They stayed Marged because some of them were Jewish and they knew they were safe here. A lot of Polish people here still are Jewish. I met one a long time ago when I was ballroom dancing at competition standard, who partnered me on a Saturday night at the local Town Hall and who told me "I am Jew; don't tell Mister Hitler" ;-) His sense of humour. Janet ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marged" <marged36@btopenworld.com> > Absolutely agree with you here Janet, and I think part of the reason that the new Polish people have found Southport a good place to come to is that we already have a Polish community, probably the World War 2 people that you mention. > > When I mention the Poles in Southport, I am speaking of about 6,000 recent immigrants. > > My own Great Grandfather was an immigrant to Liverpool from Germany in about 1877 - probably intending to pass through on his way to America - who knows what stopped him and kept him here? > > Marged >

Absolutely agree with you here Janet, and I think part of the reason that the new Polish people have found Southport a good place to come to is that we already have a Polish community, probably the World War 2 people that you mention. When I mention the Poles in Southport, I am speaking of about 6,000 recent immigrants. My own Great Grandfather was an immigrant to Liverpool from Germany in about 1877 - probably intending to pass through on his way to America - who knows what stopped him and kept him here? Marged The Polish people have been with us here since the end of WW2. Some of them flew as airmen in our RAF. I know as much because my grandmother was an HEO in the Civil Service, evacuated to Norbreck, Blackpool during the war, ultimately analysing the case histories of the Polish Airmen who remained in this country for their eligibility for a State Pension. Maybe some of you will know enough about our Civil Service at the time to know that married women were not permitted into the Civil Service. My Mother was illegitimate, but my Grandmother still got through Establishment, examinations and medical because the doctor who examined her chose to ignore what he found. As she reached for the door he asked her about it. I think we can eliminate the Polish people who have been here for years from any analysis of the current day situation; many of them have already served their torment.

The Polish people have been with us here since the end of WW2. Some of them flew as airmen in our RAF. I know as much because my grandmother was an HEO in the Civil Service, evacuated to Norbreck, Blackpool during the war, ultimately analysing the case histories of the Polish Airmen who remained in this country for their eligibility for a State Pension. Maybe some of you will know enough about our Civil Service at the time to know that married women were not permitted into the Civil Service. My Mother was illegitimate, but my Grandmother still got through Establishment, examinations and medical because the doctor who examined her chose to ignore what he found. As she reached for the door he asked her about it. I think we can eliminate the Polish people who have been here for years from any analysis of the current day situation; many of them have already served their torment. Janet ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marged" <marged36@btopenworld.com> To: <eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, December 18, 2006 9:09 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] Christmas > Janet, I think we have to look upon the world as a global village today. Yes, people from the West Indies did come to Britain after the war, invited by King George 6th to come and help us build a new Britain. > > Now, the influx is people from Europe is happening because we are all part of the European Community. Why should our young people want to leave Britain because of this? > > A week or so ago, I visited our local (Southport) indoor market, and called at the Chinese supermarket stall. I was amazed to find that a lot of the stock, far from being Chinese, was Polish, and not only that, but the people buying the stuff were Polish too. The lady working on the till was Chinese, but she was actually speaking Polish. It was a surreal experience and I loved it. > > I know there has been a big increase in our local Polish community, because it has been in the news. In fact, the Parish Priest in a town Church has learnt a phrase of welcome in Polish. > > I look forward to the influence of the Polish culture, to their arts and crafts appearing in Southport, and perhaps their music and dance. > > So far I can only speak about the Polish people, but no doubt there will be other communities springing up. > > Marged > > > I don't know if this is an untimely interception because I don't really have anything definite to contribute here, but when I was about going out to work, late 50s/60s a lot of young people were emigrating to Canada and New Zealand. I wanted to go to Canada myself. > At the time the British government was shipping in people from the West Indies to do the jobs that the Brits didn't want to do like sweeping the streets, cleaning out the public lavatories, and working on the underground. Does this sound familiar to those of you who are young in Britain today because it ought to. Whilst we are opening our gates to the European I feel sure there will be a brain drain out of the UK to other parts of the world again, if there is not already; I know it is taking place in our Teaching Hospitals, I have experienced it. That's not to say I don't welcome entrepreneurial spirit. I happen to think there ought to be more incentive to stay in the mother country. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-MERSEYSIDE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Janet, I think we have to look upon the world as a global village today. Yes, people from the West Indies did come to Britain after the war, invited by King George 6th to come and help us build a new Britain. Now, the influx is people from Europe is happening because we are all part of the European Community. Why should our young people want to leave Britain because of this? A week or so ago, I visited our local (Southport) indoor market, and called at the Chinese supermarket stall. I was amazed to find that a lot of the stock, far from being Chinese, was Polish, and not only that, but the people buying the stuff were Polish too. The lady working on the till was Chinese, but she was actually speaking Polish. It was a surreal experience and I loved it. I know there has been a big increase in our local Polish community, because it has been in the news. In fact, the Parish Priest in a town Church has learnt a phrase of welcome in Polish. I look forward to the influence of the Polish culture, to their arts and crafts appearing in Southport, and perhaps their music and dance. So far I can only speak about the Polish people, but no doubt there will be other communities springing up. Marged I don't know if this is an untimely interception because I don't really have anything definite to contribute here, but when I was about going out to work, late 50s/60s a lot of young people were emigrating to Canada and New Zealand. I wanted to go to Canada myself. At the time the British government was shipping in people from the West Indies to do the jobs that the Brits didn't want to do like sweeping the streets, cleaning out the public lavatories, and working on the underground. Does this sound familiar to those of you who are young in Britain today because it ought to. Whilst we are opening our gates to the European I feel sure there will be a brain drain out of the UK to other parts of the world again, if there is not already; I know it is taking place in our Teaching Hospitals, I have experienced it. That's not to say I don't welcome entrepreneurial spirit. I happen to think there ought to be more incentive to stay in the mother country.

