Hi I`m Terry Bostock from West Yorkshire and being new to this list I would like to declare my Merseyside family surname interests. Fain, Winstanley, and Gawley from the Merseyside list. I am also researching Bostock, Colley, Hough and Maybury from the Cheshire area and Margison from the Yorkshire area. Regards Terry Bostock boz.zie@virgin.net

PERK(E)S in Liverppol by 1861 (but from Stourbridge/Wollaston. PERRY from Stourbridge COLEY Halesowen. Best wishes for a Happy New Year! ***************************************** Carolyn Perkes, Canada

Hi again Yvonne Correction! James Joseph SHIPMAN's birth was in fact registered in the September quarter of 1863 (as stated in your earlier post), the reference being Liverpool 8b/217. Apologies. Gordon

GUY, HARRISON, POWER, IRVING, FORSYTH And possibly BALDWIN (brick wall trying to trace my great-great grandmother who I can only find for certain as Sarah IRVING, a widow on the 1891 and 1901 censuses). Mainly Everton/West Derby. Sandra

Hi Yvonne You wrote :- >Was Mary Youde a child of Robert Youd and Isabella Powell (above), >which >would make her a half-sister to Joseph Powell jnr.? I certainly have a daughter Mary pencilled-in on my family tree in addition to the Elizabeth baptised in West Kirby St Bridget on 10 June 1821 and the Martha born in June 1820 who lived only a matter of three months.. Cheshire BMD has the death of a 48 year-old Isabel YOUDES in 1840 in Birkenhead, leading me to believe that this might be the family in the 1841 Census :- HO107/126/6 folio 12 page 19 Waterloo Place, Birkenhead Robert YOUDS, 45, labourer, Yes (born in county) Ann, 20, Yes Mary, 8, Yes Twenty year-old Ann is a bit of a mystery - possibly a daughter of Robert's from an earlier marriage? In the 1851 Census Robert was of course lodging with his eldest daughter :- HO107 Little Meols, Cheshire Thomas LITTLE, 40, fisherman, CHS Bidston Elizabeth, wife, 30, CHS West Kirby Robert, son, 7, CHS West Kirby Joseph, son, 4, CHS West Kirby Ann, daur, 3, CHS West Kirby Martha, daur, 1, CHS West Kirby Robert YOUDS, lodger, 57, labourer, CHS Thurstaston This couple also had a daughter Isabel, baptised in Hoylake Holy Trinity on 11 August 1854, suggesting that it's the right family. James Joseph SHIPMAN looks to have married Ruth HELLON from Cumberland in Tranmere St Paul in 1884 (Cheshire BMD). A copy of the marriage certificate should give father's name & occupation, but to confirm his mother's identity we'd need a copy of his birth certificate, which looks to be in the June quarter of 1862, ref Liverpool 8b/344. Best regards Gordon From: "Yvonne Purdy" <von@yvonnepurdy.free-online.co.uk> To: <eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 12:18 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] Powell connection to James Joseph Shipman >Hi John, >Many thanks for your reply, and the gentle 'push' into lateral thinking >(never my strong point, takes me a while to get there). I think your >point >1. is correct, although I think it must be a half sister to get to the >Shipman connection. >I've started again with Joseph Powell. So far, I think his baptism shows >on >Cheshire Parish Register Database as 24 December 1815, son of Isabell >Powell, widow of Little Meols. There is a marriage on IGI of Joseph >Powell >to Isabella Davies on 31 December 1814, St. Peter, Liverpool, so Joseph >Powell, snr., must have died between December 1814 and December >1815. >The IGI gives a marriage of Isabella Powell to Robert Youd on 23 January >1820, at St. Peter Church, Liverpool. >I've checked on Ancestry BMD's, and James Joseph Shipman's birth is >registered in Liverpool in 1863, Jul/Aug/Sept qtr. Liverpool. >Very oddly, there is a baptism in St. Bridget's, West Kirby on 7 April >1867, >James Joseph Shipman, son of James and Mary Shipman, Tailor, >Liverpool. >Why the delay of nearly four years to baptise him? >Lancashirebmd gives a marriage of a James Shipman to Mary Youde in St. >Peter, 1862. >Was Mary Youde a child of Robert Youd and Isabella Powell (above), >which >would make her a half-sister to Joseph Powell jnr.? >Can anyone place any of the above? >Many thanks and regards, >Yvonne

All lived in Liverpool. McAuley's and Laird's came from Ireland. Others from Lancashire and Shropshire. Hoping there is someone out there with similar interests. Best wishes and a Happy New Year to everyone. Elisabeth Mihalj (Bond) Toronto,ON, Canada.

