Hi Graham I notice you mention the name Croasdale. My husband's gt gt grandmother was Mary CROASDALE born in Manchester 1858c. She married James GALLAGER in 1881 and her father was Stephen CROASDALE. I have been unable to discover anything further about the Croasdale family. Are any of these people listed on your tree? Regards Paula North Wales Original message - "I descend from their daughter Eleanor WINN who was baptised in Manchester Cathedral on the 6th February 1803. Eleanor went on to marry Samuel CROASDALE from Chorley in Liverpool in 1827."