I don't know if this is an untimely interception because I don't really have anything definite to contribute here, but when I was about going out to work, late 50s/60s a lot of young people were emigrating to Canada and New Zealand. I wanted to go to Canada myself. At the time the British government was shipping in people from the West Indies to do the jobs that the Brits didn't want to do like sweeping the streets, cleaning out the public lavatories, and working on the underground. Does this sound familiar to those of you who are young in Britain today because it ought to. Whilst we are opening our gates to the European I feel sure there will be a brain drain out of the UK to other parts of the world again, if there is not already; I know it is taking place in our Teaching Hospitals, I have experienced it. That's not to say I don't welcome entrepreneurial spirit. I happen to think there ought to be more incentive to stay in the mother country. Janet ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marged" <marged36@btopenworld.com> > Pat I wonder if your husband's folk could have gone to Canada as part of a big drive to get miners out there? I know some of my own family might have gone there from the Midlands as miners > > Marged > My understanding is the Canadian Government had a big banner campaign for > people to come and settle in the West ( of Canada ). The railway also needed > folks to settle across Canada for there Rail to go from Coast to Coast. So > they too were pushing for people to come. Land was $ 10.00 an acre. Perhaps > my Grandfather heard the " good news " while working at the railway station. > Just guest work George, my brick walls. > My husbands family also came to Canada 1910/1912 from Nottingham, England, > also Leicestershire. We don't know the reason why ?. > Season's Greeting

I remember the ships on the Mersey on New Years Eve. At the stroke of midnight all their sirens blazing.We lived in Bromborough not far from the River. I was the darkest person in our family and expected to let the New Year in.A few minutes before midnight I was sent outside with some salt and a lump of coal. Mum would say 'Stay there until you hear the ships sirens on the River then knock on the door and wish everyone a very Happy New Year.' I don't know what happened to the salt and coal! After that was done we all settled down to bun loaf and ginger wine,lots of other goodies and-my family being mostly Irish- a good sing song.. To all you Aussie listers I hope your weather is kind to you on Christmas Day. We are hoping for rain!! I have been here since 1965 and will never get used to Christmas in the Summer! Thank you everyone for sharing your Christmas memories,happy and sad. I wish you and your families all the joy and blessings of the Christmas Season and a Happy, healthy and safe 2007 Margaret in Australia.

Pat I wonder if your husband's folk could have gone to Canada as part of a big drive to get miners out there? I know some of my own family might have gone there from the Midlands as miners Marged My understanding is the Canadian Government had a big banner campaign for people to come and settle in the West ( of Canada ). The railway also needed folks to settle across Canada for there Rail to go from Coast to Coast. So they too were pushing for people to come. Land was $ 10.00 an acre. Perhaps my Grandfather heard the " good news " while working at the railway station. Just guest work George, my brick walls. My husbands family also came to Canada 1910/1912 from Nottingham, England, also Leicestershire. We don't know the reason why ?. Season's Greeting