- Regards John Kane 0773 056 2160 _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ _/ _/ Map to our house (3 Lindfield Rd., W5 1QS) here: _/ http://tinyurl.com/byp4p _/ We are directly opposite the Methodist church _/ and next door but one to Duffys Pub _/ (on map, see pin A, first entry in the adverts column). _/ _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/

ROBERTS I have Alice Hughes marrying Edward Alty 1892 P&P Crosby Have her parents as Patrick Hughes b1836 Ireland and Alice Roberts b1839 Gt Crosby from Census's BMD's and family chatter. Not proven. No more info on Hughes other than siblings of Alice but I go back one more Generation with Roberts. Perhaps we link somewhere. I live in hope. Happy New Year to All Christine ----- Original Message ----- From: "IRENE DOUGHTY" <irenedoughty@btopenworld.com> To: <eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 3:01 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] CONNELL.WILLIAMS.ROBERTS.BLOORE. mostlyLiverpool > > > Marged <marged36@btopenworld.com> wrote: These are the names I am > researching. If you wish to join in the Roll Call, > just put your names into the subject line of your e-mail (I think this is > what people requested last time we had a roll call) > > My names are all based in the Liverpool area - Cors is from Germany > (Prussia) > > Marged > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-MERSEYSIDE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-MERSEYSIDE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

These are some of my main names for the Roll-Call. Cunningham Alty Rowlands Henning Hughes Happy to communicate with anyone else with similar interests. Look forward to hearing from you Christine Cunningham Peterborough UK (Hubby Is A Scouser) ----- Original Message ----- From: "IRENE DOUGHTY" <irenedoughty@btopenworld.com> To: <eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 3:01 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] CONNELL.WILLIAMS.ROBERTS.BLOORE. mostlyLiverpool > > > Marged <marged36@btopenworld.com> wrote: These are the names I am > researching. If you wish to join in the Roll Call, > just put your names into the subject line of your e-mail (I think this is > what people requested last time we had a roll call) > > My names are all based in the Liverpool area - Cors is from Germany > (Prussia) > > Marged > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-MERSEYSIDE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-MERSEYSIDE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear All, These are the names I am researching. Paul Goodman Folkestone Kent

Marged <marged36@btopenworld.com> wrote: These are the names I am researching. If you wish to join in the Roll Call, just put your names into the subject line of your e-mail (I think this is what people requested last time we had a roll call) My names are all based in the Liverpool area - Cors is from Germany (Prussia) Marged ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-MERSEYSIDE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

You make a useful and interesting point. I do feel however that the records that might be found in Genes Reunited, should be checked in the same way that we would check those in IGI. Janet ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Chapman" <paul.chapman286@ntlworld.com> > Hi John, have you joined Genes Reunited ? It matches names on your tree with > those on other trees. I have made some amazing discoveries by this method > which would have taken me years to find by myself. > > Best wishes > > Paul

Hi John, These days, I'm more surprised to find any of my Wirral families being married in their home parish than popping over to Liverpool to tie the knot. It certainly seemed to be an extremely popular thing to do, possibly made it more of a day out when holidays were few and far between, and more of a 'do'; I've seen other reasons given too, maybe less costly and fewer questions asked than in the home parish, and, if the bride was in a 'bit of a rush' to marry, it would raise far fewer eyebrows in Liverpool than at home. Kind regards, Yvonne > From: eng-merseyside-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-merseyside-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of John Kane Sent: 30 December 2006 13:07 To: eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] Powell connection to James Joseph Shipman Yvonne It all seems to check out doesn't it? But why this to-ing and fro-ing (before MerseyRail) between the Wirral and Liverpool though? Surely a St Peters in the Meols area of the Wirral wouldn't be described as St Peter's Liverpool. Why didn't Isabella get married to Joseph Powell or to Robert Youd in her home parish (maybe St Bridget's)? <

