Dear Gordon, Thank you so very much for all the wonderful details you've sent, but oo-er! I'm beginning to think my family found it obligatory to only marry cousins, and then their offspring married their cousins! Off to try and input all this great information into FTM, it's like linking circles together! Fascinating info., many thanks again. Best regards, Yvonne >> Hi Yvonne >Can you please help out with any family details for Maggie Hughes. Harold Walter DODD's bride Margaret HUGHES (b1871 Hoose) was the youngest daughter of Thomas HUGHES (b1831 Hoose) and Ann HARDING who were married 19th May 1857 in Wrexham, Denbighshire. Children of Thomas & Ann (Harding) HUGHES, all born in Hoose :- 1858 William Croxton (m Mary HICKEY) 1859 Mary Lizzie (m Walter Charles HEAVYSEGE 1890 Hoylake) 1862 Emily (m George Percival MOSS 1889 West Kirby) 1863 Sarah Anne (m (i) William SWIFT (ii) Joseph Powell BIRD) 1864 Fanny (m Robert Roberts ECCLES 1884 B'head Holy Trinity) 1866 Thomas 1867 John 1868 Archibald 1870 Moses 1871 Margaret (m Robert RAINFORD 1890 Hoylake) Thomas HUGHES (b1831 Hoose) was a son of Thomas HUGHES (b1804 Hoose) and Mary JONES (b1803 Great Meols) who married 27 Feb 1828 in West Kirby St Bridget.. Thomas & Mary (Jones) HUGHES had only one other child viz John (b1828 Hoose) who married Ann STEENS (b1825 Heswall) c1850. Thomas HUGHES (b1804) was a son of Joseph HUGHES (b1782 Great Meols) and Mary BARLOW (b1780 Hoose) who married 3 Aug 1802 in West Kirby St Bridget. Children of Joseph and Margaret (Barlow) HUGHES, all born in Hoose :- 1804 Thomas (m Mary JONES 1828 as above) 1806 Jane (m Thomas DUNCAN 1827 West Kirby St Bridget) 1809 Joseph (m Mary OWENS 1830 Liverpool St Peter) Both Thomas and Joseph HUGHES were "found drowned" in November 1830, assumed the consequence of a fishing accident. Joseph HUGHES (b1782) was a son of Thomas HUGHES and Jane WRIGHT who were married 14 October 1771 in Liverpool St Peter. Children of Thomas and Jane (Wright) HUGHES, all born in Great Meols :- 1772 William 1774 Richard (m Alice ECCLES 1794 Formby Chapel) 1777 Catherine 1779 Nelly 1782 Joseph (m Margaret BARLOW 1802 as above) Thomas Hughes' bride from the 1828 marriage viz Mary JONES (b1803) was a daughter of Thomas JONES (b1779 Great Meols) and Nancy BECK (b1781 Kendal, Westmorland) who were married 9 November 1801 in Liverpool St Nicholas. Children of Thomas and Nancy (Beck) JONES, all born in Great Meols :- 1802 Kitty (m Joseph BIRD 1 July 1823 Liverpoool St Peter) 1803 Mary (m (i) Thomas HUGHES (ii) William CROXTON) 1805 Betty (m Joseph ARMITAGE 1823 Liverpool St Mark) 1807 Peter (m Mary ROBERTS 1829 Liverpool St Nicholas) 1809 William (m (i) Catherine ANDERTON (ii) Mary Harding) 1811 Thomas (d 1813) 1814 Thomas (m Elizabeth JONES 27 Jan 1840 Liverpool St Nicholas) 1816 Sarah 1819 Samuel (m Elizabeth STEENS 1840 Liverpool St Phillip) 1821 Agnes (d 1821) 1825 Susannah (m (i) Thomas JACKSON (ii) John WILSON) Thomas JONES (b1779) was a son of Peter JONES (born c1743) and Elizabeth HUGHES (born c1742) who were married 21 February 1774 in West Kirby St Bridget. Children of Peter and Elizabeth (Hughes) JONES, all born in Great Meols :- 1776 Thomas (d 1776) 1777 William (m (i) Sarah MIDDLETON (ii) Mary from Amlwch, Anglesey) 1779 Thomas (m Nancy BECK 1801 as above) 1780 Nancy (m William EVANS 8 Jan 1779 Liverpool St Nicholas) 1781 Elizabeth (m John ECCLES 15 March 1801 West Kirby St Bridget) 1784 Peggy (m Joseph SHERLOCK 12 Aug 1800 Liverpool St Peter) 1785 Molly (d 1785) 1787 Molly (d 1803) 1789 Peter (d 1805) Incidentally, a great-great-grandson of humble Hoylake fisherman Peter JONES (b1743) via his grandaughter Mary JONES' second marriage to William CROXTON was Sir Archibald Tutton James SALVIDGE (b1863 Birkenhead) who was made Privy Counsellor in 1922. He was instrumental in approving the plans for the first Mersey Tunnel, opened in 1934 (6 years after his death), being referred to thus by local historians (from the MTUA web-site) :- "In 1922 a committee was set up between Liverpool, Birkenhead, Bootle and Wallasey to draw up plans for a crossing. The committee was chaired by Sir Archibald Salvidge from Liverpool. He was the main driving force in getting the crossing". No doubt Peter was shouting from his grave "That's my boy!" :-) Regards Gordon <<

