There were lots of large homes on the west side of Alexander road. It was a posh area :)) None with that name. But most homes did not show a name in 1894. I dont have a map of Moss Side in 1844 (Hint Hint) grin............ Anyone got one to spare, so I can help out the list? There was a street car/tram depot in the Whalley Range area, close to Chorlton road. He could have hopped on one of them, or perhaps had a horse and carriage. If I could walk to work from Moss Side through to Chester road, I am sure he would have managed. The street car or what ever would have travelled up Chorlton road over Stretford road and met Chester road. Close to the glass factory. Probably about 20 minutes or less in a carriage. Cheers Mike Morris Toronto Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sally Haden" <haden.sally@googlemail.com> To: <ENG-MANCHESTER@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 3:09 PM> > In my continuing pursuit of Manchester's Victorian glass makers and > glass manufacturers, I have found that John DERBYSHIRE, one owner of > the company which made the now-collectable Derbyshire pressed glass, > was living in Moss Side from about 1873 to about 1878. It was an > interesting address: "Ebenezer House, Alexandra Road, Moss Side" > > My question is, was Moss Side a 'posh' area at that time, or perhaps > it had a few large old merchants' houses? > > John, as a glass manufacturer who was doing well, might be expected > to live in quite a good house, but the puzzle is the area. It is in > the opposite direction I would expect him to go. He grew up in Hulme > and had recently opened a new glassworks in Salford on Regent Road, > and his relatives were concentrated in Hulme, Stretford and Salford. > It would be quite a distance for him to travel across the town to get > to the Salford works, wouldn't it? > > There must have been a good reason for him to choose Moss Side. Can > anyone tell me more, or even locate the address (Mike?!?). Does the > house appear on the 1849 OS maps Mike? > > Perhaps the house (with that interesting name) was owned by a > religious denomination and as a lay preacher he was renting it, or > maybe he was there for the sake of his children's schooling.... <snip>

Thank you Mike, and Vivien for clearing this up for me about Alexandra Road. I had got it into my head that "Moss Side" was adjoining Oxford Road, so I was too far east. (I have only a visitor's acquaintance with the city.) It makes sense now. Especially as the DERBYSHIRE glassmaking family had by the late 1870s generally gravitated south from their City Road, Hulme origins as they had prospered, into Stretford Road/ Old Trafford area. I suppose being a manufacturer who was doing well, the DERBYSHIRE who lived at Ebenezer House, Alexandra Road, Moss Side would have gone by horse and carriage to his works in Regent Road, and in any case he would have had a manager so didn't need to be there at odd hours. I don't know the number of Ebenezer House but will look into it. Kath on this list has sent me a great picture (from the M/c library's Local Image Collection) of where one of the DERBYSHIREs lived in the early 1870s - Melrose Lawn, 6 Alexandra Road South. Well actually the picture is of number 8 but it is clear that these were substantial properties. And not the Georgian merchant houses I was expecting. These are mid-Victorian detached. They must have been wonderful places to live in at the time - new, well-plumbed and well- ventilated. Several of them must have had a great view onto Alexandra Park. Sally in Yorkshire On 7 Aug 2008, at 21:14, Mike Morris wrote: > There were lots of large homes on the west side of Alexander road. > It was a > posh area :)) > > None with that name. But most homes did not show a name in 1894. I > dont have > a map of Moss Side in 1844 (Hint Hint) grin............ Anyone got > one to > spare, so I can help out the list? > > There was a street car/tram depot in the Whalley Range area, close to > Chorlton road. He could have hopped on one of them, or perhaps had > a horse > and carriage. If I could walk to work from Moss Side through to > Chester > road, I am sure he would have managed. The street car or what ever > would > have travelled up Chorlton road over Stretford road and met Chester > road. > Close to the glass factory. Probably about 20 minutes or less in a > carriage. > > Cheers > Mike Morris > Toronto Canada > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sally Haden" <haden.sally@googlemail.com> > To: <ENG-MANCHESTER@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 3:09 PM> >> In my continuing pursuit of Manchester's Victorian glass makers and >> glass manufacturers, I have found that John DERBYSHIRE, one owner of >> the company which made the now-collectable Derbyshire pressed glass, >> was living in Moss Side from about 1873 to about 1878. It was an >> interesting address: "Ebenezer House, Alexandra Road, Moss Side" >> >> My question is, was Moss Side a 'posh' area at that time, or perhaps >> it had a few large old merchants' houses? >> >> John, as a glass manufacturer who was doing well, might be expected >> to live in quite a good house, but the puzzle is the area. It is in >> the opposite direction I would expect him to go. He grew up in Hulme >> and had recently opened a new glassworks in Salford on Regent Road, >> and his relatives were concentrated in Hulme, Stretford and Salford. >> It would be quite a distance for him to travel across the town to get >> to the Salford works, wouldn't it? >> >> There must have been a good reason for him to choose Moss Side. Can >> anyone tell me more, or even locate the address (Mike?!?). Does the >> house appear on the 1849 OS maps Mike? >> >> Perhaps the house (with that interesting name) was owned by a >> religious denomination and as a lay preacher he was renting it, or >> maybe he was there for the sake of his children's schooling.... >> <snip> > > > > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > Except for personal messages, please post replies to the list. > Other people can learn from them! > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG- > MANCHESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message