Hello Elizabeth, I don't think they are part of my Grahams, at the moment anyway? Regards, Walter, Scotland. Elizabeth Dods <elizd77@rogers.com> wrote: GRAHAM - Anybody interested in this family? 1901 Census for Walton on the Hill, Holy Trinity, Liverpool, Anforld A.F.H. GRAHAM Head 50 Insurance Clerk born Yorks, Thorne D.F. GRAHAM Wife 48 born Lincoln, South Ferriby Jessie GRAHAM Daur 21 Harold T. GRAHAM Son 17 Commercial Clerk, Worker [this was on the railway] Wm C GRAHAM Son, 14 Harold T GRAHAM married Margaret WRIGHT in 1910. One son, Arthur born 1911. Elizabeth Dods elizd77@rogers.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-MERSEYSIDE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

MARSH--Culcheth-Lpool-West Derby-Newton le Willows. McCABE-Ireland-Toxteth Park. MORGAN-Ireland-West Derby. OWENS-Wales-West Derby-Everton. McCULLOCH-Yorkshire-[Scotland] ?-West Derby. Other names I am Interested in are, LAWSON--HOUGHTON-CROSBY-HUMPHREYS-KEATING. Elsie McLeod. Auck; NZ.

Walter wrote :- >Also I have connections to Alfred and John GRAHAM, who in 1901 I >believe >had a Greengrocers business in Liscard or thereabouts. >I look forward to any replies. >Walter Jones. According to the 1901 Census this Alfred was aged 23, so born c1876 in Liverpool. William wrote :- >Alfred is a descendant of JOHN GRAHAM 1876. Anyone can see that >the >inference is that 1876 is the start of the tree and that subsequent >families >lead down to Alfred. Am I the really the only one having difficulty following this? :-) Gordon From: "William" <wgra0331@bigpond.net.au> To: <eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 9:55 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] ALFRED GRAHAM >Hi Walter >If this has to be an 'open book' there is nothing wrong with my statement >that Alfred is a descendant of JOHN GRAHAM 1876. Anyone can see >that the >inference is that 1876 is the start of the tree and that subsequent >families >lead down to Alfred. >If Gordon had bothered to check with me first instead of airing his >misunderstanding of the situation on the list the matter would have been >made clear to him. >Regards,William

hi i have a george owens who married a lucy bogan in 1856 . they lived in everton. george was a bricklayer. any connection. ----- Original Message ----- From: "eLSIE" <R.A.Mcleod@xtra.co.nz> To: <eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 10:14 AM Subject: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] Names-MARSH-McCABE-MORGAN-OWENS-McCULLOCH > MARSH--Culcheth-Lpool-West Derby-Newton le Willows. > McCABE-Ireland-Toxteth Park. > MORGAN-Ireland-West Derby. > OWENS-Wales-West Derby-Everton. > McCULLOCH-Yorkshire-[Scotland] ?-West Derby. > Other names I am Interested in are, > LAWSON--HOUGHTON-CROSBY-HUMPHREYS-KEATING. > > Elsie McLeod. > Auck; NZ. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-MERSEYSIDE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.14.10/541 - Release Date: > 20/11/2006 > >

Hello Marge, QUINN family Nathaniel b.1809 Ireland md. Mary Duffey b. 1815 Ireland. children; all born liverpool. Catherine b. 1842 and married in 1861.in Burnley to Patrick Pagnano b. Ireland. John b.1846 Bridget b. 1850 William b. 1852 and married to Mary Riley b. 1857 Liverpool. Mary A. b. 1854 _______________ Wm. Quinn and Mary nee Riley are my grandparents, children as follows; Ellen b. 1876. Mary A b.1877 William b. 1880 John b. 1888. ________________ My Bell connection is only my aunt Ellen Graham b. 1882 who married first to John Thomas LANE 1898. then to Charles BELL in 1812 . but I dont have any matches to your Bells or Quinns . Regards Cathy.