Hi - I'm new to the list and this is my first email. I will send my research interests in the New Year, however I have enjoyed the emails about the 'Pool. I was 13 when we emigrated to South Australia (I now live in Queensland) We lived in Liverpool 6. My mum used to make bun loaf - I think I might have the recipe somewhere and I also remember the ginger wine. I was in St Phillips Brownies and Guides and used to enjoy carol singing at the local hospital (not sure which one) especially when we had finished and we were given mince pies and orange juice! By the way my Mum was JOAN HUNTINGTON. Her family had a bakery at Edge Lane. Some of the folk on the list may remember Hunty's Bread? I went to Childwall Valley High and I was delighted to finally meet Maureen (a member of this list) who also went to CVHS as we live near each other now. We had been trying to get together for several years. We have so many things in common not the least of which is family history. I wish you all a Very Merry Christmas and a happy and healthy 2007. Elaine nee ROGERS Qld Australia

Hello listers, Haven't contributed for a long time but since people are interested in how and why people emigrated, I can tell you a bit about what my gr-gr grandfather, Thomas Perkes (born in Stourbridge but later lived in Liverpool) wrote in a long letter to one of his sons about his travels on merchant ships and his endeavours to emigrate. He first left Liverpool in 1869, at age 16 on a merchant ship for New Orleans, then did quite a bit of travelling as an A.B. seaman throughout the 1870s to the early 1880s. It seems he decided to emigrate three times. First time was as a single man sometime in the mid 1870s - to Melbourne Australia because, as he wrote "I wanted to get to Melbourne, as I had bought books to educate myself in navigation to become an officer in the Merchant Marine Service." That was "a beautiful full-rigged ship, going out to Melbourne with both saloon and steerage passengers (. . .)." However, six days after that ship left Canning Dock, it was hit in the night by a steamer sailing from Antwerp to Montréal, and sank (the passengers and crew made it off, rescued by another ship, but all the livestock drowned). He then worked on the Cheshire Railway line as a porter, but then went back to the ships (I think the pay was better). Second time, he decided to emigrate to Philadephia, because though he was now married with a first child soon to be on the way (in 1881 was living with his parents at 15 Whitfield Terrace) , he was working at "Eastman's Ltd. (Refrigerator), but didn't have much work. Left on the S.S. British King for Philadephia,2 and brought out his wife. Their first child became ill, his wife became homewick, so they returned to Liverpool in 1884. At one point, describing working conditions he writes: "We went to Liverpool again and stayed with my Mother and Father. I got a job with the Telephone Company in Liverpool as ground man, worked up to be a first class wire man. One job we had was running cables through the tunnel being run over to Birkenhead and left on my own accord, as Lillian was born and Charlie was a baby and we had to board out when we working away from home. I walked to and from St. Helen for months - 12 miles each way, and from Warrington - 14 miles for months at a time. Finally I quit." And: "I got a job at the Grain Storage & Elevator Company running a boiler and pair of engines on the locomotive principle, had a bust-up with the Chief Engineer, as sometimes I had to work night and day for three and four days running and my wife had to bring my meals down." Finally, he emigrated with wife and whole family to Hamilton Ontario Canada in about 1907: Again, employment troubles: "I went to work as an extra hand at Eastman refrigerator again and finally was put on the permanent staff, occasionally made dock man - one of three. Some time after, the other big Beef (chilled) Companies made up their minds to run Eastman's off the wholesale market so they bought up every available hoof in the U.S.A., putting Eastman, Ltd. out of the market altogether, as Eastman's had to buy all beef for their own stores in England, Wales, Scotland and Ireland. So the two dock men were laid off, although I, as a refrigerator employee, was kept on until my dear wife and I decided to come out to Canada, which we did." It appears that he had steady employment in Canada as an engineer working with boilers at Westinghouse and Nordic Cotton Mills and public waterworks. Sorry if this is a bit long, but I thought some of the details on jobs and working conditions might be of some interest. As for my mom's side, have recently knocked down a brick wall on her paternal grandfather, Henry Saltmarsh born Great Hallingbury Essex (these folks were agricultural labourers), in a reform school in 1871 at age 15, but by 1876 was married in Hamilton Ontario to a Canadian-born woman, whose mother likely left Ireland because of the famine sometime in the 1830s. Anyway, hope this gives some idea of what people's aspirations and motivations were. Merry Christmas to all! Best regards, Carolyn Perkes Montreal Canada

