I am hoping to get to Central Library soon - but don't know when. I'll keep your request, but let me know if you get the information beforehand. Pat ----- Original Message ----- From: arcmikmum@talktalk.net <snip> I will get the certificate but it won't be for another month, and I'm so impatient :o)) It's taken me so long to get my John Johnson right! (In 1871 I have about 50 to choose from, and they're just the one's spelt correctly!) I'm desperate to know who his father is so I can move further back with this family. Jane :o)