ministry of foods Maureen From: "Ailsa Barnes" <ailsa@barnes.net> To: "MERSEYSIDE" <ENG-MERSEYSIDE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 8:25 PM Subject: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] WW2 National Registration Identity Cards > Hi all, > > Please can anyone give me any information about National Identity cards > issued during WW2? I have the cards for both of my paternal grandparents > and > the information on them has left me with more questions than answers! > > Did all address changes have to be recorded on the cards? Do the date > stamps > refer to the date that the National Registration Office was actually > informed of the change of address or was it when the move took place - or > was that always done on the same day? Also is there any relevance to the > number issued - I am referring to the number written on the inside of the > card next to the name, not the printed number on the back. (I have NIRC > 945 > & NHA 4108012) and the class code? (Both Class A). Also, under what > circumstances would the cards be stamped on the back - It is an octagonal > shape stamp with a crown in the centre and the letter N on the left side, > R > on the right, and MF underneath. I'm guessing the N and R are for National > Registration? > > Thanks in advance, > > Ailsa > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-MERSEYSIDE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.14.11/542 - Release Date: > 20/11/2006 > >

Hello Gordon, How are you? thanks very much for that Info:- I must admit I did not know all you've told me, and I'm quite chuffed, Imagine having a "Sir" in the Family, things are looking up eh!? I seem to remember reading a bit about the Tunnel, and I recognised the name but didn't know he was ours, so to speak, where does he actually fit in? How about you?, are you due a Gong or Knighthood yet? I'm not, as far as I know. Anyway I'll now have to get this latest Info:- into my Tree, and I'd be very happy to receive any more you're willing to pass on. I wrote to Shirley(Williams Contact?) last night but not heard back just yet, I don't know how she fits in yet, but it will be on the GRAHAM side I reckon. I'll leave it there for now, speak again soon? Regards to you and yours. Walter. Gordon Evans <gordon.w.evans@btinternet.com> wrote: Hi Walter The post I made earlier this evening, subject Robert RAINFORD/Maggie HUGHES, makes mention of a Nancy JONES (b1780 Great Meols) marrying a William EVANS on 8 January 1799 in Liverpool St Nicholas. In case you weren't already aware of it can I tell you that these people are in fact your great-great-great-grandparents, Nancy's parents Peter & Elizabeth JONES being plus another "great"? Which means that you are also related to the extravagantly-named Sir Archibald Tutton James SALVIDGE, MP, JP, Privy Councillor, reputed to be the driving force behind the construction of the first Mersey Tunnel. I calculate his relationship to you and I to be 3rd cousin twice removed. (I have a photograph of him somewhere boring through the last section of the tunnel, which I'll try to dig out and send as an e-mail attachment). Regards Gordon From: "WALTER JONES" To: Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 9:59 PM Subject: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] Grahams >Hello Rory, >Sorry I'm a bit late, but my GRAHAMS came from Scotland, but Williams >are >from Ireland, but Thanks for the Info:- anyway. >Regards, >Walter, Scotland. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-MERSEYSIDE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Walter The post I made earlier this evening, subject Robert RAINFORD/Maggie HUGHES, makes mention of a Nancy JONES (b1780 Great Meols) marrying a William EVANS on 8 January 1799 in Liverpool St Nicholas. In case you weren't already aware of it can I tell you that these people are in fact your great-great-great-grandparents, Nancy's parents Peter & Elizabeth JONES being plus another "great"? Which means that you are also related to the extravagantly-named Sir Archibald Tutton James SALVIDGE, MP, JP, Privy Councillor, reputed to be the driving force behind the construction of the first Mersey Tunnel. I calculate his relationship to you and I to be 3rd cousin twice removed. (I have a photograph of him somewhere boring through the last section of the tunnel, which I'll try to dig out and send as an e-mail attachment). Regards Gordon From: "WALTER JONES" <alsrecs@btopenworld.com> To: <ENG-MERSEYSIDE@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 9:59 PM Subject: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] Grahams >Hello Rory, >Sorry I'm a bit late, but my GRAHAMS came from Scotland, but Williams >are >from Ireland, but Thanks for the Info:- anyway. >Regards, >Walter, Scotland.

Hello Rory, Sorry I'm a bit late, but my GRAHAMS came from Scotland, but Williams are from Ireland, but Thanks for the Info:- anyway. Ooops, got my Addy's. mixed up. Regards, Walter, Scotland.

Ooops! >Harold Walter DODD's bride Margaret HUGHES (b1871 Hoose) was the >youngest >daughter of Thomas HUGHES (b1831 Hoose) and Ann HARDING who >were married >9th May 1857 in Wrexham, Denbighshire. Harold Walter's bride was of course Margery RAINFORD (b1896 Hoylake), daughter of Robert RAINFORD (b1869 West Kirby) and Margaret HUGHES (b1871 Hoose). Should be ok from thereon in. Gordon