Hello, I married in 1955 in Bebington Ches,worked in Birkenehead. I recall clearly that in 1955 -1958 several of our friends (similar age - mid 20s) left for Canada,New Zealand or Australia. The general feeling being that the future was brighter "off shore". I worked in a busy Dental Practice and can also recall that many patients had their Dental needs attend too on the NHS before emigrating. I have to add that although in 1955 we did not consider leaving England - we did leave in 1974 for NZ. I now live in Qld Australia. Merry Christmas. Maureen __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Hello Marged, My sister's and brothers pretty much live in Nanaimo. My parents also before they pasted away. There since 1957. One sister in Powell River. I married a soldier, therefore moved around a lot. We have a big Army Camp here in Wainwright, Alberta. Many British soldiers have also trained here. We have been hear since 1966. p.s it will be hard to follow me though the census. Saskatoon which is in Saskatchewan ( East of Nanaimo ) is a long was from the Yukon ( North ). The Yukon. Territories was mainly famous for its Gold Rush in 1898. I'm wondering if your not confusing Yukon with Yorkton, Saskatchewan ?. Each place has it's own beauty. I have never been to England. But I am always in awe with your beautiful Churches and buildings. Right now we can be sure of a white Christmas. We have a few feet of snow and a beautiful sunny day. The snow is glistening like we see on beautiful Christmas Cards. Best Wishes, Pat and Bill mayo-gal@telus.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marged" <marged36@btopenworld.com> To: <eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, December 18, 2006 2:06 AM Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] Christmas > Hello Pat - my grandfather was born in Nanaimo, on Vancouver Island, but > as he grew up in Salt Lake City, he thought he had been born there until > he was 65 and applying for his old age pension in the UK. > > So when I hear the Yukon mentioned, I think of him, because one of the > places he mentioned was Saskatoon. I wish I could ask him all about it > now! And ask him how he wound up living in Edge Lane, Liverpool 7, when > he had lived in such BEAUTIFUL places! > > Marged >> snip >> > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.15.24/592 - Release Date: 18/12/2006

Hi George, I would have to take many steps back to how we came to be in the Yukon, Territories. Far North in Canada. This Grandmother Bertha Kate Harding is on my Mothers side of the family. She was a WW1 war bride. She came from Surrey, England. My Grandfather married her in England. They boarded the ship SS Metagama in Liverpool on Feb. 8, 1919 to arrive Feb. 16, 1919 at Saint John , New Brunswick. Canada just two days before my Mother was born in Saint John. They then traveled by train and boat to the Yukon where my Breaden family were. They is much " Steam boat " history of my Breaden family on the net. For my Liverpool roots. I have to go back much farther to my 2x Great Grandparents Thomas FOGG 1831 and his wife Elizabeth ASHTON abt 1836 both born Liverpool. There daughter Rebecca FOGG born 1858 Poolton cum Seacome married Thomas FULTON born 1848 Birkenhead, Cheshire. Before Birkenhead my FULTON's are from Hoose ( Hoylake ), Cheshire. It was there son James born 1883 Birkenhead, Cheshire and his Mother Rebecca ( with second husband , Thomas JAMES b 1873 Wales, lived in Birkenhead ). that came to Calgary, Alberta. Canada about 1909. His wife to be Margaret Ann BROWN born 1882 Birkenhead, Cheshire followed later and married my Grandfather in Calgary Alberta in April 1910. We don't know what took my father James FULTON to the Yukon where he met and married my Mother. We have heard stories of him being in the Merchant Marines so may have been though that. Or perhaps went to find those beautiful gold nuggets they have there. I know nothing of that part of his life. As for why my Grandfather emigrated to Canada we don't know. He was killed in WWI 1916 Ypres, Belgium . My father was just 5 with two younger sisters. My grandmother died in 1941. We never heard stories on this side of the Pond of there lives in England. Grandfather was a linesman for the telephone company here before the war. In 1901 census Birkenhead he was 18 years of age working as a signalman for the railway in Birkenhead, Cheshire. My understanding is the Canadian Government had a big banner campaign for people to come and settle in the West ( of Canada ). The railway also needed folks to settle across Canada for there Rail to go from Coast to Coast. So they too were pushing for people to come. Land was $ 10.00 an acre. Perhaps my Grandfather heard the " good news " while working at the railway station. Just guest work George, my brick walls. My husbands family also came to Canada 1910/1912 from Nottingham, England, also Leicestershire. We don't know the reason why ?. Season's Greeting Pat and Bill Bakewell ( nee Fulton ). mayo-gal@telus.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "GEORGE HIGHTON" <george.highton@btinternet.com> To: <eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, December 18, 2006 1:12 AM Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] Christmas > Hi Pat & Bill > thanks for your memories but can you and anyone else go a bit further > and tell us how you came to be in Mayo ( obviously an Irishman got there > before you ) what was your grandmothers name ? where did she come from ? > did she come from Liverpool ? lets have stories of families emigrating and > why? , Maybe it would help us to understand what our ancestors went > through for a better life . My own brother Francis (Frank always a bit of > a rebel ) was a member of the fire service nd went through the firemans > strike ( 50s or 60s) and vowed never to go throu that again a lot of > firemen ,Policemen and ambulence men emigrated all over the world for a > better life he went to New Zealand and his wife and child followed later > , 4 weeks on the boat to get there so you get just an inkling of our > ancestors past travels Cheers George >snip >> -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.15.24/592 - Release Date: 18/12/2006