Hi Walter The reason I thought I'd given you the wrong family was because of William in Adelaide's statement :- >I have the above ALFRED in my tree descended from JOHN GRAHAM >1876 >Ireland. >Relevant tree has been sent offlist for you information whereas the Liscard greengrocer from the 1901 Census I suggested to you was the son of Albert GRAHAM b1852 Liverpool? Regards Gordon From: "WALTER JONES" <alsrecs@btopenworld.com> To: <eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 7:07 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] ALFRED GRAHAM >Hello Gordon, Cousin. >The reason for not saying anything about the "Wrong >Family" was, it wasn't, that is the family I have, and to be honest, I >don't know how all this started? I think I must have missed something, but >it is a problem I've found with Emails, as it is so easy to pick things up >wrongly. >Anyway enough of that, the info:- you sent was well >received, and the only problem I can see up to now with Williams, is it >seems as though one of us, probably me, seems to have taken a wrong fork >somewhere, but it'll get sorted, I hope. >Take Care. >Walter, Scotland. > >Gordon Evans <gordon.w.evans@btinternet.com> wrote: >Hello Walter >Would be interested to know whether I had in fact given you the wrong >GRAHAM >family in my earlier posting, as intimated by William in Adelaide. >If so, I'm rather surprised you didn't mention this in your reply thanking >me for the information? >I'm quite thick-skinned, so can take a "knock". :-) >Regards >Gordon

Sorry about this,but seem to be having problems with this list. Elsie Mcleod. Auck; NZ

Glad you are sorted and back with us, Elsie Marged First of all,welcome as our new leader we couldnt have a nicer person in charge. Yes I am using my old server again but keeping the new one on hand as xtra has the habbit of thinking ''Rootsweb mail is SPAM at times.

Thanks Lainee - I know I can ask you, and will if anything phases me (or is it "fazes me"?) Marged Marged...if you ever need anything, have questions whatever, just ask! :) At 06:49 AM 11/20/2006, you wrote: >Thanks Lainee - list, Lainee and I have met, in Southport, when she >was over from the USA for a visit. > >

Hello Gordon, Cousin. The reason for not saying anything about the "Wrong Family" was, it wasn't, that is the family I have, and to be honest, I don't know how all this started? I think I must have missed something, but it is a problem I've found with Emails, as it is so easy to pick things up wrongly. Anyway enough of that, the info:- you sent was well received, and the only problem I can see up to now with Williams, is it seems as though one of us, probably me, seems to have taken a wrong fork somewhere, but it'll get sorted, I hope. Ha! Ha! Ha! I hope this calms your fears? If there is ever anything wrong with your Info:- I'm quite sure I'll find a way to let you know, you have been warned!! Ha! Ha! Ha! I'd better get this away to you, so for now I'll just say speak again soon? Take Care. Walter, Scotland. Gordon Evans <gordon.w.evans@btinternet.com> wrote: Hello Walter Would be interested to know whether I had in fact given you the wrong GRAHAM family in my earlier posting, as intimated by William in Adelaide. If so, I'm rather surprised you didn't mention this in your reply thanking me for the information? I'm quite thick-skinned, so can take a "knock". :-) Regards Gordon From: "WALTER JONES" To: Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2006 7:31 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] New Subscriber >Hello Gordon, Cousin. >Sorry, I meant to remove the GRAHAM part before sending, but forgot, >and >obviously you've been left to some extra work, for which I must say Thank >you, as I had quite a bit of it, but not all, so all your work was not in >vain. >Regards, >Walter, Scotland. From: "WALTER JONES" To: Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 12:29 AM Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] ALFRED GRAHAM >Hello William, >I've got your "Tree" thanks, my Graham tree is not as >complete as yours as yet, so there are names in yours I don't recognise, >but I've not been able to take it all in as yet, (I'm needing my bed, time >here now, is 0019am). >Your starter in Ireland, is different to mine, I have a >Thomas B1790, in Scotland, but, that may not be 100 percent accurate, I'll >to try getting what I have to you, then we can compare notes? but it looks >as though we are more or less on the same track. >Thanks for making contact, I hope we can get it all >connected. >Regards, >Walter, Scotland. > >William wrote: >Hi Walter >Re the correspondence between yourself and Gordon Evans. >I have the above ALFRED in my tree descended from JOHN GRAHAM >1876 >(Ireland) >Relevant tree has been sent offlist for you information >Regards,William in Adelaide South Australia ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-MERSEYSIDE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

