Hi all, For the whole of November, Ancestry are offering free access to their WWI service records, pension records, and medal cards. You just need to register with the site, but there is no subscription to pay. I received this information from a posting on another list and have visited the site. Ancestry seems a bit slow to me this evening - so demand might be high. Kathy Wirral

Mary Fletcher CLARKE was born at Runcorn in 1847. She was the daughter of Peter CLARKE and Sarah ECCLES. The family's usual residence was in Liverpool, but Peter, a Customs Officer, had temporarily been posted to Runcorn. The last record I have of Mary is as a witness to her brother's wedding in 1864. I can find no record of her on the census after that, nor any record that I can definitely say is her marriage or death. Does anyone know anything of Mary? David

Gordon, I bragged like Mad, most got a Photo, I will send you one or two off list. I am sure I told you but proud to do it again. Ron. ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 6:08 PM Subject: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] Great-grandad Ron? > Hi Ron > >>My oldest Grandson .....is now a Father in his own right and produced a >>Daughter that became a fifth living generation in June. > > I vaguely recollect you mentioning on the list about this time last year > that you were expecting to become a great-grandad in mid-2008. > Didn't notice any announcement, but then I have had a lot of problems with > my mails this year and didn't like to ask in case something had gone > wrong. > > Belated congratulations! > > Gordon > > From: "Ron Fitzpatrick" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2008 11:10 PM > Subject: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] Memorial Day and Medals > >>Both my Grandfathers served in WW1 and My Father and Mother in WW2. >>Dad in the Army Mum an Air-raid nurse. >>My Dad's Father Died 13 Days after WW1 ended in a Military Hospital in Dar >>es >Salaam, Tanzania Aged 36yrs - William Arthur Fitzpatrick 1882 - 1918, >>he left 4 sons >and a Daughter, (he never saw his Twins My Dad and His >>Sister). >>My Mum's Father survived WW1 and became a Liverpool Bobby, Emigrated to >> >Australia and Died here After my Grandmother did. >>I have all Medals from all three Men. My oldest Grandson wore them in the >>Anzac day >Parade in the Next of kin section; >>I followed and Videoed it all, afterwards we sat with the old Military >>personal and had a >cup of Tea. >>A very proud day, he had asked me could he do it, he is now a Father in >>his >>own right >and produced a Daughter that became a fifth living generation >>in >>June. >>Ron Fitzpatrick. E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (6.0.0.386) Database version: 5.11080 http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor-antivirus/

Both my Grandfathers served in WW1 and My Father and Mother in WW2. Dad in the Army Mum an Air-raid nurse. My Dad's Father Died 13 Days after WW1 ended in a Military Hospital in Dar es Salaam, Tanzania Aged 36yrs - William Arthur Fitzpatrick 1882 - 1918, he left 4 sons and a Daughter, (he never saw his Twins My Dad and His Sister). My Mum's Father survived WW1 and became a Liverpool Bobby, Emigrated to Australia and Died here After my Grandmother did. I have all Medals from all three Men. My oldest Grandson wore them in the Anzac day Parade in the Next of kin section; I followed and Videoed it all, afterwards we sat with the old Military personal and had a cup of Tea. A very proud day, he had asked me could he do it, he is now a Father in his own right and produced a Daughter that became a fifth living generation in June. Ron Fitzpatrick. E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (6.0.0.386) Database version: 5.11080 http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor-antivirus/

Hi Ron >My oldest Grandson .....is now a Father in his own right and produced a >Daughter that became a fifth living generation in June. I vaguely recollect you mentioning on the list about this time last year that you were expecting to become a great-grandad in mid-2008. Didn't notice any announcement, but then I have had a lot of problems with my mails this year and didn't like to ask in case something had gone wrong. Belated congratulations! Gordon From: "Ron Fitzpatrick" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2008 11:10 PM Subject: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] Memorial Day and Medals >Both my Grandfathers served in WW1 and My Father and Mother in WW2. >Dad in the Army Mum an Air-raid nurse. >My Dad's Father Died 13 Days after WW1 ended in a Military Hospital in Dar >es >Salaam, Tanzania Aged 36yrs - William Arthur Fitzpatrick 1882 - 1918, >he left 4 sons >and a Daughter, (he never saw his Twins My Dad and His >Sister). >My Mum's Father survived WW1 and became a Liverpool Bobby, Emigrated to > >Australia and Died here After my Grandmother did. >I have all Medals from all three Men. My oldest Grandson wore them in the >Anzac day >Parade in the Next of kin section; >I followed and Videoed it all, afterwards we sat with the old Military >personal and had a >cup of Tea. >A very proud day, he had asked me could he do it, he is now a Father in his >own right >and produced a Daughter that became a fifth living generation in >June. >Ron Fitzpatrick.