Welcome to the list, Elaine. I was a Girl Guide in Liverpool 7, at St Mark's church. I wonder if the hospital you sang at was Belmont Road? That's very close to St Philip's. Marged Hi - I'm new to the list and this is my first email. I will send my research interests in the New Year, however I have enjoyed the emails about the 'Pool. I was 13 when we emigrated to South Australia (I now live in Queensland) We lived in Liverpool 6. My mum used to make bun loaf - I think I might have the recipe somewhere and I also remember the ginger wine. I was in St Phillips Brownies and Guides and used to enjoy carol singing at the local hospital (not sure which one) especially when we had finished and we were given mince pies and orange juice!

Gday Marged I wouldnt have a clue where i was ,but i did spend abit of time at Alder Hey about1947 with rheumatic fever. Bert in Oz Marged wrote: >Herbert, I wonder if you were in Alder Hey hospital? My husband spent 11 >months in there during 1942, as the result of a road accident. I suppose >you would be in the quarantine ward - he was in there for a short time with >gastro enteritis. > >Marged > > >My first memory of christmas was in the very early war years,i was in a >Liverpool hospital with Scarlet Fever,the bombing was going on and i >know it was christmas time because i remember the nurse,s singing I,m >dreaming of a white christmas,we must have been in a cellar or something >like that because i can still see it today.All my life i have not been >too fond of christmas time,maybe this has been my hangup. >New Year is better and i also remember all the ships horns in or on the >Mersey. >I come from Litherland and not far from the docks. >Merry Christmas to all >Bert in Oz > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-MERSEYSIDE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

I think "I'm dreaming of a white Christmas was released in 1942" Janet ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marged" <marged36@btopenworld.com> > My first memory of christmas was in the very early war years,i was in a > Liverpool hospital with Scarlet Fever,the bombing was going on and i > know it was christmas time because i remember the nurse,s singing I,m > dreaming of a white christmas,we must have been in a cellar or something > like that because i can still see it today.All my life i have not been > too fond of christmas time,maybe this has been my hangup. > New Year is better and i also remember all the ships horns in or on the > Mersey. > I come from Litherland and not far from the docks. > Merry Christmas to all > Bert in Oz

Yes - and more in Herbert's district than Alder Hey Remember those Green Fever Ambulances they had during the war? Marged Could have been Fazacerley Hospital I was in there just befor the war with Diphtheria that was an Isolation Hospital George Herbert Seabrooke <lapool@alphalink.com.au> wrote: Gday Marged I wouldnt have a clue where i was ,but i did spend abit of time at Alder Hey about1947 with rheumatic fever. Bert in Oz

Hello Pat - my grandfather was born in Nanaimo, on Vancouver Island, but as he grew up in Salt Lake City, he thought he had been born there until he was 65 and applying for his old age pension in the UK. So when I hear the Yukon mentioned, I think of him, because one of the places he mentioned was Saskatoon. I wish I could ask him all about it now! And ask him how he wound up living in Edge Lane, Liverpool 7, when he had lived in such BEAUTIFUL places! Marged Merry Christmas to Everyone, As I was born in Mayo, Yukon. Canada. I can only enjoy the stories and tradition from Merseyside which I read on the list. Memories my families in years past would have also heard the boats and there horns and such. I enjoy reading of history in the past. A fond memory which I have was Christmas 1948. As we had left the Yukon in 1944 and moved to North Vancouver, British Columbia. I had not seen my Grandmother till 1948. When she came for a visit. She arrived late at night on the train. I as a young girl that could not go to sleep till I knew my Grandmother had arrived. As I was in bed, she came to my bedside. She had on a beautiful muskrat fur coat. It was so soft. I had to run my fingers up and down the sleeve. Hearing a train whistle always brought back memories to me after that. We took my Grandmother shopping and all along the streets the stores had wonderful Christmas music playing. I was so full of excitement and skipped along holding onto my Mom's hand. As a treat that Christmas. My grandmother took my sister and I for our very first perm. At that time it was called a Cold Wave. All I remember was it was like a big spider with all these cords attached to curler's. All these attached curlers were so heavy. I could not keep my head up. My hair was pretty curly that Christmas. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you all, may you have much success with your genealogy research in the coming year. A Very Merry Christmas and a Happy, Prosperous and Peaceful New Year. Best Wishes for 2007 Pat and Bill mayo-gal@telus.net -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.15.23/591 - Release Date: 17/12/2006 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-MERSEYSIDE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.433 / Virus Database: 268.15.23/591 - Release Date: 17/12/2006 15:17