GRAHAM - Anybody interested in this family? 1901 Census for Walton on the Hill, Holy Trinity, Liverpool, Anforld A.F.H. GRAHAM Head 50 Insurance Clerk born Yorks, Thorne D.F. GRAHAM Wife 48 born Lincoln, South Ferriby Jessie GRAHAM Daur 21 Harold T. GRAHAM Son 17 Commercial Clerk, Worker [this was on the railway] Wm C GRAHAM Son, 14 Harold T GRAHAM married Margaret WRIGHT in 1910. One son, Arthur born 1911. Elizabeth Dods elizd77@rogers.com

Hi, me again I gave a list of the names in which I'm interested during the Roll Call a few days ago, but would now like to post my main line in more detail :- John MARTINDALE married Jane COWL/COWELL 10 Feb 1787 Liverpool St George. Children, all born in Liverpool :- 1788 Henry (m Elizabeth) 1790 Ann 1792 Martha 1797 John (m Elizabeth USHER 22 March 1821 Liverpool St Peter) Children of John & Elizabeth (Usher) MARTINDALE, all born Liverpool :- 1823 Matthias (m Ann LEIGH 21 Aug 1846 Liverpool St Peter) 1827 Ellen 1830 Elizabeth (m Henry AIRD/HERD/HURD 1851 Liverpool) 1830 William (m Sarah Ann FEARN 23 April 1850 Liverpool St Peter) 1833 John 1834 Ann Roberts 1836 Mary Jane 1839 Emma 1840 Peter (m Sarah LUCAS 30 April 1861 Liverpool St Peter) Children of William & Sarah (Fearn) MARTINDALE, all born Liverpool :- 1851 Elizabeth 1853 John 1856 Sarah Ann 1858 William (m Theresa COADY 6 April 1879 Liverpool St Peter) 1861 Elizabeth Ann 1863 Ann Maria Children of William & Theresa (Coady) MARTINDALE, all born Liverpool :- 1881 William (m Mary McDONOUGH 1900 Everton St Polycarp) 1888 John James (m Bridget CORRIGAN 23 July 1911 St Sylvesters RC) 1891 Sarah Ann (m George DIABLE 15 Sept 1910 St Sylvesters RC) 1894 Theresa (m Matthew Murphy) 1897 Mary Children of John James & Bridget (Corrigan) MARTINDALE, all born Liverpool:- 1914 William (d 1918 aged 4) 1916 John James (m Lillian SMYTH) (my parents) 1925 Catherine (living) 1929 Thomas (living) The early MARTINDALES were all boatmen, mariners or fishermen, many of them also crewing the Liverpool Lifeboats. The above Peter MARTINDALE (b1840) + his uncle James MARTINDALE (b1819) were amongst seven men lost when the Liverpool lifeboat was upset whilst attempting to rescue the passengers and crew of the vessel LEILA on 15 January 1865. Peter's widow Sarah nee LUCAS remarried (in 1872) Charles WARD, who I believe someone else on this list has in their family tree. Would be delighted if anyone out there can identify a connection. Regards Dorothy