Yvonne It all seems to check out doesn't it? But why this to-ing and fro-ing (before MerseyRail) between the Wirral and Liverpool though? Surely a St Peters in the Meols area of the Wirral wouldn't be described as St Peter's Liverpool. Why didn't Isabella get married to Joseph Powell or to Robert Youd in her home parish (maybe St Bridget's)? On 30/12/06, Yvonne Purdy <von@yvonnepurdy.free-online.co.uk> wrote: > > Hi John, > > Many thanks for your reply, and the gentle 'push' into lateral thinking > (never my strong point, takes me a while to get there). I think your > point > 1. is correct, although I think it must be a half sister to get to the > Shipman connection. > > I've started again with Joseph Powell. So far, I think his baptism shows > on > Cheshire Parish Register Database as 24 December 1815, son of Isabell > Powell, widow of Little Meols. There is a marriage on IGI of Joseph > Powell > to Isabella Davies on 31 December 1814, St. Peter, Liverpool, so Joseph > Powell, snr., must have died between December 1814 and December 1815. > > The IGI gives a marriage of Isabella Powell to Robert Youd on 23 January > 1820, at St. Peter Church, Liverpool. > > I've checked on Ancestry BMD's, and James Joseph Shipman's birth is > registered in Liverpool in 1863, Jul/Aug/Sept qtr. Liverpool. > > Very oddly, there is a baptism in St. Bridget's, West Kirby on 7 April > 1867, > James Joseph Shipman, son of James and Mary Shipman, Tailor, Liverpool. > > Why the delay of nearly four years to baptise him? > > Lancashirebmd gives a marriage of a James Shipman to Mary Youde in St. > Peter, 1862. > > Was Mary Youde a child of Robert Youd and Isabella Powell (above), which > would make her a half-sister to Joseph Powell jnr.? > > Can anyone place any of the above? > > Many thanks and regards, > Yvonne > >> > From: eng-merseyside-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:eng-merseyside-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of John Kane > Sent: 30 December 2006 10:54 > To: eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] Powell connection to James Joseph Shipman > > Yvonne > > I'm new to this (joined the list yesterday) so apologies for stating the > obvious but have you exhausted each of these possibilities? > > 1. Joseph Powell had a sister who married a Shipman > 2. Jane McIver had a sister who married a Shipman > 3. Jane McIver's former husband Mr Hughes had a sister married to a > Shipman (she'd still refer to him as her nephew) > > John > << > On 30/12/06, Yvonne Purdy <von@yvonnepurdy.free-online.co.uk> wrote: > > > > Dear all, > > > > In 1881 census Hoose > > RG11/3573, folio 34, page 16, schedule 72, Lake Place > > > > Joseph POWELL, Head, Mar, 67, Fisherman, Hoylake > > Jane POWELL, Wife, Mar, 73, Liverpool > > William SWIFT, Grandson, Unmar, 22, Baker, Liverpool > > John Henry BIRD, Grandson, 10, Scholar, Little Meols > > Oscar Jones BIRD, Grandson, 8, Scholar, Little Meols > > James Joseph SHIPMAN, Nephew, Unmar, 17, Plumber, Liverpool > > > > Jane POWELL (formerly HUGHES, nee McIVER) is my 3 x gt. grandmother, > with > > her second husband Joseph POWELL. > > > > I have been unable to find the SHIPMAN connection to the > > Powell's. Please, > > can anyone help? > > > > Many thanks, > > Yvonne > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-MERSEYSIDE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Regards John Kane 0773 056 2160 _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ _/ _/ Map to our house (3 Lindfield Rd., W5 1QS) here: _/ http://tinyurl.com/byp4p _/ We are directly opposite the Methodist church _/ and next door but one to Duffys Pub _/ (on map, see pin A, first entry in the adverts column). _/ _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/