Hi Pat & Bill thanks for your memories but can you and anyone else go a bit further and tell us how you came to be in Mayo ( obviously an Irishman got there before you ) what was your grandmothers name ? where did she come from ? did she come from Liverpool ? lets have stories of families emigrating and why? , Maybe it would help us to understand what our ancestors went through for a better life . My own brother Francis (Frank always a bit of a rebel ) was a member of the fire service nd went through the firemans strike ( 50s or 60s) and vowed never to go throu that again a lot of firemen ,Policemen and ambulence men emigrated all over the world for a better life he went to New Zealand and his wife and child followed later , 4 weeks on the boat to get there so you get just an inkling of our ancestors past travels Cheers George Pat and Bill <mayo-gal@telus.net> wrote: Merry Christmas to Everyone, As I was born in Mayo, Yukon. Canada. I can only enjoy the stories and tradition from Merseyside which I read on the list. Memories my families in years past would have also heard the boats and there horns and such. I enjoy reading of history in the past. A fond memory which I have was Christmas 1948. As we had left the Yukon in 1944 and moved to North Vancouver, British Columbia. I had not seen my Grandmother till 1948. When she came for a visit. She arrived late at night on the train. I as a young girl that could not go to sleep till I knew my Grandmother had arrived. As I was in bed, she came to my bedside. She had on a beautiful muskrat fur coat. It was so soft. I had to run my fingers up and down the sleeve. Hearing a train whistle always brought back memories to me after that. We took my Grandmother shopping and all along the streets the stores had wonderful Christmas music playing. I was so full of excitement and skipped along holding onto my Mom's hand. As a treat that Christmas. My grandmother took my sister and I for our very first perm. At that time it was called a Cold Wave. All I remember was it was like a big spider with all these cords attached to curler's. All these attached curlers were so heavy. I could not keep my head up. My hair was pretty curly that Christmas. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you all, may you have much success with your genealogy research in the coming year. A Very Merry Christmas and a Happy, Prosperous and Peaceful New Year. Best Wishes for 2007 Pat and Bill mayo-gal@telus.net -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.15.23/591 - Release Date: 17/12/2006 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-MERSEYSIDE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Cheers George

Could have been Fazacerley Hospital I was in there just befor the war with Diphtheria that was an Isolation Hospital George Herbert Seabrooke <lapool@alphalink.com.au> wrote: Gday Marged I wouldnt have a clue where i was ,but i did spend abit of time at Alder Hey about1947 with rheumatic fever. Bert in Oz Marged wrote: >Herbert, I wonder if you were in Alder Hey hospital? My husband spent 11 >months in there during 1942, as the result of a road accident. I suppose >you would be in the quarantine ward - he was in there for a short time with >gastro enteritis. > >Marged > > >My first memory of christmas was in the very early war years,i was in a >Liverpool hospital with Scarlet Fever,the bombing was going on and i >know it was christmas time because i remember the nurse,s singing I,m >dreaming of a white christmas,we must have been in a cellar or something >like that because i can still see it today.All my life i have not been >too fond of christmas time,maybe this has been my hangup. >New Year is better and i also remember all the ships horns in or on the >Mersey. >I come from Litherland and not far from the docks. >Merry Christmas to all >Bert in Oz > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-MERSEYSIDE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-MERSEYSIDE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Cheers George

I also forgot to add another plea .... I am hleping my newly found half sister to research her father's family and need to find sites particularly on Bootle, Crosby and Toxteth Park as well as Liverpool, Wirral and Merserside in general - Hopefully - Jackie