I have been stuck on the maiden name of Mary who married Robert Harrison for a long time. What I have on the couple follows. I also have census records and births for the children. I am just needing to find the maiden name for Mary. Thanks in advance, Lainee Modified Register for Robert HARRISON First Generation 1. Robert HARRISON was born on 18 Mar 1799 in Lancashire, England, United Kingdom. He was christened on 12 May 1799 in St. Peter's, Liverpool, Lancashire, England, United Kingdom. He died after 1871 in Liverpool, Lancashire, England, United Kingdom. Robert married Mary . Mary was born about 1806 in Liverpool, Lancashire, England, United Kingdom. They had the following children: 2 F i. Margaret HARRISON was born about 1821 in Liverpool, Lancashire, England, United Kingdom. She was christened on 1 Apr 1821 in Saint Peter, Liverpool, Lancashire, England, United Kingdom. 3 M ii. William HARRISON was born about 1823 in Liverpool, Lancashire, England, United Kingdom. He was christened on 30 Mar 1823 in Saint Peter, Liverpool, Lancashire, England, United Kingdom. 4 F iii. Mary HARRISON was born about 1824 in Liverpool, Lancashire, England, United Kingdom. She was christened on 8 Nov 1824 in Saint Peter, Liverpool, Lancashire, England, United Kingdom. 5 M iv. Edward HARRISON was born about 1827 in Liverpool, Lancashire, England, United Kingdom. He was christened on 23 Apr 1827 in St. Peter's, Liverpool, Lancashire, England, United Kingdom. son of Robert and Mary Harrison of Midghall St. Slater and plasterer 6 M v. Robert HARRISON was born about 1830 in Liverpool, Lancashire, England, United Kingdom. He was christened on 29 Apr 1830 in St. Peter's, Liverpool, Lancashire, England, United Kingdom. He died before 1881. son of Robert & Mary of Cherry Lane, plasterer Robert married Elizabeth KEGG daughter of William KEGG and Mary KELLY on 7 Jul 1851 in St. Simon's, Liverpool, Lancashire, England, United Kingdom. Elizabeth was born about 1827 in Castleton, Isle of Man, British Isles, United Kingdom. She was christened on 30 May 1827 in Malew, Isle of Man, British Isles, United Kingdom. She died after 1901 in Liverpool, Lancashire, England, United Kingdom. Marriage info on daughter Eliza (not in 1881 census with family) gives 12 Venus St. as home address 7 M vi. Henry HARRISON was born about 1832 in Liverpool, Lancashire, England, United Kingdom. He was christened on 7 May 1832 in Saint Peter, Liverpool, Lancashire, England, United Kingdom.

Maureen in Queensland wrote :- >I have a Grandmother Anne EVANS married in Onibury Salop 1815 to >Thomas >WEBSTER - could she be one of your Evans line. I very much doubt this, Maureen - my EVANS's were for the most part a pretty unadventurous lot. Being in Puddington (bottom left corner of Wirral) in 1695 the furthest they'd strayed by the 1900's was New Brighton, some 12 miles to the north-east. My great grandad William EVANS did sail the world as a deep-sea mariner for the best part of 60 years (much of it as master) but when he finally got to hang up his sea-boots it was in Walton-on-the-Hill, no more than 5 miles across the River Mersey as the crow flies from his birthplace! Regards Gordon From: "Maureen" <moreid2003@yahoo.com> To: <eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2006 8:14 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] Merseyside Publicans. >Thank you Gordon - will look around locally or try Ebay. I am in > >Queensland Australia,Wx Wirralian,also have a Grandmother Anne >EVANS >morried in Onibury Salop 1815 to Thomas WEBSTER - could >she be one of your >Evans line. Regards Maureen

Marged...if you ever need anything, have questions whatever, just ask! :) At 06:49 AM 11/20/2006, you wrote: >Thanks Lainee - list, Lainee and I have met, in Southport, when she >was over from the USA for a visit. > >Marged > > > Caryl, sorry to hear you haven't been well and I hope that you get to > feeling better soon! :) > > Congrats, Marged! I know Marged also and she is a wonderful choice! :) > > Lainee

