From: BwUK <martin@biblewitness.org.uk> > Ghyll, There's no need to order the marriage certificate - the original > image for Manchester St Philip's is freely available on line: - > > https://familysearch.org/search/image/index#uri=https%3A//api.familysearch.org > /records/collection/1788853/waypoints > > Cut and paste the whole address into your browser, choose Lancashire, > Manchester St Philips. Its in the 1875 to 1881 section; image no. 11 > > Cheers, > Martin> That image illustrates an interesting point that I often stress to beginners. It gives Matilda's father as William Henry, iron dealer - in 1851 he is shown as a blacksmith's striker and in 1861 as a breaker, so that fits - but in fact he was deceased well before the marriage. The 1871 census shows his wife Catherine as a widow and it would seem from FreeBMD and Lancashire BMD that he died in 1866, around the same time as his last child was born. However, the marriage certificate does NOT show that he was deceased - something to be wary about! Sometimes a father is shown as deceased and sometimes not when, in fact, he was, as in this case. -- Roy Stockdill Genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Famous family trees blog: http://blog.findmypast.co.uk/tag/roy-stockdill/ "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE