time when I signed up not realising that the majority of > records would be US based. They didnt recognise my password, and offered > me the option of changing my password which I did. They sent me an e-mail > and a link to click on to get back and search for free. What I see in > front of me now is a page of Account options, subscriptions, no free > access. > > Annual US Deluxe Membership, $155.40, > Annual World Deluxe Membership $347.40 > Annual Family Trees & Connections Membership $19.95 > Monthly World Deluxe Membership $39.95 > Monthly US Deluxe Membership $29.95 > > Free? Sorry, I am sceptical, because I found out the hard way a long time > ago. I am looking for a death in Herefordshire, England, April 1857 of > one Alexander Sherret aged 35 so if anyone has a free account I should be > eternally grateful if you might do me a look up > Janet > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <Annaj464@aol.com> > To: <eng-lan-lancaster@rootsweb.com>; <lancsgen@rootsweb.com>; > <YORKSGEN@rootsweb.com>; <ENG-LIVERPOOL@rootsweb.com>; > <eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com>; <CARMARTHENSHIRE-FHS@rootsweb.com>; > <GLAMORGAN@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 5:17 AM > Subject: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] Free > > >> >> Hi all - don't know if you know, but Ancestry.com is free from now till >> 3rd >> November. You don't have to give credit card details or anything like >> that. >> The link is below - Jackie >> >> _http://www.ancestry.com/gma/default.aspx?o_xid=27126&o_lid=27126&o_xt=27126_ >> (http://www.ancestry.com/gma/default.aspx?o_xid=27126&o_lid=27126&o_xt=27126) >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-MERSEYSIDE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

There is certainly a database for the Sugar Workers http://home.clara.net/mawer/blog.html not sure if this is just for UK - I have put my German great-grandfather on it - John Henry Cors Marged I wonder if there is not someone who has created a website for trades and industries for the immigrants into US. Janet