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    1. [ENG-MAN] MATILDA HENRY
    2. VITO SIMONESCHI
    3. Matilda Henry was my great grandmother. She was born in England about 1855 and died in Brooklyn,NY in 1916. The only thing I know about her past is that her father's name was William Henry (or Henrys). She married Edward Owen in 1875 in Manchester. Does anyone know more about Matilda and her background? I would appreciate finding out more about her. I thank you in advance for your time and help. Sincerely, Ghyll Simoneschi

    05/17/2013 03:07:29
    1. Re: [ENG-MAN] MATILDA HENRY
    2. sally roberts
    3. Hi Ghyll, This looks to be Matilda's birth reference: Name: Matilda Henry Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1856 Registration District: Manchester Inferred County: Lancashire Volume: 8d Page: 116 And this might be the family in the 1861 census: Name: Matilda Henry Age: 4 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: William Henry Mother's Name: Cathern Henry Gender: Female Where born: Manchester, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Manchester Ecclesiastical parish: All Souls County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street Address: 12 Boond Street, Manchester William Henry 32 "Broaker" born Dublin Cathern Henry 35 born Dublin Elizabth Henry 6 born Manchester Matilda Henry 4 born Manchester William Henry 1 born Manchester Regards, Sally ---------------------------------------- > Date: Fri, 17 May 2013 21:07:29 -0400 > From: vsgs@optonline.net > To: Eng-manchester@rootsweb.com > Subject: [ENG-MAN] MATILDA HENRY > > Matilda Henry was my great grandmother. She was born in England about > 1855 and died in Brooklyn,NY in 1916. The only thing I know about her > past is that her father's name was William Henry (or Henrys). She > married Edward Owen in 1875 in Manchester. Does anyone know more about > Matilda and her background? I would appreciate finding out more about > her. > I thank you in advance for your time and help. > Sincerely, > Ghyll Simoneschi

    05/18/2013 03:21:47
    1. Re: [ENG-MAN] MATILDA HENRY
    2. From: sally roberts <sallyroberts55@hotmail.com> > And this might be the family in the 1861 census: > > > Name: Matilda Henry > Age: 4 > Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857 > Relation: Daughter > Father's Name: William Henry > Mother's Name: Cathern Henry > Gender: Female > Where born: Manchester, Lancashire, England > Civil Parish: Manchester > Ecclesiastical parish: All Souls > County/Island: Lancashire > Country: England > > Street Address: 12 Boond Street, Manchester > > William Henry 32 "Broaker" born Dublin > Cathern Henry 35 born Dublin > Elizabth Henry 6 born Manchester > Matilda Henry 4 born Manchester > William Henry 1 born Manchester > > > Regards, > Sally> As a matter of interest, could you give me the precise reference in 1861, assuming you found them at Ancestry, since they seem to be missing from Findmypast? In 1871 Catherine's place of birth was definitely given as Manchester. -- Roy Stockdill Genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Famous family trees blog: http://blog.findmypast.co.uk/tag/roy-stockdill/ "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE

    05/18/2013 04:51:39
    1. Re: [ENG-MAN] MATILDA HENRY
    2. From: VITO SIMONESCHI <vsgs@optonline.net> > Matilda Henry was my great grandmother. She was born in England about > 1855 and died in Brooklyn,NY in 1916. The only thing I know about her > past is that her father's name was William Henry (or Henrys). She > married Edward Owen in 1875 in Manchester. Does anyone know more about > Matilda and her background? I would appreciate finding out more about > her. > I thank you in advance for your time and help. > Sincerely, > Ghyll Simoneschi> The first thing I would suggest is to get the marriage certificate if you haven't already done so. This will confirm that her father's name was William. You can find the marriage at two places online, viz..... http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/marriages.php This reveals that the marriage was at St Philip's, Manchester, and she is named in the indexes as Matilda HENRYS. The Lancashire BMD website contains entries from the local registrar's offices and you can download a form to apply for the certificate online. The other site from which you can order a copy is the vast FreeBMD website which contains many millions of entries from the indexes of the General Register Office for England & Wales at: http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl This has the marriage at Manchester in the Dec quarter of 1875 (vol 8d page 546). You can then order a copy online to be sent to you by going to the GRO website at: http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/#0 and registering, then entering the details you found at FreeBMD. NOTE: Order from one or the other but do not confused the reference details, since the GRO use a different system from the local registrars. The certificate will cost you £9.25 GB sterling from the GRO, probably similar from the local register office but I haven't checked lately. The only likely candidate for a birth in Manchester at the right time that I can see is a MATILDA HENRY registered in the Sept quarter of 1856 (FreeBMD, vol 8d page 116), though there were three other females of the same name born elsewhere in England. I couldn't find the family in the 1861 census but the 1871 census has a Matilda Henry born Manchester 1858 (ages are very often slightly out in the censuses) living at Mary Street, Newton, Lancashire, with her widowed mother, Catherine, 39, and two sisters, Elizabeth, 17, and Harriet Ann, 4, also a brother William H, aged 11. The Lancashire BMD website I gave you above has a marriage in 1849 at Manchester Cathedral of WILLIAM HENRY and CATHERINE KEARNEY and this is also found with FreeBMD. The 1851 census has William and Catherine Henry at 108 Pollard Street, Manchester, he was 21 and a blacksmith's striker, born Ireland, she was 20 and a cotton mule piecer, born Manchester, and they had a 2-months-old daughter called Mary Ann, born Manchester. With them was William's 28-yr-old married sister-in-law Elizabeth Carney. I reckon the likelihood is that William and Catherine were Matilda's parents. Bearing in mind that Catherine was a widow in 1872, both FreeBMD and Lancashire BMD have a death record for William Henry, aged 36, in 1866. It would seem that the youngest child Harriet Ann, who was 4 in 1871, was born either posthumously or around the time William died. I couldn't find Edward and Matilda Owen in the 1881 or 1891 censuses but perhaps they had left for America by then. I trust this little lesson in how to research in UK records online has been of use to you. -- Roy Stockdill Genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Famous family trees blog: http://blog.findmypast.co.uk/tag/roy-stockdill/ "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE

    05/18/2013 04:36:05