Thank you Gordon  Cheers George ----- Original Message ---- From: Gordon Evans <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, 9 November, 2008 8:43:19 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] Still testing Hi George To add to what Marged has said, a good way of checking whether your mail has got through to the list or not is to look in the list archives at :- http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ENG-MERSEYSIDE/ Note that your post at 08:14pm today is already there! Regards Gordon From: "GEORGE HIGHTON" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2008 8:14 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] Still testing >Hi Gordon >Can I butt in here and ask how do you know if your mail doesn,t come is it >when you do not get a copy e-mail or when you do not get any replies to >your queery ? >I,ve sent several and just had no replies !!! >Cheers George ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi George To add to what Marged has said, a good way of checking whether your mail has got through to the list or not is to look in the list archives at :- http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ENG-MERSEYSIDE/ Note that your post at 08:14pm today is already there! Regards Gordon From: "GEORGE HIGHTON" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2008 8:14 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] Still testing >Hi Gordon >Can I butt in here and ask how do you know if your mail doesn,t come is it >when you do not get a copy e-mail or when you do not get any replies to >your queery ? >I,ve sent several and just had no replies !!! >Cheers George

Thank Marged  Cheers George ----- Original Message ---- From: Marged <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, 9 November, 2008 8:28:41 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] Still testing If you see your mail arrive in your own mail box, George, then you can be sure it has arrived in all the other mail boxes. If you don't get any response, it's probably because no one can help with your query. I have to try to resist the urge to respond to every query, whether I know the answer or not - I feel it is impolite not to respond, but I know some find it irritating. Marged Hi Gordon Can I butt in here and ask how do you know if your mail doesn,t come is it when you do not get a copy e-mail or when you do not get any replies to your queery ? I,ve sent several and just had no replies !!! Cheers George ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

If you see your mail arrive in your own mail box, George, then you can be sure it has arrived in all the other mail boxes. If you don't get any response, it's probably because no one can help with your query. I have to try to resist the urge to respond to every query, whether I know the answer or not - I feel it is impolite not to respond, but I know some find it irritating. Marged Hi Gordon Can I butt in here and ask how do you know if your mail doesn,t come is it when you do not get a copy e-mail or when you do not get any replies to your queery ? I,ve sent several and just had no replies !!! Cheers George

Hi Gordon Can I butt in here and ask how do you know if your mail doesn,t come  is it when you do not get a copy e-mail or when you do not get any replies to your queery ? I,ve sent  several and just had no replies !!!  Cheers George ----- Original Message ---- From: Gordon Evans <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, 9 November, 2008 7:36:07 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] Still testing Hi Walter Good to hear from you again - trust you're keeping well? Sorry about all those "tests", but it was such a relief being able to post to a Rootsweb list again after a month in virtual solitary confinement. :-) I wasn't the only "old timer" with the problem, apparently, since the admin of another list posted this on 11 October - the same day my own difficulties began :- http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com:80/th/read/LANCSGEN/2008-10/1223757224 and someone else on the Listowners's list on 5 November :- http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/Listowners/2008-11/1225916460 It was suggested to me several times that the problem was being caused by my outward e-mail scanning program, but interestingly the situation appears to have returned  to normal without me having to change anything at my  end. Best regards Gordon From: "Walter Jones" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2008 4:29 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] Still testing >Hello everyone, >Just opened up after a couple of days and found 3 tests from dear old >Gordon, plus 2 from Dorothy, and a few Mails from Ron, Marged, and 1 from >Manaia, hopefully mine will get through? >Walter. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Walter Good to hear from you again - trust you're keeping well? Sorry about all those "tests", but it was such a relief being able to post to a Rootsweb list again after a month in virtual solitary confinement. :-) I wasn't the only "old timer" with the problem, apparently, since the admin of another list posted this on 11 October - the same day my own difficulties began :- http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com:80/th/read/LANCSGEN/2008-10/1223757224 and someone else on the Listowners's list on 5 November :- http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/Listowners/2008-11/1225916460 It was suggested to me several times that the problem was being caused by my outward e-mail scanning program, but interestingly the situation appears to have returned to normal without me having to change anything at my end. Best regards Gordon From: "Walter Jones" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2008 4:29 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] Still testing >Hello everyone, >Just opened up after a couple of days and found 3 tests from dear old >Gordon, plus 2 from Dorothy, and a few Mails from Ron, Marged, and 1 from >Manaia, hopefully mine will get through? >Walter.

Sure did Walter - but we're not just messing about with these tests, we have had a genuine problem! Marged Hello everyone, Just opened up after a couple of days and found 3 tests from dear old Gordon, plus 2 from Dorothy, and a few Mails from Ron, Marged, and 1 from Manaia, hopefully mine will get through? Walter.