Thanks Lainee - list, Lainee and I have met, in Southport, when she was over from the USA for a visit. Marged Caryl, sorry to hear you haven't been well and I hope that you get to feeling better soon! :) Congrats, Marged! I know Marged also and she is a wonderful choice! :) Lainee

Thank you for your kind words, Caryl. I hope I can attend to the admin requirements of the list in as efficient a way as you have always done, and you know that you will always be welcome to come back and take the reins again whenever you feel well enough! Marged I've been a bit remiss in not sending this mail to the list before. Apologies Due to ill health and other factors I've decided to give up my Rootsweb lists I wanted to hand them over to someone who would look after them I can't think of anyone better than Marged to take over this list, she is already building it up into something good I've known Marged for a number of years and I know that she is a very fair, friendly and knowedgable person. Many of you know her from other lists and communities and are already aware of these qualities of course :-) So a big thank you to Marged for taking over the reins and to all the listers old and new who have contributed and helped out on this list over the years I'll still pop in now and then when I'm back in the swing of things Tar ra for now Caryl Williams

Hello Walter Would be interested to know whether I had in fact given you the wrong GRAHAM family in my earlier posting, as intimated by William in Adelaide. If so, I'm rather surprised you didn't mention this in your reply thanking me for the information? I'm quite thick-skinned, so can take a "knock". :-) Regards Gordon From: "WALTER JONES" <alsrecs@btopenworld.com> To: <eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2006 7:31 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] New Subscriber >Hello Gordon, Cousin. >Sorry, I meant to remove the GRAHAM part before sending, but forgot, >and >obviously you've been left to some extra work, for which I must say Thank >you, as I had quite a bit of it, but not all, so all your work was not in >vain. >Regards, >Walter, Scotland. From: "WALTER JONES" <alsrecs@btopenworld.com> To: <eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 12:29 AM Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] ALFRED GRAHAM >Hello William, >I've got your "Tree" thanks, my Graham tree is not as >complete as yours as yet, so there are names in yours I don't recognise, >but I've not been able to take it all in as yet, (I'm needing my bed, time >here now, is 0019am). >Your starter in Ireland, is different to mine, I have a >Thomas B1790, in Scotland, but, that may not be 100 percent accurate, I'll >to try getting what I have to you, then we can compare notes? but it looks >as though we are more or less on the same track. >Thanks for making contact, I hope we can get it all >connected. >Regards, >Walter, Scotland. > >William <wgra0331@bigpond.net.au> wrote: >Hi Walter >Re the correspondence between yourself and Gordon Evans. >I have the above ALFRED in my tree descended from JOHN GRAHAM >1876 >(Ireland) >Relevant tree has been sent offlist for you information >Regards,William in Adelaide South Australia

Hi Gordon Game set and match !! New game ?? Regards,William ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gordon Evans" <gordon.w.evans@btinternet.com> To: <eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 10:14 AM Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] ALFRED GRAHAM > Hi William > > Goes to show the value of posting full census information when you're > trying > to "help" someone? > Had I simply said "image sent off-list" no-one would have been any the > wiser > that I might have got the wrong family. :-) > > Regards > Gordon > > From: "William" <wgra0331@bigpond.net.au> > To: <eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2006 11:25 PM > Subject: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] ALFRED GRAHAM > > >>Hi Walter >>Re the correspondence between yourself and Gordon Evans. >>I have the above ALFRED in my tree descended from JOHN GRAHAM >1876 >>(Ireland) >>Relevant tree has been sent offlist for you information >>Regards,William in Adelaide South Australia > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-MERSEYSIDE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Walter Re the correspondence between yourself and Gordon Evans. I have the above ALFRED in my tree descended from JOHN GRAHAM 1876 (Ireland) Relevant tree has been sent offlist for you information Regards,William in Adelaide South Australia Some of my names :- Curry (and Variants) Liverpool,Walton on the Hill,Fazackerly Ashcroft - Bickerstaffe Graham - Everton Standish - Liverpool Redrup - from 1857 (Bunbury Cheshire to Buckinghamshire)