Dear List My thanks to Mike Morris and others who have replied to my initial post of approximately 3 weeks ago. I obtained the birth certificate from Blackley and unfortunately it was not the right one. I contacted Manchester City Library as I intended trying to visit when I am over in England in the Autumn, but unfortunately they closed in the middle of September until the Spring in order for the transfer back to Manchester Central Library. They did however, offer to undertake some research for me, for which I paid and they provided me with a lot information on the family, but still no baptism for George. They are now closed and not undertaking any research until the Spring 2014, so it looks as though George will have to wait a while longer until I can get over there. Kathleen Wilson Isle of Man