Hi John, Many thanks for your reply, and the gentle 'push' into lateral thinking (never my strong point, takes me a while to get there). I think your point 1. is correct, although I think it must be a half sister to get to the Shipman connection. I've started again with Joseph Powell. So far, I think his baptism shows on Cheshire Parish Register Database as 24 December 1815, son of Isabell Powell, widow of Little Meols. There is a marriage on IGI of Joseph Powell to Isabella Davies on 31 December 1814, St. Peter, Liverpool, so Joseph Powell, snr., must have died between December 1814 and December 1815. The IGI gives a marriage of Isabella Powell to Robert Youd on 23 January 1820, at St. Peter Church, Liverpool. I've checked on Ancestry BMD's, and James Joseph Shipman's birth is registered in Liverpool in 1863, Jul/Aug/Sept qtr. Liverpool. Very oddly, there is a baptism in St. Bridget's, West Kirby on 7 April 1867, James Joseph Shipman, son of James and Mary Shipman, Tailor, Liverpool. Why the delay of nearly four years to baptise him? Lancashirebmd gives a marriage of a James Shipman to Mary Youde in St. Peter, 1862. Was Mary Youde a child of Robert Youd and Isabella Powell (above), which would make her a half-sister to Joseph Powell jnr.? Can anyone place any of the above? Many thanks and regards, Yvonne >> From: eng-merseyside-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-merseyside-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of John Kane Sent: 30 December 2006 10:54 To: eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] Powell connection to James Joseph Shipman Yvonne I'm new to this (joined the list yesterday) so apologies for stating the obvious but have you exhausted each of these possibilities? 1. Joseph Powell had a sister who married a Shipman 2. Jane McIver had a sister who married a Shipman 3. Jane McIver's former husband Mr Hughes had a sister married to a Shipman (she'd still refer to him as her nephew) John << On 30/12/06, Yvonne Purdy <von@yvonnepurdy.free-online.co.uk> wrote: > > Dear all, > > In 1881 census Hoose > RG11/3573, folio 34, page 16, schedule 72, Lake Place > > Joseph POWELL, Head, Mar, 67, Fisherman, Hoylake > Jane POWELL, Wife, Mar, 73, Liverpool > William SWIFT, Grandson, Unmar, 22, Baker, Liverpool > John Henry BIRD, Grandson, 10, Scholar, Little Meols > Oscar Jones BIRD, Grandson, 8, Scholar, Little Meols > James Joseph SHIPMAN, Nephew, Unmar, 17, Plumber, Liverpool > > Jane POWELL (formerly HUGHES, nee McIVER) is my 3 x gt. grandmother, with > her second husband Joseph POWELL. > > I have been unable to find the SHIPMAN connection to the > Powell's. Please, > can anyone help? > > Many thanks, > Yvonne