Hi Yvonne >Can you please help out with any family details for Maggie Hughes. Harold Walter DODD's bride Margaret HUGHES (b1871 Hoose) was the youngest daughter of Thomas HUGHES (b1831 Hoose) and Ann HARDING who were married 19th May 1857 in Wrexham, Denbighshire. Children of Thomas & Ann (Harding) HUGHES, all born in Hoose :- 1858 William Croxton (m Mary HICKEY) 1859 Mary Lizzie (m Walter Charles HEAVYSEGE 1890 Hoylake) 1862 Emily (m George Percival MOSS 1889 West Kirby) 1863 Sarah Anne (m (i) William SWIFT (ii) Joseph Powell BIRD) 1864 Fanny (m Robert Roberts ECCLES 1884 B'head Holy Trinity) 1866 Thomas 1867 John 1868 Archibald 1870 Moses 1871 Margaret (m Robert RAINFORD 1890 Hoylake) Thomas HUGHES (b1831 Hoose) was a son of Thomas HUGHES (b1804 Hoose) and Mary JONES (b1803 Great Meols) who married 27 Feb 1828 in West Kirby St Bridget.. Thomas & Mary (Jones) HUGHES had only one other child viz John (b1828 Hoose) who married Ann STEENS (b1825 Heswall) c1850. Thomas HUGHES (b1804) was a son of Joseph HUGHES (b1782 Great Meols) and Mary BARLOW (b1780 Hoose) who married 3 Aug 1802 in West Kirby St Bridget. Children of Joseph and Margaret (Barlow) HUGHES, all born in Hoose :- 1804 Thomas (m Mary JONES 1828 as above) 1806 Jane (m Thomas DUNCAN 1827 West Kirby St Bridget) 1809 Joseph (m Mary OWENS 1830 Liverpool St Peter) Both Thomas and Joseph HUGHES were "found drowned" in November 1830, assumed the consequence of a fishing accident. Joseph HUGHES (b1782) was a son of Thomas HUGHES and Jane WRIGHT who were married 14 October 1771 in Liverpool St Peter. Children of Thomas and Jane (Wright) HUGHES, all born in Great Meols :- 1772 William 1774 Richard (m Alice ECCLES 1794 Formby Chapel) 1777 Catherine 1779 Nelly 1782 Joseph (m Margaret BARLOW 1802 as above) Thomas Hughes' bride from the 1828 marriage viz Mary JONES (b1803) was a daughter of Thomas JONES (b1779 Great Meols) and Nancy BECK (b1781 Kendal, Westmorland) who were married 9 November 1801 in Liverpool St Nicholas. Children of Thomas and Nancy (Beck) JONES, all born in Great Meols :- 1802 Kitty (m Joseph BIRD 1 July 1823 Liverpoool St Peter) 1803 Mary (m (i) Thomas HUGHES (ii) William CROXTON) 1805 Betty (m Joseph ARMITAGE 1823 Liverpool St Mark) 1807 Peter (m Mary ROBERTS 1829 Liverpool St Nicholas) 1809 William (m (i) Catherine ANDERTON (ii) Mary Harding) 1811 Thomas (d 1813) 1814 Thomas (m Elizabeth JONES 27 Jan 1840 Liverpool St Nicholas) 