Hello Louise, I would call that a pretty big look. Many thanks for your help. My great, great grandfather Thomas Wilson, married into the Rhodes family twice firstly to a daughter of William and Nancy and when she died to a daughter of William's brother, James and Wermyss. The first was Mary and the second was Barbara. Between them they gave him five sons and a daughter who was born just days before he died (in India). My information on the Bartons has always been very skimpy and came from a distant Canadian Rhodes cousin. He gave me a brief handwritten tree scribbled on the back of a piece of company letterhead and NOW on re-reading it more closely it seems that Nancy was probably the daughter of a brother of Samuel's, name unknown, OR even a child of Samuel Barton and Ann Wrigley, maybe the last of the litter, and so an aunt of Lucy's. Is there any way you can check this for me through the cathedral records? I would be most grateful if you could. Nancy married William under licence in 1804 which probably meant she was under the age of consent, which is why I gave her a birthdate of 1785, i.e aged 19, but she could have been younger. Again thanks for your help Nick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Louise Wortley" <wortleylouise@gmail.com> To: <eng-manchester@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 4:07 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-MAN] NANCY RHODES nee BARTON, born in Manchester, c.1785 > Evening Nick, > > I have had a little look for you, > > I traced Lucy Barton she was christened Manchester Cathedral to a Samuel > and Ann, so it does look like Nancy and Lucy could be sisters from the > info you gave on Nancy's parents, although i cannot find a christening for > Nancy, nor a marriage??? Nancy Barton is the one you stated married > William, your 3x great grandparents? i'm just checking i have it right. > > There were a few siblings for Lucy > > George 1796 > Alice 1798 > Esther 1800 > James 1804 > Thomas 1806 > > All above apart from Lucy the abode states Prescot, and father Samuel was > a Joiner. > > I found Thomas and Lucy Rhodes living in the Channel Islands in the 1851 > and 1861, and Thomas is an Engineer. Their marriage is 19 Feb 1815, Saint > Nicholas, Liverpool. > > I found the marriage of the grandparents Samuel and Mary Guest, it was > Manchester Cathedral 21st December 1763. > > All the best, > > Louise Wortley > >

Hello, Well i had a look, it would be something that would take a bit of work to figure out how Nancy is connected to Lucy, but it can be done and looks likely I found out that the original Samuel Barton married Mary Guest at St Nicholas Liverpool 1763. This is the only marriage coming up. Samuel and Mary's children were Mary C: 25 Dec 1765 Sarah C: 21 Jun 1767 Samuel C: 26 Dec 1768 Nathaniel C: 26 Dec 1770 All were Christened at Manchester Cathedral. Samuel married Ann Wrigley at Manchester Cathedral 13 July 1789 A Nancy seems to have been christened to John Barton and Martha Wilkinson 22 May 1786 at St Nicholas, Liverpool. It could be your Nancy. It is likely they are related but as i say would take work to figure out how. Regards Louise Wortley On 15 Jan 2013, at 04:32, Nick Wilson wrote: > Hello Louise, > > I would call that a pretty big look. Many thanks for your help. My great, > great grandfather Thomas Wilson, married into the Rhodes family twice > firstly to a daughter of William and Nancy and when she died to a daughter > of William's brother, James and Wermyss. The first was Mary and the second > was Barbara. Between them they gave him five sons and a daughter who was > born just days before he died (in India). > > My information on the Bartons has always been very skimpy and came from a > distant Canadian Rhodes cousin. He gave me a brief handwritten tree > scribbled on the back of a piece of company letterhead and NOW on re-reading > it more closely it seems that Nancy was probably the daughter of a brother > of Samuel's, name unknown, OR even a child of Samuel Barton and Ann Wrigley, > maybe the last of the litter, and so an aunt of Lucy's. Is there any way you > can check this for me through the cathedral records? I would be most > grateful if you could. Nancy married William under licence in 1804 which > probably meant she was under the age of consent, which is why I gave her a > birthdate of 1785, i.e aged 19, but she could have been younger. > > Again thanks for your help > > Nick > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Louise Wortley" <wortleylouise@gmail.com> > To: <eng-manchester@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 4:07 PM > Subject: Re: [ENG-MAN] NANCY RHODES nee BARTON, born in Manchester, c.1785 > > >> Evening Nick, >> >> I have had a little look for you, >> >> I traced Lucy Barton she was christened Manchester Cathedral to a Samuel >> and Ann, so it does look like Nancy and Lucy could be sisters from the >> info you gave on Nancy's parents, although i cannot find a christening for >> Nancy, nor a marriage??? Nancy Barton is the one you stated married >> William, your 3x great grandparents? i'm just checking i have it right. >> >> There were a few siblings for Lucy >> >> George 1796 >> Alice 1798 >> Esther 1800 >> James 1804 >> Thomas 1806 >> >> All above apart from Lucy the abode states Prescot, and father Samuel was >> a Joiner. >> >> I found Thomas and Lucy Rhodes living in the Channel Islands in the 1851 >> and 1861, and Thomas is an Engineer. Their marriage is 19 Feb 1815, Saint >> Nicholas, Liverpool. >> >> I found the marriage of the grandparents Samuel and Mary Guest, it was >> Manchester Cathedral 21st December 1763. >> >> All the best, >> >> Louise Wortley >> >> > > > > > :-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~: > > Except for personal messages, please post replies to the list. > Other people can learn from them! > > Be sure list mail is in PLAIN TEXT. > > Please SNIP when replying. > > Buy or sell family research items on the GEN-MAT-UKI mailing list. No fees! > > :-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~: > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-MANCHESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message