Hello everyone, Just opened up after a couple of days and found 3 tests from dear old Gordon, plus 2 from Dorothy, and a few Mails from Ron, Marged, and 1 from Manaia, hopefully mine will get through? Walter. --- On Sat, 8/11/08, Gordon Evans <[email protected]> wrote: > From: Gordon Evans <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] Still testing > To: "Ron Fitzpatrick" <[email protected]>, [email protected] > Date: Saturday, 8 November, 2008, 2:48 PM > Thanks Ron > > Only three from me on this list - the fourth + the one from > Ann being on the > Cheshire? > Just be grateful you're not subscribed to all twelve of > the mailing lists to > which I've sent test messages! :-) > > Regards > Gordon > > From: "Ron Fitzpatrick" > <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Cc: "Gordon.W.Evans" > <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2008 11:27 AM > Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] Still testing > > >Gordon, > >I got 4 from you and one from Ann. > >Ron. > > > From: "Gordon Evans" > <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2008 9:35 PM > > Subject: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] Still testing > > > >Apologies for the tests. > >Would be interested to know whether any other > subscribers are able to > >receive posts but not send them, as has been my > predicament for the last > >> month or so? > >> > >> Gordon > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

My Gr Grandfather didn't die in the war but fought through WW1 and WW2 WILLIAM THOMAS GILLEY b 20th March 1867 in Ermington Devon d 1949 82 IOW Joined The Duke of Cornwall's Light Infantry 1&2 jan 1888 aged 21 promoted to Corporal December 1891 became Sergeant in April 1893. C.S.M.July 1897 Discharged in April 1909 he re-enlisted in 1915 and served until 1921 his total service for the wars 27 years this was recognised by receiving the M.S.M was added to The Indian Medal 1895, with clasps for Punjab frontier 1897-8 and tirah 1897-8 also the Long service and Good Conduct Medals His Service in India was 1888-1900. In Ceylon 1900-1901. WT Gilley worked well through retirement at the Duke of Cornwall's Light Infantry Bodmin IOW (which is now a museum) http://www.lightinfantry.org.uk/regiments/dcli/duke_boerwar.htm His wife ELLEN GILLEY died 1901 in child birth buried Colombo cemetery /Ceylon,. Ellen also lost other babies so I Ellen lived in India due to her husband WILLIAM THOMAS GILLEY being in the army.

On the day when we are celebrating the Armistice and remembering our war dead - and as we approach the REAL day of 11th November, I would like to remember both my grandfathers who died as young men with families in WW1. Able Seaman William Hughes, lost at Gallipoli age 35, leaving a widow and three children - the youngest was my mother, only four weeks old. He never saw her. It seems when his ship, the "Cornwallis", arrived at Gallipoli, after picking up ANZAC troops in Australia, he volunteered to row troops ashore, and was shot down by the Turks, who were waiting for them in the hills (my grandmother's words) Able Seaman Robert Edward Mackay Campbell Ingham, aged 35, who died off the coast of Northern Ireland when his ship the "Laurentic", was torpedoed by the Germans. He left two children, a daughter and a son - the son was my father, who was five years old at the time. By a strange coincidence these two seamen's names face each other in the basement of Liverpool Town Hall on the War Memorial Plaques. While I am alive, they will never be forgotten, even though I never knew them and I doubt there is anyone left alive now who did know them. Perhaps others on this list have names they would like to put forward, so that we can all think of them in our own way at this time. Marged

Gordon, I got 4 from you and one from Ann. Ron. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gordon Evans" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2008 9:35 PM Subject: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] Still testing > Apologies for the tests. > > Would be interested to know whether any other subscribers are able to > receive posts but not send them, as has been my predicament for the last > month or so? > > Gordon > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (6.0.0.386) > Database version: 5.11080 > http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor-antivirus/ E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (6.0.0.386) Database version: 5.11080 http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor-antivirus/

Made for Remembrance day feel free to pass it on. link........ Remembrance Day <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtdBgpLXUz8> we Bless the memory of those who sacrificed their health, their strength, even their lives, that we might live in a free ... Lesley

Thanks Ron Only three from me on this list - the fourth + the one from Ann being on the Cheshire? Just be grateful you're not subscribed to all twelve of the mailing lists to which I've sent test messages! :-) Regards Gordon From: "Ron Fitzpatrick" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Cc: "Gordon.W.Evans" <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2008 11:27 AM Subject: Re: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] Still testing >Gordon, >I got 4 from you and one from Ann. >Ron. > From: "Gordon Evans" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2008 9:35 PM > Subject: [ENG-MERSEYSIDE] Still testing > >Apologies for the tests. >Would be interested to know whether any other subscribers are able to >receive posts but not send them, as has been my predicament for the last >> month or so? >> >> Gordon

Well, it's all coming through quickly now. I wonder if there is anyone else whose mail hasn't come through, who would like to send a test while we're doing it all Marged Yet another test I'm afraid :-) Dorothy

Yet another test I'm afraid :-) Dorothy