Hi John, have you joined Genes Reunited ? It matches names on your tree with those on other trees. I have made some amazing discoveries by this method which would have taken me years to find by myself. Best wishes Paul -----Original Message----- From: eng-merseyside-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-merseyside-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of John Kane Sent: 30 December 2006 12:04 To: ENG-MERSEYSIDE@rootsweb.com; ENG-LIVERPOOL@rootsweb.com Subject: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] Am I doing this right? Hi everybody. Hope Christmas went well and the New Year is a happy one. Apologies if it's not done to crosspost the same query to the Liverpool and Merseyside lists. I am new to the list and three months into my family history work, so lots still to learn. One thing I have learnt is that veering off the path to examine a sparkly distant relative in the grass is counter-productive. What I'd like to do is just concentrate on the four tap-roots of my tree which are my grandparents lines, ie Kane, Sanders, Tomlinson and Laffey. I thought you guys might have some tips or contacts for people researching the same lines. Brief recap of research to date follows: LAFFEY My maternal grandmother was Catherine Laffey. Her father was Thomas Laffey born about 1857 in CastleBar, Co Mayo, Ireland. He married a Bridget Begley (children May, Thomas, Michael and James) before marrying my great-grandmother Annie Redmond, nee Wafer. They had four children, Annie, Catherine, William and Mary Alice. The 1901 census shows Thomas and Annie living at 14 Wilkin Street, Kirkdale, Liverpool Any leads as to Thomas Laffey's family in Co Mayo or Annie Wafer's in Co. Wexford gratefully received. SANDERS My maternal grandfather was William Sanders. I am researching the family tree stemming from his grandparents, John Sanders of Brandon and Emma Harrison of Boothby, both of which places are in Lincolnshire. They were born in 1841 and 1845 respectively, and they are my great-great-grandparents. They moved to Liverpool in the early 1860s, where John got a job as a dock labourer. They had nine children, these being: - Mary (b 1865) - William (b 1868) - Thomas (b 1870) - Sarah (b 1872) - John (my great-grandfather, b 1873, husband to Amelia Finnigan) - Charles (b 1877) - Samuel (b 1879) - Robert (b 1884) - Beatrice (b 1887) Census returns show the following Liverpool addresses: - 8 Callow Terrace, Blenheim Street (1871) - 8 Sefton Terrace (1881) - 32 Torr Street (1891, 1901) Hope someone can help me track down the offspring of my great-grandfather John's eight siblings. I have census returns (1891 and 1901) for 37 Summer Gardens in Kirkdale which shows a likely match for his brother William. KANE My paternal grandfather was James Kane, son of James CAIN and Isabella Noreen McAuley. James Cain was born in Port Glasgow in 1868, one of nine children belonging to John Cain of Co. Antrim and Elizabeth Kerr of Scottyland. Their names (taken from census returns at Hebburn Co Durham) are: - Peter b 1865 - Lizzie b 1866 - James (my great-grandfather) b 1868 - Catherine b 1870 - Margaret b 1875 - Mary Jean b 1877 - Arthur b 1881 - John Alexander b 1883 - Agnes b 1886 The family had moved to the Jarrow, Co.Durham area in the early 1870s, from where James Cain went back to Belfast, married Isabella, changed his name to get work on the docks, changed his religion when that didnt work before moving to Liverpool about 1914 with my grandfather James and siblings in tow, these being: - John Alexander - Lily - Jean - James Kane (my grandfather) - Isabel Noreen - Catherine Noreen Any leads for the Geordie Cains gratefully received TOMLINSON The last of the bunch is my paternal grandmother Flo Tomlinson, born 1897, daughter of Tommy Tomlinson and Sarah Ann Bowring Griffiths. Flo was the eldest of their eight children, the others being: - Robert (b.1899) - Thomas (b.1902) - Annie (b.1904) - Alfred (b.1908) - James (b.1910) - Mary - Richard (b.1918) I have managed to trace the Tomlinsons back to North Meols near Southport in the 1700s but I am stumped when it comes to my Dad's maternal cousins, ie the Tomlinsons. Dad has now passed into the GRO in the sky so no help there. So if anyone has links to the Tomlinsons of Bootle, info and help gratefully received. First post and I've probably broken all the rules but I shall try and be good in the future. Regards John Kane 0773 056 2160 _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ _/ _/ Map to our house (3 Lindfield Rd., W5 1QS) here: _/ http://tinyurl.com/byp4p _/ We are directly opposite the Methodist church _/ and next door but one to Duffys Pub _/ (on map, see pin A, first entry in the adverts column). _/ _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-MERSEYSIDE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.16.0/609 - Release Date: 29/12/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.16.0/609 - Release Date: 29/12/2006

These are the names I am researching. If you wish to join in the Roll Call, just put your names into the subject line of your e-mail (I think this is what people requested last time we had a roll call) My names are all based in the Liverpool area - Cors is from Germany (Prussia) Marged