1816 Sarah 1819 Samuel (m Elizabeth STEENS 1840 Liverpool St Phillip) 1821 Agnes (d 1821) 1825 Susannah (m (i) Thomas JACKSON (ii) John WILSON) Thomas JONES (b1779) was a son of Peter JONES (born c1743) and Elizabeth HUGHES (born c1742) who were married 21 February 1774 in West Kirby St Bridget. Children of Peter and Elizabeth (Hughes) JONES, all born in Great Meols :- 1776 Thomas (d 1776) 1777 William (m (i) Sarah MIDDLETON (ii) Mary from Amlwch, Anglesey) 1779 Thomas (m Nancy BECK 1801 as above) 1780 Nancy (m William EVANS 8 Jan 1779 Liverpool St Nicholas) 1781 Elizabeth (m John ECCLES 15 March 1801 West Kirby St Bridget) 1784 Peggy (m Joseph SHERLOCK 12 Aug 1800 Liverpool St Peter) 1785 Molly (d 1785) 1787 Molly (d 1803) 1789 Peter (d 1805) Incidentally, a great-great-grandson of humble Hoylake fisherman Peter JONES (b1743) via his grandaughter Mary JONES' second marriage to William CROXTON was Sir Archibald Tutton James SALVIDGE (b1863 Birkenhead) who was made Privy Counsellor in 1922. He was instrumental in approving the plans for the first Mersey Tunnel, opened in 1934 (6 years after his death), being referred to thus by local historians (from the MTUA web-site) :- "In 1922 a committee was set up between Liverpool, Birkenhead, Bootle and Wallasey to draw up plans for a crossing. The committee was chaired by Sir Archibald Salvidge from Liverpool. He was the main driving force in getting the crossing". No doubt Peter was shouting from his grave "That's my boy!" :-) Regards Gordon From: "Yvonne Purdy" <von@yvonnepurdy.free-online.co.uk> To: <eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 11:43 AM Subject: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] Robert RAINFORD/Maggie Hughes >Hi Gordon, >You wrote: >Did you know, by the way, that Harold Walter DODD (b1900) married Margery >RAINFORD (b1896) in 1926 at Hoylake? >In my tree both are grandchildren of Alice HUGHES (b1834 Hoose) - so yet >another first-cousin marriage in your family! >I have the parents of Margery Rainford as Robert Rainford and Maggie >Hughes, >married 1890 in Holy Trinity, Hoylake. >I have Robert Rainford as the son of William Rainford and Alice (Dodd) >Hughes, she being grandmother to both Margery Rainford and Harold Walter >Dodd. >Can you please help out with any family details for Maggie Hughes. Is she >yet another of the same Hughes line? >Thank you for any details you can give. >Best regards, >Yvonne

Hi Pat and Bill Thank you for taking the time to respond. It was worth a try anyway. Regards Errol > Hello Errol, > I'm sorry but this is a new search for me. All I have right now are the > certificates. I know nothing of the HINDLEY family other then the > certificate telling me Helen has joined the FULTON family. > Cheers for now, > Pat and Bill > mayo-gal@telus.net >> >> I went to Hoylake Parade school and one of my classmates was JEAN HINDLEY >> who had beautiful red hair. Would love to know what became of her. Is >> she >> on your tree? >> >> Errol (nee Crockford), Marysville, Victoria, Australia

Hi Gordon, You wrote: >>Did you know, by the way, that Harold Walter DODD (b1900) married Margery RAINFORD (b1896) in 1926 at Hoylake? In my tree both are grandchildren of Alice HUGHES (b1834 Hoose) - so yet another first-cousin marriage in your family! << I have the parents of Margery Rainford as Robert Rainford and Maggie Hughes, married 1890 in Holy Trinity, Hoylake. I have Robert Rainford as the son of William Rainford and Alice (Dodd) Hughes, she being grandmother to both Margery Rainford and Harold Walter Dodd. Can you please help out with any family details for Maggie Hughes. Is she yet another of the same Hughes line? Thank you for any details you can give. Best regards, Yvonne

Hi All, Hoping someone can help me with some information on Electoral Registers. I am trying to find out who was living at an address in Warrington (not exactly Liverpool, I know) in 1944. I know that there wasn't a census taken during the war, but were electoral registers taken for that year and if so, any ideas were I might be able to track it down. Thanks in advance, Ailsa

Hi all, Please can anyone give me any information about National Identity cards issued during WW2? I have the cards for both of my paternal grandparents and the information on them has left me with more questions than answers! Did all address changes have to be recorded on the cards? Do the date stamps refer to the date that the National Registration Office was actually informed of the change of address or was it when the move took place - or was that always done on the same day? Also is there any relevance to the number issued - I am referring to the number written on the inside of the card next to the name, not the printed number on the back. (I have NIRC 945 & NHA 4108012) and the class code? (Both Class A). Also, under what circumstances would the cards be stamped on the back - It is an octagonal shape stamp with a crown in the centre and the letter N on the left side, R on the right, and MF underneath. I'm guessing the N and R are for National Registration? Thanks in advance, Ailsa

Hi Christine - thank you - I actually feel several books coming on! If I ever get the time! Jackie

Pat I believe Cheetham to be a district of Manchester,lancs. Rory --- Pajonwalker <Pajonwalker@btinternet.com> wrote: > Hello all, has anyone heard of this place and can > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to ENG-MERSEYSIDE-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message > >

Hi Pat and Bill wrote - > > Also Helen HINDLEY age 22, her father being Harry HINDLEY ( deceased ) in > 1928. the address given is 12 Sea View Hoylake. I went to Hoylake Parade school and one of my classmates was JEAN HINDLEY who had beautiful red hair. Would love to know what became of her. Is she on your tree? Errol (nee Crockford), Marysville, Victoria, Australia