Hello John Welcome to Merseyside list. It's fine to cross post to Merseyside and any other Rootsweb lists I hope you will find our list friendly and helpful. I am about to call for a "Roll Call" of all names, just to refresh our memories Marged - admin Hi everybody. Hope Christmas went well and the New Year is a happy one. Apologies if it's not done to crosspost the same query to the Liverpool and Merseyside lists. I am new to the list and three months into my family history work, so lots still to learn. One thing I have learnt is that veering off the path to examine a sparkly distant relative in the grass is counter-productive. What I'd like to do is just concentrate on the four tap-roots of my tree which are my grandparents lines, ie Kane, Sanders, Tomlinson and Laffey. I thought you guys might have some tips or contacts for people researching the same lines. Brief recap of research to date follows: LAFFEY My maternal grandmother was Catherine Laffey. Her father was Thomas Laffey born about 1857 in CastleBar, Co Mayo, Ireland. He married a Bridget Begley (children May, Thomas, Michael and James) before marrying my great-grandmother Annie Redmond, nee Wafer. They had four children, Annie, Catherine, William and Mary Alice. The 1901 census shows Thomas and Annie living at 14 Wilkin Street, Kirkdale, Liverpool Any leads as to Thomas Laffey's family in Co Mayo or Annie Wafer's in Co. Wexford gratefully received. SANDERS My maternal grandfather was William Sanders. I am researching the family tree stemming from his grandparents, John Sanders of Brandon and Emma Harrison of Boothby, both of which places are in Lincolnshire. They were born in 1841 and 1845 respectively, and they are my great-great-grandparents. They moved to Liverpool in the early 1860s, where John got a job as a dock labourer. They had nine children, these being: - Mary (b 1865) - William (b 1868) - Thomas (b 1870) - Sarah (b 1872) - John (my great-grandfather, b 1873, husband to Amelia Finnigan) - Charles (b 1877) - Samuel (b 1879) - Robert (b 1884) - Beatrice (b 1887) Census returns show the following Liverpool addresses: - 8 Callow Terrace, Blenheim Street (1871) - 8 Sefton Terrace (1881) - 32 Torr Street (1891, 1901) Hope someone can help me track down the offspring of my great-grandfather John's eight siblings. I have census returns (1891 and 1901) for 37 Summer Gardens in Kirkdale which shows a likely match for his brother William. KANE My paternal grandfather was James Kane, son of James CAIN and Isabella Noreen McAuley. James Cain was born in Port Glasgow in 1868, one of nine children belonging to John Cain of Co. Antrim and Elizabeth Kerr of Scottyland. Their names (taken from census returns at Hebburn Co Durham) are: - Peter b 1865 - Lizzie b 1866 - James (my great-grandfather) b 1868 - Catherine b 1870 - Margaret b 1875 - Mary Jean b 1877 - Arthur b 1881 - John Alexander b 1883 - Agnes b 1886 The family had moved to the Jarrow, Co.Durham area in the early 1870s, from where James Cain went back to Belfast, married Isabella, changed his name to get work on the docks, changed his religion when that didnt work before moving to Liverpool about 1914 with my grandfather James and siblings in tow, these being: - John Alexander - Lily - Jean - James Kane (my grandfather) - Isabel Noreen - Catherine Noreen Any leads for the Geordie Cains gratefully received TOMLINSON The last of the bunch is my paternal grandmother Flo Tomlinson, born 1897, daughter of Tommy Tomlinson and Sarah Ann Bowring Griffiths. Flo was the eldest of their eight children, the others being: - Robert (b.1899) - Thomas (b.1902) - Annie (b.1904) - Alfred (b.1908) - James (b.1910) - Mary - Richard (b.1918) I have managed to trace the Tomlinsons back to North Meols near Southport in the 1700s but I am stumped when it comes to my Dad's maternal cousins, ie the Tomlinsons. Dad has now passed into the GRO in the sky so no help there. So if anyone has links to the Tomlinsons of Bootle, info and help gratefully received. First post and I've probably broken all the rules but I shall try and be good in the future. Regards John Kane 0773 056 2160 _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ _/ _/ Map to our house (3 Lindfield Rd., W5 1QS) here: _/ http://tinyurl.com/byp4p _/ We are directly opposite the Methodist church _/ and next door but one to Duffys Pub _/ (on map, see pin A, first entry in the adverts column). _/ _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-MERSEYSIDE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.433 / Virus Database: 268.16.0/609 - Release Date: 29/12/2006 16:48