Hi Yvonne I'm sure you'll be right about the Daisy DODD (22) in the 1901 census - more likely to be Alice Margaret (b1880) than an earlier child we didn't know about. I wasn't aware that Daisy was a pet name for Margaret, having only ever encountered Meg or Peggy myself until now. Did you know, by the way, that Harold Walter DODD (b1900) married Margery RAINFORD (b1896) in 1926 at Hoylake? In my tree both are grandchildren of Alice HUGHES (b1834 Hoose) - so yet another first-cousin marriage in your family! Regards Gordon >Dear Gordon, >My heartfelt thanks yet again for your most excellent and very welcome >help, >which I greatly appreciate. Poor Susannah Dodd (Summers). >She didn't survive long into the marriage, and left a very young child, >Harold Walter, to add to Thomas Dodd's already large brood. I'm so >delighted to have a surname for her. >I've checked on Cheshire BMD, and I think you might agree, that Alice >Margaret Dodd, registered March qtr. 1880 must be one and the same as >Daisy >Dodd of the 1901 census, who should have shown as 21, not 22. I believe >'Daisy' to be a popular pet name for Margaret. In 1891 census, she is >Alice >M. Dodd and correctly aged 11. >I spent last night searching my 'archive' (aka mountain of paperwork), and >have discovered a few more details, which I would like to note here, then >they're safely in the archives of the list, which gives Thomas Dodd's >third >wife as Jessie Stanley, marriage on Cheshire BMD as Wirral, June qtr. >1903, >and their last child as Thomas Dodd jnr., so the nine children of the >three >marriages are: >Thomas Dodd and Mary Jane Dacey nee Sherlock (married 25 April 1879, >Holy >Trinity, Hoylake) >Alice Margaret, 1880 >Evelyn Edith, 1881 (although I think she was registered as Eveline Mary) >Henrietta, 1886 >Martha Amy, 1887 >Arthur Tom, 1888 >Wilhelmina, 1890 >Ida Nannie, 1892 > >Mary Jane Dodd dies 4 August 1898, buried Holy Trinity, Hoylake aged >47 >Thomas Dodd marries to Susannah Summers 1899 and have: >Harold Walter, 1900 >Susannah Dodd dies 25 November 1902, buried Holy Trinity, Hoylake >aged 46 >Thomas Dodd marries to Jessie Stanley June qtr. 1903, Wirral and have: >Thomas Dodd (not sure when as Cheshire BMD doesn't yet show this). >Not surprising that Thomas Dodd had three wives. As a fisherman, and >coxswain of the Hoylake lifeboat, he had to have someone at home to see >to all the children. >Once again, Gordon, thank you for all your patient and continuing help. >Best regards, >Yvonne

Hello Pat Putting Genuki, followed by the county, in a google search-box is always a good starting point when you're trying to pinpoint a location. Can I suggest you have a look at :- http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/LAN/Cheetham/ Regards Gordon Wirral UK >Hello all, has anyone heard of this place and can you tell me whereabouts >it >is please, as I seem to have found some missing family there in the >1901 >census. Thanks ,Pat

Hello Errol, I'm sorry but this is a new search for me. All I have right now are the certificates. I know nothing of the HINDLEY family other then the certificate telling me Helen has joined the FULTON family. Cheers for now, Pat and Bill mayo-gal@telus.net > Hi > > Pat and Bill wrote - >> >> Also Helen HINDLEY age 22, her father being Harry HINDLEY ( deceased ) >> in >> 1928. the address given is 12 Sea View Hoylake. > > I went to Hoylake Parade school and one of my classmates was JEAN HINDLEY > who had beautiful red hair. Would love to know what became of her. Is > she > on your tree? > > Errol (nee Crockford), Marysville, Victoria, Australia -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.14.14/547 - Release Date: 22/11/2006

Dear Gordon, My heartfelt thanks yet again for your most excellent and very welcome help, which I greatly appreciate. Poor Susannah Dodd (Summers). She didn't survive long into the marriage, and left a very young child, Harold Walter, to add to Thomas Dodd's already large brood. I'm so delighted to have a surname for her. I've checked on Cheshire BMD, and I think you might agree, that Alice Margaret Dodd, registered March qtr. 1880 must be one and the same as Daisy Dodd of the 1901 census, who should have shown as 21, not 22. I believe 'Daisy' to be a popular pet name for Margaret. In 1891 census, she is Alice M. Dodd and correctly aged 11. I spent last night searching my 'archive' (aka mountain of paperwork), and have discovered a few more details, which I would like to note here, then they're safely in the archives of the list, which gives Thomas Dodd's third wife as Jessie Stanley, marriage on Cheshire BMD as Wirral, June qtr. 1903, and their last child as Thomas Dodd jnr., so the nine children of the three marriages are: Thomas Dodd and Mary Jane Dacey nee Sherlock (married 25 April 1879, Holy Trinity, Hoylake) Alice Margaret, 1880 Evelyn Edith, 1881 (although I think she was registered as Eveline Mary) Henrietta, 1886 Martha Amy, 1887 Arthur Tom, 1888 Wilhelmina, 1890 Ida Nannie, 1892 Mary Jane Dodd dies 4 August 1898, buried Holy Trinity, Hoylake aged 47 Thomas Dodd marries to Susannah Summers 1899 and have: Harold Walter, 1900 Susannah Dodd dies 25 November 1902, buried Holy Trinity, Hoylake aged 46 Thomas Dodd marries to Jessie Stanley June qtr. 1903, Wirral and have: Thomas Dodd (not sure when as Cheshire BMD doesn't yet show this). Not surprising that Thomas Dodd had three wives. As a fisherman, and coxswain of the Hoylake lifeboat, he had to have someone at home to see to all the children. Once again, Gordon, thank you for all your patient and continuing help. Best regards, Yvonne >> Hi again Yvonne Believe I've may have found the second wife, if not the third :- Marriages 1899 Wirral Civil Thomas DODD and Susannah SUMMERS (Cheshire BMD ref WOO/27/67) 1901 Census RG13/3421 folio 6 page 5 Royal Infirmary, Liverpool Susannah DODD, private patient, 44, LAN Rusholme Deaths 1902 Woodchurch Susannah DODD aged 46 (Cheshire BMD ref WOO/15/97) As regards the "ninth child" I have in my tree the same 8 as you have in your list viz from Alice Margaret b1880 to Harold Walter 1900, but in the 1901 Census:- RG13/3387 folio 51 page 34 28 Grove Road, Hoylake Thomas DODD, head, M, 48, fisherman, LAN Liverpool Daisy, daur, 22, S, domestic nurse, CHS Hoylake Arthur, son, 13, CHS Hoylake Wilhelmina, daur, 10, CHS Hoylake Nany, daur, 8, CHS Hoylake Harold Walter, son, 1, CHS Hoylake If ages are precise then 22 year-old Daisy would have been born prior to April 1879, whereas the Thomas DODD/Mary Jane SHERLOCK marriage wasn't until 25 April 1879 (in Hoylake Holy Trinity). Mary Jane had of course been previously married to a William Edward DACEY (1872 in Liverpool St Andrew) and I'm wondering if Thomas DODD had also been previously married, Daisy being a fruit of his first marriage? Alternatively, Daisy might have been a daughter of William & Mary Jane DACEY's whom Thomas DODD had taken under his wing and came to regard as one of his own children? Best Gordon <<

Hello all, has anyone heard of this place and can you tell me whereabouts it is please, as I seem to have found some missing family there in the 1901 census. Thanks ,Pat

I would agree also and hope all goes well. I have experienced something like it myself: my son found me at a time when I knew I would be the only one left. I am pursuing my family research for him, and his two daughters, should they find an interest in it after I've gone. >From experience, I found that new ancestral relationships have to be worked on in the same way as any other, even though they are tied by blood. Janet > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <Annaj464@aol.com> > > >> Hi Marged - Yes - Little Sutton. I have had two 2 hr phone chats to my >> sister and we get on brilliantly, just like the brother I found and met a >> month ago! I haven't had family for 60 years and now I am finding mountians!! >> My head is in a spin and its wonderful - Jackie >>