Hi everybody. Hope Christmas went well and the New Year is a happy one. Apologies if it's not done to crosspost the same query to the Liverpool and Merseyside lists. I am new to the list and three months into my family history work, so lots still to learn. One thing I have learnt is that veering off the path to examine a sparkly distant relative in the grass is counter-productive. What I'd like to do is just concentrate on the four tap-roots of my tree which are my grandparents lines, ie Kane, Sanders, Tomlinson and Laffey. I thought you guys might have some tips or contacts for people researching the same lines. Brief recap of research to date follows: LAFFEY My maternal grandmother was Catherine Laffey. Her father was Thomas Laffey born about 1857 in CastleBar, Co Mayo, Ireland. He married a Bridget Begley (children May, Thomas, Michael and James) before marrying my great-grandmother Annie Redmond, nee Wafer. They had four children, Annie, Catherine, William and Mary Alice. The 1901 census shows Thomas and Annie living at 14 Wilkin Street, Kirkdale, Liverpool Any leads as to Thomas Laffey's family in Co Mayo or Annie Wafer's in Co. Wexford gratefully received. SANDERS My maternal grandfather was William Sanders. I am researching the family tree stemming from his grandparents, John Sanders of Brandon and Emma Harrison of Boothby, both of which places are in Lincolnshire. They were born in 1841 and 1845 respectively, and they are my great-great-grandparents. They moved to Liverpool in the early 1860s, where John got a job as a dock labourer. They had nine children, these being: - Mary (b 1865) - William (b 1868) - Thomas (b 1870) - Sarah (b 1872) - John (my great-grandfather, b 1873, husband to Amelia Finnigan) - Charles (b 1877) - Samuel (b 1879) - Robert (b 1884) - Beatrice (b 1887) Census returns show the following Liverpool addresses: - 8 Callow Terrace, Blenheim Street (1871) - 8 Sefton Terrace (1881) - 32 Torr Street (1891, 1901) Hope someone can help me track down the offspring of my great-grandfather John's eight siblings. I have census returns (1891 and 1901) for 37 Summer Gardens in Kirkdale which shows a likely match for his brother William. KANE My paternal grandfather was James Kane, son of James CAIN and Isabella Noreen McAuley. James Cain was born in Port Glasgow in 1868, one of nine children belonging to John Cain of Co. Antrim and Elizabeth Kerr of Scottyland. Their names (taken from census returns at Hebburn Co Durham) are: - Peter b 1865 - Lizzie b 1866 - James (my great-grandfather) b 1868 - Catherine b 1870 - Margaret b 1875 - Mary Jean b 1877 - Arthur b 1881 - John Alexander b 1883 - Agnes b 1886 The family had moved to the Jarrow, Co.Durham area in the early 1870s, from where James Cain went back to Belfast, married Isabella, changed his name to get work on the docks, changed his religion when that didnt work before moving to Liverpool about 1914 with my grandfather James and siblings in tow, these being: - John Alexander - Lily - Jean - James Kane (my grandfather) - Isabel Noreen - Catherine Noreen Any leads for the Geordie Cains gratefully received TOMLINSON The last of the bunch is my paternal grandmother Flo Tomlinson, born 1897, daughter of Tommy Tomlinson and Sarah Ann Bowring Griffiths. Flo was the eldest of their eight children, the others being: - Robert (b.1899) - Thomas (b.1902) - Annie (b.1904) - Alfred (b.1908) - James (b.1910) - Mary - Richard (b.1918) I have managed to trace the Tomlinsons back to North Meols near Southport in the 1700s but I am stumped when it comes to my Dad's maternal cousins, ie the Tomlinsons. Dad has now passed into the GRO in the sky so no help there. So if anyone has links to the Tomlinsons of Bootle, info and help gratefully received. First post and I've probably broken all the rules but I shall try and be good in the future. Regards John Kane 0773 056 2160 _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ _/ _/ Map to our house (3 Lindfield Rd., W5 1QS) here: _/ http://tinyurl.com/byp4p _/ We are directly opposite the Methodist church _/ and next door but one to Duffys Pub _/ (on map, see pin A, first entry in the adverts column). _/ _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/

Yvonne I'm new to this (joined the list yesterday) so apologies for stating the obvious but have you exhausted each of these possibilities? 1. Joseph Powell had a sister who married a Shipman 2. Jane McIver had a sister who married a Shipman 3. Jane McIver's former husband Mr Hughes had a sister married to a Shipman (she'd still refer to him as her nephew) John On 30/12/06, Yvonne Purdy <von@yvonnepurdy.free-online.co.uk> wrote: > > Dear all, > > In 1881 census Hoose > RG11/3573, folio 34, page 16, schedule 72, Lake Place > > Joseph POWELL, Head, Mar, 67, Fisherman, Hoylake > Jane POWELL, Wife, Mar, 73, Liverpool > William SWIFT, Grandson, Unmar, 22, Baker, Liverpool > John Henry BIRD, Grandson, 10, Scholar, Little Meols > Oscar Jones BIRD, Grandson, 8, Scholar, Little Meols > James Joseph SHIPMAN, Nephew, Unmar, 17, Plumber, Liverpool > > Jane POWELL (formerly HUGHES, nee McIVER) is my 3 x gt. grandmother, with > her second husband Joseph POWELL. > > I have been unable to find the SHIPMAN connection to the > Powell's. Please, > can anyone help? > > Many thanks, > Yvonne > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-MERSEYSIDE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >